Has a scifi movie/show ever showed a powerful, yet small and lightweight gun? The only example I can think of is the tiny Men in Black gun. Always annoys me how people think futuristic guns are supposed to be ridiculously bulky instead.
Has a scifi movie/show ever showed a powerful, yet small and lightweight gun?
Patrick Batemans Glock blows up a car. But he is delusional, so it could have been a dream.
>Glock
>blows up
no, sounds about right
>But he is delusional, so it could have been a dream.
He's not delusional and it's not a dream. Bateman isn't losing his grasp on reality. The whole of the late 80s were a period of profound unreality.
This is just what things were like back then
Cars didn’t blow up after being shot once in the ‘80s.
They didn't have as many safety standards back then.
"You don't photograph the reality, you photograph the photograph of reality."
The trope is an exaggeration of the inverse of reality, how do you not see that? Why does yhe smallesy, shortest gremlin in the squad get the 249?
For the goddamn lulz you twatmuffin.
>Why does yhe smallesy, shortest gremlin in the squad get the 249?
Because if you have the 6'3 musclehead the 249 he wouldn't fit in the APC. Man lets get big guns because the overall volume averages out to a big man with a small carbine
My brother told me when he served, he got issued an saw
He says it's the best thing ever made
Calm down Don DeLillo
That's an interesting point. Even in freaking scifi books, forget about movies, I can only remember a couple of super interesting "ultra compact powerful guns/blasters".
If for show you'll accept anime, then the not-so-good-but-pretty single movie adaption of BLAME! show cased the graviton beam emitter the protag has, which is the only other visual gun I can think of that is very small but quite powerful.
what happens if you shoot two GBErs directly into each other
There's newer two in existence simultaneously.
But well, considering they are something-something graviton, I would assume that they work through some kind of gravitational compression and so, two equal beams directly opposing each other would probably collapse into a micro blackhole, or macro.
Sanakan and Killy shoot at each other multiple times I think, for sure in ch32
picrel
followed by massive explosion
Pinhead weapons in Revelation Space. Anti-matter grains that can be contained in literally the head of a pin. Plenty of ways to deliver them.
The trailer for Blame! in the Sidonia anime had a much more satisfying "feel" to the GBE than the one in the movie.
God that CGI always looks like such untrammeled dogshit.
Sidonia fricking sucked, hey I've got a great idea lets have a ten mile long penis that makes squeaky balloon noises whenever it moves join the cast, and lets have it never shut the frick up.
I barely remember anything bout the movie except for that it took place in fisherman village and that aside from a handful of interesting visuals that were clearly somebody's baby, it dropped the ball.
The emotions Blame! gives are very particular. It's rarely paced quickly and its epic moments are few and far between. Most of the time, it's a sad romp through an oppressively huge, lonesome, and alien world. It's unique among manga. Making it an anime is a mistake to begin with, the tropes and pretensions of anime don't belong in Nihei's work and whenever he starts introducing them, it starts sucking ass.
when scifi goes to tiny weapons it ceases to make them handheld. instead they become environmental, or biological implants, part of the clothing you wear, shit like that.
the tiny weapon that you still want to hold in your hands is pretty niche.
James bond shot people with his cigarettes sometimes though
The glory of the Yamato Cannon/Macross Cannon in the convenient package of a Walther PPk.
It's been theorised, that, rather than directly generating gravity, Killy's weapon actually temporarily and selectively turns off the City's artificial gravity control, and, considering that the City is a single structure the size of the solar system, lets its natural mass tear the target apart.
Maybe if you’re nice to will he will wipe the tears from your eyes and smack the cum from your lips
Mutt’s law
Fiction generally doesn't portray smaller, more carryable guns much and generally focuses on service size handguns at the smallest. Notable exceptions being J frames, and derringers in anything pertaining to the Old West (although those mainly show up for the "look at how wild it was" effect when you need to give a gun to absolutely everyone).
Star Trek, there is a rifle phaser, but considering the hand-held version can disintegrate a person in seconds, I don't see its purpose.
Phaser is the perfect example of OP's theme. A little TV remote that instantly vaporizes people really seems like the perfect future weapon.
remember that episode of DS9 when O'Brian goes mental because somebody injected his brain with 30 years of prison time and he goes insane and thus goes to take his own life. In that scene he has set the phaser to the maximum setting AND on a wide beam. If he fired it, he would have taken out the entire habitation section of the station.
People forget how stupidly powerful phasers are on the highest setting. As far as I know, phaser rifles were just able to be even more powerful than the handheld ones, but they never needed to go to that level and it burned shit out quicky or some shit. I forget why.
phaser rifles were for the borg's ability to modulate their shields
Borg?
Imagine if it turns out the military had working laser guns like that way back in the 50s but didnt release it, like the sr71 GPS was around in the 50s but wasnt made public until the 90s
Bob Lazar said usa had energy weapons from aliens back in the 1908
I remember the old Star Trek Technical Manual gave the highest setting of a phaser as "major geological disturbance" or something as ridiculous.
