In Japan there is a style of martial art called Kyudo. This is ritual archery, where 正射正中, "a true shot always hits," and the emphasis is on absolutely proper form and the spiritual connection between the shooter, his weapon, and the iron thread between the shooter and his target.
A gun kyudo, a more ritualistic and intuitive shooting sport, should be developed. Pistols, without sights and certainly without optics, shot with one arm, at a 14" target 100 feet away. Only proper form, stillness of hand, and an absolute connection between the shooter and his weapon would ensure a hit. This would promote concentration, and would forge a bond between a man and his handgun, making them one being.
What does /k/ think of my new martial art?
Thats what olympic shooting is, and its really fricking gay, however kyudo is based because all of the girls ive seen practice it are decently cute
>t. lives in Japan
>/k/ommando lives in Japan
That's probably more interesting than where this thread will go otherwise. What's it like for you anon?
I just moved here about a month or so ago, but ive visted a bunch before. I work as an English teacher (lmao) and im planning on staying here for a year or two then becoming either a milgay pilot or an air traffic controller.
Anyways, its pretty cool, my town is a pretty boring suburb, but theres a train station about 10 minutes away by foot where I can end up in the nearest major city in about an hour or so. I've just been wandering around the country by rail in the time ive been here and oogling the airshit in hobby shops whenever I miss my gats back home.
Is there anything specific you wanna know?
How it is as a gungay, I suppose, and how the locals respond to your interest in firearms and airshit. Do you mean a milgay pilot or ATC for the japs, or for your home nation? If for the japs, why?
I hide my /k/ommando power level because nips are very, very afraid of even the concept of a gun, its really strange, but a bunch of them visited my apartment when I lived in Arizona and I showed them my guns and the girls basically had panic attacks and refused to even touch them, my one Westaboo buddy held them, but the rest treated them like they were radioactive lmao.
Also no, I'm a burger, I'm just doing this for fun and because its something Ive wanted to do for a while, and I had the opportunity, so I went for it.
I should add, nips are conditioned from a young age to abhor violence. Like kids playing rock paper scissors dont slap their fist in their palm when they are playing because its percived as being violent
Oh, come on. I've also spent a lot of time in Japan, and some kids are in Judo, Sumo, and wrestling from age 5. "Martial" sports -- guns aside -- are more popular in Japan than they are anywhere else.
Nah, Im serious, not sure what the whole thing about it is, but that's what one of my co-workers said the other day. My best guess is that with kendo/sumo/etc. is that it's in a controlled environment with certain expectations vs out in public
>Like kids playing rock paper scissors dont slap their fist in their palm when they are playing because its percived as being violent
They don't do it because they just don't do it. It's not because adults want them not to do it because violence
Japanese kids like to play pretend fights as Ultraman and stuff.
Well yeah, when I say conditioned, I mean their parents yell at them to knock it off. Sorry that it came across that way, I got off work like 2 hours ago so im kinda schleepy
I believe that's japs not wanting to be disruptive, something about maintaining harmony or some shit. Heard it explained once.
From what I hear, before the war they had a pretty vibrant gun culture going on, its that after losing the biggest war ever that started in part to their aggression and the years of occupation afterward, anything seen as "aggressive" became a cultural faux paus. Also yeah the cultural harmony thing has a lot to do with it.
Yeah, a few, unfortunately I couldnt go shooting with the westaboo since we didnt have the time, and all of the covid lockdown shenanigans happened literal weeks after he left the states so I didnt see him for another 3ish years until I met him again in Germany. Also it's pretty easy to find at least a curious acquaintance who can speak some japanglish at you, and if reciprocate it can grow from there. My westaboo buddy was like that and 4 years after I first met him, he is what I would consider to be basically fluent.
"Freeaboo", surely
You have jap friends? I'm surprised you found enough japs with acceptable English skills for that. Did you take the westaboo shooting at least?
Based adventure haver. How expensive are the high-speed rail lines?
Honestly not too awful, a ride from Kobe to Tokyo (~300 miles) is roughly $110 and takes 3 hours one way. While it is cheaper to fly that, with the Shinkansen you dont need to go through airport bullshit, and you get dropped generally where you want to be, and you can take the metro/other trains to anywhere else you want to go, so I feel that the convenience is worth whatever you would save flying.
Right. I've heard it's not as cheap as people think, but that's still not bad. What's been the easiest adjustment to make?
how much japanese do you need in your daily life?
I'm thinking of visiting and working from japan for a bit since my buisness is home office and I've got someone that can handle the physical paperwork
I can read katakana and a decent bit of vocab but making a coherent sentance is above me
Speaking isnt super required when it comes to daily life, especially in the big cities like tokyo where most people can speak english to some extent or another. Listening though I find is super useful, I can understand a decent amount and figure out most situations through context, but I cant do much more speaking beyond some pretty simple introductions.
