How and why did the bongs start and fight the war of 1812 while they were fighting napolian in yurop
How and why did the bongs start and fight the war of 1812 while they were fighting napolian in yurop
How and why did the bongs start and fight the war of 1812 while they were fighting napolian in yurop
Britian was a hyperpower back in 1812.
Because the bongs were an island c**t that could easily avoid all large continental battles while still sending a small force to the US to fight the yanks before they could mobilize in any meaningful way
Packham was probably destined for very high command given his ties to Wellington if he was victorious at New Orleans. Too bad he got yeet by Ole Hickory with a bunch of Kentucky woodman and French swamp pirates
Pretty sure WE started the war of 1812 by trying to forcefully annex British Canada.
The Bongs weren't respecting American maritime sovereignty and were funding injuns to frick shit up in the Northwest Territories
don't trade with the enemy of the king of the world
the british started it with impressment
This thread is typical American gaslighting.
>the british started it with impressment
Wrong, you started the war by running our blockade of Napoleonic France, and financially, morally, diplomatically supporting the French dictatorship.
Britain was still the United States primary market, and you could trade with the British Empire with no problems, but you just had to be hook-nosed israelite republicans and try to stab Europe collectively in the back as you have since 1776.
Thankfully, Britain had the moral fortitude and economic means to resist you freemason bastards and win the war.
>funding injuns to frick shit up
More gaslighting. More like "honoring signed treaties and giving safe haven to refugees from your genocide."
violating treaties with injins is based, just like selling shit to napolian is based
>yes we blockaded your trading partner
>no that doesn't mean WE started it, its YOUR fault for trading with them!
typic bong bullshit
>Refuse British naval protection, claim "neutrality" while secretly making deals with the French.
>immediately side with the French and refuse to trade with Britain when you think the French will win.
>act shocked when the British start impounding your ships for funding their enemy.
The USA was as neutral as it today in Ukraine. You got what you deserved.
>shifts the goalposts because his statement was bullshit
>seethes about us supporting the french not long after bong tyranny the french helped us overthrow
typical bong bullshit
Oh yes, trade and the fate of sailors of was so crucial and such a cause for war to the point that the American delegation didn’t even bring these up in negotiations and there’s not a line about in the treaty of Ghent.
It’s almost as though the only thing that mattered to your leaders was land grabbing, and these sailors and ships were just a flimsy pretext to a long held desire to invade and annex Canada.
So tell us more about goalpost shifting and how your precious sailors weren’t predecessors to 6 Million Bombed Donestk Children in terms of casus belli.
>continues to argue different things
>outs himself as a seething vatnik again
you were funnier as a bong.
>Its da ameeeriiimutts fault!!! even doe we were the ones starting all the wars with france
>gaslighting gaslighting gaslighting
gb2r
imagine how shitty the US would be if canadians could vote
You might be more civil if you related to Canadians
frick that, I don't need leafs voting for communists and giving the chinese all the houses in the country
we don't have daily school shootings. If you look up the stats, most of that is black on black gang shit at like 3 am when no kids are there
Yes, imagine a country without daily school shootings
Those modern Canadians wouldn't have survived.
Post gun lol
the bongs started it by blockading US ships so we couldn't trade with France, funding injins and impressing American sailors
You burgers started it by trying to annex Canada and then fumbled the 2 week SMO despite having a 100 to 1 advantage in number
To be fair we had only been a country for less than 40 years and were still figuring out the whole military thing
the british didnt start the war of 1812, the US did, the british didnt do anything wrong prior to the war either, the americans wanted canada.
the 'impressment' the american used as official casus belli was A) nothing more than the recapture of deserters, requiring them to fulfil their obligations B) stopped several weeks before the declaration.
the war of 1812 was one big frickup for the US, despite a few victories at sea they overall had their merchant shipping more than decimated, lost every attempt to take canada and spent millions for no real gain, while fighting the british b team
the bongs caused it by impressing US citizens and blockading American naval trade with france
Simply deserters being taken back.
Ironic though, then you were larping as "US citizens" today you are all Italians that don't speak Italian and have never been to Italy etc.
