I took down the drywall in the living room in my dad's (was actually some weird fiber board) and there was a ton of weird electrical work hidden behind the walls, like junction boxes etc. House was built in 1890 as a vacation house, guessing electrified in the 20s or so, then it was upgraded at some point maybe in the 40s or 50s cause it's not knob and tube.
previous boomer who owned my house (Sears kit home, built in the 50s) decided it would look better in the unfinished basement to paint all the water pipes on the ceiling black to match the gas pipes.
when it is
I had an inspector go through a foreclosure and confirm all of the old wiring was dead the week before we closed, then I tasted 240 across my arm when the "dead" wiring came back to life. Inspectors are worthless and I was a fool to place value on what they say, let alone pay them for it.
Shutting off the main breaker in the house didn't even kill the power to the knob and tube because some farmer at the turn of the century had tied it straight to the detached garage, which some other schmuck tied back into the old fuse box with buried aluminum from a new meter.
inspectors are usually only in their position as they are enabled by contractual, government sanctioned obligations
of course they are worthless and do a half ass, piss poor, damn near fraudulent job, same as every other government employee
when it is
I had an inspector go through a foreclosure and confirm all of the old wiring was dead the week before we closed, then I tasted 240 across my arm when the "dead" wiring came back to life. Inspectors are worthless and I was a fool to place value on what they say, let alone pay them for it.
Shutting off the main breaker in the house didn't even kill the power to the knob and tube because some farmer at the turn of the century had tied it straight to the detached garage, which some other schmuck tied back into the old fuse box with buried aluminum from a new meter.
Insurance wants all k&t ripped out and replaced for these reasons and anything that would require them to pay out.
when it is
I had an inspector go through a foreclosure and confirm all of the old wiring was dead the week before we closed, then I tasted 240 across my arm when the "dead" wiring came back to life. Inspectors are worthless and I was a fool to place value on what they say, let alone pay them for it.
Shutting off the main breaker in the house didn't even kill the power to the knob and tube because some farmer at the turn of the century had tied it straight to the detached garage, which some other schmuck tied back into the old fuse box with buried aluminum from a new meter.
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Insurance wants all k&t ripped out and replaced for these reasons and anything that would require them to pay out.
When I was buying my house the bank gave me a hard time because there was clearly disconnected knob and tube in the basement. It didn't run into the walls and you could clearly see it was cut at both ends but they wanted it removed, which the seller eventually agreed to do. I thought this was stupid at the time but after hearing about stuff like this happening I can understand why a bank/insurance company would have a "remove all knob and tube no matter what" policy.
shark bite is ok as an emergency end stop, you can jam it onto a pipe without shutting off the water, it won't crush the end and get stuck like compression olives do, the little scrapes it puts don't interfere with a soldered joint, and you can keep reusing it until the o-ring finally gets ripped on a saw cut.
they're best used like a tool, not a permanent fitting that you'd seal up behind a wall. They're expensive and an a rubber seal isn't as robust as solder/crimping/doped threads
sharkbite is fine. plumbers hate it because its super fast and homeowners can do it themselves without playing with a torch and solder like a moronic teenager.
Plumbn*ggers swear up and down these things fail all the time but I haven't seen one leaking sharkbite fitting in all my time doing shit on people's houses.
Sharkbite is fine for a one time patch but if you're doing more than 3 connections ever you might as well get the PEX crimpers and save money in the long run.
Can confirm. I was told almost this exact sentence when talking to the industrial plumbers on one of our big projects. Of course a proper sealed joint is better, but sharkbites will work as long as you don't expect it to be bombproof
Good emergency solution, bad permanent solution. That flimsy piece of rubber will inevitably age and crack, which will lead to leaks. At most they'll last a decade, and that's assuming that you don't move the pipes at all, there is zero stress on the fitting, and the rubber is not exposed to uv light, heat or freezing temperatures at all.
Live in a house built in the 2000s.
Built by highschool dropout construction crew.
I found their phone numbers behind some drywall.
Go to remove light fixture.
Slowly pull it out and the wires…. snap.
They nicks they left in the wire went 90% through it and broke off.
Now lay awake at night wondering if I need to re-do all the electrical.
>have to live in your house knowing it could all randomly burn down one day
I feel your pain, my house was also built in the 2000s by a bunch of mexicans.
every time I DIY something I find some new half-assed bullshit behind the walls.
My house is ~120 years old. The people who lived in it for the ~20 years before me were boomers but the husband was a carpenter and the house had been maintained to a very high degree. You need to be sensitive to that kinda thing when considering houses. A lot of 60s-era houses in particular are 120% used-up boomer nests but the clues are always present and you have to read between the lines and expect that shitty visible work = shitty invisible work as well. You can tell because they'll have little 'make do' adaptations like lean-tos and janky steps, but sometimes the visible jank is quite subtle and you need to know what you're looking at. Rarely are the big problems on immediate display, but if you see the small signs of neglect and bodging you can safely assume it exends to larger matters.
Old houses that have been well maintained are fricking great. Extreme material quality and workmanship compared to modern builds, and will outlast any modern house given equal care an attention over time.
>You need to be sensitive to that kinda thing when considering houses.
true. my house is 60s, single owner who was a carpenter and spec'd the build. nothing has been repaired because it's had preventative maintenance
My parent's house was built in 1899 and has an addition from the 1940s. It's pretty solid but dad has done a ton of modifications and just doesn't give a frick about fit and finish. You can rest assured that the electrical is going to be absolutely up to code, unless it requires the wall to be closed back up afterwards. All over the house there are open walls from where he did a repair or changed something and just didn't bother to close it back up. It's all lath and plaster, so I don't blame him for not wanting to redo it that way but throwing up some drywall would be pretty easy. Mom seems completely oblivious to it and since they're the ones who have to live with it, I don't say anything but it's so weird to come over for a holiday and see another section of wall gone somewhere.
I apologize on behalf of /misc/ for the fact that twitter screencap threads are on other boards.
It's one thing for them to ignore it on /misc/ or /b/ but honestly anywhere else it ought to be an instaban.
We were having a nice conversation about bad home repairs then you started talking about pancakes. No one wants to talk about pancakes and you're not a clever boy by posing it as an apology about pancakes. There was zero reason for you to mention pancakes at all. Dont know and don't care what your goal is but go jump down a mineshaft. If you survive, you can talk about pancakes all you want down there without derailing other people's conversations.
your dad and mine would be pals
my parents bought a fixer-upper when i was 5 years old and one of the first thing my dad did was to remove the ceilings (don't ask me why, i was 5)
putting up new ceilings was the last thing he did before selling / moving out 18 years later
so yeah for 18 years my parents lived in a house without ceilings
At least a lumber house can be easily repaired. I'm starting to see horrific shit in older ICF homes. There are fricking disasters hiding behind all that foam.
Nobody said that though, you're just mad that someone pointed out that the generations before the current one sucked ass and made shit objectively harder.
We have it easier than pretty much any other group of humans in all of history. At no other point in time could you be as fricking clueless, useless, and lazy as 90% of the population is and still survive. But government gibs and NEETing makes that a possibility.
