How can the Ajax be so shit when the vehicle it's based on, the ASCOD, works just fine?

How can the Ajax be so shit when the vehicle it's based on, the ASCOD, works just fine?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're a bong with engineering talent, its all too easy to jump ship to the US and make big money with a defense contractor offering compensation that just doesn't exist in the UK. If you're an Austrian or Spaniard, there's a language barrier so they're able to retain talent that the bongs cannot.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because General Dynamics is a shit company who did as little as possible.
    Scout SV should just be given to BAE and the CV90 with a 50mm autocannon and GD should be fined/sued for the entire program cost, the cost of the disabilities caused from the suspension and then extra just for not delivering what they promised.
    BAE can be buttholes but clearly other companies want to compete for that title.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I dont know but whenever theres an IFV thread there is intense autism in the replies. Not sure why but its funny to me as a tourist. Interesting board culture. That and the whole frick ya mudda thing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lots of people don't understand the role of IFVs so make moronic arguments for and against specific vehicles.
      It's like "tanks are obsolete" threads but with even less understanding of their role.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. I saw a guy on here saying that OFVs don’t need to be able to fire on the move. I knew he was fundamentally wrong but he was so adamant. What causes shit like this

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think a lot of it is nationalist pride turned cope.
          >this is my countries X so it's the greatest X in the world
          What's even more stupid about that is the best IFV for Saudi Arabia isn't going to have much in common with the best IFV for Cambodia.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >you must not discuss this topic

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What did I miss

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know why. They want to add all kinds of bells and whistles without doing the math

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the design requirements come from the minds behind the worst IFV of the Cold War era. Why wouldn’t they have trouble the second time around

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The American OMFV program will undoubtedly yield a better IFV

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GD unfortunately scheduled the wielding quality inspections for Siesta time.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    British intellectual input

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not shit, they fixed all the issues in trails as was intended.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Proof

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ?si=zjqrCoiTJBKxs75I

        All the issues people have been talking about are related to revision 1, they are now on revision 7 or something and the vehicle trials are proceeding well ahead of formal acceptance.

        Meanwhile you've got trash like puma that gets accepted into service without proper trials only for it to fail when it's time to deploy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Puma seems like a much better vehicle though

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Puma was pulled from NATO duties because it doesn't work. Had to be replaced by marder - this is after the German army accepted it into service. The flaws with puma would have been caught if the Germans did even a third of what the UK does for pre acceptance trails.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Just because something is pulled and replaced once for one training element doesn’t make that thing bad. What kind of reasoning is this

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This happened to englands carrier. It was meant to deploy for training but suffered mechanical failure

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Puma is the worst single development program I (probably) history. It's about a decade late and if completed on it's new schedule will be 20 years late.

                This happened to englands carrier. It was meant to deploy for training but suffered mechanical failure

                Americans dont talk like this. Post guns.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Now you post guns

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Timestamp please.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The word image is the timestamp but since you are new I’ll oblige. Now let’s see some gunownership out of you pal

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The word image is the timestamp
                It's not.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/cRFoS4h.jpeg

                Now you post guns

                Based American gun owners

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/tbFN9KO.jpeg

                Decolonisation was as a result of the US for the most part and because it wasn't profitable anymore in a free market world.

                [...]
                Another angle because it's Sunday and I'm not getting out of bed.

                >feminine hands
                These are the twinks asking you to post guns.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cope however you must.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >stop noticing things

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, you're grasping around for anything to talk shit about.
                >You do not have the hands of a Mexican day labourer
                >Gotcha!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kek I finally understand why people say “post hands”

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Post them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Those hands
                You have to 18 to post on this site.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Warriortard still malding

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Warriortard is always malding.
                One day, perhaps by his own hand, he will pass.
                And even here on the site he's done his upmost to be noticed, no one will care.
                Actually, that's not true, the poor fricker who has to clear up his room probably will.
                I bet his mattress looks like someone's been stamping on eclairs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What a strange way to cope.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >for one training element

