>Has the firepower of an IFV. >Only 12 feet tall. >Used as heavy infantry. >Can move really fast

>Has the firepower of an IFV
>Only 12 feet tall
>Used as heavy infantry
>Can move really fast
Is there any reason we don't already have these?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because its fantasy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But why couldn't we make them? Other countries already are, why not the USA?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Physics, mostly

        What other country has made mechs? Do not post meme props from nipland that barely move.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What does it do that this can't for cheaper? I don't even recall this series having much jungle warfare where a legged system *might* make more sense than tracks.

          Korea has a functional locomotion system akin to those things in Avatar, but they're a solution looking for a problem in most respects.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >What does it do that this can't for cheaper?
            It only requires a single crew member.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That's not a benefit

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Crew is the cheapest thing about armor, having a ridiculously more complex vehicle for the sake of shaving off a few crew members is moronic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/GhBVztg.jpg

          >Has the firepower of an IFV
          >Only 12 feet tall
          >Used as heavy infantry
          >Can move really fast
          Is there any reason we don't already have these?

          Physics, and the qualities of a mech can probably be replicated with different combinations of technology. Let's walk through it:
          >Mechs have high mobility across most terrain
          >Mechs can travel in almost any 2D direction faster than a ground vehicle can turn
          >Mechs carry the equivalent of at least one crewed weapon
          >Mechs have the survivability of armor
          >Mechs have superior sensing abilities due to their size
          Those are five basic elements common to mechs.
          1) So do helicopters, or speculative vehicles/equipment equipped with jump rockets (MAKO, or jetpacks)
          2) Mechs can only do this at a dead stop, and frequently are depicted using rockets to help dodge and move suddenly
          3) There are other ways to give a single infantryman a lot of firepower. Imagine a robotic porter that follows a guy around loaded up with modified NLAW tubes, and all he has to do is designate a target. Plus, this way the ordnance is further away from the operator in the event of cookoff.
          4) There's not much you can do here to match the Mech, except reducing your overall size and spreading the whole system out so it's harder to hit and fully disable (like one dude and a bunch of little robotic weapon systems)
          5) lol drones

          tl;dr - you get most of the same combat benefits of a Mech if you can dramatically increase the mobility of an infantryman, and give him a bunch of small automated weapons platforms that follow him around to boost his firepower.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            heavier infantry is likely the answer. but it's not the one they want.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              VOTOM style mechs only exist because they couldn't shrink it down to Power Armor size.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >couldn't shrink it down
                what's the explanation on why?
                I feel like this is actually another example of the problem with mechs. the in-universe stuff never really seems to scale down. in reality, that's always the trend.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think they gave one. Considering it was an 80s era anime I guess the writers didn't figure on the miniturizing boom of the 90s.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think they gave one. Considering it was an 80s era anime I guess the writers didn't figure on the miniturizing boom of the 90s.

                japanese SF was familiar with power armor before then; starship troopers even got published with some art by studio nue around 1975 and maschinen krieger started showing up in hobbyist magazines in 1982
                with votoms, i believe the director wanted smaller mecha because he was looking for a way to make ground-based battle coreography more interesting after working on dougram: https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/09/06/ryosuke-takahashi-on-directing-anime-and-how-his-works-have-defined-mecha-for-over-three-decades/
                >The problem with Dougram was the mecha's size. The Dougram was around 10 meters tall, which in animation can be depicted as being both small and large. So that wasn't great in terms of the mecha's sense of scale. The other major problem was the mecha's speed at this size. Compared with Gundam, which features fights mostly set in space and looks fast, Dougram was entirely ground based. So battles were just running around on the ground and that lacked speed. I really wanted to do something about both the size of the mecha and its speed for the second series I did.
                >From that point I thought about what would be a realistic size, so maybe 2 to around 5 meters. If it was 2 meters, maybe some small Japanese person could pilot it but it's closer to a powered suit than a full on mecha. Also powered suits and powered armor were getting popular around that time too. Though, for me at that size, that wasn't a mecha it was a powered suit, so 2 meters was too small. However, if it was 5 meters when drawn in the anime it won't be that different between the 10 meter tall Dougram. People wouldn't really notice the difference in terms of the animation. So I thought 4 meters was just right.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So...no in-universe explanation?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nope. the director just wanted it to stay a mecha work

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Those other countries that exist in your schizo fantasies are not real.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what country is fielding 12 foot tall walking mechs with auto cannon armaments?
        I'm herbing this obvious bait thread, btw.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm referring mostly to Kalishnakov's developments in robotic technology.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            which one is 12 feet tall and carries an autocannon?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              None yet, but doesn't it say something kinda bad that the USA isn't at least trying to keep up with this technology? You have to start primitive to get advanced later.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >implying NGAD won't be a first gen veritech fighter

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                would like to see more vfs with 5th gen and stealth influenced lines tbh.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >soulless VFs
                kawamori would fricking never

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                they've been forgettable and soulless since frontier, might as well shake it up and try something new

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You have to start primitive to get advanced later.
                is the latest cope for russian tech?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't it say something kinda bad that the USA isn't at least trying to keep up with this technology?
                >he doesn't know about TALOS
                rope yourself vatBlack person

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                TALOS is just power armor, it's NOT a mech suit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >But why couldn't we make them?
        This pesky thing called "physics."

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What other countries? Fricking Ghana?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Clearly best Korea. why else do they keep everything so secretive?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        thermodynamics. no way to power it for any length of time. stop playing with your mom's lithium ion dildo in that hole in your body.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But why couldn't we make them? Other countries already are, why not the USA?

      The first country to field mechs will be China, and they will fail spectacularly as the pilots burn alive in the wienerpits as they trip over debris. America will then be the first to successfully field them and China will seethe forever about it.

      Screencap this post.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Votoms is the best type of mecha by a longshot.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's why Heavy Gear blatantly copied it.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Scopedogs also explode violently when hit by anything bigger than small arms fire
    it's not even just animation, the lubricant they use is canonically highly volatile

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      imagine how crazy the drone and fpv kill footage would be in an astragius war

      https://i.imgur.com/NlqmuMU.jpg

      What does it do that this can't for cheaper? I don't even recall this series having much jungle warfare where a legged system *might* make more sense than tracks.