Yeah, boomers had it easy. But any zoomer complaining about how hard they have it as some form of validation for their laziness is worthless.
simply because the life of a men prisoner is more stable, lengthy, and comfortable than even the richest kings prior to the 1800s doesn't mean even a poor man from before that time would choose it.
I don't disagree with you. But the bar for personal (non-career oriented) achievement within a lifetime has also been raised due to tech and societal advances, yet few people take full advantage of it due to laziness and lack of willpower.
Your basic physical needs are now taken care of with very little effort, and the entirety of humanity's knowlege is easily accessible to everyone, allowing people to devote more time towards developing non-survival related skill sets. Yet zoomers still sit on their asses consoooming slop entertainment en masse and whine about how hard life is.
Not that anon, and the original post was cringe af. The problem is boomers decided mass immigration was better than teaching their children, free college because think of the children, and let's ignore how the fed will print your money away as you make it anyway. Boomers ignored Ron Paul. Therefore, frick boomers.
Now, I post this as a Zoomer sitting comfortably in his own home that I bought without any family help (they came out the woodwork to furnish it with their junk tbh though). I'm such a rare example it's embarrassing.
Idk who failed, but as a Zoomer that's figures out how to get what I wanted, gotta say, it was basically sleepless. I hear boomers complain about 12 hour shifts. I'd watch the sunrise twice plowing snow over a weekend, then do my normal 8 hours at work as a mechanic. Btw, going out and shoving snow down your back is way more effective than coffee.
Now, I just barely made it with that. My pop raised 6 of us working like that.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Are you me? Also a home owning zoomer, and I work as a mechanic and plow in the winter, kek. Though, I did get insanely lucky with house prices and a rock bottom interest since I bought during the first peak of covid, so I could scrape together a down payment without any help.
I'm not saying that things are better now than they've ever been so far as the economy is concerned. You have to work your ass off a lot harder now to get the same things boomers did back in the day. But despite pulling 10s during the week and plowing during nearly all of my free time for half the year, I know I'm not working as hard as a serf in the 1600s was to provide for his family. Just because shit is hard doesn't give you an excuse to quit because the game is unfair. But a lot of zoomers see that things aren't as luxurious as they were and give up like homosexuals.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Different Anon, but I'm also a zoomer that just bought a house this year. didnt tell family I was even house shopping until the day I signed the deed. Since I've done electrical and building work for fun, figured I would buy a fixer upper for cheap.
I only work 8 hours a day, but i feel like a big problem is that work feels soul crushing with how connected everybody is now due to social media. I was told that no matter what, I should finish college so I can get a high paying job. I haven't been able to find anything in my field of study in 4 years and am currently working somewhere where I make life or death decisions for other people, constantly getting yelled at because someone who makes 50x what I make made some terrible decision that puts other people's lives at stake
We're literally a generation that was raised with so much bad stuff being thrown at us, its impossible to care about anything. A ton of zoomers are lazy because they don't see anything improving no matter how hard they work. There are so many ways I want to improve this house, but I'm too fricking depressed to do anything meaningful in any reasonable time. I JUST built a utility closet on the main floor last weekend, and Ive had the framing for it put up since March.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>with so much bad stuff being thrown at us
*laughs in genx*
oh you poor sweet child
5 months ago
Anonymous
Stop blaming externalities. Stop caring about "soul" crushed or otherwise and ruthlessly get money. Stop thinking like a girl.
Your field of study failing to get money was a mistake but that can be rectified by doing what gets money. Shoot your inner child in the figurative face and embrace beautiful hard toxic (to homosexuals anyway) masculinity. Everything childish is bad including children.
People are worthless. Homes are worthy so dive in and make that your escape. Men need castles. The more you do the faster you get and can savor personal victory.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Are you me? Also a home owning zoomer, and I work as a mechanic and plow in the winter, kek. Though, I did get insanely lucky with house prices and a rock bottom interest since I bought during the first peak of covid, so I could scrape together a down payment without any help.
I'm not saying that things are better now than they've ever been so far as the economy is concerned. You have to work your ass off a lot harder now to get the same things boomers did back in the day. But despite pulling 10s during the week and plowing during nearly all of my free time for half the year, I know I'm not working as hard as a serf in the 1600s was to provide for his family. Just because shit is hard doesn't give you an excuse to quit because the game is unfair. But a lot of zoomers see that things aren't as luxurious as they were and give up like homosexuals.
>figured I would buy a fixer upper for cheap.
Lol, 25 y/o and also just bought my house cheaply. Planning on fixing it myself for the mostpart, (not plumbing or electrical).
My friends seem to want to keep renting or living NEET at home with mommy and daddy , i dont get it. Renting isnt great but the only option besides buying I guess.
>work was intermittent - called to a halt for breakfast, lunch, the customary afternoon nap, and dinner. Depending on time and place, there were also midmorning and midafternoon refreshment breaks. These rest periods were the traditional rights of laborers, which they enjoyed even during peak harvest times. During slack periods, which accounted for a large part of the year, adherence to regular working hours was not usual.
>The ancien règime in France is reported to have guaranteed fifty-two Sundays, ninety rest days, and thirty-eight holidays. In Spain, travelers noted that holidays totaled five months per year.
>An important piece of evidence on the working day is that it was very unusual for servile laborers to be required to work a whole day for a lord. One day's work was considered half a day, and if a serf worked an entire day, this was counted as two "days-works."
5 months ago
Anonymous
>The problem is boomers decided mass immigration was better than teaching their children, free college because think of the children, and let's ignore how the fed will print your money away as you make it anyway. Boomers ignored Ron Paul. Therefore, frick boomers.
most of that shit actually came in during the 60s and 70, before boomers could even vote. you sound like a typical /misc/tard who doesn't know the timeline of anything or even understands that time goes in one direction, and everything doesn't happen all at once.
I really don’t know what you’re on about by literal boomer mom does nothing but sit on her ass and watch tv. Many boomers are like that. I would like to know where this massive movement of boomers is that are taking full advantage of all that is available to develop themselves in far greater numbers than zoomers doing the same thing. I think people are people.
5 months ago
Anonymous
My ex-MIL spent her entire life watching the toyvoy. Left school at 12, never worked, married early, had 2 kids, climbed up onto the sofa, switched the TV on and remained there for 48 years. Also illiterate, no driver's licence, couldn't use an ATM so had to go into the bank with her bank book like a little kid. Fricking useless, clueless blob
5 months ago
Anonymous
This. Every generation has go-getters and useless slobs. It's just the useless slobs that want to blame their failures on someone else now have the internet to spread their stupidity all across the land.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>people are people
What boomers may or may not have done is mostly up to debate, but one thing that they're definitely guilty of is turning whining into a job.
People whined back in the day too, but if you whined too much, you would be considered a crybaby, and people would inevitably tell you to shut the frick up and go handle your shit.
It wasn't until boomers showed up that the picketing and complaining became not only socially acceptable, but praised, advertised and funded..
In that they are different from the people before them. They are the first to industrialize whining.
we could of course google this but that would make too much sense. I thought the "boom" started after the war, meaning 1945. Are you thinking that the boom started in 1940, and continued through the war. Hmm, that's definitely the PrepHole mode of thinking.
>I thought the "boom" started after the war,
The Baby Boom started during the war. Lots of people getting married in a rush before they get shipped off. But the Baby Boomer Generation is generally considered from 1940-1960.