Oh, here we go...
https://www.phasers.net/2360/settings.htm
>Catastrophic geological displacement, as approximately 650 m3 of rock (of average density 6.0 g/cm3) is explosively decoupled by a single discharge
Trekkies wank their power levels as much as Warhammer 40K kiddies...
>The standard level 16 setting on a type 2 phaser could be used to vaporize tunnels through rock large enough to crawl through. (TNG: "Chain Of Command, Part I") The level 16 wide-field setting could easily destroy half of a large building with a single shot. (TNG: "Frame of Mind")
Look, trying to find some consistent pattern to weapon yields in Sci Fi is an exercise in infinite futility.
You want to know the reason they use the rifles? It's because a phaser can only burn a little hole in someone the size of a golfball. Want to know why they're not using the rifles now? It's because a phaser the size of your thumb can instantly vaporize ten tons of rock.
Look now they're hiding behind dirt and crates. Now they're blowing up entire squads with one shot from a pistol. If you wish really hard maybe you can pretend that every dipshit who got killed in a shootout had forgotten his gun had an "instant win" button and forget about that scene where a borg sphere launched ten torpedoes the size of small cars at a trailer park and achieved less damage than a broadside from the HMS victory.
The simpler answer is all trekkies should kill themselves for the crime of simping across the internet for such a garbage franchise.
My personal theory has always been the mega-frick setting on the phasers is just disabling the safety and having a constantly increasing chance of something going wrong depending on how long you fire it. Then, the rifle could be explained as an in-situ logical upgrade for the phaser as something that could maintain higher power settings for longer, or indefinitely, or they're entirely set up to hold a psychological impact. That psychological impact could be designed to work on the USER(and allies) rather than the target, as having something that looks relatively big and impressive that fires big loud bang quick is genuinely a solid way to get combatants to fight more and dither less. I don't think I'd be very confident in shooting at some horrifying abomination skittering down the hall like some SCP, killing everyone with something that looks like a 70's phone handset, but give me a rifle with a bunch of fanfare and now I might try holding the trigger down to make the bad thing go away.
The problem is this explanation requires everyone to be moronic.
specifically which part of it is most moronic? It sounds perfectly reasonable to me that a bunch of twink space nerds would be moronic when it comes to ground combat with small arms. You wouldn't really expect aircraft carrier flight deck operators to have good ideas about that shit unless they were for some reason personally interested in being autistic about weapons, why would they? If it needs to be dead, flatten it from space, if it doesn't need to be dead, knock it out.
Because of the scale involved. You're not talking about flight deck operators not knowing the ins and outs of small arms in excruciating detail, you're talking about putting a service rifle in the hands of one of those deck operators, loosing a bear on him, and not being surprised when he tries to hurl the rifle at the bear like a spear.
>that scene where a borg sphere launched ten torpedoes the size of small cars at a trailer park and achieved less damage than a broadside from the HMS victory.
That one's at least explainable in that the borg torpedoes are energy weapons designed for space, and that passing through the atmosphere strips them of much of their destructive potential.
>That one's at least explainable in that the borg torpedoes are energy weapons designed for space
Bullshit though because they've assimilated whole worlds, and a TNG episode where they visited the site of a Borg attack showed a crater the size of the Grand Canyon
Presumably the large cube that did that had access to a weapon the small escape sphere in First Contact did not. Remember the sphere in that film was the borg equivalent of a life raft, makes sense it would have less powerful weaponry.
What you're suggesting is that the Borg Sphere larger than many full scale federation ships by mass could not bombard a planet with similar levels of energy per shot as a federation phaser small enough to fit in your butthole.
>the tiny Men in Black gun
Its name is The Noisy Cricket and you will show it the respect it deserves.
Space Pirate Cobra, if you're talking hand guns, Resident evil games too for revovlers again.
Will Smith is an honorary white
A white man wouldn't have a homie moment and slap someone on live international TV
is it not okay to slap a black man?
Hug your little sister right now
But a cracker would.
Not since the slap.
Not since he let her wife to frick other men
He is a cuck
Most cucks are white. I'd argue a solid 75% atleast. I wonder if there's actual statistics on that though
>Let his wife to frick other men
>no n no will is not a cuck becuse he is not white! most cucks are white!
stop watching porn moron
It's almost as if we've been conditioned by a century of KKK propaganda to be obsessed with black dicks and white women.
>Most cucks are white. I'd argue a solid 75% atleast.
Russians aren't white, they're Black folk made lighter by accident.
>Not since he let her wife to frick other men
>He is a cuck
So he's especially honorary white now
>Has a scifi movie/show ever showed a powerful, yet small and lightweight gun?
Is stargate just an elaborate advertising campaign to shill the P90?
I read somewhere they just chose the gun to look futuristic.
Or maybe it was because they had a cheap stock of ammo for it? I don't really remember
>Or maybe it was because they had a cheap stock of ammo for it? I don't really remember
5.7x28 blanks were never cheap.
>futuristic
That and the fact that the P90s eject downwards. I remember reading this in an interview with Tapping. Apparently they had problems with the MP5s they used before since they hit each other with the brass all the time.
The Noisy Cricket always made me think of the little gun in the first chapter of Snow Crash. Or vice versa.
