>supersonic fighter-bomber designed by a seasoned German designer
>prototype's test flights with interim engines showed promising results
>refused Rolls-Royce's offer to develop an engine for you because muh colonization
>refused any foreign aids because INDIA STRONK
>developed your own engines for it
>its shit
>stuck with the subsonic engines
>the entire thing was a failure
>shat on the German engineer throughout the project, then blamed him for not "lobbying" Indian government enough
Why are Pajeets like this?
The pajeets had an Empire State Bulding-sized "stronk independent womyn" chip on their shoulder w.r.t. the bongs. Many of them still do.
Nah you never trust an Anglo Saxon ever. They are filthy untrustworthy backstabbing filth
The phrase Perfidious Albion dates back centuries. Never trust an island dweller
This, the Perfids and they sons will backstab you in seconds, just look at afghanistan or any war really, least trustworthy people. Even the gypsies never pretend they aren't scum.
We have a modern version of it in the works don't worry as a supersonic trainer/fighter bomber.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news9live.com/knowledge/hlft-42-all-you-need-to-know-about-hals-next-gen-supersonic-trainer-au1322-2051382/amp
>this
>tejas
>tejas mk2
>amca
>tedbef
what's the fricking point, how about pick one project and actually complete it?
We have completed the Tejas. Now we are making mk1a with aesa's. With that it will surpass gripen C's. Tejas mk2 is to replace our mig 29's and Mirages. It's the superhornet to the tejas. Will be as capable as the kf-21 and will surpass everything except for the rafale and typhoon.
>we have completed the tejas
Congrats on making a 4th gen fighter in 2018, you're only 45 years late.
To be fair India was a complete shithole and is improving rapidly. The fact that they can build a 4th gen jet is pretty impressive since powers like Japan or Germany can’t (inb4 Typhoon or license built ones)
>To be fair India was a complete shithole and is improving rapidly.
lol. superpower by 2020, i’m sure.
Taiwan and India began development of their indigenous fighters at around the same time, 1982 and 1983 respectively. But the F-CK-1 flew by 1989 and reached service in 1992. Meanwhile TEJAS flew in 2001 and entered service only in 2015.
And Taiwan in the 1980s was not the kind of rich country it is today.
>improving readily
Source?
>built a 4th gen jet
lmao, It's got an American engine, French avionics and airframe designers, British ejector seat and FCS, Japanese MFD's, American gear box, Israeli radar, Russian weapons etc
>Japan and Germany can't
Japan built the F-3 tech demonstrated with very little external help and that's basically a 5th gen. They also license produce the F-15/16. Germany builds a significant amount of the Typhoon, the only reason you call it a "Kit" is because of mandatory workshare agreements with all pan-european projects.
Sorry meant the X-2 Shinshin
JF-17 project formally started in the mid 90's, first flight was 2007 and today there are almost 200 flying in service with 3 different countries.
40% of the cost of the HAL Tejas consists of imported parts. The indigenous radar system has been in development for 26 years and is still "in testing". The indigenous engine finally passed simulated high-altitude ground testing in 2023, which is 37 years after the design process began. They're hoping it will be ready by the time the Ghatak UAV prototype is
finished in "2026" (i.e. 2035 at the earliest). They've completely given up on using it in a fighter. The Tejas is armed with an active radar missile which was indigenously designed (apart from the active radar guidance system which is Russian). The most advanced component India actually designed themselves was the digital fly-by-wire system, but bear in mind, the Tejas is considered to be comparatively aerodynamically stable (i.e. not maneuverable) for a fighter. Besides, commercial jet liners have used digital fly-by-wire systems since the late 1980's, so the technology wasn't exactly bleeding edge by the time the Tejas demonstrator flew in 2001..
So yeah, the Tejas is only indigenous if you include sarcastic quotation marks. Otherwise, it's a fourth-generation fighter that somehow took India thirty years to develop even though all the advanced systems are imported.
And between 2015 and 2022, they produced a grand total of 40 Tejas. If that rate continues, the India Air Force won't replace the last of its MiG-21s (which entered service in 1959) until 2030. By which point, the Indian Air Force's Jaguars will be a 57-year-old design, meaning that they will be even older than the MiG-21s were when the first production Tejas was delivered.
Obviously, the only possible explanation for this is that the Defense Research and Development Organization is a front for the Pakistani intelligence service.
Hold up, the indigenous Mechanical radar was abandoned, the one thats been fitted to the Mk.1A is UTTAM AESA, development for that radar started in the 2010s, and it has already more than 300hs on 2 prototypes + a testbed (apparently the one thats having a bit of a delay is the isreali elta 2052).
As for the engine, yeah, it was never a priority for the indian MoD...thats kinda why they gave that part of the program much funding, they knew it wasnt going to be ready by the time production started.
The whole thing with the FBW system is not that simple, originally it was developed by LM Marietta and ADA, but given that both pakistan and india started testing nuclear weapons (Phokran nuclear tests) they placed an embargo on India and stopped any work that related to the LCA. The indian team at ADA had to finish the system themselves with what they had, and to be fair, they did a good job, sadly this whole mess with the embargo delayed the first flight and the completion of the remaining demonstrator and first prototype (TD-1 was already complete in 96) to 2001.
Production wise, i think we are going to see an increase in the upcoming years, most of the production of the 40 Mk.1 (+ all other prototypes, and pre series) units came from LCA division 1, in recent years another facility was opened (LCA division 2) and on april 7 a third line was opened (Nasik). Im not entirely sure when the new one will be operational, but LCA Div 2 was already prepared to start working on the Mk.1As while the other is doing the Trainers.
As for the migs, the ones they are replacing were built in the 80s by HAL, i think they are among the last to be produced.
Tejas is a miserable failure that keeps losing contracts to the FA-50. And the idea of building an updated Hal Marut is just laughable. Tejas has literally been in development since the early 1990s and you still can't get it right. How is it that Pakistan developed the JF-17 so quickly and it's regarded as a decent light fighter while India can't get it's shit together enough to just build one aircraft that's not shitty?
>surpass gripen C's
LMAO, it's shittier than an early F-16.
Also tedbf is basically to make a 4.75+ gen carrier fighter. It will be comparable to the superhornet and rafale m but more closer to the kf-21 in performance
>Why are Pajeets like this?
Any people a tiny island empire can conquer despite their vast population and area have cultural vulnerabilities. India was also invaded by Muslims long before. Pajeets suck at war and at civilization.
They have nothing besides the intense pride of people who have nothing to be proud of. That's why they're incapable of producing a society suited to independent thought required for modern war and modern tech. They merely imitate but their labor is cheap due to massive essentially irreversible poverty. They're more competent than Pakistan (Pakiban excepted).
It keeps happening.
Only an Indian could base a weapon off the AK and FAL and make it unreliable as frick.
The fundamental problem of India is, that unlike China which slowly turns their people into Han‘s culturally, is a clusterfrick of different populations and cultures which hate eachother to a varying degree
>The fundamental problem of India is, that unlike China which slowly turns their people into Han‘s culturally, is a clusterfrick of different populations and cultures which hate eachother to a varying degree
Han have linguistic divisions among themselves too, albeit the CCP have pushed Mandarin over everyone.
But it's really not fair to compare China with India in terms of diversity. In the former the population concentrates along the eastern coastline, whereas in India it was far more spread-out.