>Walking aimlessly in the woods?
That is honestly preferable to video games since you enjoy nature and build strength. You could try your hand at other hobbies?
How's my helmet setup? I think it's relatively functional
decent but figure out what's going on with your suspension. You shouldn't have the straps bunching, turning around, going under or above the hearing protection cup
remember to make room for your pads and the headband
is that an M9 CVC or some other model?
Do laps and burpess then let your mommy pepper spray you to test your seal. It's the only way to learn how to quit thinking about functionality like a child and start actually finding out like a man.
Do laps and burpess then let your mommy pepper spray you to test your seal. It's the only way to learn how to quit thinking about functionality like a child and start actually finding out like a man.
I bought a ferro when I had no idea what I wanted or needed and regret it. I wish I'd known about add ons being expensive and proprietary.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yea, I swear by their stuff but you can’t really go into it blind. A lot of their kit uses their proprietary “adapt” system so you should really piece it together in your head before buying. Next time read the description lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Next time read the description lmao
mfw sold out / not available
Belts are a little different, so not really no. The Blue Alpha gear and Eclipse and AWS are just as good as the other ones. GBRS shit is overpriced trash, just like everything else they sell. Hayley is also trying to sell a belt for like $200-250 or some shit. These belts are literally just an inner velcro with an outer cordura belt with laser cut molle, that's it, not $250 of shit.
there unironically didn't need to be any other belts made after Ronin Tactics came out with theirs over a decade ago >b-but muh tu samurai larper
dude commercialised a good belt the only people who hate him are seething
2 years ago
Anonymous
yea I agree, all the other belts are just knockoffs, like Hayley's belt is literally the same but 2'' instead of 1.75,
>but but Muh material cost
Doesn't justify it being $100-150 more.
Hayley and these GBRS gays need to just fricking off themselves tbh. Costa too, the fricker shills more than I have ever seen. He's literally shilling tactical lever gats.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>cringe costa
dude has never been in combat it physically hurts to listen to him speak on anything
2 years ago
Anonymous
$50 gear is the same as $150 gear. I don't give a frick what anyone says. People who spend hundreds on rigs are fricking stupid and gay. The only thing worth a lot of money is good plates and night vision, and I don't frick with either and never will, so I don't care.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I generally agree with this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure, you can spend more and get that low-drag, high-speed gears that the ex-socom guys are shilling ... but it takes a special kind of delusional homosexual to think he is going to be running around in a plate carrier, battle helmet, $20K night vision, with coms, a SBR with IR laser and suppressor ... and will be getting into endless CQB battles and clearing buildings. I mean, how much of a wannabe does one have to be? Here is an infinitely more likely scenario in SHTF: you shoot at someone 100-200 yards away who is shooting back at you. In that situation, do you have magnification? Do you have a properly sighted in rifle with good ammo and a good trigger? Have you practiced shooting prone or supported off cover?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I cannot refute.
I think most non military people are just trying to figure this stuff out on their own and get taken in by Leviathan’s marketing influencers. Buying stuff they don’t need because it looks cool.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would generally agree. Plates, NV, Optics, firearms, shit that matters. A fricking 50 dollar belt vs. 250 GBRS homosexualry isn't going to mean the difference between life and death. Same with shit like jackets and micro rigs and all this other homosexualry. Opscore helmet with good NV, quality plates, carrier, good rifle setup, thermal, IFAK, and hydration is all you need.
2 years ago
Anonymous
a $50 belt vs a $150 belt is the difference between a blackhawk riggers belt or a 2 piece molle belt, one of which will allow you to mount pouches you may want and have some scalability I wouldn't choose belts as the hill to die on
2 years ago
Anonymous
“Yea you don’t need to spend that much” >opscore helmet >nods >good rifle >thermal >save $100 on the belt I guess?
2 years ago
Anonymous
to be fair a belt has a lot less potential avenues of failure. If those fricking canvas M1 bandoliers served for 30 years I think most tactical belts, even the cheap ones, will do the job
2 years ago
Yukari
bando posting should be a bannable offense
2 years ago
Anonymous
you asked for it
2 years ago
Yukari
man I remember thinking my C&R and being 21 made me an expert
you'll grow out of this phase, too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
don’t tell me you never make meme loadouts with your shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Meme loadouts are the best, don't let em knock you
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nice look, what hood is that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's a surplus Nomex tanker hood, works very well with the millennium
2 years ago
Anonymous
uhm anon, I would actually go to war in that
2 years ago
Anonymous
>oooo I'm 25 unemployed and still in college doing a meme polsci degree >I'm a man
2 years ago
Anonymous
cool
2 years ago
Anonymous
where are your fricking plates you mong
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. PCs are also the right solution for pouch real estate in the chest & back areas that chest rigs can't accomplish.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah and they have no fricking load bearing structure without the plates, lol. You'll be an aching mess if you try to actually hump that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the photo was taken the day I got the PC. That’s why there’s literally no pouches in it also. Plates were in the mail still. They’re in now.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. PCs are also the right solution for pouch real estate in the chest & back areas that chest rigs can't accomplish.
You’re not wrong but you’d be encasing yourself in something that would retain an excessive amount of body heat for no reason.
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/ahkanR4.jpg
you asked for it
man I remember thinking my C&R and being 21 made me an expert
you'll grow out of this phase, too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
as should being fat and tripgayging
have a nice day
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The only thing worth a lot of money is good plates and night vision, and I don't frick with either and never will, so I don't care.
I generally agree with this.
I would generally agree. Plates, NV, Optics, firearms, shit that matters. A fricking 50 dollar belt vs. 250 GBRS homosexualry isn't going to mean the difference between life and death. Same with shit like jackets and micro rigs and all this other homosexualry. Opscore helmet with good NV, quality plates, carrier, good rifle setup, thermal, IFAK, and hydration is all you need.
poors are out in force tonight. RIP to /gq/ lmao.