      Korea has a functional locomotion system akin to those things in Avatar, but they're a solution looking for a problem in most respects.

      >I don't even recall this series having much jungle warfare where a legged system *might* make more sense than tracks.
      there was an entire arc in a jungle

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Space Cambodia arc was pretty great, yeah.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >even the ancient ruins look the same

          Yep, literally space cambodia. Man I should have thrown my hat in the ring when I found out that cambodian girl I worked with liked white guys.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i love those goofy little platforms they ride on

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            weren't the infantry-sized versions of those real at one point?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, intended for scouts and such, rendered obsolete by advances in satellite photography.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          god that looks so fricking comfy to play

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the dougram ones are rather neat to
            you get a periscope with a wienerpit view for them with the wienerpit controls, haven't seen any wargames do that for normal ground vehicles

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          SOUL

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The mecha equivalent of a T-72

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >detonates violently the moment anything bigger than an assault rifle scratches
    Nothin' personnel, VOTOM.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I fricking love that anime

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mellowlink was pretty good for a spin-off

      Too bad the raws were lost, so Blu-ray never

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It is baffling how shit like that was handled back in the day. Sega literally threw away the source code and masters for most of their old games because they thought oh, the cartridges and shit will be around forever so if we ever need it we'll just go to the store and buy a copy. That's why those collections you see on steam and other online stores that they re-release every few years all have the same games, because those are the only ones that someone at that company actually had the foresight to hold onto. Entirely possible those Mellowlink raws are sitting in a box in someone's basement somewhere because one of the studio staff asked if he could take it home with him to work on some project, one of the higher ups said yeah sure whatever, and they're there to this day because the guy that took them forgot he even had them, died, and now it's just a box of grandpa's old junk over in the corner, we don't know what it is but it's not like we need the space and it doesn't feel right to just throw it in the trash. So there it sits, forgotten unless it needs to be moved to get what's under or behind it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The original cels for Mellowlink were apparently lost in an earthquake, so it's unlikely there are any raws anywhere to use for a Blu-ray release

          The DVD release back in the 2000's was just an upscaled copy of the Laserdisc release

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >can be taken out by some dude on foot with an anti tank rifle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >runs on fricking space napalm
      >makes Russian turret tossing look like a fricking joke

      To be fair, it's mostly immune to the bullets outside of the optics.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i never understood the sliding around part

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          there's wheels in the feet
          with the ones being blown up there they actually have small caterpillar tracks mounted on the sides of its heels

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It looks cool, plus better for traversing long distances.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            for flat surfaces you mean, they have flatbed trucks for long range land travel

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm working on it

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, no Polymer Ringer Fluid.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >VOTOMS
    >love mecha anime
    >recent mecha shows are all garbage
    I would FRICKING MURDER for western mecha shows that aren't emo/waifu/idolshit.
    >Battletech
    >Titanfall (NO FRICKING APEX LEGENDS)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is probably less of an audience for western mech than Jap at this point. Probably why MW is bottom of the barrel shit right now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pacific Rim?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OBSOLETE was pretty good for the first 5 episodes before any semblance of a plot shat itself and then the show fricking ended. You could tell they had someone who gave a shit about materiel on the design team.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >gets disabled by a shitty little drone mortar bomb's shrapnel
    repair it now mech cuck

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure we wouldn't power and lubricate them with explodium like the astragains do.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mech games don't have enough launch sequences. That shit is like porn to me. Anyone else agree?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Like landing in flight games. People just don't appreciate immersion anymore. I would love for some indie dev to make a Wingman equivalent mech game.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's pretty much the only part of GBO2 that I like, all the mechs have a launch sequence before a match, and the 5 stars have unique launch sequences.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This shit right here man, that's the good shit. Yeah baby, you launch that mobile suit, launch it just for me.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ?si=Zqa2G17LyK6C9pAq&t=50
          Real game coming in hot

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I played the shit out of this back in the day. Shame it didn't you run your create a pilot back through once you maxed him out so you could style on everyone with max stats.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The 79N is best GM model.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://youtu.be/29xpemf-5l0?si=Zqa2G17LyK6C9pAq&t=50
          Real game coming in hot

          you are like small children
          check this shit out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_DZVwV0Vdc

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            A startup sequence is not the same as a launch sequence.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ok, the sound effects and interface gribblies going from 1970s tube computer sounds to 2000s scifi sounds is pretty frickjing cool. also >v5 having wide-field of view.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Wagner VOTOMS be like pic related

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    for me it's the erdspinne
    something about a giant autocannon-sized FG-42 just really gets me going

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We have not yet invented a small, high-power battery that can accomplish this.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would kill for IRL Heavy Gears

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why do their guns have the red-blue glowy things on the side

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ...Heat gauge? It's not like you can just feel the heat radiating off the barrel and I'm betting those barrels are shrouded against IR. Having a kind fo thermometer to check barrel and chamber temp seems useful.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Jets are faster, tanks are smaller and cheaper.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Actually, the Scope Dog is smaller than a tank.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        armament/armor wise its closer to recon vehicle - armed with autocanon and missles...
        and armor resistant to small arms fire while using speed/cover for survival from heavier fire
        if i would have to find a match today it would probably be bmp2/3 for blowing up spectacularly in huge fireball from any penetrating hit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Recon Vehicle
          Funny you should mention that. Remember how the Scopedog had that triclops design? Those three eyes are zoom, wide angle, and IR respectively.

          Also, Votoms take to modifications well so you often seem models up armed with missile launchers, gattlings, and recoilless rifles. Fully armed they more resemble an attack copter.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It is a little crazy just how many guns they can bolt on

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the eye design is based on a a bell & howell eyemo, which was commonly used in WWII and the Vietnam War by combat cameramen
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyemo
            it's a really neat bit of war film nerd detail

            • 1 month ago
              yoink

              i love it! i think i'll use it in a mecha design of mine. it'll be the standard optical system even

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                do something original

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                borrowing elements from iconic designs is a good way to make something that goes hard (see literally everything in Halo CE) but

                do something original

                is right. dont just copy it straight up.