>When they gave him the job, they gave him a gun. The Deliverator never deals in cash, but someone might come after him anyway–might want his car, or his cargo. The gun is a tiny, aero-styled, lightweight, the kind of a gun a fashion designer would carry; it fires teensy darts that fly at five times the velocity of an SR-71 spy plane, and when you get done using it, you have to plug it in to the cigarette lighter, because it runs on electricity.
Can’t remember where I read it but I believe they said that snow crash specifically inspired the noisy cricket.
Al’s hi5 based Stephenson enjoyer.
Man snow crash was kino
It takes a certain level of writing skill to name your main character “hiro protagonist” unironically and not have me hate it…. I still laugh at the mental image of the mafia boss trying to skateboard….
the golden gun super in destiny if you count games
Babylon 5 PPGs were pretty compact, and seemed reasonably powerful.
>Has a scifi movie/show ever showed a powerful, yet small and lightweight gun?
shitloads. all the time.
Flash Gordon had an energy pistol in the 1930s that could disintegrate a body. Han Solo had a pistol that could go through hard armor and energy shields
>Han Solo had a pistol that could go through hard armor and energy shields
This armor?
Is that from Nu Wars? Those gays literally turned stormtrooper effect memes into canon.
There have always been depictions like that across every decade, please don't kid yourself it's embarrassing.
The stopped using Type 1 phasers on Star Trek because they were so small that sometimes the audience couldn't tell the actor was holding something in the scene.
Technically 'Judge Dredd' was more faithful to the Lawgiver concept than 'Dredd', on the basis that it was meant to be tiny and goofy, the antithesis of what comic depictions of firearms were supposed to be.
>on the basis that it was meant to be tiny and goofy
THe frick are you on about? The Stallone Lawgiver was way bigger and bulkier than the 3D lawgiver (which was just a pimped-up Glock), and both deviated from the original comic Lawgiver which was not tiny at all.
>THe frick are you on about? The Stallone Lawgiver was way bigger and bulkier than the 3D lawgiver (which was just a pimped-up Glock), and both deviated from the original comic Lawgiver which was not tiny at all.
The best lawgiver is in judge dredd Vs judge death
The first two guns in Gantz are like large pistols but they can blow up anything from the inside or send them away to space, respectively
Based
Salma Hayek was such a fricking smoke show I need to watch that movie again
>futuristic guns are supposed to be ridiculously bulky
Think about it, that makes complete sense
>people have exoskeletons/genetic changes
>more able to handle weight and bulk
>have to fight aliens or cyborgs so you need more power
>all else being equal a bigger gun can pretty much always be made more powerful with any given tech
That said in the short term it's moronic, as long as we're using gunpowder our cartridges and guns will get smaller.
95% of shows have no strength enchantments whatsoever. It's just big=good Grug's thinking.
>have to fight aliens or cyborgs so you need more power
You made up this implication. Maybe aliens are just race of space onions consumers,so they are much weaker than average human.
God that would be funny. Aliens land in at the UN and are dressed in Marvel merch and tell us the galactic community is shunning us because we're too racist. They reveal they're simps for Earth's entertainment and demand Kathleen Kennedy gets a star wars trilogy for just Rey or they'll blow the planet up.
>we're too racist
Earth gonna be like space Africa, we are moronic but physically capable, so aliens will try to smuggle us as a cheap labour force and then blame everyone who against it that they are racists.
Aliens want us to fight their wars for them. Humans are quite simply the best and most aggressive soldiers and general the universe has ever seen. But they're too afraid of us as we are, they need a way to control us securely, but not have us lose our fighting edge that makes us valuable.
Thus all the experimentation. I know this to be true, I have seen the evidence. The CIA knows that I know too and everytime I manage to find something, my PC and house gets turned over, and the evidence deleted.
They frick with me in other ways too, like I always know where I leave things, so they go in while I'm out and move shit around. I always leave my toohbursh to the right side of my toothpaste. Always to the right. Never to the left. And yet sometimes when they are tidying up they leave it to the left? Are they fricking up or just fricking with me? Suspect the latter. Sometimes they even move my whole address. They've moved my entire house to a new address, so that when I come back from work, my house is somewhere else and a different house is there. Satnav takes me to a different location and my house is there. They are literally moving my entire house, every brick and slab, every plant, even the lawn. This can only be accomplished in the time frame they have with advanced alien technologies. They must also have access to some kind of crude mind control, because nobody else seems to notice either. Presumably that's too crude for their purposes though, I've noticed that repeat uses on my neighbors has made them... duller, less human than they were. Their eyes don't have the spark they used to, they're glazed over. How many times have they used it one me I wonder? And why? What's their plan? Am I immune or is this common? The prevalence of glowies gangstalking people suggests common. What do they want?
>are supposed to be ridiculously bulky instead.
That burger midwit thinking.
Larger=better. Everything in US is XXXXL size. Burgers, soft drink caps, cars, mac mansions, etc.
1) you're moronic
2) real american guns keep getting more compact, sometimes to the point of becoming just flat out unpleasant to use
cut him some slack, the seething third worlder will never own a gun.
Real guns follow real world usability.
Pulp fiction authors don't, they just follow go big formula. And this formula describes America.