>block trade of another country
>Kidnap sailors of another country
>Fund indians to raid another country
No cmon guys the british did nothing wrong the war was just American imperialism!
>No cmon guys the british did nothing wrong the war was just American imperialism!
Correct. The American casus belli was the equivalent of "donetsk children genocide", and we even have the private writings of that freemason Black person-lover Jefferson openly stating it was just an excuse for a land-grab.
It’s fantastic the war ended the way it did. Total humiliation, your capital torched, your shipping destroyed, your trade extinguished, and your armies humiliated, and on the defensive after 10 (Ten! lmao) special military operations.
I wish we had social media back in 1812. We could have had the equivalent of Russian mobiks pleading to Putin
>Dear Commander-In-Chief President Madison, We volunteers of the Kentucky militia were ordered against the law and our contracts to invade Upper Canada. At Queenston Heights, we were ordered to assault an impossible position with no support against well entrenched Limey-monarchists, and their Indian Confederation advisors. Mr President we fulfilled our duty despite great hardship and loss. We ask that we not be deployed outside of the United States as this is in violation of the Constitutional Law and regulations. Our officers refuse to pay us, and beat us. We have no equipment. Please listen to our plea, Mr. President.
You are just pissed that Jackson kicked your ass in new orleans
Cope, seethe, and dilate. Britain won, and thank God for it. I would have to endure state-mandated troony story time along with BLM fiery, yet peaceful, protests.
>Britain won
Nope.
>America Won
Nope
>Injuns Lost
Correct.
IN 1814 WE TOOK A LITTLE TRIP
The British have their own cope version of this song were they win the battle of new orleans.
Post it or shut the frick up.
This is just a lazy edit anon.
There is no contemporary of johnny horten in the UK, and none of the other artists in the UK that have a patriotic bone in their body would dare cope about 1812 when they have alot better shit to sing about.
Imagine making a cope song trying to save face losing to a bunch of toothless hillbillies.
U S A, U S A, U S A
WE WENT WITH COLONEL JACKSON DOWN THE MIGHTY MISSISSIP
I don't think you actually know what the War of 1812 was anon
I know exactly what it was about. It was a naked land-grab that would have led to modern me living under the boot of a panopticon glowBlack person police-state in which I am dispossessed of my natural rights in favour of ethnic quotas, compelled speech, avaricious and unregulated oligopolies, and unfair treatment under the law. A land of anarcho-tyranny where FBI agents can pose next to the smoldering corpses of children and people cheer it on prime time TV.
God bless the heroes of Queenston and Lundy’s Lane, York, Chateauguay and Halifax, and the brave boys at sea who fought off you satanic freemasons. God bless and preserve the memory of Tecumseh, Brock and MacDonell, and the war they won outnumbered 10 to 1.
>can't post guns
Opinion disregarded, return to your containment board
candians don't even have rights or a constitution, you have castro's bastard son as a dictator who is taking your guns, despite losing 2/3rds of the vote and not even wining the plurality, and canada owns all your land
canada is more troony than the usa, you also have no guns and all your property is owned by china
sorry, what was that?
couldn't hear you over the sound of your boys getting fricking slaughtered because you dipshits couldn't remember to bring a ladder
and to think that in WW1 you would do the same thing with wire cutters.
Its a hell of a thing when the enemy stops firing on you because they feel SORRY for you.
I’ve done you in . All you can do is sputter and make wild claims.
Britain won 1812-15. The USA lost so badly that towns like Nantucket asked to rejoin the empire because of the blockade. Total humiliation.
So go on and keep yodelling about New Orleans in a war you started that ends with the enemy marching through your country, your economy in recession, culminating with the panic of 1819, and the borders unchanged. What a victory for the ages.
>2 more weeks and we will seize Super Dimensional Fortress York. The British are finished. France will open a Second Front.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>British and Canadian War of aggression
>still lost against the US
Lmao
Nta but aren't the US Canada and UK of that time all literally the same people?
Yes
Here's another tip, they basically are today
The majority of us whites are majority anglo
Not really.