              • 1 month ago
                yoink

                of course!i always add my own element of chaos.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't want to start a new thread so I'll post here
    >specialized vehicle for fighting in the conditions of destroyed megalopolises
    >varies in size and task from an analogue of single-seater armored cars to IFV and even tanks
    What does /k/ think about it? Is switching to walkers a valid idea, or is it better to leave the battles among ruins to infantry and heli?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >30mm
      >firing range 1500m
      >3900rpm
      would be ok for air defense but on a mech like that it's just very suboptimal

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah it's firing way too fast

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This or tachikoma would be ideal imo. You're not going to get anything heavier.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im one of the most casual, sporadic anime watchers ever...

    where could i find a collection of this? preferably with original audio, dubs, subs in mp4 or mkv format?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://nyaa.si/view/1444839

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >shoot knee joint
    >walker collapses and can't do anything
    >shoot treads of a tank
    >it can still use its turret to frick shit up

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >anon has never heard of kneeling or prone
      moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to maintain that kind of balance and control of a several ton machine?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          those things are like firecrackers when they don't move at fullmoron speed in battle

          Are you guys engineers? Yeah i didnt think so

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Mechs are moronic and there's a reason they aren't seen on modern battlefields
            >Hurr you guys aren't engineers!

            Lol, I'm cringing right out of my skin here. Truly, truly embarrassed for you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        those things are like firecrackers when they don't move at fullmoron speed in battle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Oh no I rolled my ankle looks like I can't write things with my pen in my hand anymore
      How fricking moronic are you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Then build it moron, if its so easy. The number 1 reason these moron anime mechs aren't being built are because of the legs and balancing issues.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          With equivalent technology, a tracked vehicle is always superior to a Mech unless you spend vastly more money on the Mech

          A tracked vehicle has the following advantages over a Mech

          1. Lower height profile, better distribution of thermal signature and smaller radar return. Tracked vehicles probably offer better noise management as well.
          2. Wider distribution of weight resulting in lower ground pressure.
          3. A more stable firing platform allowing for a more recoil intensive gun to be mounted and timely, accurate followup shots and superior ability to fire on the move.
          4. Compact shape allows for better armour distribution and sloping, so you get more protection for less armor.
          5. Higher speed and agility than a bipedal design over almost all terrain types
          6. Less sophisticated (and thus more reliable) and more cost effective means of locomotion that can be repaired or replaced simply and in the field.

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9229068/

          We are having a massive influx of people with disabilities due the war, if anything there is going to be major pushes for more advanced robotics and neural systems, the line between infantry and IFV is going to blur to the point you got a machine with the advantages of both combined.

          https://i.imgur.com/wd6uTkk.png

          A mech that has any kind of armor would have very high ground pressure, they would sink into mud or sand and likely destroy roads and concrete.

          They are also going to be slower than tanks or wheeled vehicles realistically and because they are so large they don't really get any mobility advantages from being human shaped.

          https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/top-5-biggest-and-smallest-theropod-dinosaurs

          We have found 8 tons theropods, an evolution was constrained by biological energy sources and lack of access to current age materials

          >low power to weight ratio
          >high fuel consumption
          >high ground pressure
          >low stability
          >highly vulnerable knee joints
          >lacking any reason for them to actually exist in the first place

          BATTERIES
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          there, we can stop having this thread every day

          The "vulnerable knee joints" really apply to any wheeled and tracked vehicle.

          Not saying we may not end with something with more than 2 legs or it's going to be some 50 tons, 10 meters tall machine, but like with tracks there comes a point where advances and industry are so available you can actually afford to make these sort of machines.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nah the biggest reason is that there isn't a power plant sufficient to make them move at anywhere close to the speed of regular tracked or wheeled vehicles
          It's a very inefficient layout when artificial muscle doesn't exist

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just posting this to remind anyone interested of that Gungriffon 2 english patch that's like 98% complete

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit thanks for that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      HMCS sim needs that treatment (and scalable resolution)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wow that looks cool.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    With equivalent technology, a tracked vehicle is always superior to a Mech unless you spend vastly more money on the Mech

    A tracked vehicle has the following advantages over a Mech

    1. Lower height profile, better distribution of thermal signature and smaller radar return. Tracked vehicles probably offer better noise management as well.
    2. Wider distribution of weight resulting in lower ground pressure.
    3. A more stable firing platform allowing for a more recoil intensive gun to be mounted and timely, accurate followup shots and superior ability to fire on the move.
    4. Compact shape allows for better armour distribution and sloping, so you get more protection for less armor.
    5. Higher speed and agility than a bipedal design over almost all terrain types
    6. Less sophisticated (and thus more reliable) and more cost effective means of locomotion that can be repaired or replaced simply and in the field.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One benefit of mini mecha like Armored Troopers is that you can carry them by transport plane.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And drop them from a transport plane.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I really want to watch this and LoGH, but frick moon rune speak. They have the same 3 voices, the deep male voice, the girly boy voice and the screeching woman voice. It's unbearable and anyone who unironically thinks jap VA is good should be shot

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      NGMI

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    anon I'm working on a mecha game right now but they are absolutely pants-on-head moronic in real life. stop asking silly questions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      more info?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I refuse (we have basically nothing in-engine at this point except Titanfall movement)

        also its Source.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nice, good luck. I'm designing my own currently. Mech renaissance will be real.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BATTERIES
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    there, we can stop having this thread every day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Diesel.