Either way yeah, Boomers weren't "fixing" electrical systems in 1957. But don't forget that "Boomer" these days just means "anyone who likes things I don't and is older than me."
>The Baby Boom started during the war. >The Post-War Baby Boom started during the war.
back-dating the baby boomers to 1940 is a recent thing. it was typically between 1948 and 1950 to 1965.
but yes, these days boomer is older person i don't like.
Previous owners left a 15 amp cable severed and live up in my joists. I was fricking around with plumbing less than a foot away from the exposed wires, because why on earth would that be live, right? I'm assuming I could've died from it.
I apologize on behalf of /misc/ for the fact that twitter screencap threads are on other boards.
It's one thing for them to ignore it on /misc/ or /b/ but honestly anywhere else it ought to be an instaban.
Boomers: millennials are so stupid and lazy they don’t deserve houses
Boomers: let’s have the millennials come in and fix our fricked up DIY houses because we thought we could install shit on our own by going to Home Depot and buying it doing no research and trying to use our shitty Chinese black and decker tools to install it
Also boomers: let’s put the used razor blades in our walls
>Also boomers: let’s put the used razor blades in our walls
that was a great idea. tell me how you would regularly dispose of double edged razor blades in a house with kids. I doubt if any handyman ever had an issue with a wall full of them.
>No such thing
What kind of pussy ass parents did you guys have? Shit doesn't need to be out of reach if the kid knows what it is and to not frick around with it. When I was maybe 2 years old my mom walked up to me and showed me what a razorblade was and cut her own finger to show me it was dangerous. I never played with razorblades and I still treat all blades with respect to this day. The only kids that get killed by dumb shit are the sheltered ones.
When the slot inevitably fills up, or there are renovations done, there is a risk that a bunch of sharp rusty blades will fall on whomever comes to fix it. However, that would be some time into the future, and as a result,
https://i.imgur.com/sKPvyBB.gif
not my problem
logic holds true for the person who originally installed the razor slot.
It will never fill up. Just look at the picture, that's probably like 60 years of razors and the slot is nowhere close to full.
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My grandparents had one of these razor slots in a white trash trailer.
One day the toilet had to be replaced along with some plumbing, there was hundreds of rusty blades all over the ground.
If me had a rusty razor blade for every time someone tries and fails to use "whom" correctly, me could fill my wall.
5 months ago
Anonymous
the laziest way is substitute he/him
he comes to fix it -> who comes to fix it
it was come to be fixed by him -> it was come to be fixed by whom
its to do with subject/object whatever the frick that means (nobody really knows)
5 months ago
Anonymous
>the laziest way is substitute he/him
I think the issue is that we grow up around people who would never say "me baked a cake", but who say "who" for both cases. Then we go to school and are taught who/whom, and some of us learn it and others, like that poster up there, always get it wrong, but still want to be correct.
My advice is just use "who" all the time unless you really do know and understand the rule. Otherwise them is going to sound moronic to anyone whom knows the rule, and me should just ignore they.
>Also boomers: let’s put the used razor blades in our walls
that was a great idea. tell me how you would regularly dispose of double edged razor blades in a house with kids. I doubt if any handyman ever had an issue with a wall full of them.
I can't think of a scenario where this would be an issue. Small pieces of steel inside the wall? How terrible..
>can make a mess
Never happened to me, sounds like a skill issue >or injure the garbage man
Not my problem, sounds like an occupational hazard he should have been prepared for
which backwards country do you live where the garbage man has to touch the garbage, we have pic rell.
it goes straight to the incerator, after that the blades are not sharp anymore and if not completly gone get picked up by a magnet from the ash.
the ashes and filter dust goes down into a old salt mine.
A lot of cities and town in America still do manual garbage collection. They may have trucks that can pick up bins but it's not mandatory to put your trash in those. Some cities would rather pay a guy's salary even if it is marginally more expensive. Automated garbage collection as high maintenance costs for hydraulics and controls, and invariably it causes a mess when a bin spills. Resident complains, the city has to send a crew to clean up.
loose blades in the trash can make a mess or injure the garbage man
>take old blade from safety razor >replace with new blade >put old blade in wrapper of old blade >break in half lengthwise folding blade in half >repeat widthwise >throw in garbage >for extra protection wrap in packing tape >or just use the used blade cases that are disposed of when full
You do realize people still shave with these things today, right? Last time I checked I don’t dump the goddamn blades into a hole in my wall.
>out of reach
No such thing.
>remove all utilities sharp objects and chemicals from house because they aren’t out of reach
K homosexual.
Millennials would all be dead inside of a week without the civilization that boomers built. > hey… uhhh… can’t come into work today. Muh Milwaukee battery won’t charge > you can use the ones in the shop > uhhh… I can’t deal with the cord so, uhh, best get someone else
Zoomers would be dead inside of a day without the Internet that boomers made due to mass suicides.
Millennials and Zoomers are basically a Pakled race.
>Internet that boomers made
The internet was created in the 60s, basically when the boomers were teens
Boomers as a group didn't really create much, their generation is the first generation where producers started to be out-numbered by eaters and that trend continues to today
>The internet was created in the 60s, basically when the boomers were teens
no, the defense network that lead to the internet was created in the 60s. otherwise you had may as well say cellphones were invented during world war 2.
boomers aren't just random old people to us; they're our parents
>they’d die without the internet >the internet that was made by boomers >the internet that boomers let their kids frick around with unsupervised and without limits when they were supposed to be responsibly raising them
OK
>Also boomers: let’s put the used razor blades in our walls
that was a great idea. tell me how you would regularly dispose of double edged razor blades in a house with kids. I doubt if any handyman ever had an issue with a wall full of them.
I wanna be mad about the razor blade thing but I think it's fricking genius >They take up almost 0 volume >No mold >Wall cavity empty anyway
Top notch problem solving tbh
>Also boomers: let’s put the used razor blades in our walls
that was a great idea. tell me how you would regularly dispose of double edged razor blades in a house with kids. I doubt if any handyman ever had an issue with a wall full of them.
https://i.imgur.com/3HzBu1E.jpg
It's kinda wild that people actually did this and thought it was reasonable.
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I can't think of a scenario where this would be an issue. Small pieces of steel inside the wall? How terrible..
When the slot inevitably fills up, or there are renovations done, there is a risk that a bunch of sharp rusty blades will fall on whomever comes to fix it. However, that would be some time into the future, and as a result, [...] logic holds true for the person who originally installed the razor slot.
My grandparents had one of these razor slots in a white trash trailer.
One day the toilet had to be replaced along with some plumbing, there was hundreds of rusty blades all over the ground.
And they were dull as frick after being in the dirt all those years... Still a complete non issue for anyone with at least 2 brain cells. You all act like these groups of razor blades are going to come jumping out of the wall and slit your throat and circumcise you in your sleep...
This is an attempt by normal people to reason with people who grew up with helicopter parents. They grew up in a different world that was very scary outside of TV and video games. The thought of letting your kid go on his bike and be back before supper time is literal child neglect in their world.
It's kinda wild that people actually did this and thought it was reasonable.