2 years ago
Anonymous
materialist fools will likely not fare well in the showdown between good and evil
2 years ago
Anonymous
Spotted the Seal wannabe. KEK.
2 years ago
Anonymous
by your own admission, plate and NVGs are worthwhile but you refuse to buy them in spite of recognizing their value. the only conclusion anybody can make is that youre a poorgay. either own what you are or be a seething b***h, its your call.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>hundreds on rigs
well to be fair it’s pretty much impossible to not spend $300 on a PC that offers actual protection. But I agree. Most people will never be in a situation where even condor shit will fail them
2 years ago
Anonymous
>le everyone itt is just larping
I remember when people in the military used to post here. funnily enough the endless bullshit from neverserveds drove most of them away
2 years ago
Anonymous
well military is issued their shit, for the most part. So even if people are military or former their self built rigs likely won’t see any use unless they go into contracting. The ones who do get to choose what their rigs are tend to be pretty fricking hush hush about literally everything they use. I remember there was a story of a knife maker who had a client continually request additions on a knife until he basically created a whole new multi tool knife at the customers behest, and only learned years later that it was a SEAL contracting the perfect knife for his team.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>tfw neither pog nor high speed >issued gear is just fine but not very interesting >unit's regs don't give much breathing room for customization and no one else does
I just live my life and larp on the weekends anyways.
2 years ago
Anonymous
R*ddit tier neverserved post
2 years ago
Anonymous
there's technically nothing wrong with other companies making justasgood alternatives, but most of the fabric belts are just reinventing the wheel and slapping a different logo on it
the AXL eclipse belt is the only one which actually used tegris in an innovative and non-moronic way, the Ferro Bison and GBRS are complete and utter shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/NoCC1Cb.png
How are galvion helmets? i was gonna get a team wendy but these look like a good budget option, and the site says it's IIIA.
Helmets are a waste of money, it limits your movements, adds weight, doesn't protect from shit, and costs a frickton. Why the frick would you buy one
2 years ago
Anonymous
>gets shot in the head and dies
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did you miss the part where they don't protect from fricking rifle rounds?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>all firearms are rifles >handguns and shrapnel don't exist >no one in WW1, WW2, Vietnam wore helmet and no body armor
any more genius takes anon?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're not gonna be sitting in trenches in a war buddy lmao. Same thing with explosives. Just admit you're a moronic larper
2 years ago
Anonymous
try currently in the military and issued a helmet
just admit you're a moronic larper and maybe have a nice day you massive homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Vietnam >trenches
Don’t point to a few FOB’s or behind the lines stuff when they wore them out in the jungle while on patrol
2 years ago
Anonymous
They can sometimes. If the rifle round doesn't hit perfectly or if it's coming in from kinda far away, a IIIA helmet can deflect what would've been an otherwise lethal shot. Happened plenty of times in Afghanistan.
Weight vs protection is always a tradeoff you're making, but your head is a pretty important body part and it's worth taking on some weight to protect.
2 years ago
Anonymous
imagine going to war with giant homosexual hair that you have to keep out of your eyes and then b***h about helmets limiting you
2 years ago
Yukari
Did you miss the part where they don't protect from fricking rifle rounds?
>doesn't protect from shit
ok moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Ok moron
Tell that to your brain when the helmet caves.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Why the frick would you buy one
So you don’t end up dying from shrapnel like the two more than likely dead chechens in your pic
2 years ago
Anonymous
You will never be bombarded with artillery in your life moron. You will however have extra worthless weight on your head that'll impair your head movement.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yea I agree, all the other belts are just knockoffs, like Hayley's belt is literally the same but 2'' instead of 1.75,
>but but Muh material cost
Doesn't justify it being $100-150 more.
Hayley and these GBRS gays need to just fricking off themselves tbh. Costa too, the fricker shills more than I have ever seen. He's literally shilling tactical lever gats.
Tu stole the design from the original SMU belts. Parachute riggers had been making them for a decade. Tu is a trash human and doesn’t deserve your money when the new SMU is cheaper AND better quality >t. Owned and deployed with them all
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Tu is human trash
I’ve heard this before. Can you elaborate?
I dont but I can try a new one in a bit. Packing ATM
>Tu is human trash
I’ve heard this before. Can you elaborate?
Different but IIRC, he stole from the uplifts, shot himself through the foot and got b& from the 1 range, claimed “the Unit” despite never being delta and a host of less severe but still scummy shit that you’d think - as a GB - you wouldn’t HAVE to engage in to make it in the gear game
According to the official narrative; that was because the stealthhawks wouldn't be able to make the trip if they were all weighed down, same reason they stripped the seats out. My impression is that they tacitly accepted that if there had been any meaningful military response from the pakis before they got away, they were all dead.
According to the official narrative; that was because the stealthhawks wouldn't be able to make the trip if they were all weighed down, same reason they stripped the seats out. My impression is that they tacitly accepted that if there had been any meaningful military response from the pakis before they got away, they were all dead.
Well when you have over a dozen guys and they all have 90 rounds + 1 in the gun and you are assaulting a small compound with a max of like 2-3 adult males you don't need a full loadout. And Pakis aren't gonna come down on you in < 30 minutes at night, they are busy taking their nightly shit in the streets kek.
Its still interesting reading about their proposed exfil plans if the backup choppers werent able to get to them. Insofar as they were going to walk 100 miles to the border.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Were they planning on carrying his body with them?
2 years ago
Anonymous
they could have just brought his head in the beavertail of a pack, if they hadn't canoed him kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
They probably could have tbh, since they are trained in E&E, if the Pakis never detected them ofc.