    • 1 month ago
      yoink

      just wait my friend. you'll find it

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    itd sink on anything other than concrete or asphalt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      stop posting this dumb bullshit. adult horses exert 500 PSI when running and have tiny contact patches. the ground does not just melt beneath their feet.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no one cares about your maths silly b***h boy

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          tongue my anus Black person not my fault you can't do math

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            lmao looks like someones angry no one cares that they can do basic math

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Horses aren't made from metal, they aren't resistant to small arms fire.
        An M113 weighs 15 times as much as a horse and can be penetrated by anything bigger than 12.7mm.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          including 12.7

  26. 1 month ago
    yoink

    incompetence of industries and no imagination also, ya dont need batteries use diesel or a mini nuclear reactor. we've had those since the 60s. check out the wire taps used in the cold war,some had a reactor as a power source. we can make them.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >low power to weight ratio
    >high fuel consumption
    >high ground pressure
    >low stability
    >highly vulnerable knee joints
    >lacking any reason for them to actually exist in the first place

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >low stability
      As stable as a human, probably more so due to their wider foot print and increased strength

      >vulnerable knee joint
      unlike the open running gear, engines and wings of other fighting vehicles

      >high ground pressure
      Elephants have a lower ground pressure than mountain bikes, you're a moron

      >lacking any reason for them to exist
      A single man vehicle capable of lateral movement while equipped with a 20mm autocannon and missiles with the ability to manipulate objects with robotic limbs, with the ability to enter inside of most human made structures and hide while weighing nearly 10 times less is a far superior recon vehicle than anything currently produced

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >with the ability to enter inside of most human made structures
        No? Do you not know how big most doors are? They're certainly not 12 feet tall.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone happen to know the name of that one mech series that had votom sized mechs except the guys arms stuck out, they were kind of a mix of exoskeletons and a mech almost. I remember watching like one episode thinking this is sweet and then forgot what it was called and never seen it again.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      appleseed probably

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, it wasn't appleseed or the remake those were kinda old compared to it. It wasn't a movie it was a series. This shouldn't be like trying to find that sound track for that one street fighter cartoon movie I know someone knows it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Bubblegum Crisis? The Motoslave was basically a transformable exoskeleton for the hardsuits.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wait, kinda old compared to it, I didn't read.
            How modern are we talking? Obsolete didn't really have exposed arms but they fit the bill of mix between exoskeleton and mecha.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Alternatively it might've been Ghost in the Shell SAC, it essentially borrowed the Appleseed Landmate design for the powered exoskeletons the DEA guys use towards the end of the first season.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I like the aesthetics Shirow Masamune humanoid mechs, but the exposed arms never made sense to me. Never mind getting hit with an actual anti-mech round, a ricochet will absolutely destroy them. They got cyberbrains, so why not tuck the arms inside the torso-armor and control everything with a brain-meld?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I really liked Obsolete's justification for mecha being everywhere- ayy lmaos show up in a spaceship, sell exoskeletons for one ton of limestone each, and refuse to elaborate on anything else. They're not actually that durable and they're mysteriously already a bit beat up when the ayys teleport them in, but they're incredibly cheap, have seemingly unlimited energy, and are controlled via thought.
              This means they're cheaper than a tractor, so not only are they great for farmwork and construction, but you can bolt on some armor plating, optics, and a machinegun to cover all your needs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the kitbashed look with real-world equipment just makes for a really nice aesthetic too

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Don't wanna ahcktually here, but the exos do eventually run out of fuel. It's that cyan liquid that the scientist lady was working on in Area 51.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think they run out. or at least not that I saw. it can leak out, killing the mech. but it doesn't seem to burn it during use. I'm sad it ended. I wanted waaayyyy more explanation than what we got. like that rebel leader dude? the frick was his deal? he was the only one shown to control one of the things while standing in front of it. is the goo like embedded in his face? is that what the scar is? is he a weird alien in disguise?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I just finished this, and holy shit I need more. I really like the take on mecha. even they had to go with magical goop as the reason it works, though.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/ASLlCKc.jpg

              I really liked Obsolete's justification for mecha being everywhere- ayy lmaos show up in a spaceship, sell exoskeletons for one ton of limestone each, and refuse to elaborate on anything else. They're not actually that durable and they're mysteriously already a bit beat up when the ayys teleport them in, but they're incredibly cheap, have seemingly unlimited energy, and are controlled via thought.
              This means they're cheaper than a tractor, so not only are they great for farmwork and construction, but you can bolt on some armor plating, optics, and a machinegun to cover all your needs.

              It may have the worst VA work I've ever heard but it is quite a cool story

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't that suppose to be the charm of it? I listened to the story when I wasted a couple yars ago an episdoe or two while I was drunk and someone likes yeah it's that thing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit, yes. Watch the Sub only!
                But the ways the various factions innovate with the mechs is downright fascinating:
                >Americans pimp the crap out of theirs, up to an including laser-intercept anti-mortar systems

                >African bois take out MBTs and attack helicopters by throwing things at them, including IED acetylene tanks and their own mechs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The dub is impressively bad, yeah.

                https://i.imgur.com/a5mq4wZ.jpg

                Holy shit, yes. Watch the Sub only!
                But the ways the various factions innovate with the mechs is downright fascinating:
                >Americans pimp the crap out of theirs, up to an including laser-intercept anti-mortar systems

                >African bois take out MBTs and attack helicopters by throwing things at them, including IED acetylene tanks and their own mechs.

                It's the most realistic depiction of third-world warfare I've ever seen in media.
                >African warlord has his AK sights set to maximum

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/K5X3Ast.jpg

            Wait, kinda old compared to it, I didn't read.
            How modern are we talking? Obsolete didn't really have exposed arms but they fit the bill of mix between exoskeleton and mecha.

            https://i.imgur.com/HJXv0rp.png

            Alternatively it might've been Ghost in the Shell SAC, it essentially borrowed the Appleseed Landmate design for the powered exoskeletons the DEA guys use towards the end of the first season.

            I got too drunk to read or write last night. Obsolete that's it!! Thank you!! I've been trying to remember what the hell that was called for years now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Obsolete

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What exactly is the difference between a mech and power armor? Some of the images in this thread, I would say are power armor not mech. Mpdg4

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The distinction I've always drawn is that a mech is piloted where power armor is worn.

