How can the Ajax be so shit when the vehicle it's based on, the ASCOD, works just fine?
How can the Ajax be so shit when the vehicle it's based on, the ASCOD, works just fine?
How can the Ajax be so shit when the vehicle it's based on, the ASCOD, works just fine?
If you're a bong with engineering talent, its all too easy to jump ship to the US and make big money with a defense contractor offering compensation that just doesn't exist in the UK. If you're an Austrian or Spaniard, there's a language barrier so they're able to retain talent that the bongs cannot.
Because General Dynamics is a shit company who did as little as possible.
Scout SV should just be given to BAE and the CV90 with a 50mm autocannon and GD should be fined/sued for the entire program cost, the cost of the disabilities caused from the suspension and then extra just for not delivering what they promised.
BAE can be buttholes but clearly other companies want to compete for that title.
I dont know but whenever theres an IFV thread there is intense autism in the replies. Not sure why but its funny to me as a tourist. Interesting board culture. That and the whole frick ya mudda thing.
Lots of people don't understand the role of IFVs so make moronic arguments for and against specific vehicles.
It's like "tanks are obsolete" threads but with even less understanding of their role.
Yeah. I saw a guy on here saying that OFVs don’t need to be able to fire on the move. I knew he was fundamentally wrong but he was so adamant. What causes shit like this
I think a lot of it is nationalist pride turned cope.
>this is my countries X so it's the greatest X in the world
What's even more stupid about that is the best IFV for Saudi Arabia isn't going to have much in common with the best IFV for Cambodia.
>you must not discuss this topic
What did I miss
You know why. They want to add all kinds of bells and whistles without doing the math
the design requirements come from the minds behind the worst IFV of the Cold War era. Why wouldn’t they have trouble the second time around
The American OMFV program will undoubtedly yield a better IFV
GD unfortunately scheduled the wielding quality inspections for Siesta time.
British intellectual input
It's not shit, they fixed all the issues in trails as was intended.
Proof
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All the issues people have been talking about are related to revision 1, they are now on revision 7 or something and the vehicle trials are proceeding well ahead of formal acceptance.
Meanwhile you've got trash like puma that gets accepted into service without proper trials only for it to fail when it's time to deploy.
Puma seems like a much better vehicle though
Puma was pulled from NATO duties because it doesn't work. Had to be replaced by marder - this is after the German army accepted it into service. The flaws with puma would have been caught if the Germans did even a third of what the UK does for pre acceptance trails.
Just because something is pulled and replaced once for one training element doesn’t make that thing bad. What kind of reasoning is this
This happened to englands carrier. It was meant to deploy for training but suffered mechanical failure
Puma is the worst single development program I (probably) history. It's about a decade late and if completed on it's new schedule will be 20 years late.
Americans dont talk like this. Post guns.
Now you post guns
Timestamp please.
The word image is the timestamp but since you are new I’ll oblige. Now let’s see some gunownership out of you pal
>The word image is the timestamp
It's not.
Based American gun owners
>feminine hands
These are the twinks asking you to post guns.
Cope however you must.
>stop noticing things
Yeah, you're grasping around for anything to talk shit about.
>You do not have the hands of a Mexican day labourer
>Gotcha!
Kek I finally understand why people say “post hands”
Post them.
>Those hands
You have to 18 to post on this site.
>Warriortard still malding
Warriortard is always malding.
One day, perhaps by his own hand, he will pass.
And even here on the site he's done his upmost to be noticed, no one will care.
Actually, that's not true, the poor fricker who has to clear up his room probably will.
I bet his mattress looks like someone's been stamping on eclairs.
What a strange way to cope.
>for one training element
NATO's very high readiness force isn't a training mission.
>Just because something is pulled and replaced once for one training element doesn’t make that thing bad
That's not the point. The point is that the issues with it should have been caught if proper testing had been done. The whole Puma program is a clusterfrick.
You could say the exact same thing about the queen Elizabeth’s carriers issues. Of course it’s nonsense and your just trying to hate on germanys successful IFV
>could say the exact same thing
You can't.
>your just trying to hate on germanys successful IFV
A decade behind schedule, won't be ready until the end of this decade.
You could. They should have tested their carriers before accepting them into service where they each break down frequently
>Y.. you could!
You can't because a single point if failure is not the same as systemic decades long failure. The comparison would only work if the QE's were so unreliable the British were forced to keep their old carriers in service indefinitely.
A carrier is an infinitely more complex piece of equipment than an IFV. And yet despite that the issue was fixed in a month and the ship is back in service. The pannenpanzer still has problems. You chose a very bad comparison.
Puma isn't equipped for ISTAR / networked long range fires or battlefield engineering and Ajax isn't an IFV so how did you arrive at that opinion?
Spamming reports using VPNs against your detractors won't stop you being a spamming little c**t that people recognise. Especially when you're spamming in your Korean thread too.
have a nice day already, with anything besides a gun preferably.
Some guy calling OP warrirotard/fart sniffer. Not me for once kek.
The prototypes were made by GD's Spanish contractor, Santa Barbara Sistemas, rather than the bongs. The contractor's quality control was noted to be absolute shit. Yet somehow I suspect this isn't a sincere thread.
>inb4 a flood of extremely organic posts and goalpost moving by our bongbroken friend
It's a shame. He has virtually singlehandedly ruined any discussion related to IFVs and IFV development, as well as his other obsessions.
fish and chips, tea, fish head pie hogs all the power
>I don’t like what your saying please post guns
>guns immediately posted
are you okay? What were you attempting?
