He definitely has his charm and you can't deny he at least put his money where his mouth is. Faustian in a way.
At the end of the day, if we do feel a certain way about the likes of Richard Russell or that one penguin from Herzog's Encounters at the end of the world, why not McCandless as well? The more threads we have about how much of a moron he was, the more sympathetic towards him I get. Imagine dog-piling on Ikarus, swarthoid-tier behavior.
I like the way you say things anon. I think his embrace of transcendental ideals, a lot of which are ridiculed in our postmodern era (but let's not forget, even back then, Poe was making fun of them), and while I understand it's easy to criticize, it's like you said... there's something there. Rooted in a hope for things. A way out of the nut-busting gauntlet of a 9 to 5. Maybe not even as an example by which we should follow, but as a thing to look back on in times of stress, as one does a vacation. A sort of, "oh, that was a nice trip," but instead, "oh, well at least someone had some fun, got out from it all."
It rings truest when you're young. I'm past the age where I can really piss into the wind like that, but a part of me will always admire the carelessness of youth. Maybe carelessness isn't the right word. Maybe it's careful. Full of care. I flew to Ireland alone. Met a girl for a week and moved into her camper. Drove around in a van. Now it's cooled down a bit. The bright colors have blended to gray. My week consist of counting down from 5. This isn't to complain. Things are good, just different. It's easy to laugh at his extremism, to poke fun, but one has to expect the grandiosity of it all. After all, I've got work in the morning. Hell, might go crazy and get a smoothie beforehand.
he absolutely put his money where his mouth was. I think it was oddly noble to essentially commit suicide by nature. I always say I would never commit suicide, I was just disappear into nature. Leave all your problems back in civilization and either come out of the experience a new person or end up dead anyway
I'm the original creator of this basedjak kek. I named it busjak. this is the pinnacle of all of my PrepHole contributions over the years.
Why do people idolise a larper who died being a complete failure?
the ideals he lived by were admirable and the fact that he had the balls to execute on him. who the frick would venture into the alaskan wilderness with nothing but a 22 rifle and a bag of rice? his death was tragic and easily preventable, but that's not the point. his story imo is similar to those of solo-climbers like marc-andré leclerc, the 'grizzly man' timothy treadwell, the flat earther mike hughes that died launching his homemade rocket, or even someone like steve irwin as moronic as it sounds. what makes people like this so alluring is the fact that they died in the pursuit of the impossible. people that are truly like this are a dime a dozen. a modern, PrepHole equivalent of this archetype is lord miles, the bong that vacationed in afghanistan during the fall of kabul. stupid? yes. intriguing? also yes.
I keep meaning to buy the book. Or borrow it from the library. Is it any good?
do what normal people do and just find a pdf of it online moron. and objectively it's meh. mccandless himself is an interesting character and I guess the author is a decent writer, but watching a youtube video about him is just as good. it's a pretty short read though, but is it worth it memes aside? maybe. up to you really. upon reading it you'll probably relate to the guy a lot. I sure did. still kind of do. this doesn't negate the fact that he was an ultra mega moron though, but maybe that's the allure. a wienery naive 20 something going out into the world, grabbing it by the balls, and caring frick all about what others think. was he mentally ill? maybe, but I think he was just high off of finally being free to do whatever the frick he wanted. remember though that there are thousands of young men like mccandless who will never manage to get some israelite to write a book and then get another israelite to make a movie about them. mccandless is an archetype more than anything.
>I'm the original creator of this basedjak kek. I named it busjak. this is the pinnacle of all of my PrepHole contributions over the years.
i've seen a few memes I've made passed around on various boards. whenever i do it makes me smile then i realise that i need to stop using PrepHole so much
He just hit a long spell of bad luck. Still a cool guy, better to die living the life you want to live then be confined by the limited conceptions of people who call you a moron on PrepHole.
>calling making terrible and stupid choices with obvious outcomes "bad luck"
let be guess, you too have just so much "bad luck".
He could have been better prepared sure, thats why you don't see me out there, but still the river prevented his means of getting back, he misjudged that sure but you can't blame the guy for not knowing it would.
Let's pretend his passion was Nascar driving... Christopher McCandless sets off, from California in an old car he rebuilt himself (he replaced the fenders and painted it), on a trip to the Daytona 500. He only gets across the state line when he runs out of fuel because he forgot to fill it up. Instead of simply walking to the nearest gas station or flagging down help he decides to push his car over an embankment and set it on fire. He then proceeds to walk on foot to the nearest car lot (which happens to be in Mexico for some reason, mostly because he burned up his map in the car and he's been taking backroads.) He finds an old bicycle in a garbage dump and uses that. 288 KB PNG He finally gets to the car lot and buys a fixer-upper for $50. Before leaving the car lot he has to change a tire, which he replaces with the solid rubber donut. He buys fuel and heads off to the Daytona 500 again. Only he's heading deeper into Mexico and eventually ends up broken down in front of, "Autodromo Internacional de la Jolla" due to no water in the radiator. The engine block has seized up. Luckily, there's a race about to start. Christopher...er "Alexander Superspeeder", who changed his name, pays the $125 entry fee for the race. Unfortunately, Alexander Superspeeder doesn't have a race car. He does however have an old bicycle still. He uses the bicycle to race. He makes it only 3 laps before he is too tired to steer straight and veers off into a race car and is killed. Some israelite picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another israelite makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him. The End.
I do think the reason his story is so popular is because a lot of people felt the way he felt, his heart was in the right place he was just underprepared. Take the story as a cautionary tale and learn how you wanna live your live. Theres a lot of people who successfully do what he tried to do and even more who want to do it, at least he had the balls to commit to the life he wanted to live, that to me is all that really counts.
He was an overtly mentally ill man allowed to wander into danger and nature took its course, like a senile old lady allowed to wander off onto a freeway on a dark foggy night, maladaptive daydreamers wank to him because an artificial narrative was built around this tragedy to sell coomsoomer wankery.
Dude belonged in a group home.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>muh maladaptive blahblahblah
Opinion discarded
4 months ago
Anonymous
>REEEEEEEEEE!!!!11111
kek, go outside homosexual.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You will never be a woman. Now go back.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Who are you to say what’s “mal”-adaptive and who are you to deem what’s the correct adaption?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Modern industrial society is maladaptive you soap eating cuck. Enjoy your chains slave
4 months ago
Anonymous
Take your meds, frickBlack person.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Your on this board because you enjoy the outdoors right? Wouldn't you rather die in the wilderness then locked up in some hole because people want you to die on their terms? I mean, you gotta die sometimes, don't we all reserve the right to decide where that should be for ourselves?
4 months ago
Anonymous
he didn't die "on his own terms" he died horribly from preventable health conditions and ultimately from societies unwillingness properly manage its mentally infirm.
Stop romanticizing it because you want to jerk off to running away from the shit life you've made for yourself while doing nothing to actually improve it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Societal constructs are not to be mistaken for real existence, they are tools and can be used to achieve a certain end but they are not objective reality because the do not exist independent of human invention.
He absolutely died on his own terms because he chose a course of action that had those consequences, and as terrible as it was it beats the hell out of a life in the rat race saving up for retirement and dying having lived the same day over and over again in the names "Mentally Healthy" and "Mature".
There are dudes who live out in the woods and are no less fulfilled then someone who lives under the rule of industry, the only difference is they don't have a bunch of people who will agree with them and reinforce their neurotic illusion that their technological existence is objectively passable as "All that life is".
You advocacy of help for the "mentally ill" is nothing but a stagnate morality designed to euthanize the human spirit, when the reality is that the way of life you speak of is the very thing that causes so called mental illness.
>"Preventable health conditions."
Everything is a preventable health condition, but at a certain point you have to overcome that neurotic postponement of death and do something thats worthwhile to you. It's better to live a few years on an adventure that you chose then to die in some dead end job full of unsatisfied regrets.
If thats the life you've chosen brother then more power to you, you're completely justified in living it if it's meaningful to you. But that doesn't mean it is that way to other people. If you advocate experiential singularity of any kind in putting down people who can and do set out to live a different life then you're a total wienersucker.
To take responsibility for our existence we each stake our lives on a course of action with the wager of death, the greatest improvement is setting out to do something thats true to you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Pro tip: Don't bother arguing with authoritarian dickheads who think they know what's best for everybody in society. Also don't vote these types into any sort of political office.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>dying having lived the same day over and over again
Isn’t this inevitable though? Most people even in the ancient past ended up livinn the same day over and over agin most of the time. In society or not. Living off the land or not. Unless you have a crazy adventurerous life this’ll end up happening.
Unless your a hunter gatherer moving nomad/Arab nomad I guess but even then I bet all the days end up blending together with only the environment really changing.