  30. 1 month ago
    herbs

    You must be at least 18 to post here you homosexual

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Votoms is an old mans series, no zoomer has watched or cared about it.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Electronics are just a theoretical science
    >There aren't viable leg-like hydraulics
    >Power consumption can't allow for such machines
    >walking bipedal robots are not possible with current material science
    >They are too clumsy and unwieldy
    >But can you imagine how hard would it be to program them?
    >Surely bipedal systems will make it easier to attack and APS is still in its infancy
    We are here
    >Yeah but try to make more efficient power systems
    >Cost production will surely be too much aside from some experimental units
    >Infantry with AT weapons will always be cheaper
    No wonder technological breakthroughs are so hard in anything non zoomer fapp related, by this time we should have already be building fusion reactors and orbital ion cannons to kill houthis and assorted subhumans.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A mech that has any kind of armor would have very high ground pressure, they would sink into mud or sand and likely destroy roads and concrete.

    They are also going to be slower than tanks or wheeled vehicles realistically and because they are so large they don't really get any mobility advantages from being human shaped.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >A mech that has any kind of armor would have very high ground pressure, they would sink into mud or sand and likely destroy roads and concrete.
      Hey look it's the ground pressure morons.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ever blow out knees anon?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why's samus there

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        scale, if mobile suits were more ideal.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Per the dimensions of the minovsky -ionesco reactor that powers them(four refrigerators arranged in a square)you can't really make them that small. You need at least that much room for the power source, plus room for the wienerpit. The ultracompact version of the reactor didn't show up until Victory era, and even then the size of the suits didn't decrease that much.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            For Gundam, yes. For the work I am trying to make, reactor is a micro breeder about the size of a volley ball

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              So about the size of an aestivalis from Nadesico? Why not just have them powered the same way the aestis were then?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Familiar with the torus grid theory?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not even a little bit. I sell meat and meat accessories for a living.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There is the antimatter universe just below ours. About 1:10/00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 younger than ours an just as large. Imagine if you will how buffalo meat is layered with its fat. Kinda like that.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sex with my wife Coconna.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >muh knees

    this board is so moronic, the actual weakness of these things is the complexity, cost per crewman, and being restricted to smaller and less powerful guns than tanks due to stability

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >grew up watching live footage of the 2114 European civil war
    >always wanted to be a mech pilot
    >the neo-knightly order of new Europe
    >pass the IQ test with flying colors
    >pass the physical tests no problem
    >first day in the simulator
    >turns out I have epilepsy
    >who knew?
    >immediately disqualified from mech program
    >offer me a position instead as man at arms
    >basically just a glorified pr guy and handler for a real mech pilot
    >22ndcenturysadfrog.nujpg
    >told my mech pilot is mentally unstable and a pr risk i have to be with them 24/7
    >whatever dreams are already crushed
    >fly out to meet my mech pilot
    UOOOOOOOHHHHHH
    This might not be so bad after all!

    P.S. why can't I spoiler images on /k/. Ruined my fricking punchline.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sonny, avoid women like Asuka like the plague, those can't be fixed and no, you want appretiate the factory issues.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I never understood the appeal of getting a broken partner and then trying to fix them. Why not settle for someone nice in the first place?

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why hasnt anyone tried mass assaults by 1-man tankettes? we cant iterate into mechs if the concept of 1-man combat vehicles isnt proven first.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >why hasnt anyone tried mass assaults by 1-man tankettes?
      Mechanix illustrated tried it, but got btfo by the electrical experimenter's electro-gyro-cruiser. Turns out bigger is better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what guns would it have

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because they're not moronic and realize that one guy can't drive, communicate, operate the weapons and maintain situational awareness at the same time.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the biggest reasons these don't exist is 1) the energy density problem: to carry a fuel load that powers the fricker would itself be the weight of a small car, 2) the controls would necessarily be software and computer hardware involved, just to deal with the timing needed to do things like "move arms and legs" with the available sorts of power delivery to that motion- motors and the rest. Currently industrial robots that can be trusted to safely move around humans 100% of the time, don't exist in any sort of popular scale that we can point to. there's exceptions where people do dangerous and often stupid things with robots anyway- that's not this, this has to be grunt-proof enough to give to somebody who's probably going to die using it, but in such a way that it's cost effective to try. that recipe has not yet been cooked.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Something with a human layout but bigger would be best used as an engineering vehicle. You could walk it over shitty terrain and quickly dig fighting positions for tanks and infantry.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Exploration too, a lot of the USA has never been foot surveyed because the terrain and environment is impassable to vehicles or too harsh for humans.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kind of like how some utility and exploration subs have arms?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      BEHOLD. A Mech!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i've always wanted to draw a cool-looking version of these

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/U7NlcYO.jpg

        Behold! The spider mech!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You know that that was essentially a prototype and never mass produced because it’s niche was better filled by existing technologies, right?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, but it also proved the technology could work and wasn't too expensive. Walking Excavators have shown to be a commercial success although a niche one. Most of the issues are maintenance related due to the technology being immature.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              “Walking excavators” don’t actually walk you numpty. They roll. On wheels.

              Also, both them and the Timberjack are slow as frick because the kind of hydraulics you need to do heavy-ish work are slow as frick.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What a coincidence, so does the Scopedog.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Scopedog takes RPG hit anywhere on its limbs
    >polymer ring solution ignites and torso tosses the AT pilot out of the Astragius Galaxy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much. Scopedogs are treated like cannonfodder and sent in en masse. They get killed a lot but succeed due to their excellent firepower and mobility.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Scopedog takes RPG hit anywhere
      fixed

