>here's how to make a work bench with $200 worth of wood
>doesn't factor in the thousands of dollars of tools and all the specialty equipment they use
>always shills his plans
Why does EVERY youtube video on this topic follow this format?
>here's how to make a work bench with $200 worth of wood
>Why does this free knowledge always seem to have a reason to sell me something
Yeah I hate it when I look up a recipe and they just ASSUME I own a stove, microwave, fridge, and all these other things adding up to thousands of dollars
Not at all the same thing
Why would someone with a garage full of wood working tools needs to find a video showing them how to make a workbench
Yeah true, why would someone with a garage full of woodworking tools look up videos on how to make things out of wood
someone with a garage full of woodworking tools would already have a workbench
And maybe now they want to build one
Perhaps they'd want to build one for someone else. Perhaps the other person is offering something of value in exchange for such a product.
>contractors would already take everything out of their truck every day
Use a friends or family members garage to make a workbench for yourself.
One regular theme I see is improving your workshop to have a better bench.
You have a point there, and there should be workbench videos that assume you have nothing, or an axe, or a hand saw, or a circular saw, or a chop saw, or a table saw, etc.
But you are wrong if you think someone with access to tools is not interested in the videos that bother you.
>Hi everyone, here's how to make a workbench using $200 of wood and your bare hands
I mean I'd watch the video
paul sellers did one where the only tools he used were a plane, a chisel, a saw, and some clamps. and in a different video he built his own plane, including the blade
you can get a saw, chisel, and clamps at the dollar store
> you can get a saw, chisel, and clamps at the dollar store
Lol no you cant.
Maybe it's because anyone who doesn't have tools already knows how to lay some 2x6s across sawhorses and call it a day.
because there's different ways of getting the same end result with different, cheaper tools?
even if you're making a butcher block bench all you need is a couple pipe clamps, a bottle of glue, and a handsaw for a grand total of like $50
the logic of people in this thread
>I'm going to spend thousands of dollars on a planer, table saw, tons of clamps, glue and THEN look at videos with an entry level target audience with a budget since I don't know how to use these investments yet
Yeah why would someone with new tools watch an entry-level video
Not that anon but, yeah totally. It’s completely normal for the average person to wake up one day and go buy literally thousands of dollars worth of tools they have no experience with in an economy where a carton of eggs is ten dollars.
You can be a pedantic homosexual all you want for the sake of trolling but we both know that most people who own all these tools have acquired them over time along with the skills to use them.
The only power tool I've ever bought with prior experience using one is a drill.
>When you can't comprehend the nature of how a powered device that rotates functions
It fricking spins. Sometimes the opposite way. Sometimes both at the same time.
It's always funny when the guy whips out a Festool Domino or does everything with thousands worth of Incra and Woodpeckers tools kek
This Old House busts out about 3 different festools for things I'd do with a skilsaw and a brad nailer.
pretty much every expensive tool can be replaced with a simple, cheap solution
>planer
use a hand plane or pay a shop for 30 minutes of time to use theirs
>table saw
buy a track or build a jig for your skilsaw
>tons of clamps
use a 2x4 as a caul so you need less clamps (and bessy pipe clamp ends are only $20/pair, knockoffs are cheaper)
>festool domino
there's a jig that converts a normal tiny trim router into a domino cutter, or just drill and use dowels
obviously youtubers have decked out shops with nice tools, but you don't need any of that to get started
it'll just take a bit more time and maybe come out a tiny bit worse
OP would know that if he wasn't a wiener gargling homosexual
>pretty much every expensive tool can be replaced with a simple, cheap solution
>planer
>use a hand plane or pay a shop for 30 minutes of time to use theirs
>table saw
>buy a track or build a jig for your skilsaw
>tons of clamps
>use a 2x4 as a caul so you need less clamps (and bessy pipe clamp ends are only $20/pair, knockoffs are cheaper)
>festool domino
>there's a jig that converts a normal tiny trim router into a domino cutter, or just drill and use dowels
>
>obviously youtubers have decked out shops with nice tools, but you don't need any of that to get started
>it'll just take a bit more time and maybe come out a tiny bit worse
To do this you need to know your tools and how to use them, and what can substitute what. In this consuming mindset people who don't know just buy the shilled tools: if is good for him then it must be good for me.
Buiscuit joiners are also perfectly fine if what you need is an easy way to make boards co-planar with the same "draw one mark across both, plunge a tool once on each piece" style of fitting.