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I wanna be mad about the razor blade thing but I think it's fricking genius >They take up almost 0 volume >No mold >Wall cavity empty anyway
Top notch problem solving tbh
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I can't think of a scenario where this would be an issue. Small pieces of steel inside the wall? How terrible..
>Also boomers: let’s put the used razor blades in our walls
I thought this was a joke about using asbestos or something but americans (don't say rent-free, nobody else builds hollowed out paper mache houses) actually put razor blades in their walls. This is the definition of "not my problem" and a good analogy why the world will never come together and solve our societal and ecological problems. Also it is beyond moronic. There is literally no way this is easier than just putting them in a mason jar.
I ran some romex out of an exterior outlet to my Eufy cam hanging from the soffit. I didn't measure the distance and had to splice some romex together because I didn't have enough. My splice is just wrapped in electrical tape laying on a joist. Am I at risk of fire and do I need to put that splice in some kind of junction box
It's code, but it's also a best practice.... Wiring problems tend to develop at a wiring device such as a receptacle or a switch, or at a splice. The only reasons that they tend to go bad in the middle of a wire run is because of physical damage such as rodents, an errant nail penetration, etc.
It just makes life a lot easier to try to fix or modify anything later on when you don't have any buried splices.
I really don’t know what you’re on about by literal boomer mom does nothing but sit on her ass and watch tv. Many boomers are like that. I would like to know where this massive movement of boomers is that are taking full advantage of all that is available to develop themselves in far greater numbers than zoomers doing the same thing. I think people are people.
>I think people are people.
I'm old enough to remember how actual baby boomers would talk about how once their generation got control of the political and economic power, there was going to be a revolution of progressive social change. They thought they were so much smarter, cooler, and more hip than their parents' backwards generation. Are you noticing any parallels?
> They thought they were so much smarter, cooler, and more hip than their parents' backwards generation. Are you noticing any parallels?
Uhhh that every generation does the same thing? Every generation of PEOPLE do what the previous generation did??
I genuinely fail to see what point you’re making other than proving mine.
>I genuinely fail to see what point you’re making other than proving mine.
I was agreeing with you.
"Are you noticing any parallels" was rhetorical, and I apologize that I could have made that more clear.
My point was that while socioeconomic circumstances may change (often in a somewhat cyclical manner), the people are still essentially the same in a broad way.
First off, romex is only to be used inside joist and stud bays, never on the surface or exposed to UV or weather. Use UF wire, BX, MC or conduit instead depending on the application and potential for physical damage.
All splices need to be in a junction box, both as code and best practices because splices and devices are the typical points of failure and fire.
There are special quad isolation terminal blocks that can be used for splicing without a box when insulating with shrink tube after proper tightening of the terminal lugs on the wire with an actual torque gauge.
If you want to sleep in a house filled with flying splices of dubious stability, then that’s on you.
These people complain about houses built in the 1970's. Try fixing a house built cheap in the 1920's. I couldn't figure out why the windows were so cold (they were replaced in the 1980's). One day took the wall apart and realized that the builders in the 1920's don't fill any gaps. Back then they used hemp rope, but where it should have been there was nothing.
How were boomers supposed to know that future houses would be so poorly built that their old houses would be sought after? Honestly I don't blame them, their nicer houses were way cheaper than the shit we have today. They could've burnt down their house with a wiring frickup and not been able to collect any insurance and still manage to buy a new house relatively easily.
The lower quality and high cost of housing is 100% because of the immigration act btw
Immigration is only one side of the coin: The other is the quagmire of construction permits, zoning laws, building codes, etc that has, over the past 50 years or so, become orders of magnitude more complex and restrictive.
Constructing about 4 million units of basic concrete low-rise apartments and townhomes as close as possible to the center of the top 30 cities in the US would basically solve the housing crisis. Even if you don't want to live in one of them, there are plenty of people who would because they will be cheap, and that takes off a lot of competition pressure for other housing.
No. Those projects failed because they ignored the human need for green spaces, for diversion, and for fulfillment.
Anon is talking about something closer to a commie block - a low rise surrounded by a green space and with parks and tools available. Commie blocks were a failure because they were built like shit - thin walls, small apartments, bad windows. Those design flaws can be easily fixed.
>would be sought after
are you moronic? People buy terrible run-out boomer homes because they're cheaper than buying newer houses that aren't filled with asbestos and shitty paper-wrapped wire.
I haven't been in a single house made in the 50s that didn't have rotted out rim joists right at the doors.
this is what americans get for buying fixer upper houses or doing so.
if i buy a house i plan to live till i die the only option is to buy a house not renvovated the last few decades (also makes it cheaper).
then take it back to basicly pic rel a so called "raw build" . then start from scratch new pipes new electrics new heating then finish everything.
only idiots renovate a bathroom while keeping the pipes and shitty wires only to cry about leaks in 5 years having to break the new bathroom again.
boomers here were so lazy they usualy bought a house in the 50-60s and never renovated nor even painted it, s this is actually the best you can start from not stupid fixes no now moldy insulation,
this is what people with money do over here, Rip all the old junk out, water line gets the sawzall right behind the meter, electrics often to if there older than 50 years. thats just the eol of the material there is no sense in laying new floor or putting new wallpaper up knowing the 50yo galvanized pipes can leak any moment.
there is also the fun of trying to replace small bits here and there were outmodded 30 years ago.
>oh hey, homes dont use 10" duct work anymore >we also stopped making interior doors that could crush small horses. have fun finding something thats 'close enough'
1900 proto craftsman here and there is still a lot of live abandoned K&T in here that freaks me out. My second story/attic (bungalow) is all on romex as far as I can tell, but there are still live K&T coming up through the floor. Half of my first floor is all K&T. Maybe someday I'll get ambitious enough to kill it entirely.
I just throw my razor blades in the same bathroom trash can as all the other bathroom waste (used dental floss, empty toothpaste tubes, etc.). Why shouldn't I?
I live in a 1960s house built by my great-grandpa
Had to replace all the wiring since it was the old cloth wiring with steel piping, was rotting all over and outlets were burnt
brick and mortar building btw so no just pulling the drywall out
>want to buy an old house to fix it up >boomer children selling them after their parents die or stuffed into a retirement home >want extra on the house price because if it gets fixed up it will be worth more >literally trying to price in renovation works that someone else will do >house sells to a developer who knocks it down to build a duplex
housing is fricked in this country, can you guess which one it is?
HAHAHA OMG ROFL
DAE LE?????/
I knew Dick. He was a good fella. Had a gimp knee. Died of lung cancer.
well, he was in the war. that was hard on a lotta boys.
I took down the drywall in the living room in my dad's (was actually some weird fiber board) and there was a ton of weird electrical work hidden behind the walls, like junction boxes etc. House was built in 1890 as a vacation house, guessing electrified in the 20s or so, then it was upgraded at some point maybe in the 40s or 50s cause it's not knob and tube.
previous boomer who owned my house (Sears kit home, built in the 50s) decided it would look better in the unfinished basement to paint all the water pipes on the ceiling black to match the gas pipes.
genious !
>modern romex replaces knob and tube
>knob and tube left in walls is not live
>except when it is
Never a dull moment working on this old shitbox.
when it is
I had an inspector go through a foreclosure and confirm all of the old wiring was dead the week before we closed, then I tasted 240 across my arm when the "dead" wiring came back to life. Inspectors are worthless and I was a fool to place value on what they say, let alone pay them for it.
