If you can tie your shoes and cut a steak with a fork and knife you can build a P80 glock. Dont buy super cheap ass parts and take your time. Don't get greedy removing material.
This, I have good luck with one of these dremel bits. 76% blanks seem to be approved, but it's still on the bleeding edge of back end gun control.
https://www.deltateamtactical.com/Polymer80-PF940V2-Full-Size-80-Blank--Black_p_37430.html
https://www.deltateamtactical.com/Polymer80-PF940C-Compact-80-Blank--Black_p_37424.html
Cheapest jigs, be sure to get the right one, compact and full size have different pin locations
https://www.ghostgunjigs.com/P80-JIG-C-p/p80-jig-c.htm
You may also need a jig for the fourth hole that isn't in the original jig, you may also be able to figure it out using the locking block.
>compact and full size have different pin locations
I tried a 19 in a 17 jig for the heck of it, and all three holes were off. I was able to get it right by putting the pins in a chuck, getting them warm with a torch then melting the holes over to their correct positions with the rails jammed in tight for guides. Filled the gaps with molten ABS and I now pretty confident I wouldn't really need a jig to do another. Not sure why people seem to have so much trouble with them.
I've had mine for over 2 years and I am still afraid to dremel it and finish it. I am afraid I am going to tard it up and remove too much mat or finish it poorly or something.
They are surprisingly easy, at least for me, tape up the jig, drill from either side, not all the way through, take your time cutting out the tabs and recoil spring slot. If you mess it up and take off a little too much, it won't be visable when the slide is on and will still probably work. Even this hash of a 76 most likely will work, when he puts in the rear rail.
I feel that, fucking executive dysfunction has my antique rifle rusting when all i have to do is just lybe it up but my brain just isn't letting me do it. I dropped 1800 on a new pc and it's still in the box 3 months later.
It's going to funny when their blanks go back to $100 and finished ones with $35-50 worth of lower parts are still $70. Blowing put all 80% they were left holding.
Finished my P80 glock and first shot was in the middle of a water bottle at 25 yards, pretty impressed. BUT it was shooting brass straight into my face. Upgrading to a Gen4 glock ejector solved the issue.
Even though p80 tells you not to use a drill press it work well for me.
https://i.imgur.com/lnhqJNA.jpg
It's going to funny when their blanks go back to $100 and finished ones with $35-50 worth of lower parts are still $70. Blowing put all 80% they were left holding.
That happened. Their 80s are now $100, the completes with internals are still $70.
Do you guys think it's possible to use one of the new frontier style ar15 jigs on an ar10 80? I know the top plate won't screw on and some adapter would need to be fudged, but would the side plates fit well enough to correctly drill the trigger, hammer and safety holes?
If you align the rear takedown pin on a ar-10 and ar-15 lower the selector holes, trigger and hammer holes, and FCG pocket are in the same spot. As long as you don't have to rely on the front takedown or buffer extension for your jig you are fine.
80% Arms GST-9 MOD1, definitely more expensive compared to my PF940V2 but feels much more comfortable. I know it isn't a perfect comparison as it's based off of a 17 vs the GST's 19 but that's what I got.
The lower two thirds of the GST-9 grip is slightly fatter and rounder than the 940, feels much more natural gripping it with your middle, ring, and pinkie as you're wrapping your hand around a round shape than a boxy one. It gives your thumb an easier time with the mag/slide release. I don't like how the front of the trigger guard is tapered downwards instead of having a convenient place to grip your other index finger on, the 940 does that much better. I don't really use the little thumb rest where the slide lock is since my grip doesn't put my thumb there but I can see how it would be useful. Makes taking the slide off much easier, at least.
The GST-9 jig is so much easier to use than the Poly80 one as it's held together tightly with bolts and nuts. Still single use as the drill holes will most likely be unusably deformed after use.
GST-9 frame is even easier to mill out than Poly80's as the little tab that blocks the recoil spring is on the very front instead of buried farther back to just before the start of the rails. Buzzing away the tabs where the rails would go and drilling the holes are exactly the same. I didn't bother using the included mill bit but I did use a bit from an AR15 80% jig with a drill press.
The rails are superior when compared the Poly80s, no doubt. Both my 940V2 and 9SS had rail problems out the ass which took a lot of reworking and replacing to fix, they made the gun feel cheap and rattly even when they were new.