4 months ago
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That might be true, but I think the distinction between discipline and repetition could account for this difference. Repetition is mindless and leads to no new variations, whereas discipline includes repetition but tends to result in new outcomes. From here its just a matter of choosing what repetition you want to abide by and disciplining yourself to reach the kinds of experiences you want to have in life.
Under no circumstances is it good to die starving, cold, and terrified.
Why would anyone want to die starving, sick, cold, and terrified at a young age?
Tell that to our ancestors, I mean statistically it's going to happen to a large portion of us no matter what we try to do to stop it, but if you ask me more people die terrified today then ever before because of how afraid we are of death. And don't get me wrong, it's healthy to have a fear of death, but to live in such fear of lifes consequences that you don't go out and live it is no life at all.
If you went back in time and told Chris the outcome of his life I don't think he would have changed his path, he just would have learned the things he needed to avoid those outcomes as best he could, and if he knew just a little more he might very well be out there today.
If the alternative to those conditions is Old, well fed, demented and wasting away in some nursing home, which end would you choose? A young death full of adventurous and full years, or an old death to tired from having done nothing for decades to want to carry on?
His death is a testament to all those who want to live that kind of life, because as he could have learned better or been better prepared, we can also learn from his story and be better prepared ourselves. Whatever you choose more power to you, I for one would prefer his death to being plugged into the medical system.
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4 months ago
Anonymous
>If the alternative to those conditions is Old, well fed, demented and wasting away in some nursing home, which end would you choose? A young death full of adventurous and full years, or an old death to tired from having done nothing for decades to want to carry on?
Fortunately these two aren’t the only alternatives. One can very well lead an adventurous and full life without being an imbecile about it and dying a terrible death at a young age.
I definitely want to live to an old age. However, if my mind or my body were to desert me, I’m sure I’d have the constitution to kill myself. I most certainly would not do that in an utterly miserable way, though.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Absolutely, there are always more alternative. But for those alternative to exist in the first place they are to be predicated on extreme examples such as Chris Mccandleless. For a lot of people they need some kind of media like this to break through to them so as to demonstrate these alternatives, because they're so plugged in that they won't even become aware of these testaments otherwise.
It's all relative, and so long as you're doing you thats all that matter; But it seems unproductive to not weigh the Pros of this mans existence with the Cons. His is a cautionary tale, and one that can be learned from just like any other, so it goes without saying that for better or worse his story inspired a lot of people to set out to live a different kind of life. Hell you can even say that because he was such a jackass the memory of his death sticks to peoples brains (You'know how many times I've talked about foraging wild food and people have mentioned his death like "Better watch out, you don't wanna end up like X").
Pros: Inspirational, bigger balls then 90% of Americans, seemed like a chill dude.
Cons: Underprepared and bit off more then he could chew, should have humbled himself a few more years to learn what he needed to accomplish what he set out to do.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Damn Ted I knew you were still alive
4 months ago
Anonymous
Too many words.
4 months ago
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kek, turn off the screen and go waddle outside homosexuals.
This is a discussion board, I'd prefer to galvanize somebody prepared to talk about ideas rather then the typical "Frick you adhom". and circle jerk of memes and so fourth; Don't get me wrong, there is a time and a place for that kind of thing but if your sole intention is to come to a discussion board and not try and have discussions then maybe twitter is more your speed pal(s).
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I think people have so much fear of their death nowadays compared to some mudfarmer in 999 AD is because we have less connection to nature and society at large. I remember growing up and some classmates were horrified learning where their dinner comes from, turned vegetarian and all that crap. Of course we dont grow up watching our siblings die from the plague, but we are so disconnected to everything and live in our own little bubbles of comfort that any small disruption has a disproportionate affect due to our lack of learned *coping*. There was a marked difference in the approach to death between my greatgrandfather who lived thru the depression and fought in ww2 and my father who, god bless him, was a sissified yuppie. I do believe that the zen homies had the right idea in that each day a man should set aside a few minutes to contemplate their death so we can *cope* better and lead a more fulfilling life.
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Disconnection from nature, or just that feeling of being trapped in general. Tech isn't bad but the extent to which we cling to it is unhealthy, contrarily anyone who clings to nature to their own detriment (Which is for them to determine) I'd also argue against them to pursue something they haven't tried. Things aren't so black and white, but you can definetly see today that we're so plugged into tech we don't see any other way of life, and we're quick to judge anyone who tries to pursue new lifestyles.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>galvanize
I'm all for some vocabulary variation but that one's a bit of a stretch
4 months ago
Anonymous
>shock or excite (someone) into taking action.
Action in conversation, and through conversation ideas that we can take into our real lives. Is it that much of a stretch or are you just trying to be a semantic dick?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Blessed pasta 🙂
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I think people have so much fear of their death nowadays compared to some mudfarmer in 999 AD is because we have less connection to nature and society at large. I remember growing up and some classmates were horrified learning where their dinner comes from, turned vegetarian and all that crap. Of course we dont grow up watching our siblings die from the plague, but we are so disconnected to everything and live in our own little bubbles of comfort that any small disruption has a disproportionate affect due to our lack of learned *coping*. There was a marked difference in the approach to death between my greatgrandfather who lived thru the depression and fought in ww2 and my father who, god bless him, was a sissified yuppie. I do believe that the zen homies had the right idea in that each day a man should set aside a few minutes to contemplate their death so we can *cope* better and lead a more fulfilling life.
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You have to go back.
You will never be a woman. Now go back.
Who are you to say what’s “mal”-adaptive and who are you to deem what’s the correct adaption?
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kek, turn off the screen and go waddle outside homosexuals.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I live outside half of the week by choice sissyboi
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This is a discussion board, I'd prefer to galvanize somebody prepared to talk about ideas rather then the typical "Frick you adhom". and circle jerk of memes and so fourth; Don't get me wrong, there is a time and a place for that kind of thing but if your sole intention is to come to a discussion board and not try and have discussions then maybe twitter is more your speed pal(s).
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Disconnection from nature, or just that feeling of being trapped in general. Tech isn't bad but the extent to which we cling to it is unhealthy, contrarily anyone who clings to nature to their own detriment (Which is for them to determine) I'd also argue against them to pursue something they haven't tried. Things aren't so black and white, but you can definetly see today that we're so plugged into tech we don't see any other way of life, and we're quick to judge anyone who tries to pursue new lifestyles.
I agree tech in and of itself isnt bad, its a damn blessing. Ive lived and worked with amish/mennonite and plain people types and, as much as i enjoy imagining myself as some 1800s homesteader or injun remover cowboy, living like that is a huge PITA. Its doable, but requires a lot of sacrifice and grit, especially if you frick up (you will frick up everything at least once). I feel like i grew up at the best time to be able to deal with the weird modern world. I got to jack off to tomb raider but also go climb trees and bag squirrels with my bros. A big part is the breakdown of social cohesion lately, and the unexpected repercussions of the money-grab mindset of early social media. It will be interesting to see if the pendulum swings back the other way in the next few decades as the old guard dies off and more young people grow into positions of authority in our society.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not so sure it's ever been a generational issue, after all every generation tries to overcome their forebears, and in so doing they tend to create new forms of oppression that they will inflict upon their descendants and so fourth. But on an individual level we can strive to just do our thing, maybe then the newgaurd will take notice and join in.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>amish/mennonite
They dont actually live like that. They're "off grid" in the sense that they get electricity from a generator. Its all total bullshit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I know.
4 months ago
Anonymous
PA here. The amish cheat more than a 27-year-old roastie at a bachelorette party. I've seen them take vans to Sheetz and get MTOs off of the touch-screen kiosks before going to build shit with scissor lifts and power tools. They can do whatever they want as long as their bishop says jeebus is okay with it.
4 months ago
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My moms landlord in ky was mennonite. Was shocking to teenage me to move her in and see the boys working on the electrical wiring. What really cemented my opinion of them was seeing how they treat their animals, especially the puppy mills
3 months ago
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S O V L
4 months ago
Anonymous
>ultimately from societies unwillingness properly manage its mentally infirm.
I'm with you except for this. Totally irrelevant in this case.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He was not mentally ill. He graduated from a very good college before he left for his journey across America, Mexico and back to America to Alaska. Everyone he met liked him and he was eccentric definitely not crazy. If you read Into The Wild you'd have a much better understanding of him. His dad worked for NASA and contracted for satellite companies so I assume Chris was pretty intelligent himself.
4 months ago
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Why would anyone want to die starving, sick, cold, and terrified at a young age?
3 months ago
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Almost everything I do while PrepHole I do with the specific intention of not dying in the wilderness.
4 months ago
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You have to go back.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You will never be a woman. Now go back.
Based. Who tf let these redditors on our board?
