https://twitter.com/Azovsouth/status/1676311799593857024
4 of them firing at the same time. RIP whatever they were aiming at
Himars platform. 0 recorded losses in a year
https://twitter.com/Azovsouth/status/1676311799593857024
4 of them firing at the same time. RIP whatever they were aiming at
Imagine how much effort Russia is putting into finding one of these and destroying it
I would not be surprised if the random cruise missile attacks are desperate attempts to find and kill a hidden Himars.
Good luck lol. Ukraine has a frickton of soviet bunkers built for WWIII and even underground nuclear weapons storage facilities (one of them was supposedly hit with a kinjal early on, if they didn't miss)
They're far enough behind the lines that Russia wouldn't know even if they had hit one.
I wouldn't be stunned if it turned out that one or two had been lost to counter-battery fire and the Ukies just kept it quiet.
Equally likely that they're just never stationary long enough in range of Russian arty to have ever been seriously threatened either.
>Ukies
>Russian arty
Yep this is vatnic
>this is vatnic
I say Ukies because I'm talking about decisions or actions taken by people.
I said Russian because I'm talking about the army's materiel.
An artillery piece isn't a vatnik or a mobik, neither are the officers who direct its fire.
no, it definitely isn't. Here, refer to this field guide:
American:
>I wouldn't be surprised if some had been lost
Russian:
>some have certainly been lost, but off camera
Indian:
>oh no no no no HIMARS troonysisters, did we lose?????? [picture of destroyed Toyota Tacoma]
>Russian: we have destroyed more himars than were actually sent to Ukraine
FTFY
>I wouldn't be stunned if it turned out that one or two had been lost to counter-battery fire and the Ukies just kept it quiet.
I really don't think Russia has anything that can hit them. None of their ground based missiles or artillery are accurate enough, air launched stuff takes way too long to launch. There is genuinely nothing they can do but seethe.
>None of their ground based missiles or artillery are accurate enough
Not as a first-hit kill but the thing about a CEP is that you get lucky sometimes.
Even if their counter-battery is just lobbing shells at where a HIMARS fired a minute ago, their response time is said to be about 90 seconds and have described as pretty accurate within that.
>anti-vax throw-away line as proof that proofs are not proofs
Yeah, that's a vatnik quote.
>Even if their counter-battery is just lobbing shells at where a HIMARS fired a minute ago
GMLRS has more than double the range of Russian arty though, doesn't it?
The Russians IL220 couterbattery radar only tracks semi-parabolic ballistic trajectories. Other than the M26 (which isn’t being used in Ukraine), nothing that a HIMARS fired has a ballistic trajectory. All the munitions have movable fins, they change and correct, they aren’t on a predictable flight path. No radar can accurately identify the POO for a HIMARS delivered munition (except the M26 rocket).
Only way Russia can target locate for counter battery is surveillance or triangulated noise detection
>nothing that a HIMARS fired has a ballistic trajectory
You can see this pretty clearly in the webm
posted. That little maneuver at the start is probably enough to confuse Russian counterbattery radar.
>o radar can accurately identify the POO for a HIMARS delivered munition
superpower by 2020?
Point Of Origin.
>Doesn't understand the joke
Gtfo tourist
No, it really means Point Of Origin. POO. Although "of" usually isn't worthy of a capitalization, so it would be PO.
jokes are supposed to be funny
no, you don't get it
it is funny
because it's like poop
>poo
>ass
>enter your guess here
Black person! is it Black person? please be Black person
>No radar can accurately identify the POO
You'd think given how many Indians they've got operating the shill farms they could spare a few for this
> their response time is said to be about 90 seconds
A HIMARS can go from the start of firing to rolling out in 32 seconds. That is part of the core function of the system.
Himars are gps guided. So they don't do a parabola because they steer where they go. The only want to counter them I'm not saying. Russians are idiots
They look like they're pretty study in construction. I assume they're meant to be able to take some near hits and not instantly shit the bed.
No it isn't.
>They look like they're pretty study in construction
The cabins are armoured. I still wouldn't want hot shrapnel going through the rocket though, no idea whether the rocket crate is armoured better than a TOS-1.
