Given recent advancements in battery technology, will we see more experimentation with electro-mechanical guns in the near future rather than guns tha...

Given recent advancements in battery technology, will we see more experimentation with electro-mechanical guns in the near future rather than guns that rely on chemical reactions? Pic related is a Dewalt DCN890 concrete nailer. It's a battery powered alternative to a ramset or other powder actuated nailguns that run off .22 or .25 caliber blanks for driving fasteners up to 2 1/4" long into concrete and steel, and can drive 600 3/4" long fasteners into concrete with that 5 amp hour battery. I figure just being able to match standard velocity .22lr or even just .22 short without depending on chemical propellants or the expensive, bulky, specialized support hardware that higher power airguns require would be quite nice for affordable shooting.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody is interested in this?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's an interesting idea, but a .22 is already pretty cheap. I'd be curious as well about the maintenance costs of your idea of a electromechanical gun.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but a .22 is already pretty cheap
        Noguns pls, the main cost of enjoying guns is reoccurring ammo costs, not buying the guns themselves.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >He doesn't own a looking gun
          .22 is cheap. A Marlin model 60 can be had for 200 bucks, and .22 can be had for 9 cents a round.
          Do you think an electromagnetic gun could be quiet?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Accelerating things to killing speed is likely going to have some friction, and as it hits the air it's likely to make some noise. So doubtful, unless the projectile is large as fuck but also slow.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, coil guns, mass drivers, rail guns, etc. can all be far more quiet. The US experimented with an 80mm mortar for a hybrid vehicle, but scrapped it for other reasons.

            Electric guns have the sound of a sonic boom from the projectile but no explosion. Think a well supressed fire arm but better. There is also no smoke, which is more of a plus for artillery obviously.

            The benefits is that a fully efficient coil gun would absolutely BTFO any current guns on velocity. Sky is sort of the limit, these things have been proposed as a means of hurling shit into space, so projectiles with 3 times the velocity of 5.56mm is a possibility.

            And therein lies the great promise. Even if batteries are heavy, ammo will be very light. Higher velocities make using 3-5mm projectiles possible. Better penetration. And no cartridge where a huge part of the weight is for holding propellant. Ammo would be far smaller and lighter.

            For AA and artillery, at a certain speed you no longer need explosives, since you have a ton of kinetic energy. That is a plus too.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Now I want a quiet railgun for defending my chickens against neighborhood wildlife.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              the rails melt, thats the problem right?
              they seem so cool :

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and .22 can be had for 9 cents a round.
            So in other words it costs $45 to buy the equivalent amount of 22 ammo for one recharge of the battery pack?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I guess I just don't get the appeal of spending bank on a battery recharged gun, when a comparable .22 is cheap to obtain and fire.
              Would the batteries need replaced, or the mechanics wear out faster on the electro rifle than the .22?
              I think it's a really cool idea though. I love anything that can shoot a piece of metal across your yard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Would the batteries need replaced
                They're rechargeable batteries, like those in a laptop, cell phone, etc. You can recharge them many times before they eventually fail. I use tools like that for work, I have some batteries I bought in 2013 that are still working great despite being used nearly every day.
                As for the gun itself wearing out? That really depends on how its made, how powerful it is, etc. Nobody has really built a truly functional one of these things yet.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think this is certainly interesting. According to Dewalt that nailer has a power output of 105 joules. That's about the same power as a .22 Short. That said, it doesn't "shoot" worth a shit, it drives nails into solid surfaces. A different kind of mechanism is needed if you want to make something approximating a gun. There are also the coil guns which run on cordless tool batteries which Forgotten Weapons and Demo Ranch have both shown off on YT, but those are weaker than a paintball gun. Still, it's a step in the right direction.

    Another interesting power tool is the Milwaukee "Airsnake". This is theoretically meant for unclogging drains but if you stick a piece of pipe on it to form a barrel it's a rechargeable pneumatic cannon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >electronic flywheel driven guns
      Not sure about use for hunting and target shooting due to the spool up, but legal full auto at modern .22 short energy levels mentioned here: (assuming it could reach those when driving a bullet rather than a nail) could be fun and is probably outside what a PCP airgun can offer without requiring you to wear a scuba tank on your back. Hilti seems to make one of these as well that doesn't have the spool up time that Dewalt's has, but I'm not sure if that one works the same way or how powerful it is.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, neofudds are scared of electronics.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whut? Neofudds love electronics

      >Nooo you can't have that levergat, it's oooobsolete, you have to have an AR with 9000 lumen thermal zoom scope with an automatic IR laser designator

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What about a battery operated air gun?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Something that could lob grenades would be very practical. But it takes an awful lot of energy to compress air, if you want to do kinetic damage rather than flinging an explosive it's not very practical.
      Dewalt's nailers use a flywheel mechanism but Milwaukee uses a gas spring, sort of like a gas spring air gun like the famous Theoben Eliminator. That kind of power level should be possible.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Milwaukee doesn't make a nailer that can handle concrete and steel though.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They don't but that's not really relevant. The concrete nailers are not really any more powerful than a 3.5" framining nailer. Those are about a hundred joules, more than three times the power of the air rifle I was comparing it to. So if a milwaukee framing nailer can shoot 3 nails a second with a hundred joules a pop it could easily do the same with airgun pellets.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unlikely for two reasons.
    One, chemical ammunition is vastly more powerful. If you look at the options you have coilguns and railguns. Coil guns pull by running electricity through a series of coils in front of the projectile and creating a magnetic pull. This can get pretty fast as a science project but is not even equivalent to a .22 projectile. Rail guns are vastly impractical at a handheld scale and are mostly limited to an experimental role in navy projects as artillery.
    Two, chemical ammunition is more dependable and more hardy. Chemical ammunition will never just stop working. It can degrade over long periods of time if stored improperly and that is an issue but if you're working with a chemical firearm you don't have to worry about constantly keeping your rifle plugged in because the heat of the north african desert keeps fucking draining the battery. Also while it's not the best thing in the world to throw your rifle around its not as sensitive to damage as a battery cell which could be damaged by impacts and even possibly explode. This second category is also why the military doesn't use electric vehicles.

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