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mechs struggle from three major weaknesses:
    >Difficult to conceal, even our tests with the smaller mechs such as pic related revealed the robot to be too noisy
    >They're maintenance hogs, and when they do get damaged they're harder to repair and get in working order than wheeled or tracked vehicles, as tests with pic related showed
    >They struggle to find a useful role that is worth the aforementioned two drawbacks. Tests with pic related showed that the marines working with it had a hard time finding a way to integrate it into their patrols because it just wasn't worth bringing along most of the time.
    It's very easy to justify why a mech COULD exist and be used, but just because there's a potential role for a vehicle, that doesn't mean it's worth the drawbacks and effort to produce said vehicle. The United States COULD have had a stealth attack helicopter if it had decided to develop the Comanche, but the problems that came with the helicopter wasn't worth the niche role it could provide.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mini is always harder engineering wise. Mechs should be 20ft tall nuclear powered heavy weapons platforms more armored than a tank and as armed as a mainline battleship used mainly for shock assaults. Basically they should be tanks v2. Of course you could just make a nuclear powered tank and load it up the same way, but that's less cool. Now I'm angry that we don't already have nuclear powered tanks though

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Mechs should be 20ft tall nuclear powered heavy weapons platforms more armored than a tank and as armed as a mainline battleship used mainly for shock assaults
        You're never going to get a mech more armored than a tank or more heavily armed than one. There's too much surface area to armor, and it's easier to move with tracks than it is with legs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I resemble that remark.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stabelity issue

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You guys are all dumb dumbs. A "mech suit" or the concept of heavy infantry is not to be looked at as a walking tank that does the job of a tank. Imagine instead a heavily armored infantryman with the ability to carry heavy weapons that a normal infantryman would consider to be way too impractical to impossible to wield. One who is essentially immune to most weapons enemy infantry can dish out, barring specialty weapons such as AT or "anti-mech" weapons. Having something like a MAX suit from Planetside 2, or Spartan armor from Halo, Or some type of suit between Starship troopers and the mechs in Titanfall - Having some monster like that show up to engage lightly armored vehicles and mostly infantry, who can still go mostly where normal infantry can go, now that's a scary fricking thing. A scary fricking thing that can kill a lot and be hard to kill itself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >One who is essentially immune to most weapons enemy infantry can dish out
      That's highly unlikely to say the least. We can already pierce a BTR with a .50 cal, in all likelihood a mech-suit could be pierced with a simple FMJ round.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't know infantrymen walk around with fricking 50's. You absolute dip.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They wouldn't need to, small arms would be sufficient to pierce your mech-suit since it'd onlly be as armored as a humvee if it was lucky.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They wouldn't need to, small arms would be sufficient to pierce your mech-suit since it'd onlly be as armored as a humvee if it was lucky.

          Also there's literally nothing stopping infantrymen from walking around with 50 cals if they need to.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well for one those .50s would be shit against infantry and useless against tanks. It's just more shit to carry when soldiers are already carrying 100 lbs.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The solution is probably 40mm HEDP.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                40mm grenades have an effective range of about 100 meters. The Scopedog carries a 30mm autocannon. Those have effective ranges up to 2000 meters.

                You understand Infantry platoons and their loadouts were not given to us by Moses coming down from the mountain, they are created and configured for current battlefield conditions?

                If mobile, lightly armored mechs became commonplace then we'd just add two extra guys - each carrying half the .50 cal weight then act as a shooter and spotter team.

                Which would mean out of a squad of 10 there's only 1 weapon that would be effective against mechs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it means every single squad has a weapon that can kill your wonderwaffe, and on any notable battlefront there's going to be dozens of those squads, and that's before they just use a radio to call in one of the million other threats on a modern battlefield.
                You are a fricking autistic who thinks a battlefield is a self-contained rectangle like a Warhammer match.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Killing them isn't the problem. Anything can be killed. Tanks can be killed. Planes can be killed. Even Battleships can be killed. Rather, the problem is how much damage they can do before you kill them and in this case a 30mm autocannon with zoom and IR optics can do a lot of fricking damage, more than enough to validate the expense.

                Especially if they're treated like cannon fodder and sent in by the hundreds.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Especially if they're treated like cannon fodder and sent in by the hundreds.
                If I have to choose between 1,000 cheap shitty mechs to be used as fodders and 50 tanks with infantry support that those mechs have no answer to, I'll take the tanks.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >mechs have no answer
                Recoilless rifles for the tanks, 30mm autocannons for the infantry.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Recoilless rifles for the tanks
                They're gonna struggle to pierce the kind of tanks we'd have by that point.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                At that scale the infantry is now a liability and orbital fire support is prioritizing it. Mechs might be more useful against a Planetary Siege Unit than tanks simply because mechs could board one and attack from the inside. A tank could only stand off a Bolo and die pathetically.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Mechs might be more useful against a Planetary Siege Unit than tanks simply because mechs could board one and attack from the inside
                There's a very easy solution to that. Smaller hallways.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                power armor

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Power armor is just infantry.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So obviously you need bigger power armor. Maybe something like a small mech,

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >So obviously you need bigger power armor
                Hallways.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Behold, the ultimate "mech"
                >Can fit in buildings
                >Can go FAST AS FRICK
                >Can carry an insane amount of ordinance
                >Can survive being chewed on by GIANT MONSTERS and shot by HUMANOID ALIENS using super advanced scifi bullshit weapons

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Can carry an insane amount of ordinance
                So he can lawyer ETs to death?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what a gaffe, how will I recover from this?
                Aha, I'll take a lesson from our Russian friends!
                >What post? There was never any post, and if there was, it wasn't mine anyways. The post is clearly made by a Ukranian. The post returned to port under it's own power. Ok so maybe you can prove it's mine, but nobody cares about it anyways. Hey did you hear about the latest US Government's antics?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Gaffe? I thought you were serious! Power armoured lawyers are a terrifying concept.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                E
                D
                EFFFFFFFFFF

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh wrong webm.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                E
                D
                EFFFFFFFFFF

                >the best class is still just a dude who calls in air and artillery support
                war never changes

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's a weird way to describe fencer.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh wrong webm.

                You ready for 6?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh wrong webm.