My company does a bunch of the paperwork for me, so reading isnt suuuper important in my case, but I do know hira/katakana and some kanji and it does make a big difference.
Easiest is finding food lol. There are a ton of familiar chains and things so if you get a hankering for a burger you can just walk into a Wendy's and get one. Also getting groceries is pretty easy because they have supermarkets all over the place here.
>English teacher
JETson
No, picrel is olympic shooting, and it is an abomination. They shoot small calibers with absolutely laughable amounts of gear/optics and zero spiritual element.
I often wonder how useful this gear is. You never hear about anything of the sort being used by combat snipers, and those guys are the ones with all the records, not these tards.
no anon, military snipers don't have olympic records. where did you get that idea from? and typically if a civillian shoots someone at long range it's called 'murder' and they get put in jail or executed for it.
you seem to be confused as to what you're actually talking about, and are conflating multiple different things. that shit is very useful for winning olympic medals; that's why they use it. they don't care about if it's useful in a military context, because they're not in the military. see how that works?
not everything to do with guns is a call of duty larp. maybe step away from the internet for a while.
Don't talk down to me, you fricking child. I am talking about general records concerning snipers. I am not talking about "WHOOAAAAA WHO GOT DA HIGHEST KDR!!??!" My point was the military snipers? They hold all the records related to sniping. Olympic "sniping" as you call it is only related to the sport. Which is why I fricking asked if any of their equipment had actual use in the context of actual sniping, because, you moron, sniping records can also extend to targets and hunting, not simply military contexts. Fricking dunce.
i can guarantee you a very decent Olympic shooter will outshoot a US Army or marine sniper any day of the week when it comes to shooting a paper target at a distance.
and i can guarantee you the military sniper will outshoot an Olympic shooter in every other scenario that isn't shooting at a paper target.
I'm sorry anon, no matter how much you love Israel's greatest military force (US military) a guy with an $8,000 custom built gun and years upon years of practicing shooting a target with said gun will out-shoot the best taxpayer-trained grunt with a rifle made by the lowest bidder, who's training consists of maybe 50% distance shooting and 50% doing non-shooting related bullshit like pushups and surviving in a forest for a week
You were given quints just to draw attention to how batshit moronic your cope/bait post is
>My point was the military snipers? They hold all the records related to sniping
No they absolutely do not, lmao, a 5 second googling turned up this:
https://www.themeateater.com/hunt/firearm-hunting/7-774-yards-new-world-record-rifle-shot-set-in-wyoming
They hold the record for longest KILL-shots, of course, but that's because war is the only place where you can do that without getting thrown in jail, and war is where military snipers operate
It's for consistency.
All the fancy bullshit just exists so the gun shoots the EXACT same way every single time. It's just about improving consistency.
>military snipers? They hold all the records related to sniping.
Because olympic athletes generally don't see combat?
>Because olympic athletes generally don't see combat
A few biathlon shooters got caught up in Sarajevo during the sniper wars there. Apparently they did pretty well. One of them only went down because he kept camping the same spot and another one of the Biathlon guys from the other side caught on.
>t. Fry the Brain: The art of Urban Sniping and something something
That's why biathlon is the true /k/ sport. Heavy exercise combined with target shooting emulates combat conditions.
>In modern times, the activity that developed into this sport was an exercise for Norwegians as alternative training for the military. Norwegian skiing regiments organized military skiing contests in the 18th century, divided into four classes: shooting at mark while skiing at top speed, downhill race among trees, downhill race on big hills without falling, and a long race on flat ground while carrying a rifle and military pack. In modern terminology, these military contests included downhill, slalom, biathlon, and cross-country skiing
Why is that sign photoshopped?
"all the horsemen's faces gaudy and grotesque with daubings like a company of mounted clowns, death hilarious"
While there is a bit of a spiritual aspect to kyudo, it's often grossly exaggerated. Partially because you had to if you wanted to do anything remotely martial in the late forties, and largely because an old hippie weeb who didn't know any real Japanese wrote a book about it (Zen in the Art of Archery). Unsurprisingly, said book leaves a lot to be desired: https://thezensite.com/ZenEssays/CriticalZen/The_Myth_of_Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery.pdf
Now we do have old martial arts dealign with firearms. On the whole they are basically just matchlock handling drills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BgP_G_U0iE
All said and done it's mostly that any practice requiring deep focus (target shooting being an obvious example) can take on spiritual undertones and the Japanese aren't shy about acknowledging that.
>Pistols, without sights and certainly without optics, shot with one arm
You're missing the point. Kyudo uses old equipment just for tradition's sake (it's not like this is going to be a practically useful skill regardless), not because making shit harder somehow makes it more spiritual. You can be as focused on your shooting with a red dot as without sights. Your way of shooting simply means you don't need as long a shooting range to see the difference between good and great shooting.