> EVERY
Krueger has a whole series to build stuff with under $100 in tools. There are more out there but I don’t watch enough YT to remember them. The ‘very professional’ woodworking celebs with big channels, they have the big tools to shill so they use them in the videos.
If you want to learn how to build a bench with just a hand saw and glue then there’s usually someone who shows it, but it’s a random guy with a 240p camera, 300 views and a Finnish accent so they aren’t as easy to find
Honestly if you just need a bench and dont have tools then the most simple of bench builds can be done with dimensional lumber, a hand saw, a square, and some screws/drill. No planing or complicated joinery is necessary for a simple work bench.
Judging by the youtube search results OP is referring to a 2x4 butcher block style bench, which is frankly idiotic.
if you make a frame with 12" on center 2x4, some blocking and a sheet of 7/16" ply it'll hold up just fine and you won't get a hernia trying to wheel it around
yeah I'm going to agree with this. my first work bench was a leftover sheet of 3/8" plywood I screwed a vertical 2x4 on each corner to make legs. and it did okay for a while. I made revisions as I worked and discovered changes needed, made a frame to set the sheet on for more rigidity, made cross bracing between the legs, eventually scrapped the whole thing and reused its pieces then built a proper bench following a planned build but at that point I DID have lots of expensive tools to use. if all you own is a fricking electric drill and a handsaw and are asking "how do i wood" something stupid simple will work for you while you're learning
Don't consider yourself a man if you don't own tools.
I have a shitton of tools, just no machines to cut wood
Only "specialty equipment" you might really need for wood is a track saw, you can get one of the best, pro-tier ones from Makita for $300. But if you're doing a one-off project, you can still get a shop to cut whatever wood you need to size.
>planer
>miter saw
Manual and cheap electric versions are easy to find, don't cost much at all.
>meme festool shit
Never ever need it for anything.
>Only "specialty equipment" you might really need for wood is a track saw,
Frick that, get one of those clamp guide things and use a normal circ saw running along the fence. Or hell even clamp a straight board to it and run your fence along that.
Best thing about the track saw is the dust collection (considering we're cutting mdf and ply) and the time saving with the track. That's why I bought one.
You can set up a multi function table and make repeatable cuts. It just requires precision dog holes and some perfectly square fencing
That's really the thing, that kind of hack is great for starting out, but as you progress the better tools do the same job way easier. a circular saw and straight edge do the job, but it's way faster to set a tracksaw up. There's a dozen ways to get good alignment, but a Domino is far faster and easier. You can get your long board breakdown done with a hand, jig, or circular saw, but a good miter saw will be a lot faster, especially if mounted in a station with stop blocks. You can get a rough sawn board milled to S4S with just a planer with sled and a table saw with a tapering sled, but it goes way faster if you have a jointer to flatten and square the first face and edge. You can resaw with a table saw or recip saw, but it'll be way faster and easier in a good bandsaw.
You're welcome.
Woodworkers are psychos that will justify spending $10k+ on tools to occasionally build rickety furniture worth nothing. I would recommend only building structural things you need because otherwise youll turn into one of them
I started down this path and realized it's kind of ridiculous. I don't have skills to make a decent piece of furniture so I was spending hundreds of dollars to make a wooden box i could buy for $10 at hobby lobby.
It still appeals to me but I try to stick to making practical stuff like garage shelves and learning home diy carpentry.
yeah i like to keep a good balance between "fine" woodworking and garbage like
this moron slaps together with screws and OSB.
My favorite construction method for shelves and benches is 15ga nails and glue. Its an extremely strong fit if you do it right and it doesnt split 2x4s like deck screws or framing nails do. Ive got shelves holding 500lb+ built like that
I also use a lot of through dowels because its easy and gives a lot of strength and wont loosen up on you like screws
I needed a bench that werks and didn’t want to buy $60+ sheets of covid-priced plywood.
I’m no autist woodworker but I could’ve gone nicer quality if it wasn’t a bench that is covered in paint and grease and bullshit,
Black person I shit out better quality benches when I was a sleep-deprived university student with no money and two power tools. Three if you count your mom's dildo. Just buy a piece of MDF and nail it to the top of your godawful OSB monstrosity so the rest of us can feel less embarrassed for you for frick's sake.
That shoe rack actually turned out bretty gud considering I don’t have the patience for fine woodworking. It was some goofy ass aged white stain, which seemed like super thin white paint. I think next wood project I’m going to grab a cheap $20 spray gun from HF for the polyurethane finish
>tfw I want to refinish all this oak furniture so bad but don’t want to sand it all
I was talking about your OSB workbench
Why would anyone buy OSB in the first place
Plywood is usually about the same price and it looks 3000% better and wont give you splinters just by looking at it
lets see them
Scrapped them years ago out of embarrassment.