I have medium sized hands so I didn't end up needing the G17 length grip but it's nice that you can change it.
Not including accessories, it was about $450. You could definitely buy something cheaper and possibly better but putting it together was fun enough.
tl;dr it's a Gen3 Glone 19 what the did you expect?
Its a bad time to build one of these now. The bridge frames they sell are harder to do and all these might just get banned. Better to wait and see what happens.
Personally I dont see any point in doing this, its better to get a real glock that is reliable.
I went to r/polymer80 and 100% of their hands are black, AND NOW NEED THEM BANNED IMMEDIATELY!! look jack this isnt about gun control its about common sense solutions.
BETTER OFF BUYING A NEW GLOCK FOR ALL THE TIME EFFORT POSTAGE FULING DOWN AND WHATNOT! >Was costing up the p80 g33 in .357 sig and the real gun new cost less! hhahaahah!
So you can just decide to stop following the law against owning land mines or artillery, and magically have them? Guns being illegal makes them harder to buy. Why do poltards and chug chuds use those dunce level arguments?
It was that way when I first looked at p80s years ago too, prices have come down if you want something more mainstream like a 17 or 19. I put a few together under $250. The real deal right now is to buy one of the completed frames dtt was left holding by the ruling clarification, they have most versions and colors, then put a cheap assembled slide on it.
https://jsdsupply.com/shop/patmos-arms-judah-19/
$220 clone, building it yourself at the present time it'd be +$30 for a jig +$30 for the increased cost of the blank +$35 for the lpk.
When I bought some 3d print LPKs from JSD, they included completed slides as well that I wasn't expecting. Very inexpensive if you don't mind the obvious cheapness in the patmos slides.
Listen fats, Im going to to tell you straight off the shoulder like I promised you. This is the fastest way to arm a jungle bunny with a glock40 problem solver.
so $220 + $95 = $315 Plus Postage, say $20
Thats $335 plus your time labor and fucking it up and trusting your life to your curiosity vs. buying a new glock for $200 more, ready to shoot out of the box and the gun was designed too! Oh and tools, electricity gas to go get the shit and Band-Aids from all the poking you give your hands cutting out all that plastic shit. Fuck that. I hate polymers anyway. have fun dont have a nice day
i don't understand how these are any better than just 3d printing one.
i wouldn't rely on a polymer 80 glock as a carry gun, so what difference does it make
>i wouldn't rely on a polymer 80 glock as a carry gun, so what difference does it make
Yea trusting your life with some garage gunsmithing is not a good idea. People who build these run into all kids of problems because of how the parts all fit together. They will do multiple builds before they get one that runs good.
you can still buy 80% kits with rails, unserialized, but they can't be bought together with everything else needed to complete the build. you need to make a separate order, or choose a different vendor, for the rest of the shit. I dunno where these 76% kits come into play, or finer semantical details, but there's the tldr.
The atf released a clarification letter that striker fired 80% frames were verboten even if not packaged with a jig after the moms who needed action bitched. P80 stuck with it and released 76% blanks with a bit material in the fire control pockets, I believe they have atf approval but haven't seen a determination letter yet. If you want a little more legal coverage than that 80percentarms has a court injunction against the atf allowing them to sell their gst 80s. The injunction is promising and all the atfs latest rulings may be overturned in court, but in the mean time vendors are rapidly adapting to put out product.
I will forever hold onto the dream of a 0% kit, turning a literal plain solid block of metal into a usable lower.
Bonus points for -100% kits >melt down aluminum cans >mold into rough 20% lower >jig to turn it into an 80% >finish to completion with standard 80% jig >takes ques from 3D printed designs to compensate for weaker materials
They did, but there have been some court injunctions that allow companies to be in a grey area of selling them, so some do.
The ruling ended up being pretty toothless, just that you couldn't sell blanks and jigs to finish them. Then they said no glock clones. They were trying to ban p80s within their legal rights, but made a convoluted hash of it and probably don't have those rights.
What it has functionally changed is you have to buy 80s without anything else, p80s have another hole to be drilled and a little more plastic to be dremeled, and many 80s are unavailable until the market settles out.
i want to make a gun colored like a doughnut.
anyone have a place i can source a pink slide i can cerakote some sprinkles on and a tan/FDE/brown frame?
