The roles are now reversed. Russia builds high tech and expensive weapons in very few quanity, while America builds low tech and cheap weapons in more quantity. Comrade Stalin would be proud of Amerikanskis for copying superior Soviet idealogy.
>F-35 >Low Tech >SU-57 >High Tech
Russia just can't produce new high tech anything. Good Avionics don't translate to a check-box list like this and the SU-57 has none of this. Flight performance for F-35 may not be that impressive but you better believe it outclasses the SU-57 in every other way
yeah, it's pretty embarrassing that russians have to spam misleading graphics about their 4.5 gen non stealth plane that will never see widespread service
SU-57 total numbers: 20, with half being prototypes.
F-35 total: 900+
The west literally can just drown a single SU-57 in F-35s and that's not even getting into how utterly outclassed the SU-57 is. Honestly, I'd put good money on an F-15 being capable of putting an SU-57 out if its misery.
anon, you make a good point. Having a fleet of 1000 aircraft with more on the way leads to accidents becoming a statistical certainty. Russia is really on to something with the whole not building any aircraft strategy to avoid incidents like this. Unfortunately, they seem to still be dealing with the negative consequences of their Soviet predecessors making the mistake of actually producing weapons
>SU-57 >less than 10 exist >still more crashes than f-35
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/12/24/new-russian-su-57-stealth-fighter-crashes-during-tests-a68727
Oh, are we back to comparing Russian vaporware to American hardware, because you can't prove the Russian vaporware sucks if it doesn't exist to get BTFO in Ukraine?
>>Can be equiped with ground to surface missiles.
What?
And can you compare actual stats that matter? Like, dunno, radar range, EW suit, datalinks, RCS, price, numbers built, HIV rates in Russia...
>Supermanoevrability
Yes. Spelled supermaneuverability but yes. The likes of Growling Sidewinder helps perpetuate the meme. If you type it into google, you'll mostly get SUCKA-SUGOIS.
yeah, also a highly reliable outlet from a well-recognized author known for this factual accuracy has proven that the F-35 can indeed get needful'd by an S-300:
https://eurasiantimes.com/unusual-failure-f-35-jets-operating-in-stealth-mode-helping/
F-35 was always good. Just because Armatard and his discord buddies pretended it wasn't by spamming how it was shit doesn't make it shit. Is it the best the US could have designed? No. Is it better than literally every aircraft around? Yes >B-b-but F-22
Doesn't even have integrated helmets.
It always was.
The only question was if it was worth the money especially when there's no peer aircraft that requires something as good as the F-35. Really it seems like we could have just thrown that money at the F22 and been fine for another few decades as china and russia try and fail repeatedly to reach 5th gen.
>anon learns about weapons development
yes my friend, when you spend years addressing issues with a system, turns out it has less issues a decade later. Really mindbending stuff
>supermanuverability
Kind of a nebulous metric >supersonic flight without afterburners
sure lets just frame random trivia as a win-loss condition to make one side look better
A lot of the information on the F-35 is also classified, which explains why none of this shit is cited properly.
Look at how Russia is doing with their tanks. What if he knew how utterly dog shit they were and that a 105mm armed M48 could outclass the best MBTs russia could produce.
Except that you can build way more of of F-35s, thousands of F-35 meanwhile one SU-57 is more expensive than your entire town's bloodline. Stats arent everything.
What kind of moron denotes a lack of something by putting an X in the checkbox?
>doesnt compare radar cross sections
Gee i wonder why they lwft that out
"Stealth Capabilities" being checked for both is bullshot. At best the SU-57 is LO, it isn't stealth.
>le Suck dick 57
The roles are now reversed. Russia builds high tech and expensive weapons in very few quanity, while America builds low tech and cheap weapons in more quantity. Comrade Stalin would be proud of Amerikanskis for copying superior Soviet idealogy.
Like artillery guns and shells?
>high tech
Youve got to be fricking joking
That pic cant be real
I didnt think russia could disappoint me any more but god damn
you really don't know how bad things really are, do you?
There’s no way that’s real.
>Virgin spend money on radar lens to obscure RCS
vs
>Chad just use cheap screws in uncovered holes until war
>the Philips head is stripping, it’s over Hohols
>F-35
>Low Tech
>SU-57
>High Tech
Russia just can't produce new high tech anything. Good Avionics don't translate to a check-box list like this and the SU-57 has none of this. Flight performance for F-35 may not be that impressive but you better believe it outclasses the SU-57 in every other way
Su-57 has nothing in flight performance, it's flying with Su-35 engines and is just a moronic bodykit.