>thousands of dollars of tools and all the specialty equipment they use
You can easily make a good workbench with just these to get you started
so youre just going to screw the thing together and hope for the best? Not even with an impact, just a shitty drill LMAO
Do you understand how screws work?
americans unironically believe nails are inherently better than screws for "shear strength"
>He thinks an impact is for nails
But for real that lots will be fine for screws. If you’re screwing in frick tonne of screws maybe invest in an impact but don’t over spend on tools and brands because some moron on an anime image board told you to
Nails are better in a lot of applications, general framing being one of them.
You sound like someone that has never even fired a gun in bump mode
And before you come up with some half-assed insult, I regularly send 10" 1/4" diameter screws into rough sawn timber, and have packed a whole roof of T&G with a hammer and nailgun in 2 hours
I know when to use screws, and when to use nails. I've even forged nails on an anvil just because it's cool. If you can't understand their respective strengths and weaknesses, you don't belong here
>so youre just going to screw the thing together and hope for the best? Not even with an impact, just a shitty drill LMAO
That's all anyone ever used for putting in screws until about 10-15 years ago when the cordless impacts really started taking off...
>hmmm why yes its 1998 i will now screw in lag bolts with a ryobi cordless drill
>same as my father before me
>basic b***h workbench made with 2x4s
>lagbots
they just used nails you pedantic n word
no one sat there and drove 3" deck screws with cordless drills all day because thats fricking moronic
>n word
Go back
>no one sat there and drove 3" deck screws with cordless drills all day because thats fricking moronic
https://youtube.com/shorts/AJD9uYzyOVQ?si=AII4XtOngKFMe2Yc
See
You could def make a workbench with that. Add a fricking tapemeasure and pencil and you’re good to go.
OP is moronic and watching tutorials for some autist master woodworker bench, and most people who are already autist woodworkers who want that type of bench are going to have a bunch of the tools.
Why the hell do you need a plane for a basic workbench?
I've gotten by with a shitty corded drill, orbital sander and circ saw. Now I have nicer tools but with those three you can do a lot and learn the basics before getting in to "craftsman" shit
>shitty corded
I'm a big proponent of corded being the first tools you should own doing solo work, for the sole fricking reason that it'll teach you to pay attention to what your dumb ass is doing or that cord will get ripped out/run over/wrapped around something. It'll also give you an appreciation of outlet placement.
drill is faster
if your hands aren't strong enough for the job, then impact is easier and worth it
doesn't really matter in many cases, strange thing to get butthurt about, grab what is closer unless you are driving a lot of screws
often it's not worth it to worry what is the optimal tool for the job
and since argument was about building shit without spending a lot of money, drill it's way better (you get two tools for the price of one since it drills too, duh)
Check out bushcraft knife only furniture tutorials. I assume you have a knife.
because they're running a business: content creation. high end tools probably help with creating faster and higher quality results. but i get your point, and there probably is a market for content creation aimed at the every man with hand tools or a reasonable mix of hand tools and power tools.
You would laugh at my workbench, but I made it with a piece of 3/4 plywood for the top, and 2x4s.
Make 4x4 legs from two 2x4s, cut to equal length at a comfortable height, box in at top for work surface and ~1ft off the ground for an extra shelf. I made the plans on a piece of paper the morning before I bought the materials. It's not pretty, but it works. I've made some shelves that way as well, simple to make and effective.
>Buy the plastic workbench corners at Menards/bLowe's/hoe depot
>Buy 1lb of 16 penny nails
>Buy the wood on the box
>Build workbench for $100 that's a b***h to take apart and wont come loose
Alternatively, just buy the $130 bench at Menards
>Not being able to build a work bench without someone else's plans
homie r u stoopid
You need a drill driver and saw.
Don't have a table saw for this one step that uses one? Look for a video called "how to rip 2x4 without table saw". No thickness planer? Borrow one (or bring your wood) or again, look for a video called "how to plane wood without a thickness planer". Etc. You are your own biggest obstacle to getting things done.
First bench should be a plywood or mdf top with 2x framing. The most important thing about a woodworking bench is that the top be flat.
I made a Nicholson and since I didn't have a jointer or planer, it was never flat and I ended up doing glueups on a quarter sheet of plywood and saw horses.
Also, where's the wwg? I want to get back into it now that the weather's cool.
>Also, where's the wwg? I want to get back into it now that the weather's cool.