>I still wouldn't want hot shrapnel going through the rocket though, no idea whether the rocket crate is armoured better than a TOS-1.
If they get hit, they deflagrate at most, as they were designed to be insensitive to uncontrolled detonation. The US is even kind enough to test this, prove it works, and release it to the public to insure them that it works as intended.
>If they get hit, they deflagrate at most, as they were designed to be insensitive to uncontrolled detonation
Thanks, that's pretty impressive.
At 1:05 if anyone doesn't want to watch the whole thing.
The link should be timestamped @1m04s to go straight to the insensitive munitions testing.
It is but PrepHole doesn't handle the timestamp in its embedding.
Works for me, though, I have PrepHole X.
>40 foot drop test
Boring.
>It tilts then falls over.
Disregard that now that's the good stuff right there.
Nah. You have to understand how fricked the Russian killchain is. The stuff they have that is both long ranged and accurate enough to potentially kill one counterbattery requires several levels of authorization to fire. HIMARS can move in just a few minutes after firing. Using this ISIS-American tactic pretty much guarantees Russia cannot react fast enough to destroy a properly operated system. And I strongly suspect US soldiers were the ones operating them when they were first introduced into the conflict.
>And I strongly suspect US soldiers were the ones operating them when they were first introduced into the conflict.
I highly doubt it.
>highly-trained american button mashers are required to operate the beast
>implying the officers aren't vatniks or some ziggers are respectable
You anons may or may not be a neutrolers but the only reason why russia could not kill any of them can ONLY be explained by the western technological superiority. When you don't phrase that way it makes you look uncomfortable with the idea of superiority
The issue would rather be math. Consider a HIMARS firing from what one would consider normal, ~30% of its range behind FLOT (this is no military super secret). In case of what is publicly known ranges for M30, that would be ~25km. Let’s assume 2 km of no man’s land. Let’s further assume that the Russians are using 9M526 for counter battery fire. Their Smerch/Tornado-S would sit 27 km behind their FLOT, making the minimal engagement distance for CB 54 km. Realistically, it would rather be in the 70-80 km range, but let’s just assume minimum distance. Let’s say the immediately pick up the launch and can generate and transmit a firing solution to the launchers in 90 sec. Then the missiles would still need to travel 54 km, which would take them another 60 sec minimum. So, assuming this rather fast response, they would still need 2.5 minutes after picking up enemy fire to put first bomblets in the vicinity of the firing position. Real response times are probably a multiple of that, in excess of 10 minutes, which would still be ridiculously quick. How far from the firing position can a HIMARS be 2.5 min after firing the first missile of the salvo? Odds are it’s not even in the same gridsquare.
Counter battery doesn't work on a quasi-ballistic missile, which GMLRS and ATACMS are.
It would if you wouldn’t move the launcher after firing. But as sketched above, moving the launcher after firing and picking good firing positions makes it practically impossible. The only practical way of destroying them is to spot them while resting and blowing them up right then. Which would be one of the reasons you don’t park them anywhere near the frontline. You also wouldn’t drive into standard tube range. It’s not rocket science.
>It would if you wouldn’t move the launcher after firing.
How is the radar accounting for the non-ballistic flight path of the GMLRS when that variable is almost infinite? The possible launch location is going to be a huge grid with a low confidence level. Which isn't very useful.
>it’s not rocket science
It literally is tho lmao
>And I strongly suspect US soldiers were the ones operating them
eternal arrogance.
>And I strongly suspect US soldiers were the ones operating them
This is why Russia is losing btw, instead facing reality they invent secret anglo-saxons who's responsible for their failures
The only involvement you need on the US side is sat recon and other ways of identifying targets, which the US has been pretty open about providing to Ukraine, but the idea you need an American to drive it and press the "frick someone's day" button is hilarious.
>HIMARS can move in just a few minutes after firing. Using this ISIS-American tactic [...]
>ISIS-American tactic
Literally WTF. Have we at long last hit the point where the pro-Russia shills are reduced to b***hing that "not sticking around for counterbattery fire is cheating"?
