I like the M&P 9, but yeah, really, 1911s, CZ75s, 5906s, 92FSs, etc, they are all just special. A handgun with a metal frame and a hammer just feels better.
Assuming you've got them leet reflexes, it seems like it would make a lot more sense to just grab the slide and push it out of battery instead, which would make most automatics not fire, hammer or not.
Not that it's a tactic I would be excited to try out either way.
https://i.imgur.com/R5JgIbh.jpg
Second strike is a drawback, not a feature. Hammers are less reliable as mentioned in [...]
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and they only have better triggers if they're SAO. DA/SA sucks
>hammers are less reliable because a spaz makes a moronic argument that applies equally to any pistol with a reciprocating slide
Why did they change the Five Seven's aesthetic from the original into something which looks like it's made by those Turks who make cheap tacticool shotguns?
>flat and grainy surfaces >wide and blocky slide serrations >sharp and blocky angles >Mk.1 and Mk.2 magazines will not fit in a Mk.3 pistol
Why the sacrificed the distinct aesthetic which is part of the Five Seven's fame I'll never understand, it looks so incredibly generic and understated now.
Cool the FBI, the military of every nation to run a test, and anyone else who ever performed a scientific repeatable test disagree with Mac. I haven't run 10k rounds across 20 guns In a controlled environment I just read the results from people who have, and striker fired guns are more reliable than hammer fired ones.
You can keep one chambered without worrying about blowing your nuts off. I hear about a lot of striker fired guns going off on accident. In fact, there's a thread here right now on the catalog about a guy whose Sig "destroyed his testicles".
That stuff near universally involves two things: >drawing or holstering with your finger on the trigger >using a really shitty holster which deforms gradually and then forms a crease that pushes up against your trigger when holstered
Very easily avoidable things which would be bad practice anyway with other kinds of guns.
>childrens cartoon
If no one is gonna tell him, then im done with this board
Inb4 >4chin was made 4weebz
doesnt mean its only for them, in fact its use has gone up once it branched out of some gay cartoons
Benefits of striker:
Faster shots
Intentional pull
Some strikers nail it
Dasa:
Tapfire (its single action after first shot unless you wiener the hammer, so trigger is lighter)
Alternative "safety" (intentionall double action first pull
Sao
Tapfire every shot
You have to wiener it, but you can have an actual safety
Striker fired is normally shit, but there are some that feel nicer that hammer
What is tapfire? I have never heard that befo. What is an un-intentional pull?
There's almost nothing I'd call garbage. They have some great attributes but too many foibles for me to call good, and of course the company being gone means no parts so you're SOL if anything breaks, whether it's something you'd expect to wear out or not.
>childrens cartoon
If no one is gonna tell him, then im done with this board
Inb4 >4chin was made 4weebz
doesnt mean its only for them, in fact its use has gone up once it branched out of some gay cartoons
Benefits of striker:
Faster shots
Intentional pull
Some strikers nail it
Dasa:
Tapfire (its single action after first shot unless you wiener the hammer, so trigger is lighter)
Alternative "safety" (intentionall double action first pull
Sao
Tapfire every shot
You have to wiener it, but you can have an actual safety
Striker fired is normally shit, but there are some that feel nicer that hammer
tried this. it will work if you get the card perfectly in the gun, however your gun is shaped to hold it. if it doesn't go in perfectly, it'll just fly into the air as the hammer catapults it
>this stops the hammerlet
>Ah yes let me just grab directly at my victim's gun after my melanin and meth imbibed smoothbrain has determined the make and model of their ccw.
Bang
>not autistic enough to instantly identify the make/ model of your assailant's gun
ngmi
>berating him for his weapon choice as he actively shoots you
Truly a /k/ommando
*grabs slide*
lol
I like the M&P 9, but yeah, really, 1911s, CZ75s, 5906s, 92FSs, etc, they are all just special. A handgun with a metal frame and a hammer just feels better.
Assuming you've got them leet reflexes, it seems like it would make a lot more sense to just grab the slide and push it out of battery instead, which would make most automatics not fire, hammer or not.
Not that it's a tactic I would be excited to try out either way.
>hammers are less reliable because a spaz makes a moronic argument that applies equally to any pistol with a reciprocating slide
>gets defeated by a yugioh card
Nothin' personnel Bandit Keith.
What benefit does it bring?
Just picked up a Beretta tomcat.
>What benefit does it bring?
Some people think they look better. That's it really.
Fun to play with.
t. triple action
Based triple action enjoyer
How’s the top one? The lionheart regal or whatever
MORE RELIABLE. BETTER FUNCTION. SECOND STRIKE. BETTER TRIGGER.
Daewoo doesn't have heavy trigger pull on the first shot.
you know, judging by that guy's reaction, I'm getting the feeling that this is one of "those" sports bars
Second strike is a drawback, not a feature. Hammers are less reliable as mentioned in
and they only have better triggers if they're SAO. DA/SA sucks
Behold the internal hammer. No second strike because thats for pussies panicking.
Not bad. Solves the main problems with hammers
Goddamn, why did they make the Five Seven ugly?
They're ok, but that's the price you pay for DA/SA. SAO automatics tend to have very nice triggers.
Why did they change the Five Seven's aesthetic from the original into something which looks like it's made by those Turks who make cheap tacticool shotguns?
I don't know why, but they are going downhill fast.
>Five-seveN Mk3
please be fake
Makes the Ruger 57 look much prettier, don't it?
