What's up people. I'll keep it short so I can try to fix this mess.
Long story short, I'm living completely alone in a house with no way to install internet but I have unlimited phone internet on my smarthphone. It's not a shithole in the middle of nowhere, there is just no availability for new clients in my zone right now and I don't talk that much with the neighbours so stealing wifi is not really down my alley.
Anyway, I have unlimited internet on my phone but I'm very restricted to 10 Gb on hotspots and shared internet.
Is there a way to get internet on my PC with a USB stick? I already bought a hotspot stuff that uses shared data/internet and it already ran out. I really need something that uses or fools the phone network as if it was another mobile device... which technically is since a laptop is mobile but it's not a phone.
Please help. I don't need to be spoonfed I just need to know what I should look for when buying. I already wasted some money in a new phone SIM chip and the small hotspot junk. I need something that doesn't exclusively uses shared internet.
I don't even know how the phone company figures what's shared and what's phone usage.
I guess it depends on your provider. Verizon offers unlimited data on a connected device for $20 a month if you have an unlimited plan on your phone. You'd just have to buy a USB sim card adapter if it doesn't have an esim installed already.
Spend $20 and buy a mobile hotspot. Picrel is $14.
If your phone doesn't allow you to use the data you pay for as you choose, that phone doesn't really belong to you. I suggest you install an open Android ROM
I bought picrel just because it runs linux during a time of pi shortages, but mine doesn't have the right bands for USA. Do you have a link to one with compatible bands?
There's always the satellite internet option.
I just click "turn on hotspot" on my phone and it shares its connection via wifi. It can also share its connect via usb tethering but I rarely use that, comes in hand on occasion though.
>there is just no availability for new clients in my zone right now
What third world shithole do you live in?
I'm doing the same thing as you are trying to. I went on ebay and messaged a couple of the sellers who are peddling "unlimited" data plans from ATT and the like.
They will happily give you instruction about how to pick a 4g modem/hotspot that is capable of having the TTL (time-to-live) settings adjusted so that your traffic is masked as though it was originating from the modem rather than a connected device. I'm sucking down hundreds of GB a month with no issues.
Apparently this is the main way that they are tracking whether the data usage is coming from the phone or from a connected device.
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>>>PrepHole exists and this is still here five hours later
I know, right? This is taking up precious space that could be used for another DIY air conditioner or PEX thread .
>pex thread
Boy I sure hope you dont use PEX. Hold on I should make a thread about that.
>it's ok that there's shit here because otherwise there would just be shit there
I'd rather there not be shit at all.
>I'd rather there not be shit at all.
Unless you're new here, you know that's never going to happen.
How can you be restricted to 10gb hotspot shared internet. Like your device doesn't allow sharing internet through hotspot after 10gb?
When you sign up for a phone service you provide an IMEI number which is pretty much your phone’s serial number. It tells them exactly what device you are using. What they don’t know is what software it runs since it’s really on the manufacturer to make sure you don’t boot custom firmware.
They can tell the difference between sharing and usage because your phone reports that. Otherwise there’s no quantifiable difference.
You might be guessing “what if I spoofed it and used a different device that enabled sharing and cloned a different devices IMEI?” or “What if I installed custom firmware that didn’t report data sharing?” These are interesting questions, but ones that lead to illegal activities.
It’s possible to be caught since every wireless device has a radio footprint. Every device transmits data a little differently and if it doesn’t match what’s expected, you’ll raise some red flags.
Of course you may just find a provider that doesn’t give a shit with how you use data.
Sometimes they can tell the difference if they're sniffing your traffic. Make sure you use a VPN.
>They can tell the difference between sharing and usage because your phone reports that. Otherwise there’s no quantifiable difference.
Incorrect. There is a quantifiable difference-- the packets being transmitted have different time-to-live numbers, in addition to other issues. It's not necessarily (or even rarely ever?) a matter of the phone "reporting it"
> illegal activities.
Black person it's not illegal to break TOS of your ISP. It's just a breach of contract.
I had this problem with T-Mobile a few years ago.
You need to fool your data provider into thinking all your data is coming from a phone and not your computer. Your phone company is inspecting the header metadata (shit that's not data itself in data packets your phone sends to and receives from your nearest cell tower).
Data is not exchanged over the internet in a connection, like old-timey landlines, but in discrete chunks of data around which are wrapped identifying data. We call data about data metadata, and the data plus the metadata is the packet. This identifying data is located in the part of the packet called a header, which is similar in concept to the from and to parts of an postal envelope. Along with telling you where it's coming from and where it's going, it also includes a lot of other info.
One of the pieces of info included is the TTL (Time-To-Live), which is a number. This number is decremented by every node through which that packet passes. When this number reaches zero, the packet is discarded by the next node it encounters. This occurs because if it didn't we'd have lost packets being passed around forever, and the internet congestion would never end.
The TTL for most mobile operating systems is IIRC 64. The TTL for Windows, Linux, Mac, and other non-mobile OSes varies, but is usually greater than 64.
Another piece of data is the user agent string. This is information about the operating system, web browser, and other stuff so whatever website you're using can decide what sort of web page to serve you. Some sites have different web pages if you're on mobile or a desktop/laptop.
There are at least 2 things you need to do:
>1. Set the TTL (Time-To-Live) for your operating system to that of a mobile phone operating system.
>2. Set your user agent string for your web browser to that of a mobile web browser.