                >my teammates when I use Barga/Balam in every single mission regardless of the situation

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >me using barga to solo the rest of the mission 15 minutes after my teammates die to airstrikes/arillery

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The hallways will be widened by force.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                pfft

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                For me, it's the Fatboy. (That's it over on the right, or at least the front end of it.)
                Well actually it's the Megalith because CYBRAN GANG but the Fatboy is the one that's got proper tank treads, even if the Megalith is more tank-like in it's use compared to the Fatboy's "mobile artillery barrage")

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah. Like how there's only a couple guys that can be effective against tanks.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You understand Infantry platoons and their loadouts were not given to us by Moses coming down from the mountain, they are created and configured for current battlefield conditions?

              If mobile, lightly armored mechs became commonplace then we'd just add two extra guys - each carrying half the .50 cal weight then act as a shooter and spotter team.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i'd like the MAX suit if it was more of a vehicle
      getting the light assault jetpack glitch on it sorta evokes that feel but that's also kind of a b***h-ass move

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      obsolete is the example here too. the mech thing's big advantage is basically glorified pack mules. same as infantry. their main armament are m2s, and the big game changer on battlefields with them is a 120mm mortars are now squad level. which doesn't sound like a lot, but that's a massive game changer.

    • 1 month ago
      yoink

      thank you brother! thats what i've been thinkin. also, we don't need a huge Gundam, instead we already have powered exo-skeletons right? just beef one up a bunch,strap a Barrett to one arm and a grenade launcher to the other and bam! you got a pretty good scopedog-like suit

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Japan has teleoperated railway maintenance mech

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's cool as hell

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzHsPgnQ26Y

      I am autistic and I really like how cool Japans railway system is and how it works, both technologically and organizationally.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's fricking wild.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the opening automatically play in my brain!

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >too expensive. would cost as much as a 6th gen stealth aircraft >$300m
    >too vulnerable to modern ATGM and even cheap rpgs

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >rollerskating mechs
    That's they gayest fricking interpretation of a battle mech I've ever seen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's far more interesting than "Actually a tank with legs" or "100 ton walking target" or "Please don't shoot me in the knees" or "it took us over 500 years to realize that physical shields to protect our CTs are a good idea"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Please don't shoot me in the knees
        Where does this gay meme come from? Has nobody ever looked at a tank's tracks?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's mostly because BT mechs are so big and slow. Tank treads are so low to the ground that they're hard to hit while VOTOMs are fast as frick and Mobile Suits are designed for orbit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It's mostly because BT mechs are so big and slow
            Battletech mechs aren't slow at all, the lighter mechs can go faster than 130 mph, and even the Atlas is faster than an Abrams tank.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The RX-78-2 is a 60 tonner with a max landspeed of 165 km/h and 4 jump jets. BT mechs are positively turtle-like by comparison.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Gumdumbs are typically 20m tall, while the largest mechs in battletech are 10-12m tall, which makes their relative speed to size ratio somewhere between the same to much, much slower than a battle tech mech.
                But I mean, gundumbs are so light for their surface area that they would be constantly struggling not to get blown away by a breeze, let alone the sorts of strong winds that you get in a cityscape.

                https://i.imgur.com/F5hwXde.jpg

                What a coincidence, so does the Scopedog.

                Probably the least plausible thing about scope dogs is their ability to use those dinky, recessed wheels to move a biped without immediately getting bogged or tripping over.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Probably the least plausible thing about scope dogs is their ability to use those dinky, recessed wheels to move
                Also the best thing about them, it's a cool design on its own but them skating around is what puts it above the zaku and other mechs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >marauder
                >phoenix hawk
                >warhammer
                >archer
                >longbow
                >rifleman
                >stinger
                Did I miss any from this pic?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Can we just be fair about this and admit it's core is a fighter jet and the legs/arms were just stuck on for convenience. You might as well use robotech as a reason for why fighter jets can walk around. Battle tech is about why mechs are fricking cool and then ruins it with clan shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No. Because BT mechs are Boring. They walk, they shoot, and that's it. Melee is rare and many battlemechs don't even have arms and the majority of battlemechs don't have jump jets so it's all strictly surface warfare.

                What's so good about it? Just get a fancier tank.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mobile suits are space craft first, they were adapted to atmosphere later. One of the reasons zeon got bogged down on earth; the zakus were made to operate in space, so that and the feddies superior numbers stalemate the conflict long enough for the GM to be developed, once that happened it was all over for zeon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Can we just be fair about this and admit it's core is a fighter jet and the legs/arms were just stuck on for convenience. You might as well use robotech as a reason for why fighter jets can walk around. Battle tech is about why mechs are fricking cool and then ruins it with clan shit.

                Gundams would actually appear subjectively quite slow since they're so big relative to their objective speed. Based on the official numbers, a human sized gundum's top speed would be ~15km/hr which is a jog, whereas a scaled down battletech light mech would move at 25km/hr, which is a respectable sprint for a non-athlete but nowhere near super human and generally a pretty easy moving target.

                Obviously these sorts of numbers are just bullshit that someone associated with production pulled out of their arse one time and both gundums and battlemechs are portrayed as moving much, much faster than their alleged top speeds and acceleration would have you believe. For instance, the RX-78-2 can officially only pull 0.93G of acceleration, which would make it look like it was walking/flying through glue if it was portrayed realistically.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i'm not sure either
          scopedogs have knee armor but it's not like battemechs don't

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because we already have ifvs and they are cheaper and harder to kill?

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw that sound when ATs skate around
    That's the stuff

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      WHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRR
      VROOOOM

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Make cool bipedal mech with guns and shit
    >It sinks to the ground
    >Try to cross a bridge with cool bipedal mech
    >The bridge collapses
    >Go fighting on concrete with your cool bipedal mech
    >Take a glancing blow to one of the joints and you can't do anything anymore

    What actual advantages would those bipedal mechs have?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Legs perform better than wheels on soft or jagged ground. For wheels and treads, sinking into the mud is a Bad Thing because you need to climb out of that mud to move forwards. This combined with the reduced friction of the mud is how you get stuck in the mud. For legs, sinking into the mud just means you need to lift the feet a bit higher when you walk. Ground pressure is now a benefit because it compresses the soil, causing it to be firmer.