Shutting off the main breaker in the house didn't even kill the power to the knob and tube because some farmer at the turn of the century had tied it straight to the detached garage, which some other schmuck tied back into the old fuse box with buried aluminum from a new meter.
inspectors are usually only in their position as they are enabled by contractual, government sanctioned obligations
of course they are worthless and do a half ass, piss poor, damn near fraudulent job, same as every other government employee
>Inspectors are worthless
You got that right. In my city they have to take a 50 question T/F test to become certified--no prior experience needed.
Insurance wants all k&t ripped out and replaced for these reasons and anything that would require them to pay out.
When I was buying my house the bank gave me a hard time because there was clearly disconnected knob and tube in the basement. It didn't run into the walls and you could clearly see it was cut at both ends but they wanted it removed, which the seller eventually agreed to do. I thought this was stupid at the time but after hearing about stuff like this happening I can understand why a bank/insurance company would have a "remove all knob and tube no matter what" policy.
The fricker who lived in my house before spliced Romex in the knob and tube in the fricking walls
I do the house repairs at my dads house, house built in 1980’s
Someone patched drywall with construction adhesive
90% of shit was screwed to the studs even when it didn’t need to be
No anchors in anything
So many shark bites
>So many shark bites
I have a coworked that swear by these things. Redpill me on them, PrepHole
shark bite is ok as an emergency end stop, you can jam it onto a pipe without shutting off the water, it won't crush the end and get stuck like compression olives do, the little scrapes it puts don't interfere with a soldered joint, and you can keep reusing it until the o-ring finally gets ripped on a saw cut.
And this is bad...?
they're best used like a tool, not a permanent fitting that you'd seal up behind a wall. They're expensive and an a rubber seal isn't as robust as solder/crimping/doped threads
sharkbite is fine. plumbers hate it because its super fast and homeowners can do it themselves without playing with a torch and solder like a moronic teenager.
Plumbn*ggers swear up and down these things fail all the time but I haven't seen one leaking sharkbite fitting in all my time doing shit on people's houses.
>sharkbite is fine
That statement will be tested in about 30 years.
Sharkbite is fine for a one time patch but if you're doing more than 3 connections ever you might as well get the PEX crimpers and save money in the long run.
Can confirm. I was told almost this exact sentence when talking to the industrial plumbers on one of our big projects. Of course a proper sealed joint is better, but sharkbites will work as long as you don't expect it to be bombproof
sharkbites leak because any butthole can install one with zero knowledge but if you don't prep the pipe it won't make a good connection
you still have to clean up the pipe and ream the cut end properly.
If everything is properly supported and there's no stress on the fitting, sharkbites last forever
Good emergency solution, bad permanent solution. That flimsy piece of rubber will inevitably age and crack, which will lead to leaks. At most they'll last a decade, and that's assuming that you don't move the pipes at all, there is zero stress on the fitting, and the rubber is not exposed to uv light, heat or freezing temperatures at all.
i've buried so many sharkbites on sidejobs
don't call me when it breaks, b***hes, i ain't no service plumber
Live in a house built in the 2000s.
Built by highschool dropout construction crew.
I found their phone numbers behind some drywall.
Go to remove light fixture.
Slowly pull it out and the wires…. snap.
They nicks they left in the wire went 90% through it and broke off.
Now lay awake at night wondering if I need to re-do all the electrical.
>have to live in your house knowing it could all randomly burn down one day
I feel your pain, my house was also built in the 2000s by a bunch of mexicans.
every time I DIY something I find some new half-assed bullshit behind the walls.
one of my coworkers sheetrocked over a plastic skeleton just to frick with homosexuals like you
Very spoopy facebook "humor"
Heh, don't give me any more ideas.
My house is ~120 years old. The people who lived in it for the ~20 years before me were boomers but the husband was a carpenter and the house had been maintained to a very high degree. You need to be sensitive to that kinda thing when considering houses. A lot of 60s-era houses in particular are 120% used-up boomer nests but the clues are always present and you have to read between the lines and expect that shitty visible work = shitty invisible work as well. You can tell because they'll have little 'make do' adaptations like lean-tos and janky steps, but sometimes the visible jank is quite subtle and you need to know what you're looking at. Rarely are the big problems on immediate display, but if you see the small signs of neglect and bodging you can safely assume it exends to larger matters.
Old houses that have been well maintained are fricking great. Extreme material quality and workmanship compared to modern builds, and will outlast any modern house given equal care an attention over time.
>You need to be sensitive to that kinda thing when considering houses.
true. my house is 60s, single owner who was a carpenter and spec'd the build. nothing has been repaired because it's had preventative maintenance
My parent's house was built in 1899 and has an addition from the 1940s. It's pretty solid but dad has done a ton of modifications and just doesn't give a frick about fit and finish. You can rest assured that the electrical is going to be absolutely up to code, unless it requires the wall to be closed back up afterwards. All over the house there are open walls from where he did a repair or changed something and just didn't bother to close it back up. It's all lath and plaster, so I don't blame him for not wanting to redo it that way but throwing up some drywall would be pretty easy. Mom seems completely oblivious to it and since they're the ones who have to live with it, I don't say anything but it's so weird to come over for a holiday and see another section of wall gone somewhere.
We were having a nice conversation about bad home repairs then you started talking about pancakes. No one wants to talk about pancakes and you're not a clever boy by posing it as an apology about pancakes. There was zero reason for you to mention pancakes at all. Dont know and don't care what your goal is but go jump down a mineshaft. If you survive, you can talk about pancakes all you want down there without derailing other people's conversations.
your dad and mine would be pals
my parents bought a fixer-upper when i was 5 years old and one of the first thing my dad did was to remove the ceilings (don't ask me why, i was 5)
putting up new ceilings was the last thing he did before selling / moving out 18 years later
so yeah for 18 years my parents lived in a house without ceilings
At least a lumber house can be easily repaired. I'm starting to see horrific shit in older ICF homes. There are fricking disasters hiding behind all that foam.
My house was built by a lighthouse keeper, im the second owner
He did good work
>booms suct yo
The very oldest Boomers, who were even born, would be at most 11 years old in 1957, you subhuman zoomer moron.
Ok Boomer.
>wahh I'm going to give up on life because le boomers make me seethe and I'm too lazy to make my own path through life.
boomers aren't just random old people to us; they're our parents
People who b***h about their parents as adults are usually infantilized failures who don't accept personal responsibility for their lives or actions.
>all parents are virtuous bcoz parents
What did you do?
I'm in my mid-30s, but my wife and I have Gen X parents. Boomers are just a large cohort with too many good goyim.
I'm 29 and my parents are gen X
On life? No. Just on you 🙂
Nobody said that though, you're just mad that someone pointed out that the generations before the current one sucked ass and made shit objectively harder.
millennials and zoomers are lazy fricks, fight me.
oh wait, I already won.
We have it easier than pretty much any other group of humans in all of history. At no other point in time could you be as fricking clueless, useless, and lazy as 90% of the population is and still survive. But government gibs and NEETing makes that a possibility.