>BIGGULP-SuperJumbo.jpg
>SIRS, IS THAT 32 ENTIRE IMPERIAL OUNCES OF THE FLUID?!? AAAAAHHHHH I'M BEING REDEEMED, DALITMAN SAVE MEEEEE!!!
why do third worlders and shitskins get shocked at americans having more than enough food to eat? Do they believe their countries propaganda about America running out of food because they are not lifting sanctions, only for them to cope when they see American food portion sizes? Is the rest of the world really so starved?
Anon, the food size portions in America are nothing to be proud of. What's worse is when they start becoming the standard elsewhere.
Used to be able to buy a normal size bag of crisps as a snack, now everywhere is selling 'grab bags' instead as the goto option.
>REEE YOU SHOULDN'T BE PROUD OF NOT STARVING
non americans are really weird. A society thrives on abundance of food
You might be stupid, there's varying degrees between
>Starving
and
>Chronic overindulgence
Obesity numbers look way better when you cut out the black women and mexican men lol. they've both got double the rate of everyone else.
>ten thousand 1 liter and 2 liter bottles of soda on the shelf
>No reaction
>buy a 32oz fountain soda that's half ice
>ABLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHAAAAAA AMERICA AMERICA AAAAA
Quiet the worms inside your brain long enough to get the frick off this board, noguns.
Do you sit there and drink an entire litre bottle of soda by yourself.
You've never had two or three cans of soda in one day before? Not at a party, a trip, a picnic or something? Do you also think drinking three cans of beer is something outrageous in your shithole country?
Why am I even talking to you, you don't have a gun.
Guns don't really protect against heart disease or early-onset diabetes anon, they aren't a related subject.
so you're admitting you're off-topic posting, then?
Maybe we should ask if you're under the age of 18 so you can really get a hard b&
I'm simply pointing out your (lack of) argument is nonsensical, no amount of guns in a collection will solve a bad diet.
Also neither am I the one "off-topic" posting here since I replied to someone else talking about the subject in the first place.
I'm not even that guy. This is /k/. Talk about weapons or frick off back to PrepHole.
>no amount of guns in a collection will solve a bad diet.
No amount of noguns gaygoid gibbering will amount to a single word worth listening to, go back where you came from.
Regular anal sex leads to an exponentially higher risk of early life permanent incontinence, but that's never stopped you.
This is /k/ you eurotrash, no gun, no opinion.
Yes they do, you can't get that shit if you're shot dead
It's not 30' anymore grandpa, everywhere outside of the most desperate 3rd world is more than enough food, and in most of the world it even costs significantly less than in America. American portions are just made to turn you into a landwhale and americans think that it is normal somehow.
Post gun
> in most of the world it even costs significantly less than in America
In absolute terms sure, in the same sense that a hooker in the central african republic might cost five dollars.
In purchasing power terms, no, America numbah wan as always.
>seething about americans for no reason
Why do you do so?
fiction in general is not written by people who have a strong grasp of weapon knowledge , so usually bigger=better and the less practical it is the more stronger it is
>fiction in general is not written by people who have a strong grasp of weapon knowledge , so usually bigger=better and the less practical it is the more stronger it is
You do realize it's also a matter of self-consistency?
If your gun can shoot energy bullet thingy for days without needing recharge, bulky is an acceptable price.
If your gun can make instant tunnel in mountain, good luck trying to make your setting look self-consistent.
I think it depends. Inconsistency is a killer but there are many ways to get people to forgive you if only you can shepherd their attention around.
If you go full comedy, sure, have your alien disintegrator pistol.
If wanted serious, and I'm saying that as Soft-SF serious, that's stuff that make you drop a story. "What's the point? the author is just gonna make shitty gadget to save the day."
That's part of why you need to keep any SF teleporter within limit.
>bulky is an acceptable price.
>yes its bulky but think about firepower!
>battle rifle gays BTFO!
Star Trek phasers
>the utter horror at realizing you are now breathing the person who was standing there a second ago
I'm moronic, clicked the wrong file.
Star Trek is cool. Everyone is wearing blankets and it's comfy, there's a warm hum in the background and stars passing by the window, there's a therapist on board the ship, and when they use the phasers somebody gets completely vaporized.
Except for the times when instead of vaporizing you it melts your face flesh off before making your head explode
I always thought that was because the alien parasites made Remmick unusually resistant to phasers.
they didn't use it on max setting on him which was weird.
GIF for extra juiciness...
Phasers in Star Trek are especially funny because murder in that world would be insanely easy. There'd be no body left over at all. I'm sure there's some bullshit argument that a tricorder could detect leftover organic compounds indicating a human was there, I suppose, but the people would have to be aware enough of the suspected murder site to check.
Sensors are pretty much everywhere in the future. A person firing a phaser anywhere inside the solar system is going to get detected.
Murder is still easy, but you've gotta do some work to either lure your victim into deep space or hide your act from planet spanning sensor grids.
More importantly though, people are kind of just trusted with that kind of power. Humanity is supposedly beyond killing for greed, passion, impulse or mental illness.
Also they don't really have a choice. The technology exists and is easy to replicate.