2 years ago
Anonymous
a modern day Moore’s March. Would have been interesting if it happened tbh
Different anon here, is that just the numbers for primary mags or is that total mags? I'm wondering how many pistol mags people generally carry, if they bother carrying a pistol plus rifle.
Depends on how far you think you'll be moving.
Long range(like 8+ mile movement) = chest rig with 3 mags. 1 or 2 on belt. However many more you think you'll need in your ruck or whatever.
Short range(5 miles or less movement) = plate carrier with 3-5 mags, 2-3 mags on belt, however many more you think youll need in assault pack.
>8+ mile movement >literally anything on your belt
Kindly commit suicide you moronic homosexual you've never moved 8 miles in your life let alone with gear or in the military. Also the difference between 5 miles and 8 miles is so pathetically insignificant it's laughable. Literally the no.1 consideration with long distance movements is comfort which means no belt friction rubbing against your skin and into the waist strap on your pack and no weight on your chest which means your plate carrier is inserted into your ruck against the pack frame. Kindly explain to the class how you intend to draw mags from your belt in combat from underneath a 150lb ruck you clueless mongoloid cretin. Maybe shut the frick up and don't post until you've done multiple deployments and years in the field
I'm not him, but you're very fricking angry and I'm gonna have to request some kind of bullshit that shows you know what you're talking about >t. in the middle of conditioning to my kit, doing ruck trips and such
Also you fricked up, the guy said chest rig for 8+ mile movements, which shouldn't be impractical at all. I agree with ditching plates for long-range hoofing, though. At that point you're a refugee and should not be in protracted gun battles with anyone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Maybe shut the frick up and don't post until you've done multiple deployments and years in the field
I seriously doubt you have this either. Unless you are obese nothing on your belt should be rubbing against your torso fatty. I carry a lot of weight for long distances. I've worn a belt on 18 mile movements with upwards of 80lbs in my ruck. >waist strap on your pack
Don't use your waist strap. >Kindly explain to the class how you intend to draw mags from your belt in combat from underneath a 150lb ruck you clueless mongoloid cretin.
Step 1: don't carry 150lbs. The only movements I've made with 150lbs I had body armor and a mortar system in a ruck and ammo. You shouldn't be fighting with a rifle under that weight.
Step 2: I did say chest rig.
If I'm wearing a plate carrier at all my total kit should weigh less than 80lbs. That's a reasonable weight for kit running 5 miles if you aren't a fatbody. If I'm traveling more than 8 I'm putting most of my weight into my ruck. >Also the difference between 5 miles and 8 miles is so pathetically insignificant it's laughable. >Literally the no.1 consideration with long distance movements is comfort
Is a 3 mile difference insignificant or is 8 miles long distance? Can't really have both. Also why are you so mad?
>Maybe shut the frick up and don't post until you've done multiple deployments and years in the field
I seriously doubt you have this either. Unless you are obese nothing on your belt should be rubbing against your torso fatty. I carry a lot of weight for long distances. I've worn a belt on 18 mile movements with upwards of 80lbs in my ruck. >waist strap on your pack
Don't use your waist strap. >Kindly explain to the class how you intend to draw mags from your belt in combat from underneath a 150lb ruck you clueless mongoloid cretin.
Step 1: don't carry 150lbs. The only movements I've made with 150lbs I had body armor and a mortar system in a ruck and ammo. You shouldn't be fighting with a rifle under that weight.
Step 2: I did say chest rig.
If I'm wearing a plate carrier at all my total kit should weigh less than 80lbs. That's a reasonable weight for kit running 5 miles if you aren't a fatbody. If I'm traveling more than 8 I'm putting most of my weight into my ruck. >Also the difference between 5 miles and 8 miles is so pathetically insignificant it's laughable. >Literally the no.1 consideration with long distance movements is comfort
Is a 3 mile difference insignificant or is 8 miles long distance? Can't really have both. Also why are you so mad?
2 years ago
Anonymous
strap on your pack >Don't use your waist strap.
I was gonna ask about this. No kidney pads on rucks? I haven't worn my bag and gun belt "out and about" yet, but I tried it on to check and seemed like it would work.
[...]
kek JIDF baiting never gets old
>Implying JIDF
I'm a civvie you frickstick. I just read and watch. A lot. A hell of a lot more than /gq/ for that matter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I use kidney pads I just don't use the weist strap. I buckle it behind the ruck. I also use gun belts that go through the beltloops.
Kinda depends. Are you going for a DMR setup or battle rifle? Do you plan on being with other people who can lay down fire or solo?
If you’re DMRing it you can probably get away with less mags, since you’re going to be shooting less often and (hopefully) more precise. I would say take 6+1. However if you plan on being sediment or engaging at longer ranges, you could always get an extra pack or bandolier and ditch it in a spot you’re posting up at or a stash you’ll return to. This is good for prolonged firefights in extremely rural areas, especially if you’ll be solo.
If you’re just going to be using it as a battle rifle at <200m ranges you’ll want more, ESPECIALLY if you’re going to be solo. I’d say 8+1 maybe more.
>I always thought knee pads were gay until I used em one day while drilling.
How did that convo with yourself go? >"These are gay. Let's dress like a homosexual today."
Where should the bottom of a plate hit on your torso? I need a large for chest width, but worried the length would be too long at that point and get in the way when running. Don't really have a way to try shit on
the sides of the plate should cover your nipples + sit about 2-3 inches above the belly button
If 2 inches is fine then I'm probably good with a large. I feel like it's better to have all the width covered you practically can. There's always going to be some intestine showing.
Unless you get a dangler with abdominal plates yes. The point of the plate carrier is to protect the heart and lungs, you’ll die a lot quicker from a shot there than a shot to the abdomen.