4 months ago
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You will never be a woman. Now go back.
Who are you to say what’s “mal”-adaptive and who are you to deem what’s the correct adaption?
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Based. Who tf let these redditors on our board?
If this triggers you, you are nu-out. You will always be a coof tourist. You won't ever actually fit in here. The way you type, your homosexual mannerisms, will always out you as redditor castoffs. Go back.
a lot of schizophrenic people start hearing voices and become suicidal
its possible he wanted to die and just didn't want to seem like a total coward on the way out
He went out with the bare minimum level of knowledge and proceeded to poach animals while wasting 90% of the meat. I 100% blame the guy for all of the simple things he didn't take the time to learn or consider.
we were born with higher intelligence than most animals may as well put it to use and avoid needlessly uncomfortable situations. i always tell young people that adulthood is knowing you only have to be uncomfortable when you need to because you're old enough/experienced enough/smart enough to know how to plan to where it doesn't happen unless it has to
He just hit a long spell of bad luck. Still a cool guy, better to die living the life you want to live then be confined by the limited conceptions of people who call you a moron on PrepHole.
except there's other options, it doesn't have to be two extremes but i realize that's asking a lot of people on PrepHole
The only reason this guy was propelled to the mainstream was the following message >Reject the life of your parents >Reject the society that they built >Is it great being isolated and alone >Just lay down and die
WASP "greatest generations" and boomers have given the reigns of their society to israelites and welcomed in millions of the third world for cheap labor, and now all the land is also being taken over by rich Chinese and Indians. Why should anyone be surprised when millennials and zoomers reject that corrupted society?
Bro he regretted his dumb choices and wanted to go back home. He wrote about while slowly dying. That said atleast he wasn't as stupid as Timothy Treadwell
>Timothy Treadwell
He DEFINITELY killed himself. Im sorry but he fricking commit suicide because he knew he couldn't deal with humanity. He talks about getting eaten by a bear all the time and he was supposed to leave but got into an altercation at the airport.
I don't think he'd take his girlfriend up there if he wanted to become bear food. He was delusional and really did believe that the bears loved him, and that he was their saviour even though they were fattening up for hibernation and would eat anything at that point.
Man, I'd love to hear the tape of him being eaten though. I know that's dark but I don't think there would be anything more real that a human ear could hear. Too bad his sister destroyed it (apparently).
>better to die living the life you want
I'm sure that's exactly what he was thinking as he exhaled his last breath, alone, freezing and starving.
He totally didn't think "damn, this was stupid, I wish I was chillin" in my parents guest house right now"....
He really did not, his little Alaska adventure was not even four month's. Shit, I lived in the Olympic Peninsula for over a year when I was a homeless.
>rotten meats and eating poop.
I saw the rotten meat thing in the movie. What's the poopoo thing?
And come on what kind of absolute moron tries to bury meat to preserve it. That is even dumber than the stupid bear Grylls island where the women put meat in sea water. And they were stupid women who had never been outside.
Let's pretend his passion was Nascar driving... Christopher McCandless sets off, from California in an old car he rebuilt himself (he replaced the fenders and painted it), on a trip to the Daytona 500. He only gets across the state line when he runs out of fuel because he forgot to fill it up. Instead of simply walking to the nearest gas station or flagging down help he decides to push his car over an embankment and set it on fire. He then proceeds to walk on foot to the nearest car lot (which happens to be in Mexico for some reason, mostly because he burned up his map in the car and he's been taking backroads.) He finds an old bicycle in a garbage dump and uses that. 288 KB PNG He finally gets to the car lot and buys a fixer-upper for $50. Before leaving the car lot he has to change a tire, which he replaces with the solid rubber donut. He buys fuel and heads off to the Daytona 500 again. Only he's heading deeper into Mexico and eventually ends up broken down in front of, "Autodromo Internacional de la Jolla" due to no water in the radiator. The engine block has seized up. Luckily, there's a race about to start. Christopher...er "Alexander Superspeeder", who changed his name, pays the $125 entry fee for the race. Unfortunately, Alexander Superspeeder doesn't have a race car. He does however have an old bicycle still. He uses the bicycle to race. He makes it only 3 laps before he is too tired to steer straight and veers off into a race car and is killed. Some israelite picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another israelite makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him. The End.
No he wasn't. Society remembers him that way but if you read his journals and actually take the time to consider what he did with his time here you will see that it is infact you that is the moron. He was passionate and free in ways that few men will ever know and he suffered greatly for it. It's a shame that the Sean Penn movie wasn't better but it captured a bit of it.
He went and lived alone in a cabin in the woods instead of walling in his misery and whining about wanting to live alone in a cabin in the woods. This makes him better then 80% of PrepHole.
Let's pretend his passion was Nascar driving... Christopher McCandless sets off, from California in an old car he rebuilt himself (he replaced the fenders and painted it), on a trip to the Daytona 500. He only gets across the state line when he runs out of fuel because he forgot to fill it up. Instead of simply walking to the nearest gas station or flagging down help he decides to push his car over an embankment and set it on fire. He then proceeds to walk on foot to the nearest car lot (which happens to be in Mexico for some reason, mostly because he burned up his map in the car and he's been taking backroads.) He finds an old bicycle in a garbage dump and uses that. 288 KB PNG He finally gets to the car lot and buys a fixer-upper for $50. Before leaving the car lot he has to change a tire, which he replaces with the solid rubber donut. He buys fuel and heads off to the Daytona 500 again. Only he's heading deeper into Mexico and eventually ends up broken down in front of, "Autodromo Internacional de la Jolla" due to no water in the radiator. The engine block has seized up. Luckily, there's a race about to start. Christopher...er "Alexander Superspeeder", who changed his name, pays the $125 entry fee for the race. Unfortunately, Alexander Superspeeder doesn't have a race car. He does however have an old bicycle still. He uses the bicycle to race. He makes it only 3 laps before he is too tired to steer straight and veers off into a race car and is killed. Some israelite picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another israelite makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him. The End.
>Some israelite picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another israelite makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him.
If that doesn't sum it up, I don't know what will.
Let's pretend his passion was Nascar driving... Christopher McCandless sets off, from California in an old car he rebuilt himself (he replaced the fenders and painted it), on a trip to the Daytona 500. He only gets across the state line when he runs out of fuel because he forgot to fill it up. Instead of simply walking to the nearest gas station or flagging down help he decides to push his car over an embankment and set it on fire. He then proceeds to walk on foot to the nearest car lot (which happens to be in Mexico for some reason, mostly because he burned up his map in the car and he's been taking backroads.) He finds an old bicycle in a garbage dump and uses that. 288 KB PNG He finally gets to the car lot and buys a fixer-upper for $50. Before leaving the car lot he has to change a tire, which he replaces with the solid rubber donut. He buys fuel and heads off to the Daytona 500 again. Only he's heading deeper into Mexico and eventually ends up broken down in front of, "Autodromo Internacional de la Jolla" due to no water in the radiator. The engine block has seized up. Luckily, there's a race about to start. Christopher...er "Alexander Superspeeder", who changed his name, pays the $125 entry fee for the race. Unfortunately, Alexander Superspeeder doesn't have a race car. He does however have an old bicycle still. He uses the bicycle to race. He makes it only 3 laps before he is too tired to steer straight and veers off into a race car and is killed. Some israelite picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another israelite makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him. The End.
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He was a fricking moron
Literally main character syndrome. He was basically the proto-zoomer.
He was an overtly mentally ill man allowed to wander into danger and nature took its course, like a senile old lady allowed to wander off onto a freeway on a dark foggy night, maladaptive daydreamers wank to him because an artificial narrative was built around this tragedy to sell coomsoomer wankery.
Dude belonged in a group home.
Imagine seething over a dumbass loser lmao
lurk moar newbie
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That might be true, but I think the distinction between discipline and repetition could account for this difference. Repetition is mindless and leads to no new variations, whereas discipline includes repetition but tends to result in new outcomes. From here its just a matter of choosing what repetition you want to abide by and disciplining yourself to reach the kinds of experiences you want to have in life.
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Tell that to our ancestors, I mean statistically it's going to happen to a large portion of us no matter what we try to do to stop it, but if you ask me more people die terrified today then ever before because of how afraid we are of death. And don't get me wrong, it's healthy to have a fear of death, but to live in such fear of lifes consequences that you don't go out and live it is no life at all.
If you went back in time and told Chris the outcome of his life I don't think he would have changed his path, he just would have learned the things he needed to avoid those outcomes as best he could, and if he knew just a little more he might very well be out there today.
If the alternative to those conditions is Old, well fed, demented and wasting away in some nursing home, which end would you choose? A young death full of adventurous and full years, or an old death to tired from having done nothing for decades to want to carry on?