                NATO's very high readiness force isn't a training mission.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Just because something is pulled and replaced once for one training element doesn’t make that thing bad
                That's not the point. The point is that the issues with it should have been caught if proper testing had been done. The whole Puma program is a clusterfrick.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You could say the exact same thing about the queen Elizabeth’s carriers issues. Of course it’s nonsense and your just trying to hate on germanys successful IFV

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >could say the exact same thing
                You can't.
                >your just trying to hate on germanys successful IFV
                A decade behind schedule, won't be ready until the end of this decade.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You could. They should have tested their carriers before accepting them into service where they each break down frequently

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Y.. you could!
                You can't because a single point if failure is not the same as systemic decades long failure. The comparison would only work if the QE's were so unreliable the British were forced to keep their old carriers in service indefinitely.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A carrier is an infinitely more complex piece of equipment than an IFV. And yet despite that the issue was fixed in a month and the ship is back in service. The pannenpanzer still has problems. You chose a very bad comparison.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Puma isn't equipped for ISTAR / networked long range fires or battlefield engineering and Ajax isn't an IFV so how did you arrive at that opinion?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Spamming reports using VPNs against your detractors won't stop you being a spamming little c**t that people recognise. Especially when you're spamming in your Korean thread too.
    have a nice day already, with anything besides a gun preferably.

    What did I miss

    Some guy calling OP warrirotard/fart sniffer. Not me for once kek.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The prototypes were made by GD's Spanish contractor, Santa Barbara Sistemas, rather than the bongs. The contractor's quality control was noted to be absolute shit. Yet somehow I suspect this isn't a sincere thread.
    >inb4 a flood of extremely organic posts and goalpost moving by our bongbroken friend

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a shame. He has virtually singlehandedly ruined any discussion related to IFVs and IFV development, as well as his other obsessions.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fish and chips, tea, fish head pie hogs all the power

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I don’t like what your saying please post guns
      >guns immediately posted
      are you okay? What were you attempting?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To link guns to armatard for future identification.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Armatard? Are you having a stroke?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You see this is always the funny thing.
    Lets say you agree with Warriortard and British engineering is terrible. And their weapons are shit.
    Does this mean they conquered all these nations because of their raw, muscular, Anglo strength?
    Or lets me guess, all those countries were beaten by physically weak men, with shit weapons?
    How is that any better?!?
    That's like your girlfriend running off with a British man, and then spending all your time saying what a terrible person he is.
    What would that make you?

    tl;dr I think she was right to leave you.
    LMAO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >And their weapons are shit.
      Britain didn't conquer the world with any of the weapons that any sane person admits are shit. Britain lost the world in that period anon. Britain's engineering and weapons, up to WWI, were the best in the world. After that the quality of their engineering and weapons, and their imperial holdings, fell apart pretty quickly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Decolonisation was as a result of the US for the most part and because it wasn't profitable anymore in a free market world.

        https://i.imgur.com/da0sd9x.jpeg

        >The word image is the timestamp
        It's not.

        Another angle because it's Sunday and I'm not getting out of bed.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Independence is the parting gift of the British Empire. It was always intended as a somewhat racist "let's bring civilisation to these people" kind of benevolence. There's a reason why the former territories of the British Empire are doing so much better than their neighbouring states who were in the French/Spanish or God forbid Belgian or Dutch empires.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >because it's Sunday and I'm not getting out of bed
          This is just sad

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Resting on a Sunday
            >As God commanded
            >Sad
            Desperately grasping for anything, anything at all....

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yes god wants you to stay in bed and lash out at germanys IFV. How about a wife and kids instead

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >bout a wife
                Making me breakfast
                >kids
                We'll start trying once I pass the bar.

                Next cope?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >wife with no kids
                Holy shit look at this fur baby loser

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >24 y/o law grad has not had children yet
                The horror.

                >I make about 21 threads an hour. 5x3 posts and a 10k posts Saturday.
                Kinda sad guy

                Routines are important.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >explaining this hard on 4chins
                Bruh

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Explaining
                Nah, enjoying the seethe.
                >Omg he's in bed on a Sunday morning!
                >Omg married!
                Etc.