I’ve heard they’ve been selling Chinese made helmets until they get enough capital to set up manufacturing in the US, not sure if I’d trust them. Oxide tested some of their helmets
>Oxide tested some of their helmets
What were the results? Ever one on youtube that has tested the HHV helmets seem to hold up. I'd rather buy american if possible, I have had bad luck with Chinese items in the past and don't want to repeat mistakes.
They're bad and HHV knows what they're doing is wrong. They don't make anything of their own - it's all imported from the same company that makes helmets for airsofters.
The whole "veteran owned" shtick doesnt matter because HHV employs a whole five guys just like Recon Medical did.
They're bad and HHV knows what they're doing is wrong. They don't make anything of their own - it's all imported from the same company that makes helmets for airsofters.
The whole "veteran owned" shtick doesnt matter because HHV employs a whole five guys just like Recon Medical did.
Why does noone know about protection group danmark?
$400 made in Denmark helmets that are 3a rated and tested against 44 magnum
Just make sure you buy directly from them and not from random scam sites.
The one thing I'll say is I noticed he said he bought it from a third party dealer.
I looked into every single third party website selling these and they are all scams. They all sell tons of helmets (mostly listed as level 4, and for cheaper then MSRP) and all of them are fake.
Based on the price I bet he bought it from helmetbro.com
Maybe they are chinesium garbage, but I've seen good reviews from them and I can't help but notice that his bad review says he bought from a third party dealer which I warned about in my original post because as I've said I looked into all the third party dealers and they are scam sites
2 years ago
Anonymous
he very specifically says it's a PGD helmet and that almost any helmet seller on the planet has third parties as middle men
seriously - buy a surplus helmet or a Galvion. unless you want to be disappointed. That level of QC screams HHV under a different label
2 years ago
Anonymous
I have a pgd helmet already, and it's nowhere near as bad as hes saying his is(although my rails are also fricked and everyone in every review ever says the rails are unusable)
And sure all helmet companies have middle men, but most helmet companies have REPUTABLE middlemen.
The only people reselling PGD helmets are helmetbro and bulletproofzone and both of them have sketchy pricing that makes no sense, incorrect NIJ ratings, and seem to be total scams when you look into them
When I have $1300 for a proper helmet I'll definitely upgrade (although I'll probably keep the pads off my PGD since it seems they make the nicest pads and tons of people swap their helmet pads for PGDS, even that redditor said it was comfy) but for now I'm confident it'll hold up to it's protection rating, it looks good, doesn't have unfinished parts that are rusting, and suits my needs just fine as far as mounting a monocle on the front
Again, maybe you are right and they are pure chinesium, but I said it in the first place that the third party sellers all seem like clear fake scams, and he says be bought off a third party.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you don't need $1300 for a helmet from galvion or even gentex and starting with that high of a price makes me think you're being disingenuous
2 years ago
Anonymous
>starting with that high of a price makes me think you're being disingenuous
I guess you are implying I'm a shill for pgd because I'm not just agreeing with you and a single redditor who bought of a sketchy third party websites example?
But I don't know who galvion or gentex are, I've heard Avon is a good name to look for and they run anywhere between $700-1600 depending on the model. A proper good helmet is definitely around $1300.
As far as justasgoodium helmets I think my pgd is just fine, I see no reason to spend another whatever $500-700 to get a gentex or galvion or even lower tier Avon that's only slightly better then my pgd
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don’t know two of the largest contracted PPE manufacturers
Then You have no place in this conversation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Varusteleka had them on their site for a damn long while, infact they still do. Even have their 3a vests on there too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Id probably trust ones bought from varusteleka, but I really don't see a reason to buy fr anyone besides pgd directly.
Also yeah that's something I forgot which helps prove my point that pgd is legit, they make tons of 3a vests and stab proof vests used by police through Europe.
I'm pretty sure that redditor literally just bought a knockoff
2 years ago
Anonymous
Honestly it reads like he's just mad about how his snowflake earpro setup wouldn't work with the helmet and tried to find every little fault he could.
The rails being shit seems like a common complaint though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, everyone says the rails are shit and I can attest to that as well. Before I realized how stupid helmet mounted earpro was I tried to mount my walkers to the pgd, I used like 3 different mounts and not one of them fit because the rail isnt to spec (or at least not to any spec I'm aware of, maybe it's made to some weird proprietary euro police spec for some weird proprietary mounts)
that's basically just a mix of a pattern 83 battle jacket, a FLC and a belt webbing set all in one go. probably costs nothing since it's in that disgusting camo pattern
A load bearing vest with integrated battle belt? The closest thing we ever had was the ELBV, which are pretty easy to find but had a rigid pouch layout. You could stitch a belt pad to the bottom of an FLC vest and get a close approximation. Australians haven't used auscam in nearly a decade, so any of those specific vests will be aging surp that is already sought after by airsofters and gear hoarders that inflate prices. I've seen bong war belts with a mesh harness, but they had nothing on the harness because they were supposed to be worn under a plate carrier.
A load bearing vest with integrated battle belt? The closest thing we ever had was the ELBV, which are pretty easy to find but had a rigid pouch layout. You could stitch a belt pad to the bottom of an FLC vest and get a close approximation. Australians haven't used auscam in nearly a decade, so any of those specific vests will be aging surp that is already sought after by airsofters and gear hoarders that inflate prices. I've seen bong war belts with a mesh harness, but they had nothing on the harness because they were supposed to be worn under a plate carrier.
Thats looks great. Is this available in US?
https://i.imgur.com/yZQ7oYa.jpg
aussie kit is on another level
It's a Land 125 battle jacket. Google DPCU webbing/DPCU vest/auscam vest/AUSCAM jacket. They appear for cheap on Australian ebay every so often.
tl;dr I have an extra padded belt in my box of shit.