His death is a testament to all those who want to live that kind of life, because as he could have learned better or been better prepared, we can also learn from his story and be better prepared ourselves. Whatever you choose more power to you, I for one would prefer his death to being plugged into the medical system.
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I think people have so much fear of their death nowadays compared to some mudfarmer in 999 AD is because we have less connection to nature and society at large. I remember growing up and some classmates were horrified learning where their dinner comes from, turned vegetarian and all that crap. Of course we dont grow up watching our siblings die from the plague, but we are so disconnected to everything and live in our own little bubbles of comfort that any small disruption has a disproportionate affect due to our lack of learned *coping*. There was a marked difference in the approach to death between my greatgrandfather who lived thru the depression and fought in ww2 and my father who, god bless him, was a sissified yuppie. I do believe that the zen homies had the right idea in that each day a man should set aside a few minutes to contemplate their death so we can *cope* better and lead a more fulfilling life.
/rant/
10 days ago or so I was in a refuge in the mountains, and there were a lot of foreigners there. There was a couple from alaska and we end up chatting for some time, and at some point we started talking about this homosexual. They told me that everyone in alaska think he was a frickin idiot. Since I can recite by heart almost the entire pasta, I started doing it as if it just came to my mind (changing a couple of things to sound more natural). I probably sounded a bit autistic but they laugh and it was funny to recite a pasta irl to some normies.
If he wasn't so up his own ass I'd like him a lot more, dude would've been a social media attention prostitute posting "inspirational" content if he was born in the internet age, without a doubt
He was in the right and nobody should be able to step in or stop you from hurting or killing yourself so long as you don’t hurt or kill anyone else along with your stupid ass.
His heart was in the right place, but he was indeed not very smart. It's like saying "I want to go skydiving" and then just jumping out of a plane with no parachute. What the frick, bro.
McCandless was a bigger Black person than most Black folk. PrepHole should feel bad for glorifying this total loser who came from a privileged background and threw it all away to become a complete lowlife before dying like a moron.
>didn't pay for car insurance >didn't pay to float on a river >carried a gun as was his constitutional right
You should feel bad for implying that any of those things are bad
4 months ago
Anonymous
Whatever you think about those laws, it's pretty fricking stupid to believe that you are above them and wouldn't get into trouble for breaking them.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>step on me harder government daddy, your boots are delicious
4 months ago
Anonymous
I wish people like this didn't exist in society. People trying to enforce rules on others are the worst kind of people.
>does what the frick he wants for like 2 years straight then dies >NPCs and feds baffled by the audacity of 1 man to simply exist and walk and kayak
how dare he leave all the israeli money and ingenuine, corrupt and meaningless human society behind, he should have just stayed in school and enslaved himself to the banks like us!
4 months ago
Anonymous
His plan really worked out for him, didn't it?
4 months ago
Anonymous
He lived the way he wanted for the remainder of his life, so... yes
4 months ago
Anonymous
He slowly died of starvation living in absolute misery. He didn't accomplish anything except prove that he was out of his depth.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>didn't accomplish anything
Post a link to the book that was written about you
4 months ago
Anonymous
We're still sitting here discussing what was essentially nothing more than a weird homeless guy's elaborate suicide over 30 years after it happened, I'd say that's a pretty big accomplishment. I doubt anyone will even remember any of us three decades after we're dead, let alone obsess over our lives on Mongolian cross-stitching forums.
The only reason why anyone outside of Alaska remembers him is because of the book and movie. Without that, he would just be another Missing 411 statistic.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Right, so, what's the name of the book about you again?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>a book written about what an interesting giant moron you were is an "accomplishment"
maybe for the writer
3 months ago
Anonymous
>both your life and death serve as an educational cautionary tale that warrants writing about >anons who fail to be noteworthy in any way and will die with no more lasting impression on mankind than a fart in the wind judge you harshly for it
Better to read about his mistakes than make them yourself
4 months ago
Anonymous
We're still sitting here discussing what was essentially nothing more than a weird homeless guy's elaborate suicide over 30 years after it happened, I'd say that's a pretty big accomplishment. I doubt anyone will even remember any of us three decades after we're dead, let alone obsess over our lives on Mongolian cross-stitching forums.
3 months ago
Anonymous
if that's all you want you can also die doing something so ridiculously stupid people discuss what the frick you were thinking years later
my favorite part of this whole bullshit is that the air force had to remove the bus he died in with a chinook because moronic hippies would always try to hike to it and get stuck and need rescuing all the time
3 months ago
Anonymous
>He lived the way he wanted
Starving and dying while desperately attempting to leave the area?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>hurr durr he ded
Yes, we are all aware that he died. The point is many people die having lived far more depressing lives with less freedom.
3 months ago
Anonymous
this
dying after roaming the wilderness for 2 years away from society sounds like a better fate than being a slave to a corporation for 40 years only to be stuck in a shithole nursing home for immediately after that the remainder of my life, completely dependent on the subhuman nurses to do fricking anything with no privacy whatsoever
3 months ago
Anonymous
>implying that 99% of PrepHole would even manage to survive more than 2 weeks in the wilderness, let alone 2 years
3 months ago
Anonymous
Hahahaha. I mean, or you could just not be a loser. I make a healthy profit, camp regularly, backpack a couple times a year and have a summer cabin in the piedmont. I also have about 750,000 in liquid assets and about a million-million and a quarter in property. I'm 35. I'm putting in a fishing pond soon. Good stuff
3 months ago
Anonymous
sounds like bullshit, those who have such things and are truly content don't feel the need to brag about it to people they don't know on the internet lol
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nah. I like bragging. Let it be a lesson to people who spend their lives talking about bullshit and never doing it. Year after year just wasting their time. Consooming day after day, whether that's simps with e-girls, losers with shitty outdoor gear, always just maladaptively daydreaming about how things would be "different" if they just bugged out, or were born richer, or handsomer, or blah blah blah. Even consooming nature itself like McCandless. They never build anything, never actually create anything. You never hear these people talk about building raising animals or sowing crops. They're just gonna "hunt, live off the land". They never learn useful skills. Never create a damn thing their whole lives. Those kind of losers are what keep me going.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You sound genuinely schizophrenic. Take your meds unironically.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You sound like a loser. Touch grass, unironically. Hahaha.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Hahahaha. I mean, or you could just not be a loser. I make a healthy profit, camp regularly, backpack a couple times a year and have a summer cabin in the piedmont. I also have about 750,000 in liquid assets and about a million-million and a quarter in property. I'm 35. I'm putting in a fishing pond soon. Good stuff
Nah. I like bragging. Let it be a lesson to people who spend their lives talking about bullshit and never doing it. Year after year just wasting their time. Consooming day after day, whether that's simps with e-girls, losers with shitty outdoor gear, always just maladaptively daydreaming about how things would be "different" if they just bugged out, or were born richer, or handsomer, or blah blah blah. Even consooming nature itself like McCandless. They never build anything, never actually create anything. You never hear these people talk about building raising animals or sowing crops. They're just gonna "hunt, live off the land". They never learn useful skills. Never create a damn thing their whole lives. Those kind of losers are what keep me going.
Horseshit. Quit bragging online and mow your law, Pete.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Don't need to Black person, that's why I bought the mini goats! That and because their company brings me joy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Odds are you'll also die scared and fighting it no matter what you do, I've had many older relatives pass away this decade and it's never pretty. People have a false impression of what it's like to die from movies and TV. The only thing you can really control is how you live until it's your turn to plead with the reaper.
Now, granted, some series of life decisions will make that moment come a lot sooner than others...
Anons be getting lost on this subject. Appreciating things or aspects about a person doesnt equate to worship or idolatry. Appreciating the fact he had the balls to pack it up and hit the wilderness doesnt mean one adores him.
You can appreciate the aspect of him having the balls to give it a go, even if he did it poorly. He can be both an inspirational story and a cautionary tale. And he is both. The end.
It's surprising how many stupid ways people can die
This guy, on the other hand, was an experienced outdoors man and knew what he was doing. Yet he was apparently completely oblivious to the fact that alcohol withdrawal and DTs can fricking kill you
I'm sure he would have been better off posting the same thread about a 30-year dead homeless man twice a week on his favorite online autism support group for the rest of his life.
I live in Healy. About 4 minutes from Stampede road. Everyone here considers him a moron. Even the meth heads who live in dry cabins with no heating think that.
the reason why you haven't left your basement despite desperately trying to convince yourself of this is because you are still keenly aware how much more miserable you would be trying to replicate this nonsense.
late as frick to this post. i live near Healy and know the guy that found Chris' backpack AFTER the police came. they found Chris' passport, drivers license, library card, passport and 300$ cash. he was trying to leave. yes, he's a fricking moron.