The US were brits who fought against the brits.
Canada were French who wanted to be British subjects.
>Canada were French
No
>get caught out shifting goal posts
>quickly cry "NO I WIN I WIN" to try and avoid addressing the issue
>seethe over new orleans
>continually try to bring ukraine shit into things for some odd reason
uhuh.
it was typical bong bullshit a third time until that last one.
>American General Van Rensselaer ordered more militiamen to cross the Niagara River and land in Queenston. However, the militiamen refused to embark across the Niagara. While the refusal was almost universal, the reasons for it differed from man-to-man.
>Some of the militiamen believed that their loyalties lie with the state and not the federal army and therefore they simply disobeyed their federal leader.
Pre-modern Chechens.
>Few did not want to attack due to their lack of supplies. In fact, many simply saw the attack as futile as the British continued to destroy the boats coming to and from Queenston.
American mobiks kek
>As a result of this mass inactivity, the American soldiers stranded on Queenston Heights continued to face increasing numbers of British reinforcements. Ultimately, the remaining American soldiers, under the command of Lt. Col Winfield Scott retreated from the heights and back down to their beachhead and eventually surrendered to the British.
Who else to send but the VEH DEH VEH?
Imagine believing this bullshit.
Funding the US enemies, refusing to vacate forts on the fronteir and impressing our citizens to fight your wars is reason enough.
Napoleon should have won, FRICK EUROPE AND FRICK THE UK
honoring treaties with allies, hunting criminals and refusing to leave open borders to a expansionist and demonstrably aggressive neighbour, all seems pretty fricking reasonable.
Mmmmno.
The british were gay homosexuals thinking that they were on top of the world and could do whatever they wanted.
They lost and ultimately lost their empire, TO THE USA, LMAO
Hey moron
>A) nothing more than the recapture of deserters, requiring them to fulfil their obligations
As non-english citizens they had no duties to fulfil on behalf of the crown
>B) stopped several weeks before the declaration.
News took months to travel back them moron, the Battle of New Orleans happened after the war ended for example, but you'd have to have a room temp IQ to understand that
Now cope europoor, cope like a good little homosexual
>As non-english citizens they had no duties to fulfil on behalf of the crown
that as the position of the US, the position of the british was that US citizenship is not magic and does not instantly negate any previous obligations, fricker took the shilling, they took on the obligation to serve, desertion and then running to serve another nation didnt change that it only made them criminals. an attitude the US military embraces to this day with its own deserters.
>News took months to travel back them moron, the Battle of New Orleans happened after the war ended for example, but you'd have to have a room temp IQ to understand that
and the US government knew within weeks of starting the years long war that their fig leaf casus belli was pointless, yet continued for years until enough defeats brought them to the table, had their claimed cause been anything but a flimsy pretext for a land grab at canada they ould have made peace much much sooner, after all the closest the british had to a war aim was 'get those crazy frickers to stop shooting so we can get on with killing frenchies;
>wars take a long time when everyone walks to the battles
Damn, I hadnt realized this, it invalidates everything Ive said now
>had their claimed cause been anything but a flimsy pretext for a land grab at canada
It wasn't, the issue of impressment (and the general recognition of the US as a real nation by the Brits) was a frickin major political issue in the early days of the States. You don't get to ignore it just because you're a salty, horse-mouthed, brit
You simply do not understand the history and context of what you are talking about and it shows clear as day
>the closest the british had to a war aim was 'get those crazy frickers to stop shooting so we can get on with killing frenchies
That's usually the goal of people who accidentally incite wars they never wanted, your point?
>nothing more than the recapture of deserters
lmao at Black folk repeating British propaganda more than two hundred years after the fact.