I was going to make a new wwg thread but it said my license has expired.
is there a guide to the basic tools you should buy if you want to get into woodworking
preferably with expected price ranges so the whole list of the essentials comes down to $500 or less?
~$100 on a circular saw
~$50 on a jigsaw
~$50 on an orbital sander
$50-$100 on a drill
The rest on stuff to measure and clamps and consumables for above tools.
That’s basically where I’m at. Although you could save money on power tools and spend it on Japanese pull saws and old Stanley planes if you’re trying to go that amish route.
>jigsaw
i think you can usually avoid this and get by using rasps and a coping saw, they're handy but not usually a requirement
what about a router
what tool should i buy to compensate for the lack of a bandsaw
Routers are straight. I ended up buying one like a year ago because there was a full size Kobalt with the table for like $110, now I sort of want a compact guy for hanging doors and shit,
And what do you need a band saw for? Most dudes use those for metal pipes,
I’m not a woodworker tho
i want to build mechanisms with wood and cutting intricate shit seems less tiresome than a jigsaw and the guy on woodgears uses it all the time
it's a big investment though
Oh yeah you’re right, I forgot about the big stand up bandsaws like shop class in middle school. Scroll saws too. I’ve been seeing all portable band saws recently, and they make stands for some of the models, but the ones I’ve seen are more like a chop saw, I’m not sure about the stand up band saw stands for the cheaper electric portabands.
Those are thing things you should watch Faceberg Marketplace and such for. You might find a widow in Boca who is trying to clear out the dead husband’s workshop for fairly cheap. I got a bench grinder that way and almost walked out with a table saw.
I’m guessing table saw and miter saw come before bandsaw. But you can do that shit with a regular circular saw, however it’s harder to get accurate cuts. Also I hope you have space for all of the stuff.
I gotta keep reminding everybody, the black friday sales at Home Depot and Lowe’s start going up the last week of October. So if you want to buy anything new, wait for the sale. Like the $600-$650 DeWalt 12” sliding miter saw that everybody likes often drops down to $400 for the holidays or will be like $499 with a free stand. I got a free stand with my Ryobi 10” miter saw last year.
Oh and one more place for deals, the past year or two Lowe’s has been discontinuing a lot of their big shop equipment and nobody buys that shit from Lowe’s so the clearance deals sit around for you to scoop up. Somewhat recently they had some Porter Cable and I think Rockwell stuff like a PC drill press for ~50% off.
don't think i'll be getting it anytime soon but wonder what hand tool could i get that could do it's job to some limit
for example routers can cut grooves and curvy shit like wheels
Chisels or sanding I guess?
Don’t know why I’m replying, there’s so many autist woodworkers who love chisels and rasps and that shit but I don’t have the patience for it.
And wow, some of this stuff is cheaper than you would expect. Wen is sort of like a Black & Decker or Ryobi, like light hobbyist use, but at <$150 it wouldn’t be bad for small pieces of wood until you find a good used one a couple years down the line.
Forgot pic
Also a good rotary tool can do tons of little shit if you don’t have the real tools. I have a router attachment for my Dremel which I used for some tiny shit.
>And what do you need a band saw for? Most dudes use those for metal pipes,
Bandsaws are fantastic for:
Resawing boards
Precision curve cutting
Small parts cutting
Cutting materials that are dangerous to cut on a table saw like brass, aluminum, and steel
Yeah I’m moronic and was thinking about portable band saws like picrel, not the big wood shop saws
I do timber framing and we use one of these bad girls to do stuff like birds mouths, laps, curved decorative ends, etc.
Since a lot of our stock is 4" - 8" thick a flush trim router and template wouldn't work or would take forever and this thing chews through wood fast.
Is it sick? absolutely. Is it worth buying for $8k for someone who can't even make a bench? lol, lmao even
It's a workbench nor piece of furniture. Plus you are an amateur. Throw together a bench with some 2x4s and 3/4 ply. It will get you through a lot until you feel you need more. By then you will have the knowledge and tools to make a nicer one.
But ... how can you build a workbench without a workbench to build it on? Do they rent them out?
The floor is the biggest workbench of all
yeah man
you need money to make money
you need machines to build machines
it's insane
Here's pretty simple one built with minimal 2x framing and a door as a top. Could use ply for the top instead, maybe two layers of 3/4 ply to be beefy.
Can probably ignore the dowels and just use screws only.
https://woodgears.ca/workbench/
>Can probably ignore the dowels and just use screws only.
you will always be a Black person
pocket holes!
The gatekeeping on this is your lack of ability to think of how to make the same things work with tools you have or can afford.