Will Forsburg fricking hates people using Stampede road because he lives nearby and uses that trail to cache supplies for Denali climbers at McGonagall Pass. Frick that dude.
>The authorities attempted, but never succeeded, in locating McCandless, who was wanted due to his lack of proper river training as well as kayaking on the river without a valid boating license.
Oy vey, he didn't pay the river tax.
>He was a fricking moron
After carefully reviewing the case of Mr. Chris McCandless, I must agree with OP's conclusion that Mr. McCandless was, indeed, a moron.
However, let the record show that Mr. McCandless was a moron who, being so committed to his moronic ideals, chose to brave the Alaskan wilderness to the point of death instead of giving up and making any meaningful attempt at returning to civilization.
Such conviction and determination to adhere to ones own moronic way of life against all better judgement to the point of death is, in a way, a noble endeavor.
>In 2013, a new hypothesis was proposed. Ronald Hamilton, a retired bookbinder at the Indiana University of Pennsylvania,[6] suggested a link between the symptoms described by McCandless and the poisoning of israeli prisoners in the concentration camp at Vapniarca. He put forward the proposal that McCandless starved to death because he was suffering from paralysis in his legs induced by lathyrism, which prevented him from gathering food or hiking.[32] Lathyrism may be caused by oxalyldiaminopropionic acid (ODAP) poisoning from seeds of Hedysarum alpinum.
It's annudah shoah
Guy studied for a business degree to do well enough in the human world, why wouldn't he do his homework to do well enough in the natural world? He was arrogant to assume that he'd be able to wing it and survive in the American wilderness.
what did you guys think about his family?
His sister is hot but it seems like they were all insufferable upper middle class frickholes. I wanted to punch his mom
threw a pretty good life away right after graduating college to wander the west and be a video game protagonist for a couple years before ultimately going off to alaska underprepared where he died a very preventable death alone in the woods
he gets talked about a lot because he appeals to schizoids and romantics
Holy shit, he DIED? Wow, I had no idea, as I've never heard that vital piece of information before. Guess that completely invalidates everything else he ever did.
no it really doesn't. he rejected the shitty materialistic american society to do whatever the frick he wanted as a nomad in the wilderness instead of being some corporation's b***h like most people. he's based for that alone. it doesn't really matter if his life was shorter as a result because those two years he had of freedom and adventure would certainly still have been better than having a boring shitty full time job
Hahahaha. I mean, or you could just not be a loser. I make a healthy profit, camp regularly, backpack a couple times a year and have a summer cabin in the piedmont. I also have about 750,000 in liquid assets and about a million-million and a quarter in property. I'm 35. I'm putting in a fishing pond soon. Good stuff
No one on PrepHole actually disputes this. It is commonly understood that he was a colossal idiot.
Yes, let’s stop talking about him
I liked him when I was young. Still kinda do
He definitely has his charm and you can't deny he at least put his money where his mouth is. Faustian in a way.
At the end of the day, if we do feel a certain way about the likes of Richard Russell or that one penguin from Herzog's Encounters at the end of the world, why not McCandless as well? The more threads we have about how much of a moron he was, the more sympathetic towards him I get. Imagine dog-piling on Ikarus, swarthoid-tier behavior.
I like the way you say things anon. I think his embrace of transcendental ideals, a lot of which are ridiculed in our postmodern era (but let's not forget, even back then, Poe was making fun of them), and while I understand it's easy to criticize, it's like you said... there's something there. Rooted in a hope for things. A way out of the nut-busting gauntlet of a 9 to 5. Maybe not even as an example by which we should follow, but as a thing to look back on in times of stress, as one does a vacation. A sort of, "oh, that was a nice trip," but instead, "oh, well at least someone had some fun, got out from it all."
It rings truest when you're young. I'm past the age where I can really piss into the wind like that, but a part of me will always admire the carelessness of youth. Maybe carelessness isn't the right word. Maybe it's careful. Full of care. I flew to Ireland alone. Met a girl for a week and moved into her camper. Drove around in a van. Now it's cooled down a bit. The bright colors have blended to gray. My week consist of counting down from 5. This isn't to complain. Things are good, just different. It's easy to laugh at his extremism, to poke fun, but one has to expect the grandiosity of it all. After all, I've got work in the morning. Hell, might go crazy and get a smoothie beforehand.
The height of youthful carelessness was driving around in a van huh
I think you could hit that peak again
he absolutely put his money where his mouth was. I think it was oddly noble to essentially commit suicide by nature. I always say I would never commit suicide, I was just disappear into nature. Leave all your problems back in civilization and either come out of the experience a new person or end up dead anyway
yup
Kek
Gem
go back
I'm the original creator of this basedjak kek. I named it busjak. this is the pinnacle of all of my PrepHole contributions over the years.
the ideals he lived by were admirable and the fact that he had the balls to execute on him. who the frick would venture into the alaskan wilderness with nothing but a 22 rifle and a bag of rice? his death was tragic and easily preventable, but that's not the point. his story imo is similar to those of solo-climbers like marc-andré leclerc, the 'grizzly man' timothy treadwell, the flat earther mike hughes that died launching his homemade rocket, or even someone like steve irwin as moronic as it sounds. what makes people like this so alluring is the fact that they died in the pursuit of the impossible. people that are truly like this are a dime a dozen. a modern, PrepHole equivalent of this archetype is lord miles, the bong that vacationed in afghanistan during the fall of kabul. stupid? yes. intriguing? also yes.
do what normal people do and just find a pdf of it online moron. and objectively it's meh. mccandless himself is an interesting character and I guess the author is a decent writer, but watching a youtube video about him is just as good. it's a pretty short read though, but is it worth it memes aside? maybe. up to you really. upon reading it you'll probably relate to the guy a lot. I sure did. still kind of do. this doesn't negate the fact that he was an ultra mega moron though, but maybe that's the allure. a wienery naive 20 something going out into the world, grabbing it by the balls, and caring frick all about what others think. was he mentally ill? maybe, but I think he was just high off of finally being free to do whatever the frick he wanted. remember though that there are thousands of young men like mccandless who will never manage to get some israelite to write a book and then get another israelite to make a movie about them. mccandless is an archetype more than anything.
>I'm the original creator of this basedjak kek. I named it busjak. this is the pinnacle of all of my PrepHole contributions over the years.
i've seen a few memes I've made passed around on various boards. whenever i do it makes me smile then i realise that i need to stop using PrepHole so much
He just hit a long spell of bad luck. Still a cool guy, better to die living the life you want to live then be confined by the limited conceptions of people who call you a moron on PrepHole.
kek, found the maladaptive daydreamer.
He could have been better prepared sure, thats why you don't see me out there, but still the river prevented his means of getting back, he misjudged that sure but you can't blame the guy for not knowing it would.
Alright, someone post the NASCAR pasta.
I do think the reason his story is so popular is because a lot of people felt the way he felt, his heart was in the right place he was just underprepared. Take the story as a cautionary tale and learn how you wanna live your live. Theres a lot of people who successfully do what he tried to do and even more who want to do it, at least he had the balls to commit to the life he wanted to live, that to me is all that really counts.
He was an overtly mentally ill man allowed to wander into danger and nature took its course, like a senile old lady allowed to wander off onto a freeway on a dark foggy night, maladaptive daydreamers wank to him because an artificial narrative was built around this tragedy to sell coomsoomer wankery.
Dude belonged in a group home.
>muh maladaptive blahblahblah
Opinion discarded
>REEEEEEEEEE!!!!11111
kek, go outside homosexual.
You will never be a woman. Now go back.
Who are you to say what’s “mal”-adaptive and who are you to deem what’s the correct adaption?
Modern industrial society is maladaptive you soap eating cuck. Enjoy your chains slave
Take your meds, frickBlack person.
Your on this board because you enjoy the outdoors right? Wouldn't you rather die in the wilderness then locked up in some hole because people want you to die on their terms? I mean, you gotta die sometimes, don't we all reserve the right to decide where that should be for ourselves?
he didn't die "on his own terms" he died horribly from preventable health conditions and ultimately from societies unwillingness properly manage its mentally infirm.
Stop romanticizing it because you want to jerk off to running away from the shit life you've made for yourself while doing nothing to actually improve it.
Societal constructs are not to be mistaken for real existence, they are tools and can be used to achieve a certain end but they are not objective reality because the do not exist independent of human invention.
He absolutely died on his own terms because he chose a course of action that had those consequences, and as terrible as it was it beats the hell out of a life in the rat race saving up for retirement and dying having lived the same day over and over again in the names "Mentally Healthy" and "Mature".