To link guns to armatard for future identification.
Armatard? Are you having a stroke?
You see this is always the funny thing.
Lets say you agree with Warriortard and British engineering is terrible. And their weapons are shit.
Does this mean they conquered all these nations because of their raw, muscular, Anglo strength?
Or lets me guess, all those countries were beaten by physically weak men, with shit weapons?
How is that any better?!?
That's like your girlfriend running off with a British man, and then spending all your time saying what a terrible person he is.
What would that make you?
tl;dr I think she was right to leave you.
LMAO
>And their weapons are shit.
Britain didn't conquer the world with any of the weapons that any sane person admits are shit. Britain lost the world in that period anon. Britain's engineering and weapons, up to WWI, were the best in the world. After that the quality of their engineering and weapons, and their imperial holdings, fell apart pretty quickly.
Decolonisation was as a result of the US for the most part and because it wasn't profitable anymore in a free market world.
Another angle because it's Sunday and I'm not getting out of bed.
Independence is the parting gift of the British Empire. It was always intended as a somewhat racist "let's bring civilisation to these people" kind of benevolence. There's a reason why the former territories of the British Empire are doing so much better than their neighbouring states who were in the French/Spanish or God forbid Belgian or Dutch empires.
>because it's Sunday and I'm not getting out of bed
This is just sad
>Resting on a Sunday
>As God commanded
>Sad
Desperately grasping for anything, anything at all....
Yes god wants you to stay in bed and lash out at germanys IFV. How about a wife and kids instead
>bout a wife
Making me breakfast
>kids
We'll start trying once I pass the bar.
Next cope?
>wife with no kids
Holy shit look at this fur baby loser
>24 y/o law grad has not had children yet
The horror.
Routines are important.
>explaining this hard on 4chins
Bruh
>Explaining
Nah, enjoying the seethe.
>Omg he's in bed on a Sunday morning!
>Omg married!
Etc.
Bar is in July dipshit.
>Bar is in July dipshit
And this is how you spend your free time? You're never going to make it.
Were told to take rest days. It's a marathon not a sprint. But thanks for the input from the working class.
Just enjoying the impotent warriortard seethe.
>But thanks for the input from the working class.
I'm 34 and have my own financial planning firm in the UK that I took over from my father when he retired. Not that I need to work because I bought bitcoin at £200 like 11 years ago.
>Could larp as anything he wanted
>Larped as a nepo baby
I'm old money in one of the oldest money parts of the world and here you are not even qualified talking about "working class" people. When you fail to get a job because lawyers will be decimated by AI, what will we call your menial manual labour job if not working class?
>He's now larping as reactor number 4 as it was on April 26, 1986.
My dad also works at Nintendo
The fact you think that any of that is outlandish shows that you are a bottom feeder.
I just don't believe you. You have provided no proofs that you are anything besides a moronic manual labourer that can't even afford a bag or seat that isn't shitty and worn.
This moron can't even keep track of replies.
>i have a wife
>i run
>i stay in bed
>i have a job
>i enjoy explaining to strangers my life for online clout
Guy, you are a terminally online wierdo
If you describe yourself by what you graduated in rather than what you do then you've failed.
I can only imagine how out of shape he is from this statement alone and looking at his hands
I run about 21 miles a week. 5x3 miles and a 10k every Saturday.
Next cope?
I run 22 miles a week you loser
>I make about 21 threads an hour. 5x3 posts and a 10k posts Saturday.
Kinda sad guy
There are people who bait and troll for sure but there is one specific person at the core of it.
QE has a mechanical issue - replaced by another QE class on NATO commitment.
Puma has an fleet wide issue - whole fleet gets pulled from NATO duties and replaced by 50 year old marder.
Can you spot the difference?
did you ever see that episode of the Simpsons where Homer designs a car?
>UK wants a vehicle to replace their old, worn out CVRTs
>Put out specifications for a vehicle that can be configured to fill the CVRT roles
>GD gets the contract, offering bigger, badder ASCOD
>GD tries to shoehorn 10 tonnes of extra shit onto an existing platform that is rated for 26 tonnes
>whynowork.jpg
>Also find a bunch of QC issues at the plants actually welding this shit
>UK MOD has a WTF moment when they trial the testbed vics
>UK gets pissed off that GD basically lied about their ability to adapt the chassis to meet requirements and stop payments
>GD takes 5 years to unfrick their shit, payments resume
>Expected in-service date, 2028
Modern defense procurement in a nutshell.
French managed to get it right, although
>Wheeled.
Because it's just a slightly modified version of a crap spanish APC from the 1980s.
worst part sounds (pardon pun:)) the high sound level.
"hearing tests after rides".
Hello (pardon pun:)) we learned in 1st grade that hearing loss is some sort of both PROGRESSIVE and DELAYED....so you might not know you are being harmed until its too late AND harm can set in long AFTER you thought you were OK.
In other words, its basically a sure thing in a few years there will be all these Brit Vets with major hearing loss from riding around it these things in little gay peacetime drills.
And its not just like the one guy who flies the Sopwith Camel, it will be everyone who rides around in IFV (of various sub-models), in other words basically the entire fricking army. I remember hearing (pardon pun:)) that in US Army tankie crews would often be transported out to their MBTs in M113, just in training because theory was you didn't want the Meat Bags need to run the big armor being the weak link riding around in soft trucks, and you didn't want drive valuable MBT out of guarded entrenched positions everytime crew needs to get chow or change their diapers. Something about swapping out relief crews, but everyone is riding around in IFV or APCs.