Yeah, boomers had it easy. But any zoomer complaining about how hard they have it as some form of validation for their laziness is worthless.
simply because the life of a men prisoner is more stable, lengthy, and comfortable than even the richest kings prior to the 1800s doesn't mean even a poor man from before that time would choose it.
I don't disagree with you. But the bar for personal (non-career oriented) achievement within a lifetime has also been raised due to tech and societal advances, yet few people take full advantage of it due to laziness and lack of willpower.
Your basic physical needs are now taken care of with very little effort, and the entirety of humanity's knowlege is easily accessible to everyone, allowing people to devote more time towards developing non-survival related skill sets. Yet zoomers still sit on their asses consoooming slop entertainment en masse and whine about how hard life is.
Not that anon, and the original post was cringe af. The problem is boomers decided mass immigration was better than teaching their children, free college because think of the children, and let's ignore how the fed will print your money away as you make it anyway. Boomers ignored Ron Paul. Therefore, frick boomers.
Now, I post this as a Zoomer sitting comfortably in his own home that I bought without any family help (they came out the woodwork to furnish it with their junk tbh though). I'm such a rare example it's embarrassing.
Idk who failed, but as a Zoomer that's figures out how to get what I wanted, gotta say, it was basically sleepless. I hear boomers complain about 12 hour shifts. I'd watch the sunrise twice plowing snow over a weekend, then do my normal 8 hours at work as a mechanic. Btw, going out and shoving snow down your back is way more effective than coffee.
Now, I just barely made it with that. My pop raised 6 of us working like that.
Are you me? Also a home owning zoomer, and I work as a mechanic and plow in the winter, kek. Though, I did get insanely lucky with house prices and a rock bottom interest since I bought during the first peak of covid, so I could scrape together a down payment without any help.
I'm not saying that things are better now than they've ever been so far as the economy is concerned. You have to work your ass off a lot harder now to get the same things boomers did back in the day. But despite pulling 10s during the week and plowing during nearly all of my free time for half the year, I know I'm not working as hard as a serf in the 1600s was to provide for his family. Just because shit is hard doesn't give you an excuse to quit because the game is unfair. But a lot of zoomers see that things aren't as luxurious as they were and give up like homosexuals.
Different Anon, but I'm also a zoomer that just bought a house this year. didnt tell family I was even house shopping until the day I signed the deed. Since I've done electrical and building work for fun, figured I would buy a fixer upper for cheap.
I only work 8 hours a day, but i feel like a big problem is that work feels soul crushing with how connected everybody is now due to social media. I was told that no matter what, I should finish college so I can get a high paying job. I haven't been able to find anything in my field of study in 4 years and am currently working somewhere where I make life or death decisions for other people, constantly getting yelled at because someone who makes 50x what I make made some terrible decision that puts other people's lives at stake
We're literally a generation that was raised with so much bad stuff being thrown at us, its impossible to care about anything. A ton of zoomers are lazy because they don't see anything improving no matter how hard they work. There are so many ways I want to improve this house, but I'm too fricking depressed to do anything meaningful in any reasonable time. I JUST built a utility closet on the main floor last weekend, and Ive had the framing for it put up since March.
>with so much bad stuff being thrown at us
*laughs in genx*
oh you poor sweet child
Stop blaming externalities. Stop caring about "soul" crushed or otherwise and ruthlessly get money. Stop thinking like a girl.
Your field of study failing to get money was a mistake but that can be rectified by doing what gets money. Shoot your inner child in the figurative face and embrace beautiful hard toxic (to homosexuals anyway) masculinity. Everything childish is bad including children.
People are worthless. Homes are worthy so dive in and make that your escape. Men need castles. The more you do the faster you get and can savor personal victory.
>figured I would buy a fixer upper for cheap.
Lol, 25 y/o and also just bought my house cheaply. Planning on fixing it myself for the mostpart, (not plumbing or electrical).
My friends seem to want to keep renting or living NEET at home with mommy and daddy , i dont get it. Renting isnt great but the only option besides buying I guess.
You're working way more than a serf.
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html
>work was intermittent - called to a halt for breakfast, lunch, the customary afternoon nap, and dinner. Depending on time and place, there were also midmorning and midafternoon refreshment breaks. These rest periods were the traditional rights of laborers, which they enjoyed even during peak harvest times. During slack periods, which accounted for a large part of the year, adherence to regular working hours was not usual.
>The ancien règime in France is reported to have guaranteed fifty-two Sundays, ninety rest days, and thirty-eight holidays. In Spain, travelers noted that holidays totaled five months per year.
>An important piece of evidence on the working day is that it was very unusual for servile laborers to be required to work a whole day for a lord. One day's work was considered half a day, and if a serf worked an entire day, this was counted as two "days-works."
>The problem is boomers decided mass immigration was better than teaching their children, free college because think of the children, and let's ignore how the fed will print your money away as you make it anyway. Boomers ignored Ron Paul. Therefore, frick boomers.
most of that shit actually came in during the 60s and 70, before boomers could even vote. you sound like a typical /misc/tard who doesn't know the timeline of anything or even understands that time goes in one direction, and everything doesn't happen all at once.
I really don’t know what you’re on about by literal boomer mom does nothing but sit on her ass and watch tv. Many boomers are like that. I would like to know where this massive movement of boomers is that are taking full advantage of all that is available to develop themselves in far greater numbers than zoomers doing the same thing. I think people are people.
My ex-MIL spent her entire life watching the toyvoy. Left school at 12, never worked, married early, had 2 kids, climbed up onto the sofa, switched the TV on and remained there for 48 years. Also illiterate, no driver's licence, couldn't use an ATM so had to go into the bank with her bank book like a little kid. Fricking useless, clueless blob
This. Every generation has go-getters and useless slobs. It's just the useless slobs that want to blame their failures on someone else now have the internet to spread their stupidity all across the land.
>people are people
What boomers may or may not have done is mostly up to debate, but one thing that they're definitely guilty of is turning whining into a job.
People whined back in the day too, but if you whined too much, you would be considered a crybaby, and people would inevitably tell you to shut the frick up and go handle your shit.
It wasn't until boomers showed up that the picketing and complaining became not only socially acceptable, but praised, advertised and funded..
In that they are different from the people before them. They are the first to industrialize whining.
zoomer here i am actually incredibly lazy i don't blame the boom-booms even though I know they didn't leave a perfect world for us
>11 years old in 1957,
ITYM "17 years old" HTH, HAND
we could of course google this but that would make too much sense. I thought the "boom" started after the war, meaning 1945. Are you thinking that the boom started in 1940, and continued through the war. Hmm, that's definitely the PrepHole mode of thinking.
>I thought the "boom" started after the war,
The Baby Boom started during the war. Lots of people getting married in a rush before they get shipped off. But the Baby Boomer Generation is generally considered from 1940-1960.
Either way yeah, Boomers weren't "fixing" electrical systems in 1957. But don't forget that "Boomer" these days just means "anyone who likes things I don't and is older than me."
>The Baby Boom started during the war.
>The Post-War Baby Boom started during the war.
back-dating the baby boomers to 1940 is a recent thing. it was typically between 1948 and 1950 to 1965.
but yes, these days boomer is older person i don't like.