The only options you have are to either have a society that trusts its people to be better, the Federation,
a society that aggressively monitors the actions of its citizens to prevent unwanted murders, the Romulans,
a society that pushes obedience to the state to near brainwashing levels, the Cardassians,
or a society that gives no fricks to people getting killed and recommends killing back harder; the Klingons.
It's kind of weird to think that, once firepower gets sufficiently advanced, the only options society will have to adapt to that new reality will be either learn to be better people or accept that society is going to get worse.
homie there are several episodes where exactly that happens
Name five
Starfleet is a totalitarian closed society with 100% surveillance of all personnel, so undetected murder is frankly impossible except under very rare circumstances
Yes we all saw that incorrect Game Theory bullshit.
>that incorrect Game Theory bullshit.
That's been star trek lore since the BBS days, n00b. All those Theory channels steal ideas
It's certifiably false to anyone who's actually seen the series. There are privately owned ships everywhere.
>There are privately owned ships everywhere.
not in Starfleet
In the federation, owned by humans.
Starfleet and the federation are not one and the same. Shit, colonies are even allowed to quit the federation, and it's not even a long involved process, they can just declare they're not in the federation and join an alien empire.
Did you know that before Men in Black was made, there was an anime movie where a group of agents in black suits called the Black Guards managed the peace between humans and otherworldly aliens living amongst them, with a protagonist with darker skin than everyone else, with a pistol that throws him backwards when he fires it, a grumpy older partner, a foul mouthed little gremlin informant, a villain who's a huge monster hiding in human skin, and a random plot point where a horrifying squid birth has to be managed on the side of the road?
It has a lot more rape in it.
The demon chick agent in Wicked City literally existed to be raped/molested. Its ridiculous how many times it occurs over the course of the movie.
It's funny because as a like... John Carpenter THING monster almost completely inured to all trauma, she often had almost no reaction. As I recall once she literally just lies there waiting and then decapitates the other monster afterwards. Like at a certain point why even bother raping your enemy when it's not even registering as torture.
wicked city is so /k/ino it's unreal
Have you seen Twilight of the Dark master? The Dub has a lot of personality and I dont mean that ironically.
Second smallest gun in the game, probably the most dangerous
Saints Row 4 had a weapon (hidden in a secret area) that was a tiny pistol which was functionally an RPG with ammo that recharged over time.
It was fairly explicitly a reference to the Noisy Cricket, though.
There was a sci-fi novel (by Niven maybe?) with a handgun type of weapon that shot anti-matter bullets that could wipe out a continent. Pretty sure anti-matter doesn’t work that way though.
an antimatter bullet would be fairly devastating, I'm not sure it would be that devastating though. It wouldn't be something you'd ever want to fire, though.
When antimatter meets matter they annihilate each other, releasing 100% of the equivalent energy to both the antimatter and matter's mass. For comparison, the most efficient thermonuclear warheads in existence release about 1% of their mass as energy.
per Wikipedia:
>Annihilation requires and converts exactly equal masses of antimatter and matter by the collision which releases the entire mass-energy of both, which for 1 gram is ~9×1013 joules. Using the convention that 1 kiloton TNT equivalent = 4.184×1012 joules (or one trillion calories of energy), one half gram of antimatter reacting with one half gram of ordinary matter (one gram total) results in 21.5 kilotons-equivalent of energy (the same as the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki in 1945). [3]
For the record, this annihilation would begin when the antimatter hit ANY matter, not just a 'solid' thing like a human body. Air would suffice.
So yeah, firing antimatter out of a handgun would be roughly equivalent to setting off a nuclear bomb on your own dick. But you'd still need an absolute frickload of it to even put a dent in the earth.
>create extremely small unpowered antimatter retention vaccum chamber with magnets
>insert into lead slug
>load into cartridge
>chamber destroyed on impact
>antimatter exposed to matter
>nuclear pistol achieved
.50 BMG bullets weigh around 42 grams.
Assuming that the antimatter chamber takes up 99% of that weight, each bullet would be equivalent to around 9 kilotons of explosive yield. Or, half a Hiroshima in every .50 cal bullet.
In classic Star King novel they had normal looking projectile guns, except they shot nuckler explosion bullets (oh sweet 50s! Everything is Atomic! Nuclear is the future!)
>There was a sci-fi novel (by Niven maybe?) with a handgun type of weapon that shot anti-matter bullets that could wipe out a continent. Pretty sure anti-matter doesn’t work that way though.
It's explained the biggest problem is containing the antimatter.
In Schlock Mercenary setting they don't treat it as a proper weapon but as something desperate/crazy people use, which is why the resident Mad-Scientist had
SPOILER
such bombs as epaulet for years, one rated to traverse shield, the other rated in megaton.
There is a level higher in things like the Culture that is explored. The very essence of hyperspace itself is the worst weapon.
I never read the books, but if the Culture minds are infinitely intelligent, why would anything other than another race of AI be a threat to them? I heard the books have the Culture be at war with some organic races and that one of the books is about a Culture mind being defeated and crashing on a planet.