Recommendations or inspo on how to rice it out? I'm a chest riggay and don't have a ronin belt so I can't really decide what would go on this padded belt other than just more mags and another ifak
You might be on to something. I think moving most stuff to waist vs back might be less taxing. Especially if you're older or body is broken.
Just spitballing here but; pistol & mags (2?), IFAK, knife, rations, small mess kit, headlamp, fire starter / lighter, and maybe rain poncho thing. kind of an oh shit backup.
You have to be careful with how much shit you put on your belt if it’s not attached to suspenders or anything else that helps take the weight off of your hips, a lot of cops end up developing sciatica from carrying all the shit on their utility belts, that’s why so many cops now keep a lot of their gear on plate carriers or vests
Y'all anons got an recommendations for pistol mag pouches for beltline I'm looking at the esstac mag pouches(no molle on belt) but let me know if I should keep an eye out for other pouches
>AR STD:
Soviet tanker uniform and helmet, balaclava, blue striped telnyashka, Lifchik/Poyas A chest rig, Soviet leather belt, Soviet AK mag pouch, Makarov holster, AK bayonet, Soviet grenade pouch, and some sort of laced possibly Soviet summer boots >SMG:
More or less the same as AR but with a chicom chest rig, leather suspenders attached to the belt, spetsnaz beret, radio handset, and some sort of big bag (maybe gas mask or bread bag) >SMG2
Same as SMG but with a Soviet canteen instead of the big bag, and Soviet jackboots
>get M12 >try to install flap >loop too small to fit around bars
What gives? I don't want to force anything and break the plastic. Can't find a manual so I'm going off a youtube video.
I just got mine in yesterday or the day before. Is a bit annoying to put on, but not really that hard. My big issue is that I put it on a pasgt without modern rigging and shit. So it slides around. Probably not an issue with proper rigging.
Not sure that it would work on a non pasgt as it goes over the brim, and has a strap that holds it onto the helmet via the back.
hand on my heart, please tell me you kids are tugging on my nuts
this is a horrible piece of shit to add to your PASHIT helmet, you already have so much weight, your neck will permanently lean forward from all the weight up front. Good luck aiming down sights with a rifle.
You don't own a pasgt, or get a riot shield for it, because you're worried about weight while using it.
It's also not all that heavy. Just not a good idea wirh the older mounting style that doesn't hold it to your head.
I don't care about your experience wirh helmets, moron.
I don't really care about your opinion on anything as I'm not a fat manlet with more money than ability.
Don't worry your pretty head. No one takes my advice till it's too late.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The issue isn't your experience in general, it's that it doesn't apply to me. Nor is it likely to apply to the guy looking to buy a "heavy" 1.2 pound riot shield.
An opinion of "it's bulky" or "it's not ballastic rated enough for me" would have some weight, if only a little. "I'm too weak for it" doesn't come into play at all for other that might not be so weak.
Also worth noting that the Paulson riot shield weights about the same as a pvs-14 with battery and a mount, but without a counter weight.
What are those thingies on your chest? Also it's a shame that we cannot find those rocket flares. They look useful ass frick, but they are banned because they have an explosive.
Penis.
Also: aid bag guy - I’ll try to get to it this week, it’s been palletized.
Basically though, it’s built around supplementing the dude’s IFAKs. I make every bring into little kits and try to make sure every kit is made of stuff that does more than one thing (et tubes, ace wraps, etc) instead of one thing for every possibility.
And most of the basic MARCH stuff lives on my kit before I have to dip into the bag
damnit i hate hearing contradictory shit. some people say its just different places of manufacture other people say its not for anything other than airsoft. which one is it?
LBX isn't that bad, you're just paying for better stitching quality and such. If you are going to use your kit professionally or want the absolute best then LBT, otherwise airsoft and get higher quality plates.
The stitching and materials are really comparable as I have kit from both LBX and LBT.
Biggest difference between the LBX and LBT is the cummerbund. It's floppy and unsupportive on the LBX.
>So I guess Kore belts aren't recommended?
I have 3 of those belts, they work but aren't duty gear belts. They are tough everyday carry belts. Duty belt have attachment zones for gear, pouches and accessories.
My source bladder nipple broke, the glue keeping the cloth on the tube died, the nipple protector got lost and the guys who sold it to me won’t accept a refund because I bought over 30 days ago. Will the Israelis give me a refund or will I have to buy a new hose?
My source bladder nipple broke, the glue keeping the cloth on the tube died, the nipple protector got lost and the guys who sold it to me won’t accept a refund because I bought over 30 days ago. Will the Israelis give me a refund or will I have to buy a new hose?
Anyone? Source is an Israeli company so I won’t be surprised if they only give me $10 off a new hose
Not him, but would I need to boil water for the RitDye everything recommends for UCP? I don't really have a way to boil water outside and I'd rather not start a fire cause it's really hot here. Could I just use any temperature water, or could I boil it inside and then bring it outside to put my stuff and the dye in?
Ceramics are literally cheaper than steel at this point. RMA (and like 5 other companies I can't think of) make ceramic level four plates that are about $20 cheaper than level 3 steel plates.
>Muh CHETE RING
RMA haven't sold plates with a cheat ring for years now.
>Muh OFFISHUL NIJ RATING
Only moronic boomers care about whether or not a company pays $50000000000 to bribe NIJ to put their product on the NIJ list, and only boomers check that list.
If armor is independently lab tested and proved to meet the NIJ standard that's all that matters.
Also RMA isn't the only company making affordable ceramics. There is no reason to be buying steel plates in 2022 unless you are a contrarian moron who wants to go dunning Kruger mode
R*dditor, RMA sold the 1189 as recently as last year.
The mislabeling problem they have is just as egregious.
The "affordable" fiberglass plate is a joke.
They're just a shit company that makes shit plates.