The baby boomer generation is defined by the census bureau as being born between 1946 and 1964. It's the only generation that is actually defined.
Alan mustache seems very happy to rent a shitbox apartment in a big city for $3000 a month
Previous owners left a 15 amp cable severed and live up in my joists. I was fricking around with plumbing less than a foot away from the exposed wires, because why on earth would that be live, right? I'm assuming I could've died from it.
every wire is live, *inhales* especially muh dick.
Electricity can kill you, 99% of the time it'll just tickle you unless you do an idiot combo.
>why on earth would that be live, right?
A more important question is "why didn't you test it?"
I apologize on behalf of /misc/ for the fact that twitter screencap threads are on other boards.
It's one thing for them to ignore it on /misc/ or /b/ but honestly anywhere else it ought to be an instaban.
Boomers: millennials are so stupid and lazy they don’t deserve houses
Boomers: let’s have the millennials come in and fix our fricked up DIY houses because we thought we could install shit on our own by going to Home Depot and buying it doing no research and trying to use our shitty Chinese black and decker tools to install it
Also boomers: let’s put the used razor blades in our walls
>Also boomers: let’s put the used razor blades in our walls
that was a great idea. tell me how you would regularly dispose of double edged razor blades in a house with kids. I doubt if any handyman ever had an issue with a wall full of them.
Mason jars put out of reach
>out of reach
No such thing.
>No such thing
What kind of pussy ass parents did you guys have? Shit doesn't need to be out of reach if the kid knows what it is and to not frick around with it. When I was maybe 2 years old my mom walked up to me and showed me what a razorblade was and cut her own finger to show me it was dangerous. I never played with razorblades and I still treat all blades with respect to this day. The only kids that get killed by dumb shit are the sheltered ones.
Lol your mom was a cutter before it was cool.
Cutting was cool back in the 70s. I doubt Anon's mom is that old.
>that was a great idea
sure, just like pouring oil into a pit in your backyard
You got a problem with recycling, buddy?
It came out of the ground.
They're just putting it back where it came from.
doesnt everyone do this?
i have a nice little spot in the corner of my yard for all the solvents and oils I need to dispose of
I hope you're kidding. You better not be showering and drinking out of that water. One liter of oil will taint 1 million liters of groundwater.
>tell me how you would regularly dispose of double edged razor blades in a house with kids
scrape it on a brick until it's dull and bin it
>tell me how you would regularly dispose of double edged razor blades in a house with kids.
a locked metal box on a high shelf
It's kinda wild that people actually did this and thought it was reasonable.
not my problem
Why? Its a complete non issue. Now you only have to deal with a stack of old razor blades once instead of once a week...
When the slot inevitably fills up, or there are renovations done, there is a risk that a bunch of sharp rusty blades will fall on whomever comes to fix it. However, that would be some time into the future, and as a result,
logic holds true for the person who originally installed the razor slot.
It will never fill up. Just look at the picture, that's probably like 60 years of razors and the slot is nowhere close to full.
so sweep them up? Don't see the problem.
>whomever comes to fix it.
If me had a rusty razor blade for every time someone tries and fails to use "whom" correctly, me could fill my wall.
the laziest way is substitute he/him
he comes to fix it -> who comes to fix it
it was come to be fixed by him -> it was come to be fixed by whom
its to do with subject/object whatever the frick that means (nobody really knows)
>the laziest way is substitute he/him
I think the issue is that we grow up around people who would never say "me baked a cake", but who say "who" for both cases. Then we go to school and are taught who/whom, and some of us learn it and others, like that poster up there, always get it wrong, but still want to be correct.
My advice is just use "who" all the time unless you really do know and understand the rule. Otherwise them is going to sound moronic to anyone whom knows the rule, and me should just ignore they.
You realize that razor packages have a slot on the back for disposal, right?
Not him, but keeping that trash around until the razor is dull is 100% more of an issue than tossing it in the wall
The other side still has unused razors inside, moron. Let me guess, you only use cartridge razors?
I don't use any razor. Electric buzzer. Don't think those were a thing back then though.
>Why? Its a complete non issue.
>hehehe. I'll never replace this horrible vanity, but this is a problem for the next guy!
I can't think of a scenario where this would be an issue. Small pieces of steel inside the wall? How terrible..
They'll fall on a length of cloth-insulated wire and start a fire. There's a cable running through one of those cavities.
that causes zero problems
loose blades in the trash can make a mess or injure the garbage man
>can make a mess
Never happened to me, sounds like a skill issue
>or injure the garbage man
Not my problem, sounds like an occupational hazard he should have been prepared for
which backwards country do you live where the garbage man has to touch the garbage, we have pic rell.
it goes straight to the incerator, after that the blades are not sharp anymore and if not completly gone get picked up by a magnet from the ash.
the ashes and filter dust goes down into a old salt mine.
America
A lot of cities and town in America still do manual garbage collection. They may have trucks that can pick up bins but it's not mandatory to put your trash in those. Some cities would rather pay a guy's salary even if it is marginally more expensive. Automated garbage collection as high maintenance costs for hydraulics and controls, and invariably it causes a mess when a bin spills. Resident complains, the city has to send a crew to clean up.
>take old blade from safety razor
>replace with new blade
>put old blade in wrapper of old blade
>break in half lengthwise folding blade in half
>repeat widthwise
>throw in garbage
>for extra protection wrap in packing tape
>or just use the used blade cases that are disposed of when full
You do realize people still shave with these things today, right? Last time I checked I don’t dump the goddamn blades into a hole in my wall.
>remove all utilities sharp objects and chemicals from house because they aren’t out of reach
K homosexual.
Millennials would all be dead inside of a week without the civilization that boomers built.
> hey… uhhh… can’t come into work today. Muh Milwaukee battery won’t charge
> you can use the ones in the shop
> uhhh… I can’t deal with the cord so, uhh, best get someone else
Zoomers would be dead inside of a day without the Internet that boomers made due to mass suicides.
Millennials and Zoomers are basically a Pakled race.
>Internet that boomers made
The internet was created in the 60s, basically when the boomers were teens
Boomers as a group didn't really create much, their generation is the first generation where producers started to be out-numbered by eaters and that trend continues to today
>The internet was created in the 60s, basically when the boomers were teens
no, the defense network that lead to the internet was created in the 60s. otherwise you had may as well say cellphones were invented during world war 2.
not if you're a zoomer they're not.
>they’d die without the internet
>the internet that was made by boomers
>the internet that boomers let their kids frick around with unsupervised and without limits when they were supposed to be responsibly raising them
OK
It's really weird seeing how blatantly obvious trolling is when you visit a board, and even weirder when you see morons eating it up.
Boomers were children when people were putting razor blades in the walls
I wanna be mad about the razor blade thing but I think it's fricking genius
>They take up almost 0 volume
>No mold
>Wall cavity empty anyway
Top notch problem solving tbh
My grandparents had one of these razor slots in a white trash trailer.
One day the toilet had to be replaced along with some plumbing, there was hundreds of rusty blades all over the ground.
And they were dull as frick after being in the dirt all those years... Still a complete non issue for anyone with at least 2 brain cells. You all act like these groups of razor blades are going to come jumping out of the wall and slit your throat and circumcise you in your sleep...