Here, not a scam, give them a call about doing a frosted sprinkle one rather than buying pink then trying to add. But maybe that's how you do it, I don't know how cerakote works.
May not have been clear enough there, you can make a very basic lathe by putting pins or rods in a power drill and pressing them against a stationary file.
I have a 80% frame for a 1911 because to me that makes more sense. There's really not much benefit to hand finishing a glock vs a 1911 which can really use the help.
Then I remembered even stainless steel is pretty hard.
I carved out a p80 glock 17 frame (aside from the drilling) with a pocket knife and it works fine. it isn't the prettiest thing on earth but who cares. it is a tool, not a fashion accessory. Did a glock 20 too and it is my primary woods gun.
If you can tie your shoes and cut a steak with a fork and knife you can build a P80 glock. Dont buy super cheap ass parts and take your time. Don't get greedy removing material.
This, I have good luck with one of these dremel bits. 76% blanks seem to be approved, but it's still on the bleeding edge of back end gun control.
https://www.deltateamtactical.com/Polymer80-PF940V2-Full-Size-80-Blank--Black_p_37430.html
https://www.deltateamtactical.com/Polymer80-PF940C-Compact-80-Blank--Black_p_37424.html
Cheapest jigs, be sure to get the right one, compact and full size have different pin locations
https://www.ghostgunjigs.com/P80-JIG-C-p/p80-jig-c.htm
You may also need a jig for the fourth hole that isn't in the original jig, you may also be able to figure it out using the locking block.
Has anyone bought one of those 76ers yet?
>compact and full size have different pin locations
I tried a 19 in a 17 jig for the heck of it, and all three holes were off. I was able to get it right by putting the pins in a chuck, getting them warm with a torch then melting the holes over to their correct positions with the rails jammed in tight for guides. Filled the gaps with molten ABS and I now pretty confident I wouldn't really need a jig to do another. Not sure why people seem to have so much trouble with them.
I've had mine for over 2 years and I am still afraid to dremel it and finish it. I am afraid I am going to tard it up and remove too much mat or finish it poorly or something.
They are surprisingly easy, at least for me, tape up the jig, drill from either side, not all the way through, take your time cutting out the tabs and recoil spring slot. If you mess it up and take off a little too much, it won't be visable when the slide is on and will still probably work. Even this hash of a 76 most likely will work, when he puts in the rear rail.
>will still probably work
Imagine trusting your life on those words and this work. lmao.
I'm not suggesting people use the gun they cobbled together as their carry piece. Maybe if they put a few thousand rounds through it first.
I feel that, fucking executive dysfunction has my antique rifle rusting when all i have to do is just lybe it up but my brain just isn't letting me do it. I dropped 1800 on a new pc and it's still in the box 3 months later.
Some people have trouble with steak.
Yeah, tons of idiots die choking on a piece of steak every year.
This was their greatest mistake with the P80, they made it so easy a moron could do it.
hey that's my line
Let them have unreliable guns. When it jams they will get shot by the other person.
youtube. drill press. KM Tac, JSD supply, Durkin Tac, Delta Team Tac, the last of which has COMPLETED serialized frames for 70 beans right now kek
It's going to funny when their blanks go back to $100 and finished ones with $35-50 worth of lower parts are still $70. Blowing put all 80% they were left holding.
i love the glork.
meth is a hell of a drug
are there still cans or parts of it on ebay?
for lawnmowers in minecraft of course
Finished my P80 glock and first shot was in the middle of a water bottle at 25 yards, pretty impressed. BUT it was shooting brass straight into my face. Upgrading to a Gen4 glock ejector solved the issue.
I thought throwing brass in your face was pretty standard for glocks
Gen 3, yes. The gen 4 ejector pushes more aggressively down and sideways so it doesn't throw the brass back at you.
Billet 80% ar15 $30 with code GUNDEALS1
https://venom-defense.com/sand-blasted-ar-15-billet-80-lower-receiver/
Forged light blem for $32? After code MARCH23
https://www.righttobear.com/blem-80-ar15-raw-lower-optional-engravings/
Use a drill press and go slow
Even though p80 tells you not to use a drill press it work well for me.
That happened. Their 80s are now $100, the completes with internals are still $70.
Do you guys think it's possible to use one of the new frontier style ar15 jigs on an ar10 80? I know the top plate won't screw on and some adapter would need to be fudged, but would the side plates fit well enough to correctly drill the trigger, hammer and safety holes?