First book. Its a young Mind and is during the only war that actually was a real threat to them. The Idirians. There are race that make the Culture seem very weak. For example, the Iln. But then again, they have been dead for 856 million years by then. The thing with Iains sci fi, "Tech is face, not a ladder. Many civilizations reach equitech discoveries on the way up to the peak"
The weapon I was talking about is Gridfire, tapping into hyperspace and using it to...erase things in the real.
>Tech is face
Did you make a typo? How does tech = face?
I never really like the idea of magical BS scifi weapons that are godly powerful for no reason. In 40k there's a race called the Necrons, who have a scaled down model of the milkyway. If you poke anything on the stars on the model, it gets poked IRL. Whole systems can be destroyed by flicking its star. I consider this to be moronic.
Conversely, there's a weapon that humans have which shoots a laser that shifts matter a nanosecond into the past. The subatomic positions within every molecule are transposed microscopically and identical particles are forced into the same quantum space. The resultant release of energy as the subatomic matter unjumbles itself is catastrophic for the vast majority of objects hit by such a weapon. This is cool.
Tech is a face, like that of a cliff or mountain. Not a straight up and down path.
Nothing but AI are a threat to them, and even then generally they're some of the best around. There are a few kinds of problems the culture encounter
Idiran war: idirans were a young race of religious fanatics convinced only they had an immortal soul since they were naturally immortal, in the ageless sense. They warred with the culture and lost, but put up a challenge because they had significantly higher initiative than the culture hippies, they still used AI albeit not as advanced, and they got help from culture peers who thought the culture was too high on their own supply. This was also centuries before the other books, and Minds were kind of shit in the level of omnipotence displayed in comparison.
Peer civilizations: there are a fair number of galactic peers to the culture, but they're generally older and more passive, and have around the same level of technology with some ups and downs. They also often have insanely large populations, the culture has maybe trillions of sapients across the galaxy, but one peer had quadrillions in a ringworld around a single star. Culture is lightweight but agile.
Inferior civilizations: the cultures main raison d'etre is to uplift butthole grug civilizations(aside from cooming and glanding drugs), but they prefer the "subtle guidance" and "involuntarily voluntary" and "glowBlack person" methods. Generally, the operational problems are ethical, if a peer isn't meddling in the affairs.
Sublimed/excession: realspace isn't the only plane of existence. A vague and mysterious process called sublimation happens to many advanced civs, and basically raptures the whole affair without a trace or explanation. Very rarely, things return from higher levels of existence and it's immediately a cause for pants shitting by the entire collective Mindhive, even if nothing actually happens.
Ancients: sort of like sublimed, and possibly actually sublimed, there are old ass megastructures scattered throughout the galaxy. High tech, keep out.
>The very essence of hyperspace itself is the worst weapon.
The final of Schlock Mercenary take the fight to the Pa'anuri, Dark matter entity that are the reason behind regular Great Filter, why all civilizations eventually disappear.
Pa'anuri HATE the local equivalent of FTL jump.
They can make any starship drive they reach detonate.
They can move planet and make stars go nova at will.
Give them any hold over matter and they can make something that override their only weakness: they can be killed by fast series of FTL jump.
It was never explained how fast those creature are, or how they move between galaxies save one complex method that don't answer everything.
Robocop
Bladerunner
The handguns from Dark Angel (I Come in Peace)
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>evil feds must die
>Adrenochrome harvesting
This movie was infinitely based, but I dont know if I'd call the Calico Cordell special "small"
OP specified not "ridiculously bulky." While not a small gun, the Calico is not even rifle sized. Quite small in the movie for the power it had.
I only came across it in Fallout 4 due to some massive weapon pack I downloaded, but I really want an Assault Phaser simply for how cool it is.
>assault phaser
This is some nu-trek bullshit isn't it?
It's the phaser design from the final two TOS films.
William Shatner's idea. He wanted a phaser that looked like a gun.
>beretta takedown lever and slide release
Rollerball had this scene.
Modern guns are heavier than ever
Blade Runner.
In Babylon 5 they had recoilless energy weapons, so the sidearms were snubnose pocket blasters, and the soldier goons had stockless mini 14's
Here are some of those awesome 90s army goons
Enlist in Earthforce today!
The 90s unironically made me want to be a henchman/goon as a kid
seamless CGI
>recoilless energy weapons
This is going to be most energy weapons due to the miniscule primary momentum transfered by photons.
If you have a weapon that has significant radiation pressure its going to be hazardous in a radius, not a line.
Galactica 1980.
https://archive.org/details/pt-1-pt-2-pt-3/Battlestar+Galactica+1980+S01E03+Galactica+Discovers+Earth+Pt+3.mp4
About 8:45.
Here's an attempt at calculating the yield of the original series' blasters.
http://www.tecr.com/galactica/weapons/weapons.htm
Truly the most futuristic weapons are revolvers and Five Sevens with underbarrel grenade launchers.
That's nice. Did you reply to the wrong post, or are you just making conversation?
Its what they use in the reboot Galactica show.
In Heavenly Delusion this fairly average looking pistol fires a like 10 foot wide death beam
troony anime
No, the guy's brain is literally placed in the girl's body, it's not him deciding he was a girl
Hes not saying that because of the plot, he's saying that because it's an anime
>make a tired joke about tranime
>turns out it's literally tranime
kek
The one in Dollman
Spotted the only chad in this thread.