This is an attempt by normal people to reason with people who grew up with helicopter parents. They grew up in a different world that was very scary outside of TV and video games. The thought of letting your kid go on his bike and be back before supper time is literal child neglect in their world.
we used to make ramps on the road with plywood and some bricks and jump them on our mountain bikes
imagine a parent allowing that today
>Also boomers: let’s put the used razor blades in our walls
I thought this was a joke about using asbestos or something but americans (don't say rent-free, nobody else builds hollowed out paper mache houses) actually put razor blades in their walls. This is the definition of "not my problem" and a good analogy why the world will never come together and solve our societal and ecological problems. Also it is beyond moronic. There is literally no way this is easier than just putting them in a mason jar.
what a moronic thing to focus on.
I ran some romex out of an exterior outlet to my Eufy cam hanging from the soffit. I didn't measure the distance and had to splice some romex together because I didn't have enough. My splice is just wrapped in electrical tape laying on a joist. Am I at risk of fire and do I need to put that splice in some kind of junction box
All splices should be in boxes.
Is that NEC code or just a best practice
Code requirement.
It's code, but it's also a best practice.... Wiring problems tend to develop at a wiring device such as a receptacle or a switch, or at a splice. The only reasons that they tend to go bad in the middle of a wire run is because of physical damage such as rodents, an errant nail penetration, etc.
It just makes life a lot easier to try to fix or modify anything later on when you don't have any buried splices.
>I think people are people.
I'm old enough to remember how actual baby boomers would talk about how once their generation got control of the political and economic power, there was going to be a revolution of progressive social change. They thought they were so much smarter, cooler, and more hip than their parents' backwards generation. Are you noticing any parallels?
> They thought they were so much smarter, cooler, and more hip than their parents' backwards generation. Are you noticing any parallels?
Uhhh that every generation does the same thing? Every generation of PEOPLE do what the previous generation did??
I genuinely fail to see what point you’re making other than proving mine.
Methinks he was in agreement with your sentiment
Calm down, hostility-kun
>I genuinely fail to see what point you’re making other than proving mine.
I was agreeing with you.
"Are you noticing any parallels" was rhetorical, and I apologize that I could have made that more clear.
My point was that while socioeconomic circumstances may change (often in a somewhat cyclical manner), the people are still essentially the same in a broad way.
Both
Vinyl tape can come undone over time and may not seal well. Hit it with a few layers of scotchkote.
>so much wrong
First off, romex is only to be used inside joist and stud bays, never on the surface or exposed to UV or weather. Use UF wire, BX, MC or conduit instead depending on the application and potential for physical damage.
All splices need to be in a junction box, both as code and best practices because splices and devices are the typical points of failure and fire.
There are special quad isolation terminal blocks that can be used for splicing without a box when insulating with shrink tube after proper tightening of the terminal lugs on the wire with an actual torque gauge.
If you want to sleep in a house filled with flying splices of dubious stability, then that’s on you.
there ARE in wall splice kits but they are like $30 and a small steel handy box is under $2
All my work is redneckism and shitty. One day my trailer is gonna burn
These people complain about houses built in the 1970's. Try fixing a house built cheap in the 1920's. I couldn't figure out why the windows were so cold (they were replaced in the 1980's). One day took the wall apart and realized that the builders in the 1920's don't fill any gaps. Back then they used hemp rope, but where it should have been there was nothing.
How were boomers supposed to know that future houses would be so poorly built that their old houses would be sought after? Honestly I don't blame them, their nicer houses were way cheaper than the shit we have today. They could've burnt down their house with a wiring frickup and not been able to collect any insurance and still manage to buy a new house relatively easily.
The lower quality and high cost of housing is 100% because of the immigration act btw
They were the ones building them
Immigration is only one side of the coin: The other is the quagmire of construction permits, zoning laws, building codes, etc that has, over the past 50 years or so, become orders of magnitude more complex and restrictive.
Constructing about 4 million units of basic concrete low-rise apartments and townhomes as close as possible to the center of the top 30 cities in the US would basically solve the housing crisis. Even if you don't want to live in one of them, there are plenty of people who would because they will be cheap, and that takes off a lot of competition pressure for other housing.
you're basically suggesting a lowrise version of the projects which is a tried and failed concept.
No. Those projects failed because they ignored the human need for green spaces, for diversion, and for fulfillment.
Anon is talking about something closer to a commie block - a low rise surrounded by a green space and with parks and tools available. Commie blocks were a failure because they were built like shit - thin walls, small apartments, bad windows. Those design flaws can be easily fixed.
>high density Black housing will be wonderful if it has more green space
The projects always had tons of parks for them to loiter in... doesn't help shit if you ignore demographics
>buy new house from 3 years income
>why do i care? i can just buy another if this one goes to shit
>would be sought after
are you moronic? People buy terrible run-out boomer homes because they're cheaper than buying newer houses that aren't filled with asbestos and shitty paper-wrapped wire.
I haven't been in a single house made in the 50s that didn't have rotted out rim joists right at the doors.
this is what americans get for buying fixer upper houses or doing so.
if i buy a house i plan to live till i die the only option is to buy a house not renvovated the last few decades (also makes it cheaper).
then take it back to basicly pic rel a so called "raw build" . then start from scratch new pipes new electrics new heating then finish everything.
only idiots renovate a bathroom while keeping the pipes and shitty wires only to cry about leaks in 5 years having to break the new bathroom again.
boomers here were so lazy they usualy bought a house in the 50-60s and never renovated nor even painted it, s this is actually the best you can start from not stupid fixes no now moldy insulation,
Cool hypothetical. If you had the finances to buy houses or the common sense to build, then you wouldn't have had to type that all out.
tell my why?
this is what people with money do over here, Rip all the old junk out, water line gets the sawzall right behind the meter, electrics often to if there older than 50 years. thats just the eol of the material there is no sense in laying new floor or putting new wallpaper up knowing the 50yo galvanized pipes can leak any moment.
>Complains about doing an easy repair in a home that he was only able to afford because it was slightly older
You sound like an entitled little b***h, anon.
there is also the fun of trying to replace small bits here and there were outmodded 30 years ago.
>oh hey, homes dont use 10" duct work anymore
>we also stopped making interior doors that could crush small horses. have fun finding something thats 'close enough'
ITT Geriatric Millennials whine about their grandparents.
1900 proto craftsman here and there is still a lot of live abandoned K&T in here that freaks me out. My second story/attic (bungalow) is all on romex as far as I can tell, but there are still live K&T coming up through the floor. Half of my first floor is all K&T. Maybe someday I'll get ambitious enough to kill it entirely.
I just throw my razor blades in the same bathroom trash can as all the other bathroom waste (used dental floss, empty toothpaste tubes, etc.). Why shouldn't I?
I live in a 1960s house built by my great-grandpa
Had to replace all the wiring since it was the old cloth wiring with steel piping, was rotting all over and outlets were burnt
brick and mortar building btw so no just pulling the drywall out
>want to buy an old house to fix it up
>boomer children selling them after their parents die or stuffed into a retirement home
>want extra on the house price because if it gets fixed up it will be worth more
>literally trying to price in renovation works that someone else will do
>house sells to a developer who knocks it down to build a duplex
housing is fricked in this country, can you guess which one it is?