Now you can run along back to /r/tacticalgear and participate in a circlejerk for da updoots.
2 years ago
Anonymous
*Dies to spall*
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't recommend steel plates at all. I don't think anybody here seriously/unironically does. They're a horrible idea.
Hesco makes good and cheap ceramic plates. Highcom makes good ceramic plates. You can also get all-poly plates relatively cheaply these days.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Also, speaking of which, RMA sells nearly flat and hardly-coated steel plates themselves! This is another manifestation of their extreme greed. "Uhhh, we lowkey think it sucks, but we're going to sell it anyway because some morons might buy it and we really want their shekels."
2 years ago
Anonymous
.A.N.G.E.
???
2 years ago
Anonymous
> Literally 1960s plate technology. Alumina ceramic over fiberglass backer. > 8.5 fricking pounds > Stops a bunch of softball threats, fails to M995.
There are Vietnam-era plates that perform better.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>M995
It's not rated to stop it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Many level IV plates, and some special threat plates that aren't rated to level IV, will.
There's a Ceradyne table from 2003, attached, where they claim they can beat M995 with a 3.9 pound (ICW) plate.
So you're telling me that an 8.5 (!!!) pound "Level IV" plate can't stop M995, and that's "good" performance? It's dogshit, mate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay smartass, what plates aren't dogshit then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Highcom, Hesco, and Hoplite are all much more reputable than RMA. Pick one and find a plate in your price-range.
I like the Highcom Guardian 3s9m.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Like
Highcom, Hesco, and Hoplite are all much more reputable than RMA. Pick one and find a plate in your price-range.
I like the Highcom Guardian 3s9m.
I asked the seller if there was a crye tag on the inside of the platebag and he said there wasn't, but it's old as shit so the tag could just have ripped off. I've asked him if there's a Crye tag on the inside of the shoulder pads.
I should note I'm in a country where the only people who have JPCs are special forces or like an airsofter maybe but no one really does that here
>shoulder pads have onewrap >seems to be the correct shade of tan for the shoulder straps
The reason it looks different is because there's no bungee cords on the kangaroo flap and there are tenspeeds on the front. When he responds with a pic of the shoulder pads if they have the crye logo then the rest of it probably is since it all looks the same level of weathered. What can you see which stands out as wrong?
Why do you want a jpc? Because Garand Thumb has one?
It's uncomfortable, not really that much lighter weight then better plate carriers, not very durable, and leaves the plates somewhat exposed.
Nearly any plate carrier is better than the jpc, even for jumping from a plane.
Self bump but with all these Revengance memes, is Metal Gear coming back or did survive kill the franchise?
if you play videogames you're a fricking loser
>vgggghhhh I'm so trad I do nothing except work and seethe at people online because I'm a virgin and get no pussy
no one cares homosexual
you're a fat manchild incel who can't even see his own dick
>those arms
>that beergut
>calling other people fat
>mindless consumerism
>falling for teh latest gear fad
>calling other people manchildren
we get it, you're same gayging
>gear fad
what?
fat
Give me the base image.
Where do (You) think we are?
Vidya butts thread?
No I don't really save porn.
As opposed to doing what, anon? Watching sports? Walking aimlessly in the woods? Wage-slaving?
>Walking aimlessly in the woods?
That is honestly preferable to video games since you enjoy nature and build strength. You could try your hand at other hobbies?
I'm sorry, I don't think this thread is working out
think guys on to something here....wax then spray paint...sickkkkkk
I spilled chocolate milk on my plate, is it fricked?
bump
I think I'll buy the belt made for killing mosquitoes.
Mind answering which belt is that? Because I fricking hate mosquitoes.
The one with the little dragonfly on it. Get little pouches and have a can of spray in each and Yosemite Sam them.
So it’s just something that can be done with chemlight pouches and regular or basspro bug spray on my belt, oh
How's my helmet setup? I think it's relatively functional
Ballistic mohawk
shut up
decent but figure out what's going on with your suspension. You shouldn't have the straps bunching, turning around, going under or above the hearing protection cup
remember to make room for your pads and the headband
is that an M9 CVC or some other model?
I have pads in the front and back. I took the center one out to fit the strap for the earpro
Do laps and burpess then let your mommy pepper spray you to test your seal. It's the only way to learn how to quit thinking about functionality like a child and start actually finding out like a man.
you should have kept the CVC chinstrap and integrated your earpro into it. or just used the earpro it comes with.
I bought the shell by itself
WTC cs gas?
/r/ing the recommended PC pic and any of the others people might have saved. Last few threads haven't had them posted
Hey BBG, do you have diagnostic equipment in your aid bag like a BP cuff or SPO2 monitor?
"you get what you paid for" applies to that pic?
For the most part. You're paying for qc and add ons.
AWS is unironically just as good. The reason the LABS is cheap is because the panels cost $9 each. And you're probably going to buy six at a minimum.
The ferro is a little overpriced but still very good
I bought a ferro when I had no idea what I wanted or needed and regret it. I wish I'd known about add ons being expensive and proprietary.
Yea, I swear by their stuff but you can’t really go into it blind. A lot of their kit uses their proprietary “adapt” system so you should really piece it together in your head before buying. Next time read the description lmao
>Next time read the description lmao
mfw sold out / not available
Belts are a little different, so not really no. The Blue Alpha gear and Eclipse and AWS are just as good as the other ones. GBRS shit is overpriced trash, just like everything else they sell. Hayley is also trying to sell a belt for like $200-250 or some shit. These belts are literally just an inner velcro with an outer cordura belt with laser cut molle, that's it, not $250 of shit.
there unironically didn't need to be any other belts made after Ronin Tactics came out with theirs over a decade ago
>b-but muh tu samurai larper
dude commercialised a good belt the only people who hate him are seething
yea I agree, all the other belts are just knockoffs, like Hayley's belt is literally the same but 2'' instead of 1.75,
>but but Muh material cost
Doesn't justify it being $100-150 more.