>According to the Patent, Su-57 is only as stealthy as a F/A-18
How can Russia claim the Su-57 is a stealth aircraft with a straight face?
Planes that don't exist have extremely small radar cross-sections
But enough about the SU-75
>stealth?
>da tovarisch *~~
yeah, it's pretty embarrassing that russians have to spam misleading graphics about their 4.5 gen non stealth plane that will never see widespread service
Compare to the F-22 instead, F-35 is single engine.
Frick off Turk, you had your chance with the F-35 and blew it.
https://twitter.com/trdiplomacy/status/1167514437932212226?lang=zh-Hant
>f-35
SU-57 total numbers: 20, with half being prototypes.
F-35 total: 900+
The west literally can just drown a single SU-57 in F-35s and that's not even getting into how utterly outclassed the SU-57 is. Honestly, I'd put good money on an F-15 being capable of putting an SU-57 out if its misery.
anon, you make a good point. Having a fleet of 1000 aircraft with more on the way leads to accidents becoming a statistical certainty. Russia is really on to something with the whole not building any aircraft strategy to avoid incidents like this. Unfortunately, they seem to still be dealing with the negative consequences of their Soviet predecessors making the mistake of actually producing weapons
>SU-57
>less than 10 exist
>still more crashes than f-35
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/12/24/new-russian-su-57-stealth-fighter-crashes-during-tests-a68727
Oh, are we back to comparing Russian vaporware to American hardware, because you can't prove the Russian vaporware sucks if it doesn't exist to get BTFO in Ukraine?
>>Can be equiped with ground to surface missiles.
What?
And can you compare actual stats that matter? Like, dunno, radar range, EW suit, datalinks, RCS, price, numbers built, HIV rates in Russia...
>ground to surface missiles
You see hohol, we dont even need plane to take off to strike your Patriots.
>S for suck
>u for urethra
>57 for number of urethras sucked
>russia literally sucked 57 urethras
russia is confirmed gay????
>Su-57 smokes
>F-35 no smokes
Su-57 >>>>>>>>>>>> F-35
Armatard sucking all these donkey dicks is indeed very embarrassing.
>stealth capabilities
>SU-57
lol
whatever you do, don't compare their numbers built
Sucking Uranus 57 times. Stealthy.
The day when one of these piles of shit crashed into a bush was one of the best days of my life.
>shit-57
>stealth capabilities
...lmao even
>In service
3 vs >1000
Not quite 1000, but getting close.
I think the may 1st update said just over 900 delivered.
Should be 1000 by the end of the year.
>Supermanoevrability
Is this hypersonics meme all over again?
>Supermanoevrability
Yes. Spelled supermaneuverability but yes. The likes of Growling Sidewinder helps perpetuate the meme. If you type it into google, you'll mostly get SUCKA-SUGOIS.
SU-57's stealth capabilities are vastly superior to the F-35, because you cant see what doesn't exist.
yeah, also a highly reliable outlet from a well-recognized author known for this factual accuracy has proven that the F-35 can indeed get needful'd by an S-300:
https://eurasiantimes.com/unusual-failure-f-35-jets-operating-in-stealth-mode-helping/
test
>inb4 F35 is now good
F-35 was always good. Just because Armatard and his discord buddies pretended it wasn't by spamming how it was shit doesn't make it shit. Is it the best the US could have designed? No. Is it better than literally every aircraft around? Yes
>B-b-but F-22
Doesn't even have integrated helmets.
It always was.
The only question was if it was worth the money especially when there's no peer aircraft that requires something as good as the F-35. Really it seems like we could have just thrown that money at the F22 and been fine for another few decades as china and russia try and fail repeatedly to reach 5th gen.
>anon learns about weapons development
yes my friend, when you spend years addressing issues with a system, turns out it has less issues a decade later. Really mindbending stuff
>supermanuverability
Kind of a nebulous metric
>supersonic flight without afterburners
sure lets just frame random trivia as a win-loss condition to make one side look better
A lot of the information on the F-35 is also classified, which explains why none of this shit is cited properly.
>Sure lets just frame random trivia as a win-loss condition
As much as people shit on Sprey
Look at how Russia is doing with their tanks. What if he knew how utterly dog shit they were and that a 105mm armed M48 could outclass the best MBTs russia could produce.
Except that you can build way more of of F-35s, thousands of F-35 meanwhile one SU-57 is more expensive than your entire town's bloodline. Stats arent everything.
does the F-35 have its own practical emergency oxygen supply? That's right.
Exactly, overstating your plane's abilities is pretty pathetic