There are dudes who live out in the woods and are no less fulfilled then someone who lives under the rule of industry, the only difference is they don't have a bunch of people who will agree with them and reinforce their neurotic illusion that their technological existence is objectively passable as "All that life is".
You advocacy of help for the "mentally ill" is nothing but a stagnate morality designed to euthanize the human spirit, when the reality is that the way of life you speak of is the very thing that causes so called mental illness.
>"Preventable health conditions."
Everything is a preventable health condition, but at a certain point you have to overcome that neurotic postponement of death and do something thats worthwhile to you. It's better to live a few years on an adventure that you chose then to die in some dead end job full of unsatisfied regrets.
If thats the life you've chosen brother then more power to you, you're completely justified in living it if it's meaningful to you. But that doesn't mean it is that way to other people. If you advocate experiential singularity of any kind in putting down people who can and do set out to live a different life then you're a total wienersucker.
To take responsibility for our existence we each stake our lives on a course of action with the wager of death, the greatest improvement is setting out to do something thats true to you.
Pro tip: Don't bother arguing with authoritarian dickheads who think they know what's best for everybody in society. Also don't vote these types into any sort of political office.
>dying having lived the same day over and over again
Isn’t this inevitable though? Most people even in the ancient past ended up livinn the same day over and over agin most of the time. In society or not. Living off the land or not. Unless you have a crazy adventurerous life this’ll end up happening.
Unless your a hunter gatherer moving nomad/Arab nomad I guess but even then I bet all the days end up blending together with only the environment really changing.
That might be true, but I think the distinction between discipline and repetition could account for this difference. Repetition is mindless and leads to no new variations, whereas discipline includes repetition but tends to result in new outcomes. From here its just a matter of choosing what repetition you want to abide by and disciplining yourself to reach the kinds of experiences you want to have in life.
Tell that to our ancestors, I mean statistically it's going to happen to a large portion of us no matter what we try to do to stop it, but if you ask me more people die terrified today then ever before because of how afraid we are of death. And don't get me wrong, it's healthy to have a fear of death, but to live in such fear of lifes consequences that you don't go out and live it is no life at all.
If you went back in time and told Chris the outcome of his life I don't think he would have changed his path, he just would have learned the things he needed to avoid those outcomes as best he could, and if he knew just a little more he might very well be out there today.
If the alternative to those conditions is Old, well fed, demented and wasting away in some nursing home, which end would you choose? A young death full of adventurous and full years, or an old death to tired from having done nothing for decades to want to carry on?
His death is a testament to all those who want to live that kind of life, because as he could have learned better or been better prepared, we can also learn from his story and be better prepared ourselves. Whatever you choose more power to you, I for one would prefer his death to being plugged into the medical system.
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>If the alternative to those conditions is Old, well fed, demented and wasting away in some nursing home, which end would you choose? A young death full of adventurous and full years, or an old death to tired from having done nothing for decades to want to carry on?
Fortunately these two aren’t the only alternatives. One can very well lead an adventurous and full life without being an imbecile about it and dying a terrible death at a young age.
I definitely want to live to an old age. However, if my mind or my body were to desert me, I’m sure I’d have the constitution to kill myself. I most certainly would not do that in an utterly miserable way, though.
Absolutely, there are always more alternative. But for those alternative to exist in the first place they are to be predicated on extreme examples such as Chris Mccandleless. For a lot of people they need some kind of media like this to break through to them so as to demonstrate these alternatives, because they're so plugged in that they won't even become aware of these testaments otherwise.
It's all relative, and so long as you're doing you thats all that matter; But it seems unproductive to not weigh the Pros of this mans existence with the Cons. His is a cautionary tale, and one that can be learned from just like any other, so it goes without saying that for better or worse his story inspired a lot of people to set out to live a different kind of life. Hell you can even say that because he was such a jackass the memory of his death sticks to peoples brains (You'know how many times I've talked about foraging wild food and people have mentioned his death like "Better watch out, you don't wanna end up like X").
Pros: Inspirational, bigger balls then 90% of Americans, seemed like a chill dude.
Cons: Underprepared and bit off more then he could chew, should have humbled himself a few more years to learn what he needed to accomplish what he set out to do.
Damn Ted I knew you were still alive
Too many words.
This is a discussion board, I'd prefer to galvanize somebody prepared to talk about ideas rather then the typical "Frick you adhom". and circle jerk of memes and so fourth; Don't get me wrong, there is a time and a place for that kind of thing but if your sole intention is to come to a discussion board and not try and have discussions then maybe twitter is more your speed pal(s).
Disconnection from nature, or just that feeling of being trapped in general. Tech isn't bad but the extent to which we cling to it is unhealthy, contrarily anyone who clings to nature to their own detriment (Which is for them to determine) I'd also argue against them to pursue something they haven't tried. Things aren't so black and white, but you can definetly see today that we're so plugged into tech we don't see any other way of life, and we're quick to judge anyone who tries to pursue new lifestyles.
>galvanize
I'm all for some vocabulary variation but that one's a bit of a stretch
>shock or excite (someone) into taking action.
Action in conversation, and through conversation ideas that we can take into our real lives. Is it that much of a stretch or are you just trying to be a semantic dick?
>[angry morbidly obese reditor sounds]
kek, turn off the screen and go waddle outside homosexuals.
I live outside half of the week by choice sissyboi
I agree tech in and of itself isnt bad, its a damn blessing. Ive lived and worked with amish/mennonite and plain people types and, as much as i enjoy imagining myself as some 1800s homesteader or injun remover cowboy, living like that is a huge PITA. Its doable, but requires a lot of sacrifice and grit, especially if you frick up (you will frick up everything at least once). I feel like i grew up at the best time to be able to deal with the weird modern world. I got to jack off to tomb raider but also go climb trees and bag squirrels with my bros. A big part is the breakdown of social cohesion lately, and the unexpected repercussions of the money-grab mindset of early social media. It will be interesting to see if the pendulum swings back the other way in the next few decades as the old guard dies off and more young people grow into positions of authority in our society.
I'm not so sure it's ever been a generational issue, after all every generation tries to overcome their forebears, and in so doing they tend to create new forms of oppression that they will inflict upon their descendants and so fourth. But on an individual level we can strive to just do our thing, maybe then the newgaurd will take notice and join in.
>amish/mennonite
They dont actually live like that. They're "off grid" in the sense that they get electricity from a generator. Its all total bullshit.
I know.
PA here. The amish cheat more than a 27-year-old roastie at a bachelorette party. I've seen them take vans to Sheetz and get MTOs off of the touch-screen kiosks before going to build shit with scissor lifts and power tools. They can do whatever they want as long as their bishop says jeebus is okay with it.
My moms landlord in ky was mennonite. Was shocking to teenage me to move her in and see the boys working on the electrical wiring. What really cemented my opinion of them was seeing how they treat their animals, especially the puppy mills
S O V L
>ultimately from societies unwillingness properly manage its mentally infirm.
I'm with you except for this. Totally irrelevant in this case.
He was not mentally ill. He graduated from a very good college before he left for his journey across America, Mexico and back to America to Alaska. Everyone he met liked him and he was eccentric definitely not crazy. If you read Into The Wild you'd have a much better understanding of him. His dad worked for NASA and contracted for satellite companies so I assume Chris was pretty intelligent himself.
Why would anyone want to die starving, sick, cold, and terrified at a young age?
Almost everything I do while PrepHole I do with the specific intention of not dying in the wilderness.
You have to go back.
Based. Who tf let these redditors on our board?
If this triggers you, you are nu-out. You will always be a coof tourist. You won't ever actually fit in here. The way you type, your homosexual mannerisms, will always out you as redditor castoffs. Go back.
Didn't someone specifically tell him that river would flood and he would end up trapped?
a lot of schizophrenic people start hearing voices and become suicidal
its possible he wanted to die and just didn't want to seem like a total coward on the way out
He went out with the bare minimum level of knowledge and proceeded to poach animals while wasting 90% of the meat. I 100% blame the guy for all of the simple things he didn't take the time to learn or consider.
>calling making terrible and stupid choices with obvious outcomes "bad luck"
let be guess, you too have just so much "bad luck".
Under no circumstances is it good to die starving, cold, and terrified.
>die fed, warm, and terrified in society instead
Understood
That's the natural way animals normally die, anon. Just being obtuse thoughever, I get the point that it's dumb when it was easily avoidable.
we were born with higher intelligence than most animals may as well put it to use and avoid needlessly uncomfortable situations. i always tell young people that adulthood is knowing you only have to be uncomfortable when you need to because you're old enough/experienced enough/smart enough to know how to plan to where it doesn't happen unless it has to
except there's other options, it doesn't have to be two extremes but i realize that's asking a lot of people on PrepHole
The only reason this guy was propelled to the mainstream was the following message
>Reject the life of your parents
>Reject the society that they built
>Is it great being isolated and alone
>Just lay down and die
WASP "greatest generations" and boomers have given the reigns of their society to israelites and welcomed in millions of the third world for cheap labor, and now all the land is also being taken over by rich Chinese and Indians. Why should anyone be surprised when millennials and zoomers reject that corrupted society?