If you align the rear takedown pin on a ar-10 and ar-15 lower the selector holes, trigger and hammer holes, and FCG pocket are in the same spot. As long as you don't have to rely on the front takedown or buffer extension for your jig you are fine.
Thanks, might give an ar10 a try in that case.
And the 76% blanks are back down to $70, also polymer80 has 50% off store wide, making the prices almost reasonable.
Tempting, but I'm still wondering if I'm gonna be hassled about the ones I bought between the August 23rd cutoff and the clarification letter.
They should just rename their site to Polymer76 at this point. Also the ATF Rule on frames and receivers has been recently blocked:
I have strong hope that polymer80 will be selling 80 percenters again.
DONT use a drill press. retard
80% Arms GST-9 MOD1, definitely more expensive compared to my PF940V2 but feels much more comfortable. I know it isn't a perfect comparison as it's based off of a 17 vs the GST's 19 but that's what I got.
The lower two thirds of the GST-9 grip is slightly fatter and rounder than the 940, feels much more natural gripping it with your middle, ring, and pinkie as you're wrapping your hand around a round shape than a boxy one. It gives your thumb an easier time with the mag/slide release. I don't like how the front of the trigger guard is tapered downwards instead of having a convenient place to grip your other index finger on, the 940 does that much better. I don't really use the little thumb rest where the slide lock is since my grip doesn't put my thumb there but I can see how it would be useful. Makes taking the slide off much easier, at least.
The GST-9 jig is so much easier to use than the Poly80 one as it's held together tightly with bolts and nuts. Still single use as the drill holes will most likely be unusably deformed after use.
GST-9 frame is even easier to mill out than Poly80's as the little tab that blocks the recoil spring is on the very front instead of buried farther back to just before the start of the rails. Buzzing away the tabs where the rails would go and drilling the holes are exactly the same. I didn't bother using the included mill bit but I did use a bit from an AR15 80% jig with a drill press.
The rails are superior when compared the Poly80s, no doubt. Both my 940V2 and 9SS had rail problems out the ass which took a lot of reworking and replacing to fix, they made the gun feel cheap and rattly even when they were new.
I have medium sized hands so I didn't end up needing the G17 length grip but it's nice that you can change it.
Not including accessories, it was about $450. You could definitely buy something cheaper and possibly better but putting it together was fun enough.
tl;dr it's a Gen3 Glone 19 what the did you expect?
Its a bad time to build one of these now. The bridge frames they sell are harder to do and all these might just get banned. Better to wait and see what happens.
Personally I dont see any point in doing this, its better to get a real glock that is reliable.
I went to r/polymer80 and 100% of their hands are black, AND NOW NEED THEM BANNED IMMEDIATELY!! look jack this isnt about gun control its about common sense solutions.
Did Biden ever get a hair transplant
duh
BETTER OFF BUYING A NEW GLOCK FOR ALL THE TIME EFFORT POSTAGE FULING DOWN AND WHATNOT!
>Was costing up the p80 g33 in .357 sig and the real gun new cost less! hhahaahah!
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/962459836
he's going to really regret that when he wants to kill himself and he has to buy a new gun
kek
So you can just decide to stop following the law against owning land mines or artillery, and magically have them? Guns being illegal makes them harder to buy. Why do poltards and chug chuds use those dunce level arguments?
(You)
It was that way when I first looked at p80s years ago too, prices have come down if you want something more mainstream like a 17 or 19. I put a few together under $250. The real deal right now is to buy one of the completed frames dtt was left holding by the ruling clarification, they have most versions and colors, then put a cheap assembled slide on it.
https://jsdsupply.com/shop/patmos-arms-judah-19/
$220 clone, building it yourself at the present time it'd be +$30 for a jig +$30 for the increased cost of the blank +$35 for the lpk.
When I bought some 3d print LPKs from JSD, they included completed slides as well that I wasn't expecting. Very inexpensive if you don't mind the obvious cheapness in the patmos slides.