Hayley and these GBRS gays need to just fricking off themselves tbh. Costa too, the fricker shills more than I have ever seen. He's literally shilling tactical lever gats.
>cringe costa
dude has never been in combat it physically hurts to listen to him speak on anything
$50 gear is the same as $150 gear. I don't give a frick what anyone says. People who spend hundreds on rigs are fricking stupid and gay. The only thing worth a lot of money is good plates and night vision, and I don't frick with either and never will, so I don't care.
I generally agree with this.
Sure, you can spend more and get that low-drag, high-speed gears that the ex-socom guys are shilling ... but it takes a special kind of delusional homosexual to think he is going to be running around in a plate carrier, battle helmet, $20K night vision, with coms, a SBR with IR laser and suppressor ... and will be getting into endless CQB battles and clearing buildings. I mean, how much of a wannabe does one have to be? Here is an infinitely more likely scenario in SHTF: you shoot at someone 100-200 yards away who is shooting back at you. In that situation, do you have magnification? Do you have a properly sighted in rifle with good ammo and a good trigger? Have you practiced shooting prone or supported off cover?
I cannot refute.
I think most non military people are just trying to figure this stuff out on their own and get taken in by Leviathan’s marketing influencers. Buying stuff they don’t need because it looks cool.
I would generally agree. Plates, NV, Optics, firearms, shit that matters. A fricking 50 dollar belt vs. 250 GBRS homosexualry isn't going to mean the difference between life and death. Same with shit like jackets and micro rigs and all this other homosexualry. Opscore helmet with good NV, quality plates, carrier, good rifle setup, thermal, IFAK, and hydration is all you need.
a $50 belt vs a $150 belt is the difference between a blackhawk riggers belt or a 2 piece molle belt, one of which will allow you to mount pouches you may want and have some scalability I wouldn't choose belts as the hill to die on
“Yea you don’t need to spend that much”
>opscore helmet
>nods
>good rifle
>thermal
>save $100 on the belt I guess?
to be fair a belt has a lot less potential avenues of failure. If those fricking canvas M1 bandoliers served for 30 years I think most tactical belts, even the cheap ones, will do the job
bando posting should be a bannable offense
you asked for it
man I remember thinking my C&R and being 21 made me an expert
you'll grow out of this phase, too.
don’t tell me you never make meme loadouts with your shit
Meme loadouts are the best, don't let em knock you
Nice look, what hood is that?
It's a surplus Nomex tanker hood, works very well with the millennium
uhm anon, I would actually go to war in that
>oooo I'm 25 unemployed and still in college doing a meme polsci degree
>I'm a man
cool
where are your fricking plates you mong
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. PCs are also the right solution for pouch real estate in the chest & back areas that chest rigs can't accomplish.
Yeah and they have no fricking load bearing structure without the plates, lol. You'll be an aching mess if you try to actually hump that.
the photo was taken the day I got the PC. That’s why there’s literally no pouches in it also. Plates were in the mail still. They’re in now.
You’re not wrong but you’d be encasing yourself in something that would retain an excessive amount of body heat for no reason.
as should being fat and tripgayging
have a nice day
>The only thing worth a lot of money is good plates and night vision, and I don't frick with either and never will, so I don't care.
poors are out in force tonight. RIP to /gq/ lmao.
materialist fools will likely not fare well in the showdown between good and evil
Spotted the Seal wannabe. KEK.
by your own admission, plate and NVGs are worthwhile but you refuse to buy them in spite of recognizing their value. the only conclusion anybody can make is that youre a poorgay. either own what you are or be a seething b***h, its your call.
>hundreds on rigs
well to be fair it’s pretty much impossible to not spend $300 on a PC that offers actual protection. But I agree. Most people will never be in a situation where even condor shit will fail them
>le everyone itt is just larping
I remember when people in the military used to post here. funnily enough the endless bullshit from neverserveds drove most of them away
well military is issued their shit, for the most part. So even if people are military or former their self built rigs likely won’t see any use unless they go into contracting. The ones who do get to choose what their rigs are tend to be pretty fricking hush hush about literally everything they use. I remember there was a story of a knife maker who had a client continually request additions on a knife until he basically created a whole new multi tool knife at the customers behest, and only learned years later that it was a SEAL contracting the perfect knife for his team.
>tfw neither pog nor high speed
>issued gear is just fine but not very interesting
>unit's regs don't give much breathing room for customization and no one else does
I just live my life and larp on the weekends anyways.
R*ddit tier neverserved post
there's technically nothing wrong with other companies making justasgood alternatives, but most of the fabric belts are just reinventing the wheel and slapping a different logo on it
the AXL eclipse belt is the only one which actually used tegris in an innovative and non-moronic way, the Ferro Bison and GBRS are complete and utter shit
Helmets are a waste of money, it limits your movements, adds weight, doesn't protect from shit, and costs a frickton. Why the frick would you buy one
>gets shot in the head and dies
Did you miss the part where they don't protect from fricking rifle rounds?
>all firearms are rifles
>handguns and shrapnel don't exist
>no one in WW1, WW2, Vietnam wore helmet and no body armor
any more genius takes anon?
You're not gonna be sitting in trenches in a war buddy lmao. Same thing with explosives. Just admit you're a moronic larper
try currently in the military and issued a helmet
just admit you're a moronic larper and maybe have a nice day you massive homosexual
>Vietnam
>trenches
Don’t point to a few FOB’s or behind the lines stuff when they wore them out in the jungle while on patrol
They can sometimes. If the rifle round doesn't hit perfectly or if it's coming in from kinda far away, a IIIA helmet can deflect what would've been an otherwise lethal shot. Happened plenty of times in Afghanistan.