>better to die living the life you want to live
>die
>want to live
you and him both pants on head moronic
Bro he regretted his dumb choices and wanted to go back home. He wrote about while slowly dying. That said atleast he wasn't as stupid as Timothy Treadwell
>Timothy Treadwell
He DEFINITELY killed himself. Im sorry but he fricking commit suicide because he knew he couldn't deal with humanity. He talks about getting eaten by a bear all the time and he was supposed to leave but got into an altercation at the airport.
I don't think he'd take his girlfriend up there if he wanted to become bear food. He was delusional and really did believe that the bears loved him, and that he was their saviour even though they were fattening up for hibernation and would eat anything at that point.
Man, I'd love to hear the tape of him being eaten though. I know that's dark but I don't think there would be anything more real that a human ear could hear. Too bad his sister destroyed it (apparently).
>better to die living the life you want
I'm sure that's exactly what he was thinking as he exhaled his last breath, alone, freezing and starving.
He totally didn't think "damn, this was stupid, I wish I was chillin" in my parents guest house right now"....
Only if his passion was nascar.
He still went out more than anyone on PrepHole.
Let's stay inside talking about him.
He really did not, his little Alaska adventure was not even four month's. Shit, I lived in the Olympic Peninsula for over a year when I was a homeless.
Storytime anon. Ive always wanted to go to alaska ever since i saw my papa's alaskan adventure photos.
i work outside every day.. dude was a moron child that didnt know how to surbibe inda wilds. rotten meats and eating poop. bruh he crazy.
>rotten meats and eating poop.
I saw the rotten meat thing in the movie. What's the poopoo thing?
And come on what kind of absolute moron tries to bury meat to preserve it. That is even dumber than the stupid bear Grylls island where the women put meat in sea water. And they were stupid women who had never been outside.
Animals bury meat to save it for later, so.
I summon the based NASCAR poster.
BASED NASCAR poster.
No he wasn't. Society remembers him that way but if you read his journals and actually take the time to consider what he did with his time here you will see that it is infact you that is the moron. He was passionate and free in ways that few men will ever know and he suffered greatly for it. It's a shame that the Sean Penn movie wasn't better but it captured a bit of it.
He went and lived alone in a cabin in the woods instead of walling in his misery and whining about wanting to live alone in a cabin in the woods. This makes him better then 80% of PrepHole.
*wallowing
Let's pretend his passion was Nascar driving... Christopher McCandless sets off, from California in an old car he rebuilt himself (he replaced the fenders and painted it), on a trip to the Daytona 500. He only gets across the state line when he runs out of fuel because he forgot to fill it up. Instead of simply walking to the nearest gas station or flagging down help he decides to push his car over an embankment and set it on fire. He then proceeds to walk on foot to the nearest car lot (which happens to be in Mexico for some reason, mostly because he burned up his map in the car and he's been taking backroads.) He finds an old bicycle in a garbage dump and uses that. 288 KB PNG He finally gets to the car lot and buys a fixer-upper for $50. Before leaving the car lot he has to change a tire, which he replaces with the solid rubber donut. He buys fuel and heads off to the Daytona 500 again. Only he's heading deeper into Mexico and eventually ends up broken down in front of, "Autodromo Internacional de la Jolla" due to no water in the radiator. The engine block has seized up. Luckily, there's a race about to start. Christopher...er "Alexander Superspeeder", who changed his name, pays the $125 entry fee for the race. Unfortunately, Alexander Superspeeder doesn't have a race car. He does however have an old bicycle still. He uses the bicycle to race. He makes it only 3 laps before he is too tired to steer straight and veers off into a race car and is killed. Some israelite picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another israelite makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him. The End.
The Post. Well done Sir.
What the frick man why would you write all that
lurk moar newbie
>Some israelite picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another israelite makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him.
If that doesn't sum it up, I don't know what will.
piss blood b***h.
Literally main character syndrome. He was basically the proto-zoomer.
Blessed pasta 🙂
Imagine seething over a dumbass loser lmao
Filtered HAHAHA
I think people have so much fear of their death nowadays compared to some mudfarmer in 999 AD is because we have less connection to nature and society at large. I remember growing up and some classmates were horrified learning where their dinner comes from, turned vegetarian and all that crap. Of course we dont grow up watching our siblings die from the plague, but we are so disconnected to everything and live in our own little bubbles of comfort that any small disruption has a disproportionate affect due to our lack of learned *coping*. There was a marked difference in the approach to death between my greatgrandfather who lived thru the depression and fought in ww2 and my father who, god bless him, was a sissified yuppie. I do believe that the zen homies had the right idea in that each day a man should set aside a few minutes to contemplate their death so we can *cope* better and lead a more fulfilling life.
/rant/
finally
do the israelites want more white boys to imitate his actions
Sounds based. If this happened I would like him to
10 days ago or so I was in a refuge in the mountains, and there were a lot of foreigners there. There was a couple from alaska and we end up chatting for some time, and at some point we started talking about this homosexual. They told me that everyone in alaska think he was a frickin idiot. Since I can recite by heart almost the entire pasta, I started doing it as if it just came to my mind (changing a couple of things to sound more natural). I probably sounded a bit autistic but they laugh and it was funny to recite a pasta irl to some normies.
If he wasn't so up his own ass I'd like him a lot more, dude would've been a social media attention prostitute posting "inspirational" content if he was born in the internet age, without a doubt
He was a Reaganite incel back then so he would have been a qtard /misc/ incel now.
He was in the right and nobody should be able to step in or stop you from hurting or killing yourself so long as you don’t hurt or kill anyone else along with your stupid ass.
This is a based take but look at the nutty putty cave thread. Same situation. One guy ruined it for everyone else.
Nah what happened there was a woman was sent in to rescue him
His heart was in the right place, but he was indeed not very smart. It's like saying "I want to go skydiving" and then just jumping out of a plane with no parachute. What the frick, bro.
he belonged to the college republicans group in his university so I am happy that he is dead
he supported a system governed by hatred and bigotry
lazy bait, but nu-out will still eat it up
I used to browse this board like 7 years agos. Occasionally check in. People are sitll making Into the Wild posts lmfao.
It's sad but vaguely entertaining.
i will neither give my body to science, nor have it cremated, nor buried, nor pyred on a longboat
nay, i will venture into the woods and let the grizzlys devour me
Your usa "culture" takes another life
Many such cases
I did something similar to him b4. AMA.
Still more intelligent and respectable than you and 99% of PrepHole
MEDS NOW
Christopher Johnson McCandless did more in two years than any of us will do in a lifetime. Goodnight sweet prince.
starving to death isn't an accomplishment
McCandless was a bigger Black person than most Black folk. PrepHole should feel bad for glorifying this total loser who came from a privileged background and threw it all away to become a complete lowlife before dying like a moron.
>generally strange, weird, with a weird energy
don't be too harsh on him, can't you see this poor guy's body was taken over by a skinwalker?
>didn't pay for car insurance
>didn't pay to float on a river
>carried a gun as was his constitutional right
You should feel bad for implying that any of those things are bad
Whatever you think about those laws, it's pretty fricking stupid to believe that you are above them and wouldn't get into trouble for breaking them.
>step on me harder government daddy, your boots are delicious
I wish people like this didn't exist in society. People trying to enforce rules on others are the worst kind of people.
You have to be 18 to post here
how do you highlight multiple different lines at the same time
Hold down the Ctrl key
>does what the frick he wants for like 2 years straight then dies
>NPCs and feds baffled by the audacity of 1 man to simply exist and walk and kayak
how dare he leave all the israeli money and ingenuine, corrupt and meaningless human society behind, he should have just stayed in school and enslaved himself to the banks like us!
His plan really worked out for him, didn't it?
He lived the way he wanted for the remainder of his life, so... yes
He slowly died of starvation living in absolute misery. He didn't accomplish anything except prove that he was out of his depth.
>didn't accomplish anything
Post a link to the book that was written about you
The only reason why anyone outside of Alaska remembers him is because of the book and movie. Without that, he would just be another Missing 411 statistic.
Right, so, what's the name of the book about you again?