The books of Ian M. Banks show this all the time. In fact the array of weapons he's thought up for Culture operatives and AI is pretty awesome.
Hell yeah. Fricking love the Culture novels.
Gunboat Diplomat remains the best Culture ship name.
I like Nervous Energy and What Are the Civilian Applications?
The GBE from BLAME! was inspired by the story A Gift From The Culture.
>Has a scifi movie/show ever showed a powerful, yet small and lightweight gun?
That's why having a super powered bullet is enough, you need the ability to put it far enough downrange so that it doesnt melt your face along with the target. Something like a railgun shooting an antimatter bullet can work. Doesnt necessarily have to be a gun - I am thinking something like a mortar that shoots a (relatively) low vel slug in a high arc
That's why having a super powered bullet isnt enough, you need the ability to put it far enough downrange so that it doesnt melt your face along with the target. Something like a railgun shooting an antimatter bullet can work. Doesnt necessarily have to be a gun - I am thinking something like a mortar that shoots a (relatively) low vel slug in a high arc
The Zen Gun by Barrington J. Bayley had a pistol that caused the Earth and Moon to become "gravitationally detached", causing the Moon to fly off into space while passing so close it was possible to see the Apollo landing sites without tearing Earth apart with tidal stresses.
It was also mentioned as having the potential to cause the Sun to go nova by neutralising its gravity.
Reminds me of Banks Lazy Gun.
The MIB cartoon had a lot of fun with the Noisy Cricket. J wasn't allowed to replace it and had to make do with trying to control the recoil. One time he braced his back on a tree before firing, which led to the tree bending, rebounding and flinging him into a lake.
>suppressed noisy cricket
now it's just a cricket
I always liked the Babylon 5 Phased Plasma Gun carried by Garibaldi. Sort of a snubbie revolver form factor but packing a hell of a punch.
Its pretty simple really. If you have a powerful gun that is small and lightweight, you can have an even more powerful gun by scaleing it up.
You give me a noisy cricket and i will tape 8 of them together, four facing forward and four facing backwards on a shouldered weapon and i will call it the recoiless cricket.
Wouldn't that just compact the frick out of whatever you use to hold it together
It really isn't.
Farscape has a really tiny energy pistol (that only gets seen in like 2 episodes total)
I would say so. The Wormhole weapon was the size of a small chair and would take the whole galaxy out...
Different emitters for stun, kill, cutting beam, and disintegrate.
Only security and command ranks had anything over "stun" unlocked. The disintegrator setting would cause an explosion, and was considered too powerful for indoors use.
There was also a kludge that would let you fire all four beams at once, at the risk of blowing yourself the frick up, but that wasn't recommended for anything smaller than the Monster Of The Week (tm).
Ah! Thanks for that info. This show came out when I was a kid & I saw the top and 2nd from top emitter used a lot, and I think once they used all four. I always wondered why certain emitters were being used and others weren't.
>Has a scifi movie/show ever showed a powerful, yet small and lightweight gun?
The eight Lazy Guns were mysterious ancient objects, discovered together a long time before the events of the book.
A Lazy Gun is roughly half a metre long, 30 cm wide and 20 cm tall. On the front are two short cylinders that end in black lenses. A sight extends from the main body, as do two hand grips. A metallic strap allows the Lazy Gun to be fired from the waist. On one hand grip is a zoom control and on the other grip is a trigger mechanism. The Lazy gun is massy but light, and weighs three times as much when turned upside down. The Lazy Gun is the only weapon known to display a sense of humour.
To fire the Lazy Gun, it is pointed at the target, zoomed in, and then the trigger is pulled. What happens next is unpredictable. When fired at humans, many different things may occur. An anchor may appear above the person, giant electrodes may appear on either side of the target and electrocute them or an animal may tear their throat out. Larger targets such as tanks or ships may suffer tidal waves, implosion, explosion, sudden lava flows or just disappear. When fired at cities and other such targets, thermonuclear explosions are the norm, although in one instance a comet crashed into the city.
Add this...
and it would be the ideal.
There was the PS20 one shot plasma derringer from Deus Ex.
I just remembered this classic SF story by Robert Sheckley, writing as Finn O'Donnevan. /k/ might get a kick out of this one especially.
https://archive.org/details/Galaxy_v16n02_1958-06/page/n89/mode/2up
https://www.sffaudio.com/mindwebs-the-gun-without-a-bang-by-robert-sheckley/
Thank you anon I enjoyed reading that
Better audio here:
https://archive.org/details/MindWebs_201410/045TheGunWithoutABang-RobertSheckley.wav
Actually the whole collection is pretty boss.
https://archive.org/details/MindWebs_201410/
>Service pistol for a world where criminals are sometimes made out of titanium
I liked H3VR's take on this gun - a hybrid chemical/railgun handgun with sabot projectiles and a bolt handle for releasing heatsink cartridges.
oooooh spooky scifi oooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
>Skorpion
>powerful
L O L
I put .32ACP in my oatmeal for breakfast bruh.
