Do I need a carry permit to take a rifle with me on long hikes?
Also what rifle is best for hike-carry? Or should I get a classy over-under shotty.
Hiking Rifle
Do I need a carry permit to take a rifle with me on long hikes?
Also what rifle is best for hike-carry? Or should I get a classy over-under shotty.
Shotgun with slugs is what you want if you're worried about self-defense.
frick these guys OP get a 13.7 Jakyl and a 40L internal frame
bonus points: suppressor and nightvis scope
You need a concealed carry permit to open carry any rifle along with a knife anywhere also you can't carry a rifle with more than 5 rounds in the clip at any time in the us source: I'm a lawyer
I carry a 10.5" AR.
My state doesn't require a permit to open carry a rifle or pistol. Thanks for being a shit lawyer.
You can clip deez nuts, mr lawyer
We don't know where you live, bud
I'm in the USA.
It depends on where you are in the US. These things vary from state-to-state
Most states let you hunt coyotes and/or crows year round, check yours and if you can get a hunting license.
Depends on country or state, US states were intended to be different countries so you'd have to specify state.
I've lugged a rifle along on hikes and it gets old after the first half mile. People stare at you and judge you too. I carry a 10mm handgun covered by my shirt now. Sufficient for bears if you can calmly get proper shot placement.
I'm in New York. Would a Glock 9 be enough for black bears? We don't get grizzlies around here.
If you're in New York the answer is no, you can't carry anything.
>I'm in New York.
>omg black bears do I need 50bmg
ffs.
1. Yeah, anything you know how to use over 22/32 is fine for bear defense. 9mm is fine. 380 is fine. 10mm is fine. 44mag is fine. That you know how to use. Which leads to
>new york
>asking about needing permits
2. Uh, do you actually own any guns right now OP? Like at all? Let alone have practiced.
No you frickers I don't have a gun that's why I'm asking what's the best to get for hiking.
yeah
>best gun for hiking
honestly speaking that's a question with a lot of good answers, and really it depends on your specific situation. given yours, any decent handgun in anything from 9x19 to .44 magnum with proper ammunition and a good deal of practice should be fine. really so long as your gun is good enough for you, it doesn't matter so much if you have a 1911 or a glock 20 or a 92fs, the most important part is practicing with your firearm to the point that you can reliably hit what you aim at (up to a point - .22LR isn't going to cut it for bear defense for example).
you should also take into account things *around* firearm use - how to avoid getting into those situations where you really have to use one to protect your life or property. this can be anything from "don't go walking alone in the bad part of town" to "make sure you know how to properly interact with wild animals" (there's some overlap here).
there's a guy on youtube who has a load of really good informational videos on all kinds of topics like this, and quite a few on choice of firearm for any given application. very reasonable and level-headed guy, doesn't shill things, very grounded. here's the link to his channel if you're interested (i'll almost certainly get flak from people who didn't like his "rebuttal" video but eh): https://www.youtube.com/@PaulHarrell
Depends on your state, type of park, and the parks regulations.
State forests are my go to for larping but check all local laws and regulations before going out.
>new York
Don't even bother
Shithole israelite run states require a lot of research to figure out the laws, which I'm not gonna do for you. Just quiet carry a handgun. Black bears aren't even a threat, they're big raccoons. I carry more for people and their poorly behaved Black persondogs.
>Would a Glock 9 be enough for black bears?
Bro, a shouting loudly is enough for black bears.
My wife is 5'7" and 115lbs, and she chased a black bear up a tree last time we went camping. You don't need a gun for them.
If it's a problem bear (or rabid, but that's INSANELY rare, even by already rare standards), yeah I'd want a gun. Of course you're very unlikely to encounter problem bears out in the middle of nowhere precisely because they only become that way due to moron dipshit people in the first place, but they're around.
But even vs grizzly bears everything 380 or bigger works fine. OP being in an anti-freedom state is the bigger challenge he should have spend 15 seconds doing a search on first.
How old are you moron
Old enough for your mom.
As if you could afford a porcelain gun
Nah man you need a Glock 7
>afraid of black bears
literally touch grass
>New York
Oh, I'd just assume anything that isn't a single shot BB gun is illegal to hike out in the woods with then. Just move to New Hampshire so you can pay taxes to a state government that doesn't hate your guts (as much).
>Would a Glock 9
In what Caliber? 9mm would just piss it off and then the bear would eat you, 10mm would be better of course and your best option if you somehow run into a black bear that doesn't just run away from you would be a Super Redhawk Alaskan chambered in whatever stupid expensive round you want because they're all alright.
Just buy bear spray dude.
There is no model "9" in Glock's lineup
>what are the laws on carry
100% completely state dependent. You will need to look that up. In my state there are zero permits of any kind for carry, but you definitely need a permit for any hunting.
>Also what rifle is best for hike-carry?
As well as state, you mention nothing of your purpose here. Like, why a rifle at all, vs a handgun if it's just about bears?
That said, the default answer is: SOMETHING LIGHT AND SMALL DUH. Which I'd expect you to know if you actually did any real hiking ever. Every pound matters in most cases.
Seriously wtf were you thinking with this thread? We're going to be reading about you dying of exposure because you blindly followed GPS, ignored weather, and had larp gear later this year aren't we?
Chill bro I just wanna hike in the Adirondacks and not get killed by a bear.
