>glorious people's Red Army

>glorious people's Red Army
>continues using the Guards (as in the Life Guards of the Tsar) designation for elite units

What did they mean by this?

Okay, memes aside, it's safe to say the Army of the Russian Federation is basically just the Soviet Army, but worse by every conceivable metric, but what about the Red Army and the Russian Imperial Army? How was the Red Army different from its Imperial predecessor? In what ways was it similar?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It means that elite units are called guards in early 20th century russian language.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    During cold war East Germany army retained many prussian military traditions too. In general sticking to your own national heritage, even if the political scenery changes, makes much more sense, than what the Ukrainians (eg) did in the last 8 years, which is larping as British and Germans.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are you retarded by any chance

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        do these dumbass ziggers not realise that half the time they're doing it as a joke to mock how Russians were saying Ukrainians were full of nazis?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In general sticking to your own national heritage, even if the political scenery changes, makes much more sense, than what the Ukrainians (eg) did in the last 8 years, which is larping as British and Germans.

      To be fair, Ukraine in its original form was founded quite literally as a German client state

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_People%27s_Republic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A distinct ukrainian identity goes far farther back than that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but an actual Ukrainian state is a fairly new phenomena. Hence all the Russian claims that such a thing is "artificial" despite the Ukrainian people having existed as a distinct people for centuries.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The puccians have tried to purge any society or people that they conquered by kicking them off their land and bringing their people in, like a literal parasitize disease, deleting their culture, prohibition on their home language and history, then saying that they've historically had always been part of it, such as the example of "Little Russia. " And they wonder why everyone hates them

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To be fair to the monkeys, they're only emulating their favourite Georgian.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>>PrepHole

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >makes much more sense, than what the Ukrainians (eg) did in the last 8 years
      Ukraine is winning so whatever they did it makes sense

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germans and Brits know a thing or two about fighting wars, so why not learn from the best?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If a Russian-style army made with Ukrainian resources and a Russian-style army made with Russian resources fight, the Russians will win every time. Ukraine needed to change to survive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I definitely agree but i was referring mostly about the cultural and visual aspects: names, uniforms, symbols etc.

        For istance, remembrance poppy taken from the Brits out of nowhere.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          While remembrance poppy was taken from the brits, poppies in ukrainian embroidery always were symbols of sorrow, among other things.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fun Fact: The Russians abandoned Kherson on Armistice Day.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What other things have the Ukrainians emulated? I would like to know more. I know that they've changed the date of Christmas to be more in line with the West than Russia.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ukrainian police started attending American police academies after 2015.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Guards honorific was only introduced in late 1941.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's kinda like the US Marines of today. You don't see them fighting much on or from boats, do you? And still it doesn't seem right to call them US Planepassengers.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How was the Red Army different from its Imperial predecessor?
    First, they paid their soldiers actual wage instead of pocket money. Before that private would recieve 50 kopeks (1 rouble - 100 kopeks) as pocket money. For comparison, junior officer of Russian Empire would recieve about 75 roubles of wage without any bonuses (like a bonus that meant to cover the apartment rent).
    Second, the army became classless, so to say. By that I mean that commanders (they weren't called officers since 1918 and until 1943 army reform because of same reasons) had to adress soldiers in a respectful manned and had no right to discriminate them (though commanders still had larger meals than privates) or beat them as it was before revolution. Privates could be promoted to commander ranks - before that officers were mostly nobility, and officers of common birth (like major Ivan Denikin, father of famous White Army general Anton Denikin) were quite a rare sight.
    Rank marks were moved from the shoulders to the collar. Good descision, IMO.
    Lots of new ideas were brought in the Red Army after the WWI and Civil War experience, for example, Imperial Army had no sharpshooters. Most of the miliary machines were manufactured in the country, while Russian Empire imported lots of crucial things like machine guns or engines.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Rank marks were moved from the shoulders to the collar. Good descision, IMO.
      Go on about this, if you would.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >First, they paid their soldiers actual wage instead of pocket money. Before that private would recieve 50 kopeks (1 rouble - 100 kopeks) as pocket money. For comparison, junior officer of Russian Empire would recieve about 75 roubles of wage without any bonuses (like a bonus that meant to cover the apartment rent).

      I take it these were monthly wages you're referring to?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What did they mean by this?
    Party members in the 1920s-40s employed maids and manservants, just renamed into newspeak "home workers." Soviet peasants were de-facto state slaves until the mid-50s.
    Communism is literally feudalism, or rather, feudal theocracy, with the communist party as the privileged caste of priest aristocracy enforcing a state religion.

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