>a book written about what an interesting giant moron you were is an "accomplishment"
maybe for the writer
>both your life and death serve as an educational cautionary tale that warrants writing about
>anons who fail to be noteworthy in any way and will die with no more lasting impression on mankind than a fart in the wind judge you harshly for it
Better to read about his mistakes than make them yourself
We're still sitting here discussing what was essentially nothing more than a weird homeless guy's elaborate suicide over 30 years after it happened, I'd say that's a pretty big accomplishment. I doubt anyone will even remember any of us three decades after we're dead, let alone obsess over our lives on Mongolian cross-stitching forums.
if that's all you want you can also die doing something so ridiculously stupid people discuss what the frick you were thinking years later
my favorite part of this whole bullshit is that the air force had to remove the bus he died in with a chinook because moronic hippies would always try to hike to it and get stuck and need rescuing all the time
>He lived the way he wanted
Starving and dying while desperately attempting to leave the area?
>hurr durr he ded
Yes, we are all aware that he died. The point is many people die having lived far more depressing lives with less freedom.
this
dying after roaming the wilderness for 2 years away from society sounds like a better fate than being a slave to a corporation for 40 years only to be stuck in a shithole nursing home for immediately after that the remainder of my life, completely dependent on the subhuman nurses to do fricking anything with no privacy whatsoever
>implying that 99% of PrepHole would even manage to survive more than 2 weeks in the wilderness, let alone 2 years
Hahahaha. I mean, or you could just not be a loser. I make a healthy profit, camp regularly, backpack a couple times a year and have a summer cabin in the piedmont. I also have about 750,000 in liquid assets and about a million-million and a quarter in property. I'm 35. I'm putting in a fishing pond soon. Good stuff
sounds like bullshit, those who have such things and are truly content don't feel the need to brag about it to people they don't know on the internet lol
Nah. I like bragging. Let it be a lesson to people who spend their lives talking about bullshit and never doing it. Year after year just wasting their time. Consooming day after day, whether that's simps with e-girls, losers with shitty outdoor gear, always just maladaptively daydreaming about how things would be "different" if they just bugged out, or were born richer, or handsomer, or blah blah blah. Even consooming nature itself like McCandless. They never build anything, never actually create anything. You never hear these people talk about building raising animals or sowing crops. They're just gonna "hunt, live off the land". They never learn useful skills. Never create a damn thing their whole lives. Those kind of losers are what keep me going.
You sound genuinely schizophrenic. Take your meds unironically.
You sound like a loser. Touch grass, unironically. Hahaha.
Horseshit. Quit bragging online and mow your law, Pete.
Don't need to Black person, that's why I bought the mini goats! That and because their company brings me joy.
Odds are you'll also die scared and fighting it no matter what you do, I've had many older relatives pass away this decade and it's never pretty. People have a false impression of what it's like to die from movies and TV. The only thing you can really control is how you live until it's your turn to plead with the reaper.
Now, granted, some series of life decisions will make that moment come a lot sooner than others...
>Do you fear death-a?
> oy vey, he did not pay the river tax, he shouldn't have enjoyed himself, since he did not pay money for it.
frick off, shlomo
What about the breaking into cabins part?
Maybe they were israeli cabins?
he accomplished and adventure and probably felt more alive than you ever will
So he was gay… kinda makes since now.
this guy seems to be carted out by seething feminists/socialists as some example of why no one especially men should do anything on their own.
Uncle Ted did it better
Anons be getting lost on this subject. Appreciating things or aspects about a person doesnt equate to worship or idolatry. Appreciating the fact he had the balls to pack it up and hit the wilderness doesnt mean one adores him.
You can appreciate the aspect of him having the balls to give it a go, even if he did it poorly. He can be both an inspirational story and a cautionary tale. And he is both. The end.
>He was a fricking moron
Why? He went for it while all you people just sit at home dreaming about doing it.
It's surprising how many stupid ways people can die
This guy, on the other hand, was an experienced outdoors man and knew what he was doing. Yet he was apparently completely oblivious to the fact that alcohol withdrawal and DTs can fricking kill you
thing about experience is it can also give you enough rope to have a nice day with
Guess he shouldn't have drank alcohol then
I'm sure he would have been better off posting the same thread about a 30-year dead homeless man twice a week on his favorite online autism support group for the rest of his life.
If you're just going to whine about board quality in every thread then get the frick out.
You're right bud, sorry, I'll get back to whining about how the desiccated bones were once moronic.
What the frick are you talking about?
I live in Healy. About 4 minutes from Stampede road. Everyone here considers him a moron. Even the meth heads who live in dry cabins with no heating think that.
It seems he ate wild plant (POISON), and it half paralyzed him, making him very weak and unable to hunt, or hike back to public.
I know everybody going out should know not to eat wild plants/fruit, or junk.
But it should really be remembered.
It's not that hard to make mistakes.
https://www.healthygreensavvy.com/best-foraging-books/
https://chestnutherbs.com/the-ten-best-books-on-foraging-wild-foods-and-herbs/
https://shepherd.com/bookshelf/edible-wild-plant?topics=Q2916569
https://www.primalsurvivor.net/foraging-books/
https://www.growforagecookferment.com/foraging-books/
Everybody laughs, until they confuse a berry/mushroom or shit.
And they are like wait, what did i eat?... oh shit...
https://blog.cincinnatichildrens.org/safety-and-prevention/the-great-outdoors-common-poisonous-plants-and-tips-for-avoiding-them/
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/types-of-edible-mushrooms-their-poisonous-look-alikes
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/wild-berries
>It's not that hard to make mistakes.
*avoid making mistakes
Why do people idolise a larper who died being a complete failure?
Because regardless of how he died, he lived better than most people
the reason why you haven't left your basement despite desperately trying to convince yourself of this is because you are still keenly aware how much more miserable you would be trying to replicate this nonsense.
Went camping over the weekend, don't plan on trying to live like that full-time. Seethe harder.
late as frick to this post. i live near Healy and know the guy that found Chris' backpack AFTER the police came. they found Chris' passport, drivers license, library card, passport and 300$ cash. he was trying to leave. yes, he's a fricking moron.
Will Forsburg fricking hates people using Stampede road because he lives nearby and uses that trail to cache supplies for Denali climbers at McGonagall Pass. Frick that dude.
It's McKinley, chuddie.
>The authorities attempted, but never succeeded, in locating McCandless, who was wanted due to his lack of proper river training as well as kayaking on the river without a valid boating license.
Oy vey, he didn't pay the river tax.
>He was a fricking moron
After carefully reviewing the case of Mr. Chris McCandless, I must agree with OP's conclusion that Mr. McCandless was, indeed, a moron.
However, let the record show that Mr. McCandless was a moron who, being so committed to his moronic ideals, chose to brave the Alaskan wilderness to the point of death instead of giving up and making any meaningful attempt at returning to civilization.
Such conviction and determination to adhere to ones own moronic way of life against all better judgement to the point of death is, in a way, a noble endeavor.
In summary: Good hustle, Chris.
I keep meaning to buy the book. Or borrow it from the library. Is it any good?
>In 2013, a new hypothesis was proposed. Ronald Hamilton, a retired bookbinder at the Indiana University of Pennsylvania,[6] suggested a link between the symptoms described by McCandless and the poisoning of israeli prisoners in the concentration camp at Vapniarca. He put forward the proposal that McCandless starved to death because he was suffering from paralysis in his legs induced by lathyrism, which prevented him from gathering food or hiking.[32] Lathyrism may be caused by oxalyldiaminopropionic acid (ODAP) poisoning from seeds of Hedysarum alpinum.
It's annudah shoah
Zoomers idolize Chris, real men idolize Shackleton
Guy studied for a business degree to do well enough in the human world, why wouldn't he do his homework to do well enough in the natural world? He was arrogant to assume that he'd be able to wing it and survive in the American wilderness.
what did you guys think about his family?
His sister is hot but it seems like they were all insufferable upper middle class frickholes. I wanted to punch his mom
Yeah he was.
WTF did he do? Judging by the posts here it seems he did PrepHole adjacent stuff but was also a pretty big moron and died.
threw a pretty good life away right after graduating college to wander the west and be a video game protagonist for a couple years before ultimately going off to alaska underprepared where he died a very preventable death alone in the woods
he gets talked about a lot because he appeals to schizoids and romantics
Holy shit, he DIED? Wow, I had no idea, as I've never heard that vital piece of information before. Guess that completely invalidates everything else he ever did.
>Guess that completely invalidates everything else he ever did.
In this particular case? Yeah actually.
It doesn't, everyone will die someday.
no it really doesn't. he rejected the shitty materialistic american society to do whatever the frick he wanted as a nomad in the wilderness instead of being some corporation's b***h like most people. he's based for that alone. it doesn't really matter if his life was shorter as a result because those two years he had of freedom and adventure would certainly still have been better than having a boring shitty full time job
making profit is for israelites
He (was) the living embodiment of a midwit.