People often forget that the burning of the White House was done as a response to Americans setting fire to the Canadian Parliment building
Napolian, Armenia's most cherished general
The Southern US States really wanted a War and they got one. unlike their other failings, they totally disowned this war though.
imagine starting a war with a nation in hopes to annex land as they're preoccupied with the then world war and still losing whilst in the process having their capital burned down
200 years later their ancestors unironically believe the war was a 'draw' kek
>'draw'
No it's a nothingburger, literally nothing ever came of it
>we burned your building though
Congrats but again, if you look at the historical context this isn't a big deal
Few people gave a shit about governmental statuses of power back then unlike today, though we should go back
>nothingburger
>doesn't argue
>just seethes
Bong pottery
you still lost, homosexual lmao
In 1814 we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississipp’
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans
We fired our guns and the British kept a coming
There wasn’t nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to running
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
We looked down the river and we seen the British come
And there must have been a hundred of them beating on the drums
They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring
We stood behind our cotton bales and didn’t say a thing
Old Hickory said we could take ’em by suprise
If we didn’t fire a musket ’til we looked ’em in the eyes
We held our fire ’til we seen their faces well
We opened up our squirrel guns and really gave ’em
Well they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where the rabbits couldn’t go
They ran so fast the hounds couldn’t catch ’em
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
We fired our cannon ’til the barrel melted down
Then we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round
We filled his head with cannonballs and powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off the gator lost his mind
>building
Buildings. Plural.
Trying to downplay the demoralizing effect of torching Washington smacks of cope.
Absolutely nobody, yesterday or today, cares about some swamp village being burned down except coping cancucks.
>Absolutely nobody
This is the kind of moronic hyperbole that makes people disregard everything you say.
The president, James Madison, fled Washington with his tail between his legs.
>PrepHole tier schzio posting
You're all probably a bunch of shitskin beaners and currywog civic nationalists
If you aren't a subhuman why are you all acting like them?
This is a shitposting thread dummy.
I havent even been to PrepHole
>This is a shitposting thread
Just like nearly every single one of them
Acting like fricking morons allowed this bullshit to happen in the first place, pretending to be moronic and being moronic is indistinguishable
Fricking moron
Sorry mister serious.
Perhaps you could fist your butthole about it???
Frick off moron
The UK didn't fight against Napoleon directly. They waged a Cold War against him by funding the rest of Europe's wars against him which is why even though Napoleon kept defeating them a few years later they'd be back with a new army.
Basically UK did Lend/Lease early 19th century edition.
The only land battle against Napoleon they participated directly in was the Battle of Waterloo. In which Napoleon never stood a realistic chance of winning in the first place since the entirety of Europe was still mobilized with over a million of troops ready to march on France at a moment's notice while Napoleon himself only could muster 100k men at most. The 100 days, his return and subsequent defeat, where the result of delusions of Grandeur without any chance of succeeding.
Spanish campaign, Siege of Toulouse, Siege of Marseille, the campaign of Southern France,Trafalgar, India and the Carribbean. All this while fighting off you judeo-christian values on the other side of the ocean.
Not even bothering to read the rest of your gay cope ramblings. u big dumb.
then what war did sean bean fight in?
Underestimated the US for a second time, seething they lost it.
The bongs tried to keep the americans east of the Mississippi, paying the northern injuns to make war while attacking New Orleans. Unfortunately, the bongs were far too feeble for such. They were defeated north and south, and sought terms.
In 1814 we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip'
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans
We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin'
There wasn't as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
We looked down a river and we see'd the British come
And there must have been a hundred of 'em beatin' on the drum
They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring
We stood behind our cotton bales and didn't say a thing
We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin'
There wasn't as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
Old Hickory said, "We could take 'em by surprise
If we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked 'em in the eye"
We held our fire 'til we see'd their faces well
Then we opened up our squirrel guns and gave 'em
Well, we fired our guns and the British kept a-comin'
There wasn't as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
Yeah, they ran through the briers and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
We fired our cannon 'til the barrel melted down
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round
We filled his head with cannonballs 'n' powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind
We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin'
There wasn't as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
Weren't wars of that era literally just British expats fighting British mainlanders?
The more you dig into early American history, the more you realize how much the Americans were just being huge buttholes
Canada was literally seized by Britain in a blatant landgrab. Get over yourself.
>why did the bongs start and fight the war of 1812