Hit it with a stick you stupid fricking flat lander homosexual. You're not going to die to a black bear in the Adirondacks. You're going to die of a bunch of other stuff instead, like trying to to take an ebin instagay selfie and stepping off the back of a cliff. THEN a black bear will eat your remains.
just drop a gallon of female bear piss in the rei parking lot at the trailhead before setting out, it's what i always do
Uh, how do you make a female bear piss?
I’m just curious on what I’m doing wrong.
Well, first you need to seduce a female bear...
I’ve been using a Canadian best seller as a blueprint. However it’s a male bear.
How does one seduce the female bear?
A lot of lube and courage
Simple, find a male bear and beat him up to display your raw masculinity and superior human genes, bear hoes love that shit
What's the perfect diet and workout routine to achieve this?
>inb4 go to PrepHole
Arms are a form of arms.
SS+GOMAD
you don't need a permit for weapons in the USA
>SHALL NOT
I carry my G3 copy whenever I'm innadesert. Large open spaces where I'm at, so I prefer the extra range a big .308 gun gets me. Some years ago, a crazy dude in my area was taking long range potshots at hikers.
was it you
yes
>Also what rifle is best for hike-carry?
Lever actions and the M16A1, they're super lightweight
The absolute GOAT is M1 Carbine.
Don't go on long hikes with a rifle, that's several pounds of unnecessary weight. If you absolutely must, carry a short (not snub) revolver.
Depends on your plans.
Make sure to flag other hikers once they come into view, an armed society is a polite society. They will appreciate your candor
Another fun thing to do that people will appreciate is setting up a "toll booth" and only letting "based redpillers" pass if they answer some questions at gunpoint
>Also what rifle is best for hike-carry? Or should I get a classy over-under shotty.
that depends
>grizzly bear or moose country
.45-70G lever gun, .308WIN rifle, M1 Garand
>wolf/yote/wild porker country
AR-15 variant
>no danger of wolves/yotes/hogs/bears/moose (mid-atlantic, southeast, etc.)
don't bring a rifle, you'd obviously be larping and you'll hate your life because it's humid as frick and hilly
just bring a 9mm plastic fantastic or a .38 with snakeshot if you're really worried about cottonmouths or copperheads
but you're not going to see a copperhead before it bites you so don't be a doofus and just bring something that allows you to call people.
OP is a gayget, pic related. Doesn't understand that every ounce is important when hiking long distance. Get some bear mace and don't act like a gayget and the bears will leave you alone. Honestly this shit is so tiring.
didn't he get eaten alive?
Treadwell AND his weirdo gf got gobbled up by that very bear
>OP is a gayget, pic related. Doesn't understand that every ounce is important when hiking long distance.
Correct. Idea you'd ever bring a fricking rifle, even the lightest one, for defense is moronic and shows OP doesn't hike.
>Get some bear mace and don't act like a gayget and the bears will leave you alone.
It's rare but in the recorded fatal bear attacks last few decades a lot of people have absolutely been minding their own business. And a compact pistol isn't any heavier then bear mace, in fact can be lighter, plus no leak risk. I bring a handgun if it's not a pretty extreme expedition. There's a lot more then a few ounce weight savings just in modern gear then when I did my first multi-week expeditions in the 90s, where I had cheap tarp, heavy sleeping bags and mats, cheap used heavy ass pack+frame, and so on for example. Granted I'm not as young either.
Depends on who owns the trail you are walking on. National Parks, forget about it. Too many asiatics and tourists from the city who will shit bricks if they even see you in camo. BLM/NF land, do what you want. State parks can vary on the state and time of year.
>National Parks, forget about it
FWIW:
>54 U.S.C. 104906: In areas administered by the National Park Service, an individual can possess a firearm if that individual is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing the firearm and if the possession of the firearm complies with the laws of the state where the park area is located.
Though keep in mind a lot of NPs cross state lines, so you need to pay attention to that. As a practical matter, if you're on any sort of serious hike reactions don't matter because nobody can do shit for hours, rangers and police aren't fricking hunting around in the middle of nowhere for ages because some terrified tourist calls them and says
>"he was carrying a gun! like in a holster on his side!! he SMILED at us as he walked by!!!!!!!!"
>Too many asiatics and tourists from the city who will shit bricks if they even see you in camo
This is a bonus.
Of course in NY lmao lol even.
Also park land isn't the same as federal buildings. By default you can never carry in there, so pay attention to that because it includes everything, visitor centers, ranger stations etc.
I use a heart AR7 that I gutted and changed every single thing on. Then I pair it with a can of mace
My autism grants me the power to huck a 60L ex-bongland service IRR pack and a FAL so if you're also mentally challenged that could be good
10mm semi auto or 357 revolver.
A light rifle with a folding stock and smaller magazine works too.
I carry a Mark V ultra lightweight in .308, no need to worry about bears or Black folk.
It never hurts to have a carry permit even if the state doesn't require one, but whether you actually need one or not depends on the states you plan to hike in. Choice of firearm also depends on what you might encounter. In the eastern part of the US, you would be fine with something low powered. If you're hiking in the Rockies, you should have something that could take down a charging bear or moose. You might also consider other people innawoods. If you're hiking in areas with leftists, they'll be a lot more comfortable around you if your rifle is something fuddish rather than a black AR (if you want an AR, slap some wood furniture on it).