      Throw some wheels on the feet and it's really no different than a motorcycle. Shift the stance to keep balance.

      The arms, however, are the real selling point. You can use them to reload weapons, resupply vehicles, remove obstacles, drag wrecks, move supplies, dig trenches, pile sandbags, place mines, or even hold guns. Sure, specialist vehicles could do it better but if you're packing for an invasion then every ton matters and wasting tons on a machine that does a single job is wasteful.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You do not want to break the surface of the mud, even if you have legs. You are not just trying to lift your leg out of the mud, but also any mud the leg is bringing with it. At the same time, all the force is going to the leg you aren't moving. There is a reason things like mudders and snowshoes exist, and thats to keep you on top

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The way those mechs move is pretty neat, I can see where the movement animations from Armored Core took their inspiration from. Verification not required.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Square cube law.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >12 feet

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only place combat mecha might make sense is in space, when we eventually have to defend orbital colonies

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >mechs would just sink into the ground bro
    >even small ones would
    >muh square cube law
    >it's LITERALLY impossible
    >there's no way it could be done
    The GLORIOUS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA had a mech prototype in the 1950s and we've had 70 years to advance it. Cope and seethe, we'll have votoms on mars.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the furrion prototype is actually one of the cooler examples since it has small feet and doesn't magically fall through the floor
      sure it's an unironic knuckle-dragger but i think it still gets the point across

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah it's like these morons don't even realise hexapedal mechs are already used for logging

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Speaking of multi-peds, how about a Tachkoma?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          they look neat

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Best mech coming through

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      'Outnumbered 3 to 1, ammo systems nominal'

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ogre-chan my beloved

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >$200 RPG to the leg
    >"200,000 million down the drain
    oopsey-doodles

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're right, we shouldn't use tanks anymore for the same reason, bullets also hard counter infantry so we should all just stay at home with our thumbs up our asses.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tanks don't have exposed joints and a $200 RPG isn't going to take one out. These "gotchas" you concocted in your head are really dull.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You wouldn't need a $200 RPG to take out of those out tbh, even an American version of a VOTOM could be taken out by a .50 cal, and a Russian or Chinese version would be taken out by 5.56

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          By that rational we shouldn't have humvees.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Using humvees en masse against any competent opposition will get them instantly wiped out and probably whoever ordered something so stupid court-martialed.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Doesn't know about the Toyota War.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The more moving parts something has, the more frustrating maintaining it is gonna be.
    Even if you have magic zero friction joints with godlike armor, *something* will break or get blown to shit and your big walker needs to get fixed up.
    When it does, it'll be more of a pain in the ass to fix in both the field and the hangar.
    Shit man, think about trying to repair a mecha's knees.

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    these things are basically just walking Bradley's

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >these things are basically just walking Bradley's
      Except without the ability to carry infantry.

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    soapy water. thats it. just pour some soapy water and youve defeated any mech

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >stairs, its an issue. oh, and doorways, we need something that can enter doorways, and traverse stairs
    >....what if we hit the building with a bomb

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do none of you morons watch Boston Dynamics videos?
    They are literally the cutting edge (that we are being shown.) And they answer all your questions.
    Why? Because you have to be able to make a robot before you make a mech. The 'suit' is basically a smartphone because of all it needs to do to stay upright.
    Frick the power supply issue, we need to make them to stand up first.
    There are endless numbers of videos covering this topic. Go find them.

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why having such a weak, vulnerable bipedal machine when you can have an all-terrain, six legged, perpendicular climbing, jumping spider tank?
    https://iv.nboeck.de/watch?v=srPIbM35qfo

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "MELLOWLINK could be here", he thought. "I've never been deployed to this planet before, MELLOWLINK could be anywhere.". The harsh desert winds whipped against his AT's sensor array. "I HATE MELLOWLINK" he thought. Killing in the Name Of reverberated his entire wienerpit, making it pulsate even as the moronic magic hydraulic fluid flushed through his powerful war machine and washed away his (merited) fear of AT Hunters after dark. "With an AT, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >AT RIFLE NOISE

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gilgamesh or Balarant?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gilgamesh, they kind of ruined the mystique and made them jobbers in the ovas but you cant beat the red shoulders being flamethrowing, civilian gassing death squads.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Balarant is full of fatties

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      gilgamesh for sure, rocket rifles are just really fricking gay.

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there any reason we don't already have these?
    Because the technology isn't there.

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No good way to power them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We have not yet invented a small, high-power battery that can accomplish this.

      Who needs batteries? Power the machine with a turbine generator.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Turbine generators are big and heavy

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >walks out to the fields
    >stucks in the mud forever
    >tries to fight in cities only
    >500$ FPW drone with a strapped on RPG round zips in and makes kaboom
    Mechagays on suicide watch

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't do anything that an exosuit doesn't already do. That armor is so thin that it could be pierced by light arms like armor-piercing 5.56 rounds. And the heavy weapons its carrying? Not enough ammo for them to stay on the battlefield for any extended duration. And you're paying much more for them to boot, and they're less concealable, and they're bigger targets, and they can't take cover inside a house or most buildings.

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Cost of maintenance
    >Cost of development
    >Lack of suitable warzones where this would be more economically viable

    Only way I see these things in combat is in space or in unihabitable planets.

    The only ones that might work are spider based ones where they can carry more than an average IFV.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Favorite VOTOMS arc?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like everyone says Kunmen and at the same time thinks Sunsa was kinda dull

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sunsa had its moments, I think the whole bit of Chirico going through air filters on a trek through the desert was great. I'll admit I really don't remember much of it past the whole Jijirium hunt though.
        The OVA during the arc is great at least, Big Battle was easily the best of the OVAs outside of Mellowlink.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Between Kummen or Quent, for me.
      I really like the whole clusterfrick on Quent of Gilgamesh, Balarant, and the secret society weirdos all scrambling for the prize while people defect back and forth.

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Easy answer is they're powered by ringer solution that allows the engine to generate enough energy to move them and we don't have that

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