German Navy released "Force Structure Goals 2035+".

German Navy released "Force Structure Goals 2035+".

https://bundeswehr.de/de/organisation/marine/aktuelles/zielbild-marine-2035

"Given the new importance of deterrence and defense, the German naval forces must adapt to technical progress. This means comprehensive entry into unmanned systems and artificial intelligence."
>https://twitter.com/naval_gazing/status/1632334543419064320

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://web.archive.org/web/20230305145549/https://www.bundeswehr.de/de/organisation/marine/aktuelles/zielbild-marine-2035

    Basically a refocus on NATO vs. hunting pirates.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be g*rm*n
    >see major land war develop in your own continent
    >start building boats

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It helps the NATO to dominate in the Baltic Sea, Northern Sea and the Northern Atlantic.

      Northern Sea and Baltic Sea are direct threats to NATO, while Northern Atlantic is crucial for getting stuff from the USA to Europe.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        baltic sea is functionally surrounded by nato and even land based missiles are enough

        as for norther sea and norhter atlantic, dominate against who? The irish navy?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you think Russia has a massive submarine fleet?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because they love sucking cocks, which is the reason for most things russian

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I honestly don't know why they operate undersea death traps.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you think Russia has a massive submarine fleet?

      baltic sea is functionally surrounded by nato and even land based missiles are enough

      as for norther sea and norhter atlantic, dominate against who? The irish navy?

      assuming that Russia is going to finally fade into North Korea tier irrelevance, everyone on earth is going to need botes to fight China

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        German Navy returning to refocus on inherent NATO tasks will also help any deployment in the Pacific - even though it would be somewhat ad-hoc.

        Though Germany is planning to establish a logistics hub in Singapore for the Navy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does Germany even have boats when they should be a land power? is it autism?

      Don't act like other euros don't pull the same nonsense.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        guilty, with finlands navy building some dummy big ships for our little puddle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Worked in WW1

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone in their mother will be preparing for a land war. Germans are crafty - nobody will expect them to prepare for a SEA war.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s for 2035+ you fucking dumbfuck or do you expect Bakhmut is still going on in 2035?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Underrated

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >major land war develop in your own continent
      A major land war that destroys the only enemy left.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Carrier strike group when

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Germany even have boats when they should be a land power? is it autism?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would a country that contains a coastline, a few islands, and a company like ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems not have a navy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also a country that will operate as logistics hub for the USA kinda want to secure the lines of communication to the USA

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what islands ? Krauts are landlocked morons

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Amrum, Sylt and Helgoland to name three of them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Krauts are landlocked
          Are you genuinely retarded or just pretending?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Krauts are landlocked morons
          Posts like this are why I don't take any mutt opinions about things outside of their border seriously.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >mutt opinions
            oxymoron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ironically for providing UK and France with ships to protect their aircraft carriers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, actually un-ironically, as per NATO doctrines

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >unmanned systems and artificial intelligence
    >future of warfare is AI drones and AI boats
    I don't know how I feel about this.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any cool shit like new drones or something like that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, this is one of the main focuses of the new Navy plan.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then they should invest more into nuclear propulsion if they ever want to fight the chinks, their conventional subs are useless for any kind of future war in the pacific

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tell that to all nations operating a crazy amount of conventional submarines in the Pacific

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So germs has a coastline in the pacific now ? Or they would still have to sail thousands of miles to get there, retard ? There’s a reason why Aussie wants nuclear boats, even though they literally border the pacific.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes, you can move a conventional submarine anywhere you want

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you ever looked at a map of the pacific? It's prime conventional submarine territory.

                >wants to join the big boys party in the pacific
                >is literally on the other side of the world
                >muh extremely limited endurance AIP is better than nuclear boats
                Jeez no wonder you retarded germs voted to shut down nuclear plants and chose to rely on vatmorons gas.
                Btw, you always suck at naval warfare, so leave the fighting at sea to your Anglo masters

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >extremely limited endurance
                Yes, it can only spend weeks between recharging batteries and months at sea. EXTREMELY LIMITED!

                >better than nuclear boats
                What's it like, flailing at strawmen like that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tell that to all nations operating a crazy amount of conventional submarines in the Pacific

            Because they can't afford to develop nuclear boats and can't buy nuclear boats from someone else.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Have you ever looked at a map of the pacific? It's prime conventional submarine territory.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By the way, Germany still uses a single Barbe-class utility landing craft called Lachs ... which was build in the 1960s.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >By the way, Germany still uses a single Barbe-class utility landing craft called Lachs ... which was build in the 1960s.

      The Baltic has brackish water, meaning that things rust much slower. The difference in rust attack between east coast Sweden and west coast Sweden is huge.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia has a ship that was commissioned in the...Imperial Russian Navy. Never mothballed, still in active service. Named the Kommuna I think.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Greatest navy on the old continent.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are they going to scrap a newish F125 or why is it down to 3? Also i heard they want to built 2 carriers together with the netherlands

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Are they going to scrap a newish F125 or why is it down to 3?

      They will most likely run them until the MLU would take.
      And the Joint Strike ships are pretty much dead because new refocus on NATO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Also i heard they want to built 2 carriers together with the netherlands
      pls be tru

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its against the laws of the Universe for Germany to own a Aircraft carrier

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It will be solved once they fund an EU Navy carrier.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its against the laws of the Universe for Germany to own a Aircraft carrier

      They will build this instead
      > at least 90 VLS cells
      > over 10000t

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Dutch side is claiming that Germany wants to operate AEGIS for their F127 class ships.

    https://marineschepen.nl/nieuws/Bom-onder-Nederlands-Duits-fregattenproject-020323.html

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only 15 uboats? I am disappointed

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