Listen fats, Im going to to tell you straight off the shoulder like I promised you. This is the fastest way to arm a jungle bunny with a glock40 problem solver.
so $220 + $95 = $315 Plus Postage, say $20
Thats $335 plus your time labor and fucking it up and trusting your life to your curiosity vs. buying a new glock for $200 more, ready to shoot out of the box and the gun was designed too! Oh and tools, electricity gas to go get the shit and Band-Aids from all the poking you give your hands cutting out all that plastic shit. Fuck that. I hate polymers anyway. have fun dont have a nice day
It's a hobby anon, the point is to have fun and make something.
the mental gymnastics is insane on this one lmfaoooo
i don't understand how these are any better than just 3d printing one.
i wouldn't rely on a polymer 80 glock as a carry gun, so what difference does it make
>i wouldn't rely on a polymer 80 glock as a carry gun, so what difference does it make
Yea trusting your life with some garage gunsmithing is not a good idea. People who build these run into all kids of problems because of how the parts all fit together. They will do multiple builds before they get one that runs good.
Max cope
Buy at least 2 your first one will suck.
so whats the deal with 80% kits now? are they still a thing or do you have to to regular ffl paperwork along with the whole DIY?
too fucking lazy to read it all
you can still buy 80% kits with rails, unserialized, but they can't be bought together with everything else needed to complete the build. you need to make a separate order, or choose a different vendor, for the rest of the shit. I dunno where these 76% kits come into play, or finer semantical details, but there's the tldr.
much obliged sir.
The atf released a clarification letter that striker fired 80% frames were verboten even if not packaged with a jig after the moms who needed action bitched. P80 stuck with it and released 76% blanks with a bit material in the fire control pockets, I believe they have atf approval but haven't seen a determination letter yet. If you want a little more legal coverage than that 80percentarms has a court injunction against the atf allowing them to sell their gst 80s. The injunction is promising and all the atfs latest rulings may be overturned in court, but in the mean time vendors are rapidly adapting to put out product.
I will forever hold onto the dream of a 0% kit, turning a literal plain solid block of metal into a usable lower.
Bonus points for -100% kits
>melt down aluminum cans
>mold into rough 20% lower
>jig to turn it into an 80%
>finish to completion with standard 80% jig
>takes ques from 3D printed designs to compensate for weaker materials
I made a piece of tube steel into a single shot ar lower, thinking back it was significantly harder than finishing a regular 80%.
I've been out of the loop for a long time. I thought the ATF fucked over 80% receivers or something?
They did, but there have been some court injunctions that allow companies to be in a grey area of selling them, so some do.
The ruling ended up being pretty toothless, just that you couldn't sell blanks and jigs to finish them. Then they said no glock clones. They were trying to ban p80s within their legal rights, but made a convoluted hash of it and probably don't have those rights.
What it has functionally changed is you have to buy 80s without anything else, p80s have another hole to be drilled and a little more plastic to be dremeled, and many 80s are unavailable until the market settles out.
i want to make a gun colored like a doughnut.
anyone have a place i can source a pink slide i can cerakote some sprinkles on and a tan/FDE/brown frame?
Your only option for unfinished frames right now are black plastic.
https://www.deltateamtactical.com/polymer80-pfc9-frame-fde.html
https://www.gotosportsgear.com/Slide-For-Glock-19-Cerakote-p/cds-slide-g19-colors.htm
im not a felon, i'd take a finished frame
its as long as im not paying full price for a glock brand glock just to meme it into a joke pistol
that gotosportsgear site looks like a straight up scam. Im suprised theres actual text on the about site and not just lorem ipsum
You're right, that's a scam, I didn't read anything past pink slide.
Here, not a scam, give them a call about doing a frosted sprinkle one rather than buying pink then trying to add. But maybe that's how you do it, I don't know how cerakote works.
https://kmtactical.net/product/cerakoted-rmr-cut-slide-for-glock-19-gen-3/
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I noticed my trigger pin was walking out. I punched it back in, but should I be worried? It has seen maybe 500-700 rounds so far.
You could get anti walk pins, or chuck the pins you have in a hand drill and make the cuts yourself with a small file.
May not have been clear enough there, you can make a very basic lathe by putting pins or rods in a power drill and pressing them against a stationary file.
I have a 80% frame for a 1911 because to me that makes more sense. There's really not much benefit to hand finishing a glock vs a 1911 which can really use the help.
Then I remembered even stainless steel is pretty hard.
I carved out a p80 glock 17 frame (aside from the drilling) with a pocket knife and it works fine. it isn't the prettiest thing on earth but who cares. it is a tool, not a fashion accessory. Did a glock 20 too and it is my primary woods gun.