Unless your gun shoots at least .45ACP you need to lower your tone when talking to me.
Galactica 1980 had a Derringer version of their blasters.
its just movie language for moronic audience members
>its beeger, so it hurts more, duh
40k's Lasguns are pretty reasonable. 35" long and weigh 5lbs. They're lighter than an M4 Carbine and only two inches longer. Considering their energy output and capacity, they're pretty fricking incredible. Proportionately to other 40k weapons, they're mediocre, but compared to the shit we have they're astonishing.
The Slaver Weapon from Star Trek The Animated Series looked like a watermelon, had eight settings, including "Matter-energy conversion beam", and was smarter than most of the buttholes trying to use it.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Slaver_weapon
Did you know that police worldwide profile star trek fans as podophiles because so many of them are found with childporn and star trek stuff? Look it up I thought it was bullshit but it is true.
IMIPAK from Blakes 7.
>Acronym for Induced Molecular Instability Projector and Key. Acronym for Induced Molecular Instability Projector and Key. Developed by Coser on the Federation's Weapons Development Base, and stolen by him when he realised that his superiors were going to take all the credit for his work. IMIPAK worked by projecting an unstable potential onto any living thing. It could apparently penetrate clothing in order to do so. The marked target could then be destroyed at will by activating the key. Coser claimed that IMIPAK had a range of a million miles, killing instantly over that range, and extolled the weapon's versatility: it could be used simply to kill, or to enslave, or to keep an individual away from a particular area. The only way to defeat the weapon was to outrun it. Servalan killed her trooper after Blake, Avon and Gan had been marked, indicating a selective target function and/or variable range setter of the weapon. It could also be deployed directionally - Servalan marked and killed the trooper when Travis (already marked) was standing nearer to her.
(Sevencyclopaedia)
>small
That thing is like a foot long without the stock.
It'll seem longer when I SHOVE IT UP YOUR ARSE
I have not yet written a story about a character whose weapons exist outside of time & space; these weapons retroactively operate at the whims of the protagonist, effectively deleting targets' potential existences from the universe, but the "firefights" are difficult to describe.
Come to think of it, someone may have already written that story....
Anyway, the weapons are incredibly handy and weigh nothing for the operator, because the operator doesn't have to carry anything at all; the weapons are just "out there" and always tracking.
I had a dream that I was in an alien spaceship underneath the ground
I was waiting inside with Ozymandias and there was a guy trying to come into the spaceship to steal some secrets
Ozymandias had this little handheld laser pointer and he released 5 bursts of gamma radiation at the guy but the guy had no idea he had been hit and he died of cancer 10 years later
Prop departments generally have to get stuff designed and built quickly and with a surprisingly limited budget. It's a lot easier to make something that's recognizably sci-fi by tacking extra bulky crap onto a gun than by designing something more refined, and there's also the issue that if something makes ergonomic sense then it's probably been done by a real gun and therefore doesn't look sci-fi enough. There's also an issue with small guns showing up clearly enough in actors' hands, and it's also hard to cast a bunch of replicas of tiny guns with fine detail, while big guns with coarse visual elements are easy to do in foam for stunt props etc.
The gun from 65 was pretty lightweight looking
The weapons in District 9 weren't small, but lightweight enough to be carried by a not-totally-mutated Wikus and their firepower was wildly out of proportion with their size/weight. A rifle that would easily tear through an MRAP and its passengers (wearing plats) and exit the other side. A dubstep rifle that just smashed the shit out of things and sent them flying. My favorite though was the microwave rifle that flash-cooked someone they exploded.
>> My favorite thought was the microwave rifle that flash-cooked someone they exploded.
Which hilariously is more real than fiction.
Most of their guns seemed like they'd be useless beyond 100m.
Also I don't see why they never got the idea of having gloves made of prawn skin (or carapace) to bypass the DNA locks on the guns.
>Most of their guns seemed like they'd be useless beyond 100m.
Maybe they're for boarding actions.
Silver-age teenage Lex Luthor had a laser ring that hit pretty hard. Useless against Superboy directly, of course.
Starlord, the REAL Starlord, mind you, not that wanna-be Boba Fett manchild with the daddy issues that's been calling himself that since BENDIS FRICKED EVERYTHING, used to have an "element gun" that would throw boulders, lava, air, or water. Enough to take on spaceships in a fight.
The original Deathlok the Demolisher had a "maser pistol" that actually injured The Thing.
He also had a smaller backup version, although we never got to see if it was as powerful, it did give Quasar a hard time.
Forgot the picture.
Wh40k plasma pistol is RELATIVELY small (for 40k standards), and pack quite a punch.
Johnny Alpha used a Westinghouse Variable Cartridge Blaster, which admittedly isn't exactly a small gun, but for a pistol it was more like an artillery piece, not to mention rather phallic. The number one cartridge was just a standard bullet, number two was a pencil-thin blast that he could use to shoot a hole through a spaceship and kill the pilot, number three was some kind of heat ray, but the number four cartridge was like a mortar round that could take out the side of a building.
But you have you yell "NUMBER FOUR CARTRIDGE!" when you fire it, that's the rule.