The 57 still looks like a Ruger, but the Five-SeveN Mk3 looks like a Turkshit copy of something made up for a video game
Isn't it just the WORST? One wonders what motivated the change.
It looks worse than Turkshit. It actually looks like a TX22.
>flat and grainy surfaces
>wide and blocky slide serrations
>sharp and blocky angles
>Mk.1 and Mk.2 magazines will not fit in a Mk.3 pistol
Why the sacrificed the distinct aesthetic which is part of the Five Seven's fame I'll never understand, it looks so incredibly generic and understated now.
Why would Chris Jericho do such a thing
KeK, hammer fired guns are less reliable than striker fired in every test ever undertaken.
MAC disagrees with you.
Cool the FBI, the military of every nation to run a test, and anyone else who ever performed a scientific repeatable test disagree with Mac. I haven't run 10k rounds across 20 guns In a controlled environment I just read the results from people who have, and striker fired guns are more reliable than hammer fired ones.
>FBI
>trustworthy
Do you know where you are?
ya the FBI picks less reliable guns for its own agents just to own people on PrepHole what a fricking schizo.
there it is, the dumbest fricking comment on /k/ today
you can thumb the hammer when reholstering for better safety, don't listen to striker babbys
Mostly a problem of the holsters. If you don't drop around $80 on a holster for the exact make of your gun, you're pretty damn near reckless.
I own a Beretta 92 and Sig P320, and I like shooting the Sig more. DA/SA is just a wienerblock, and that wall of text image is all cope.
>What benefit does it bring?
best benefit is more fluid dryfire training.
Seems like bad training unless your gun is DAO.
You can keep one chambered without worrying about blowing your nuts off. I hear about a lot of striker fired guns going off on accident. In fact, there's a thread here right now on the catalog about a guy whose Sig "destroyed his testicles".
All allegations of the sig 320 were brought forward by cops. Several have been settled and others dropped due to improper carrying practice.
That stuff near universally involves two things:
>drawing or holstering with your finger on the trigger
>using a really shitty holster which deforms gradually and then forms a crease that pushes up against your trigger when holstered
Very easily avoidable things which would be bad practice anyway with other kinds of guns.
As far as I can tell, "striker-fired" is code for Glock. That's it really.
Good gun. I like the ones I've fired. .32 ACP is God's chosen pocket pistol cartridge.
Why not both?
I have both, but the guns I shoot to enjoy are all hammer fired. The striker fired gats I have are all soulless tools, and most suck at that.
Maybe you just gotta find the right one
>strikers are soulless tools
>and suck at being tools
wdymbt?
>mod 9
mah homie
The P7 has soul. The rest are just empty vessels. Hollow shells of a gun.
To me it's just autistic German memery trying to solve a problem nobody suffered with overengineering nobody wanted lol
Tru, but there are exceptions like CZ and HK hammer fired having poorer triggers, and Walther strikers having superb triggers
Hell yeah
hey wait, are you the /mkg/ guy?
🙂
What is tapfire? I have never heard that befo. What is an un-intentional pull?
Top tier kb/m choice. Would’ve been a 10/10 if tenkeyless though.
not him but I need the number pad for bookkeeping and typing special characters like — and ×
non-negotiable, sorry
I'm with anon, I need that numpad!
Cheers bro
wow nice to meet you in your own environment
Is the Hudson any good? I thought they were garbage.
There's almost nothing I'd call garbage. They have some great attributes but too many foibles for me to call good, and of course the company being gone means no parts so you're SOL if anything breaks, whether it's something you'd expect to wear out or not.
I absolutely love mine!
>gets a brno
>not the only relevant one in all steel
I find hammer triggers to be much better than strikers. Strikers are often mushy and hammers have a more crisp break.
Have you ever shot a 92 or USP? Their triggers are shit.
USP and 1911s have the best pistol triggers for biological men with good hand strength
>usp
>polymer
Polymer=shit triggers sorry no way around it.
But how can that be tested when the only people who carry them are internet dweebs who saw them in vidya or anime?
It has a long gritty DA with a terrible reset. It's not the worst trigger ever made, but it's worse than most strikers.
They are not shit. The work perfectly well. The USP match trigger is amazing. The M9A4 trigger is quite good.
The 92 just has long travel in DA but it's still not that bad.
>Have you ever shot a 92 or USP?
Have you?
>Their triggers are shit.
Oh evidently not.
>hammer-fired
>can be defeated even by children's card games
>childrens cartoon
If no one is gonna tell him, then im done with this board
Inb4
>4chin was made 4weebz
doesnt mean its only for them, in fact its use has gone up once it branched out of some gay cartoons
Benefits of striker:
Faster shots
Intentional pull
Some strikers nail it
Dasa:
Tapfire (its single action after first shot unless you wiener the hammer, so trigger is lighter)
Alternative "safety" (intentionall double action first pull
Sao
Tapfire every shot
You have to wiener it, but you can have an actual safety
Striker fired is normally shit, but there are some that feel nicer that hammer
tried this. it will work if you get the card perfectly in the gun, however your gun is shaped to hold it. if it doesn't go in perfectly, it'll just fly into the air as the hammer catapults it
Daily reminder that guns with an exposed hammer are inherently more prone to malfunction
I don't live in Afghanistan, so I don't really care about a moderate increase in sensitivity to sand and sandstorms.
B-but muh minmax EFT-esque conception of irl firearms!!
We weren't all meant to be smart OP.
The world needs ditch diggers.