>3. Verify that things which are basically web browsers like Steam work, and if not find a workaround to get them working.
Continued.
For number 1:
> Search for "change TTL [your operating system]"
> Follow the instructions therein, which should be some sort of Powershell bullshit if you're on Windows, so don't be scared. Just verify that the results are the same on 4 or 5 different websites and post them here for others in the thread.
> If you're on Linux you can figure it out on your own.
> If you're on Mac go frick yourself.
For number 2:
> You need a web browser or web browser add-on which allows you to change your user agent string. Firefox allowed this 8 years ago, I dunno about now. There's probably a Chrome store plugin that does it if you're on Brave.
> Google "What is my user agent string?" on your phone, and put that string into whatever your user agent string changer is on your desktop/laptop.
For number 3:
>I don't know.
This guy is correct.
TTL is the only way they know its being used as a hotspot.
I have a grapheneos phone and use a VPN and was surprised when they STILL knew I was using the hotspot and sure enough, one of the lowest level headers of information, and used to detect this, is the TTL.
Are there any phone service companies that give you data plans with multiple SIM cards that let you pool the total amount of data and charge by total use? I haven't found any even though that type of thing should be commonplace. Basically I need a lot of SIM cards but they aren't all going to be in use at all times, so it wouldn't make sense to buy a plan for each one, I just need the data from all of them to be pooled so I can pay just for what I use.
Are there any companies in Canada and/or the US that do that for their respective countries?
You can simply buy a router with two USB ports and stick those with sim modems and then enable dual wan with load-balance. Should end up even on the data usage.
>that type of thing should be commonplace
That type of thing IS commonplace. You just don't normally find it by looking into consumer phone plans.
A lot of the IoT and M2M sim providers have plans that can do what you're asking for. Something like Twilio Supersim lets you have any number of devices get connected or disconnected at any time and you just pay by the byte for the data that you use.
There are other providers that might be more suitable for you, but that was the first one to come to mind.
A lot of other providers let you pay per-data-per-sim which still might be cost effective for you depending on how many different SIMs you're going to need. Something like Verizons M2M plans charge ~75 cents per SIM per month.
Thank you, this helped a lot. I didn't know to search for M2M plans, and that Supersim plan might be pretty much what I was trying to find.
Visible wireless (by Verizon) is $30 per month for unlimited calling, messaging, and hotspot usage. Unlimited calling and texting to Mexico and Canada if that interests you.
I started service with them and just used the SIM card for a WiFi 4G router. After a couple of weeks, they sent me an email that they couldn't identify my phone and wanted to know what I was using to be sure it was an 'approved' device. I bought a $120 Moto G Play from Amazon and moved the card to the phone. No more questions or problems.
They sometimes throttle to 5MB/sec but I'm still happy. When I'm not using it for the internet, I turn off the hotspot. Sometimes I call or text my regular phone just to appear to be using it as a phone.
If anyone is interested in using Visible, I can provide a link to get $20 off the first month. (join using the link for $10) Yes, I get $20 off my bill too. I'm not posting the link now because I don't want to be a spammer. You're welcome to join for the full price.
Main caveat is no real customer service or storefronts. Customer service is provided via chat.
I'm posting this from a laptop connected via WiFi to the Visible phone's hotspot.
Provide link code please this service looks far superior to my current prepaid plan
>Provide link code please
https://www.visible.com/get/?3HLT27W
Good lord, this thread...
Get a SOX5/HTTPS proxy app for your phone like "Every Proxy". Then set your computer or browser to use the phone when you tether. You'll get the same speed and limits as your phone has.
This is because your computer sends the internet connections to the app on the phone, and the app makes all the outgoing connections to the net. This is undetectable by the phone company because the phone is genuinely making all the internet connections.
Set your computer or browser to use the *proxy* when you tether.
Chek if your phone carrier offers 4G routers. Not from muttland, but here companies offer sims with internet only plans for hotspots and such.
I can't imagine being limited on hotpspot usage.
It's just mind boggling that that is a thing.
Verizon used to charge you separate for a hot spot. Now they allow it, but limited your throughput. They don't want you using your cell phone for your house internet. It's just a money issue. They want to maximized what they can squeeze you for, without you leaving for another provider.
>stealing wifi is not really down my alley.
why not? If you see any nearby wifi signals that say "NETGEARXX", "SpectrumSetup-XX", "MySpectrumWiFi-XX", "Tmobile-XXXX", "TP-Link_XXXX", or "FrontierXXXX" I might be able to help.
NTA but I could use some help in this area. my kiddieskriptz "skills" are about 2 decades old. Could you point me towards some modern info, recomended torrents, sites, etc
there really isn't much new in the way of WPA/WPA2 cracking. The newest "thing" in the field is PMKID attacks that allow for capturing of 1/2 a handshake without any clients connected to the wireless router. Not all routers are vulnerable however.
Standard tips from the past still apply. Load up a recent Kali Linux Live USB, start up WiFite2 and have it walk you through capturing a handshake.
What has improved however is the speed at which one can crack a password of reasonable length. The SSID's I listed have known weak default passwords that can be guessed rather quickly (under 10 mins) given a sufficiently powerful rig. For example TP-Link_XXXX SSID's have a default password that is 8 digits long, only numbers (0-9). That can be cracked in about 5 minutes.
thanks
PDAnet.
I've been using it for years.
Worth buying.
Just use the free version to make sure it works