                If you describe yourself by what you graduated in rather than what you do then you've failed.

                Bar is in July dipshit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Bar is in July dipshit
                And this is how you spend your free time? You're never going to make it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Were told to take rest days. It's a marathon not a sprint. But thanks for the input from the working class.

                >i have a wife
                >i run
                >i stay in bed
                >i have a job
                >i enjoy explaining to strangers my life for online clout
                Guy, you are a terminally online wierdo

                Just enjoying the impotent warriortard seethe.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >But thanks for the input from the working class.

                I'm 34 and have my own financial planning firm in the UK that I took over from my father when he retired. Not that I need to work because I bought bitcoin at £200 like 11 years ago.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Could larp as anything he wanted
                >Larped as a nepo baby

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm old money in one of the oldest money parts of the world and here you are not even qualified talking about "working class" people. When you fail to get a job because lawyers will be decimated by AI, what will we call your menial manual labour job if not working class?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >He's now larping as reactor number 4 as it was on April 26, 1986.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My dad also works at Nintendo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The fact you think that any of that is outlandish shows that you are a bottom feeder.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I just don't believe you. You have provided no proofs that you are anything besides a moronic manual labourer that can't even afford a bag or seat that isn't shitty and worn.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This moron can't even keep track of replies.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >i have a wife
                >i run
                >i stay in bed
                >i have a job
                >i enjoy explaining to strangers my life for online clout
                Guy, you are a terminally online wierdo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If you describe yourself by what you graduated in rather than what you do then you've failed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I can only imagine how out of shape he is from this statement alone and looking at his hands

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I run about 21 miles a week. 5x3 miles and a 10k every Saturday.

              Next cope?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I run 22 miles a week you loser

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I make about 21 threads an hour. 5x3 posts and a 10k posts Saturday.
                Kinda sad guy

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    There are people who bait and troll for sure but there is one specific person at the core of it.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    QE has a mechanical issue - replaced by another QE class on NATO commitment.

    Puma has an fleet wide issue - whole fleet gets pulled from NATO duties and replaced by 50 year old marder.

    Can you spot the difference?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    did you ever see that episode of the Simpsons where Homer designs a car?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >UK wants a vehicle to replace their old, worn out CVRTs
    >Put out specifications for a vehicle that can be configured to fill the CVRT roles
    >GD gets the contract, offering bigger, badder ASCOD
    >GD tries to shoehorn 10 tonnes of extra shit onto an existing platform that is rated for 26 tonnes
    >whynowork.jpg
    >Also find a bunch of QC issues at the plants actually welding this shit
    >UK MOD has a WTF moment when they trial the testbed vics
    >UK gets pissed off that GD basically lied about their ability to adapt the chassis to meet requirements and stop payments
    >GD takes 5 years to unfrick their shit, payments resume
    >Expected in-service date, 2028

    Modern defense procurement in a nutshell.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      French managed to get it right, although
      >Wheeled.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's just a slightly modified version of a crap spanish APC from the 1980s.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    worst part sounds (pardon pun:)) the high sound level.

    "hearing tests after rides".

    Hello (pardon pun:)) we learned in 1st grade that hearing loss is some sort of both PROGRESSIVE and DELAYED....so you might not know you are being harmed until its too late AND harm can set in long AFTER you thought you were OK.

    In other words, its basically a sure thing in a few years there will be all these Brit Vets with major hearing loss from riding around it these things in little gay peacetime drills.

    And its not just like the one guy who flies the Sopwith Camel, it will be everyone who rides around in IFV (of various sub-models), in other words basically the entire fricking army. I remember hearing (pardon pun:)) that in US Army tankie crews would often be transported out to their MBTs in M113, just in training because theory was you didn't want the Meat Bags need to run the big armor being the weak link riding around in soft trucks, and you didn't want drive valuable MBT out of guarded entrenched positions everytime crew needs to get chow or change their diapers. Something about swapping out relief crews, but everyone is riding around in IFV or APCs.

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