>And I strongly suspect US soldiers were the ones operating them
picrel
>he forgot about the shipping containers
>he forgot about the logging truck
>he forgot about the HIMARS on the third floor
i forgot about the himars on the third floor
lmao fricking russians
Exactly. A combination of being far enough from the frontline and moving immediately after firing had made it very difficult for vathomies to destroy Himars.
Destroying long range artillery systems without air superiority is - as expected - very difficult. Intercepting himars rockets would be more effective, and Russians have been destroying some rockets according to RUSI.
It wouldn't matter even if they did. The US has a ton in storage, they'd instantly replace it. The reason they've not sent more is ammo bottleneck, giving them 100 doesn't matter if they can't fire.
That's why I'm hoping for ATCAMS.
exactly, the trucks themselves? they are cheap. It's a much bigger win for russians to shoot down a volley then to destroy the truck after it launched them. In that regards, ruskies have some success, so to be fair to them, it's not *that* bad. In time however, they will lose just by being attacked by HIMARS, even if they down half of the rockets. Ukies will just run out of targets
>exactly, the trucks themselves? they are cheap.
They're $5 million compared to $120,000/GMLRS, along with being much harder to build than the missile, and taking longer to build. If Russia could target one, they would.
>It's a much bigger win for russians to shoot down a volley then to destroy the truck after it launched them.
No it's not. Especially when that truck is going to be launching missiles at you again very soon. Sounds like cope.
>In that regards, ruskies have some success
Can I see Russian SAM/AA shooting down GMLRS?
>They're $5 million compared to $120,000/GMLRS
The trucks are much cheaper than that because they are not brand new and devalue faster than the ammo they are shooting (see pentagon budget woopsies)
I don't care much for israeli accounting. If you have to replace the HIMARS - sans missiles, it will cost you ~$5 million. I'm not talking about how much it's worth now, after years of use/setting in a depot, as that has no bearing on replacement cost, or the longer timeline on when that replacement you ordered can be built, tested, and fielded. That timeline is much longer, and more disruptive, than just shooting down the GMLRS one by one. Hitting a HIMARS itself would be smart, not only tactically, but propagandistically. If Russia could hit a HIMARS they would've by now. They have zero clue how to deal with it as a threat. So far, the only thing that's happened to HIMARS is more countries ordering it, or putting in requests to buy them.
>We will never see 100+ HIMARS and M700s showering the Russian lines daily with MLRS
Frick this pussy-ass administration
>The reason they've not sent more is ammo bottleneck
The US had 50,000 GLMRS in inventory, not counting allies. There is no bottleneck on GMLRS inventory.
>giving them 100 doesn't matter if they can't fire.
They lack the personnel, facilities, and targets to actually use 100 HIMARS.
>That's why I'm hoping for ATCAMS.
The US has far less ATACMS in its inventory to give Ukraine, and the older motors are allotted to the Pathfinder Zombie, and Black Dagger Zombie test missiles to represent TBM/SRBM threats for US/NATO missile defense tests. If the US does decide to give them ATACMS, it won't be many. I don't know about other countries stocks, and how they play to use them.
> There is no bottleneck on GMLRS inventory
There is a reserve of GMLRS earmarked for China, so unlike some other stuff like stingers the US will prioritize maintaining that stockpile vs just giving it all to Ukraine.
I would not expect JASSM being given out like SCALP because JASSM is already identified as a key munition that the US is already short of.
>"Did they FINALLY get one HIMARS?"
>"Oh the tires fell off and it got bombed after a whole week? Very unfortunate. The crew all alright? Great."
>"Don't worry, the 12 replacements are already there, just need to drive em out."
While /k/ get spammed with a dozen threads a day with the grainy picture of an empty himars.
may we see a recorded loss then
They've been covered up by Dr Fauci
Himars, not vaccines you damned bot.
> 0 recorded losses in a year
By shelling every square meter of Ukranian soil, the Russians will eventually hit one
Only if they never move.
Bet they are kicking themselves now for being so lose with the trigger back then.