>They shoot small calibers with absolutely laughable amounts of gear/optics and zero spiritual element.
You're focusing on the gear, they're focusing on the target. You're not going to buy your way to enlightenment regardless of whether it's a dioptre sight or sightless pistol you bought. If you want spirituality you'll have to put your vanity to the side and look elsewhere.
>Practically useful skill
Considering the former prime minister was just assassinated with a musket a group of heavy archers could probably bring a city to it's knees.
Unfortunately vanishingly few traditional Japanese archers use the full power bows of the past. Samurai used to have tests where you'd have to shoot over a building that physically cannot be cleared from the starting position with a bow of less than 100 pounds draw weight.
>You're missing the point. Kyudo uses old equipment just for tradition's sake (it's not like this is going to be a practically useful skill regardless), not because making shit harder somehow makes it more spiritual. You can be as focused on your shooting with a red dot as without sights. Your way of shooting simply means you don't need as long a shooting range to see the difference between good and great shooting.
Based digits, kami-sama.
I do think, however, that the spirit of Kyudo lies precisely in its focus on form rather than its focus on piercing the target.
Kyudo practitioners are allowed to use new equipment. Carbon fiber and fiberglass bows are far more popular (and cheaper) than old-fashioned bamboo bows. Moreover, draw weights are low in kyudo -- historical/antique war bows are much harder to draw: http://gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2017/07/yumi-japanese-bow.html
Lastly, in kyudo, you're not allowed to use any marking or tool that might help you aim. The focus is strictly on proper positioning and form. "A true shot always hits." This actually fosters a real bond between the archer and his arrow. Surely the same can be done for handguns, and not in a samurai-larp flintlock sense.
>muh small calibers
With that kind of shooting, caliber really doesn't make much of a difference outside of the wind pushing your bullet around more at a shorter range.
>with absolutely laughable amounts of gear/optics
They have an adjustable stock and a peep sight with an aperture that's adjustable rather than needing to swap apertures. Modern tactical long range shooting is more gear focused.
>inb4 the jacket is impractically stiff, when a motorcycle jacket is considered too stiff for competition use for that style of shooting
> t.
moronic but fun.
>gun in japanese is "Jū"
>Jūdo / Jūjutsu
I think there might be a problem with that term
It would have to be "kenjūdo," "拳銃道" -- "the way of the handgun."
Maybe shorted it to kendo?
Already exists. (It is slightly less based because of its autistic ruleset.)
This shit better be done in 1700's dress with spark/flint/miquel/wheel/match lock guns or I am not buying
It already exists, the only difference is the Japanese-style ritualized training.
This style of training can however also be applied to normal firearms-training there is no need for non-ideal form to be paired with it.
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I got you OP
There's a great moral degeneration doujin about two cute sisters who practice that.
>. Pistols, without sights and certainly without optics, shot with one arm, at a 14" target 100 feet away. Only proper form, stillness of hand, and an absolute connection between the shooter and his weapon would ensure a hit. This would promote concentration, and would forge a bond between a man and his handgun, making them one being
Minus the lack of sights, what you're describing is NRA bullseye 50 yd slowfire.
It's 10 shots in 10 minutes, 1 minute each to make sure each shot is perfect
Already a thing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C5%8Djutsu
>Reenactment
😐
>Reenactment, Japan
:O
I've honestly come to respect re-enactment quite a bit. When I was young I saw it as cringe and gay, now I see it as something akin to practical history, understanding history by studying AND doing, and also giving a visual example to others of how it looked like.
Seems gay to me
I'm in. would it be done using modern handguns or historical ones?
Any Japanese martial-art, which all end with -do, is a watered down version of the original -jitsu martial art that was largely lost because of the Meiji Reformation when traditional Japanese arts and traditions were largely banned.
Then when high schools and/or the Olympics got involved they got even more watered-down. You're looking at a LARP of a LARP when it comes to Japanese martial-arts.
Jujutsu - Judo
Aiki-jujutsu - Aikido
Kenjutso - Kendo
Kyujutsu - Kyudo
>Kenjutso - Kendo
"Police kendo" is, in at least a few locations in Japan, kenjutsu + grappling. It's based. But regular kendo is lame because of a gimped set of competition rules, and modern "kenjutsu" is purest cringe.
>Any Japanese martial-art, which all end with -do, is a watered down version of the original -jitsu martial art that was largely lost because of the Meiji Reformation
That's a bit unkind. The jitsu "art" forms are for practical war fighting, the do "way" forms are for self discovery. They're meditation aids.
They're not watered down or replacements. They serve different functions entirely.
Have you seen a kyudo competition? They miss all the fricking time. All this "muh spiritual purity" bullshit is a bunch of cope that was made up in the late 19th century. I really doubt 16th century samurai gave a single solitary shit about "form" beyond your ability to hit what you're shooting at.