>https://twitter.com/Azovsouth/status/1676311799593857024
WEBM.
What did God do to piss off Ukraine?
He hasn't exterminated the vatnik menace yet
Aren't those fumes clouds toxic and carcinogenic?
>Aren't those fumes clouds toxic and carcinogenic?
Probably, basically all rocket exhaust is.
You're supposed to hold your breath when firing Javelins even.
One reason for the sealed cabin and why when you see a crew member in a launch video, they're well away from the truck (also not wanting to get cooked I suppose).
we should send them more of these
Several more are already earmarked but USA refused to send any from existing stock so they have to be built from scratch. They will be ready around 2025-2026 assuming nothing else happens in the meantime (such as war with China). However I do believe the plan was these additional HIMARS being used to form the new military for Ukraine post end of war. But this war could go on for decades at this rate.
>They will be ready around 2025-2026
Lol, idiots actually believe this.
>But this war could go on for decades at this rate.
LMAO, absolutely braindead subhumans actually believe this. Another year or two like that last one and Russia will cease to exist as a functioning nation.
Proof?
You know, the uneven spacing of the terrible machine translations really gives these cope posts a certain je ne sais quoi
The empty space is for the reader to have a laugh before returning to reading
>https://twitter.com/Azovsouth/status/1676311799593857024
Stop posting Twatter links you Black folk, that shit is basically unusable now, webm of gtfo.
https://medium.com/@aviwolicki/how-to-view-twitter-posts-and-profiles-without-an-account-99855c8db48f
HATO shills will get really quiet after this one.
Scaled it up so you can really see the detail.
You bastard, that's my screenshot.
But here's another for you.
>But here's another for you.
Thanks, this should help clear things up a little.
I've enhanced the image.
Here's the result.
what's a HIMARS installation? is the tuvan moron a fricking moron? can he talk like a human being?
nafotrannies mock, but many himars have been worked on)) the bear wakes
I AM OF DEMORALIZED! I john oklahoma of ohio oblast will now lay vote on peacekeeper trump who will off make gooder use on tax money and the special military operation in 24 hours
How did they manage to wave the russian flag right before a destroyed HIMARS?
The whole thing seems fishy to me, I can tell because of some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shoops in my time.
I still can’t believe they haven’t tried to zerg one with jets
It's just a fricking truck with GPS GUIDED ROCKETS GOD-DAMNED RUSSIANS ITS NOT EVEN C LEVEL TOYS. COME ON. I WANT TO SEE AT LEAST DEPLETED URANIUM CLUSTER ATACMS. HURRY UP BIDEN
Remember how russia once spotted himars launching their missiles and russian counter-batter fire was off by couple of klicks
Someone once told me that the soviets usually have good ideas and the US has enough money to perfect those ideas. That someone was me. I said it to myself infront of the mirror this morning after my 15 minute scream session.
Did anyone here predict that Himars would turn out to be the ultimate NATO wunderwaffe in this conflict?
No, but then the vast majority of people thought Russia would achieve SEAD with it's overwhelming air and missile power. These things would be food against an enemy with air control.
Could it be??????
>Turns out the russians managed to capture a HIMARS
>They destroy it in an actual smoking accident
I notice the "HIMARS destroyed!" shit has quietly gone away like trying to pass off strikes as smoking accidents.
The number of Russian claims of new destroyed HIMARS has gone down so posting about it faded.
The big impressive ammo dump strikes also went down as the availability of targets diminished along with the Russians coping about it. So posts joking about smoking accidents also went away.
Jokes run their course and those ones have for the most part.
Nah, these videos are released weeks after the recording
Yeah, you tell them NAFO troons, Zister!
But why each of the piggers crippling defeats happen closer and closer to russian border?
you guys are clearly inorganic and it shows
> weapon platform on a weapon board
> inorganic
🙁
Soon....
You'd think with drones they would get one at least.
Gotta wonder how the crews will be treated after the war with their massive killcounts. Will they be guys who never have to buy their own drinks or will they have to hide their identities because Russians will never let that shit go?
You would think one would be destroyed by bad luck