Weight vs protection is always a tradeoff you're making, but your head is a pretty important body part and it's worth taking on some weight to protect.
imagine going to war with giant homosexual hair that you have to keep out of your eyes and then b***h about helmets limiting you
>doesn't protect from shit
ok moron
>Ok moron
Tell that to your brain when the helmet caves.
>Why the frick would you buy one
So you don’t end up dying from shrapnel like the two more than likely dead chechens in your pic
You will never be bombarded with artillery in your life moron. You will however have extra worthless weight on your head that'll impair your head movement.
Tu stole the design from the original SMU belts. Parachute riggers had been making them for a decade. Tu is a trash human and doesn’t deserve your money when the new SMU is cheaper AND better quality
>t. Owned and deployed with them all
>Tu is human trash
I’ve heard this before. Can you elaborate?
Yes.
Pulse ox
BP cuff
Stethoscope
ETc02
Thermometer
I/O measure/suction syringe
Do you have a list of your kit?
Of, like, the whole thing?
The whole thing if you have it.
I dont but I can try a new one in a bit. Packing ATM
Different but IIRC, he stole from the uplifts, shot himself through the foot and got b& from the 1 range, claimed “the Unit” despite never being delta and a host of less severe but still scummy shit that you’d think - as a GB - you wouldn’t HAVE to engage in to make it in the gear game
You are a gentleman and a scholar.
Who makes a good inner belt to wear with pants with regular belt loops?
They should all come with one.
it came with a 2" one which is fine for some pants but not for others.
Then those pants have to go.
I have used the ronin 2" inner belt with skinny jeans and even that works fine.
>Skinny jeans
Show bussy
PM'd
Emdom
Twink rex ac1 and Egyptian slicky are priced the same is getting the 7 ton flightless bird lizard make me more of a tool than the Canadian Kangz?
Thanks for helping, but you should have saved the full picture, not a thumb nail of the picture.
hat under helmet is cool. we need to bring it back
very cool
Is that 8 double stacked mags on his abdomen?
Holy shit
It's call of duty, you're really going to need as many rounds as you can get.
I count 5 double stacked, 4 grenade pouches and some sort of multi tool pouch.
I count 10 maybe 12 if those are mags behind his arm
that looks like ten mags
thats how they did it in the GWOT
Most friendlies in cod4 are wearing those wasatch chest rigs. 8+ mags was normal in 2007, 6 or less is a post-surge meme.
reminder the devgru guys who killed osama bin laden took 3 mags and 1 frag and nothing else. almost none of them carried sidearms either
According to the official narrative; that was because the stealthhawks wouldn't be able to make the trip if they were all weighed down, same reason they stripped the seats out. My impression is that they tacitly accepted that if there had been any meaningful military response from the pakis before they got away, they were all dead.
Well when you have over a dozen guys and they all have 90 rounds + 1 in the gun and you are assaulting a small compound with a max of like 2-3 adult males you don't need a full loadout. And Pakis aren't gonna come down on you in < 30 minutes at night, they are busy taking their nightly shit in the streets kek.
Its still interesting reading about their proposed exfil plans if the backup choppers werent able to get to them. Insofar as they were going to walk 100 miles to the border.
Were they planning on carrying his body with them?
they could have just brought his head in the beavertail of a pack, if they hadn't canoed him kek
They probably could have tbh, since they are trained in E&E, if the Pakis never detected them ofc.
a modern day Moore’s March. Would have been interesting if it happened tbh
we would walk around with 6 in the vest + doubled mag in the rifle during deployment, so this this is not that many really
Yes, in actual combat anything less than 6+1 mags would be moronic, in Vietnam SOG guys would carry 7 mags in their canteen pouches alone (picrel)
How many mags should one carry realistically??? 20rd G3 mags specifically.
t. GQ newbie
6+1 for light recon, at least 12 for hiking/camping/exploration, and 18+ if you expect combat.
Different anon here, is that just the numbers for primary mags or is that total mags? I'm wondering how many pistol mags people generally carry, if they bother carrying a pistol plus rifle.
Six plus 1 innagun
Depends on how far you think you'll be moving.
Long range(like 8+ mile movement) = chest rig with 3 mags. 1 or 2 on belt. However many more you think you'll need in your ruck or whatever.
Short range(5 miles or less movement) = plate carrier with 3-5 mags, 2-3 mags on belt, however many more you think youll need in assault pack.
>8+ mile movement
>literally anything on your belt
Kindly commit suicide you moronic homosexual you've never moved 8 miles in your life let alone with gear or in the military. Also the difference between 5 miles and 8 miles is so pathetically insignificant it's laughable. Literally the no.1 consideration with long distance movements is comfort which means no belt friction rubbing against your skin and into the waist strap on your pack and no weight on your chest which means your plate carrier is inserted into your ruck against the pack frame. Kindly explain to the class how you intend to draw mags from your belt in combat from underneath a 150lb ruck you clueless mongoloid cretin. Maybe shut the frick up and don't post until you've done multiple deployments and years in the field
I'm not him, but you're very fricking angry and I'm gonna have to request some kind of bullshit that shows you know what you're talking about
>t. in the middle of conditioning to my kit, doing ruck trips and such
Also you fricked up, the guy said chest rig for 8+ mile movements, which shouldn't be impractical at all. I agree with ditching plates for long-range hoofing, though. At that point you're a refugee and should not be in protracted gun battles with anyone.
kek JIDF baiting never gets old
>Maybe shut the frick up and don't post until you've done multiple deployments and years in the field
I seriously doubt you have this either. Unless you are obese nothing on your belt should be rubbing against your torso fatty. I carry a lot of weight for long distances. I've worn a belt on 18 mile movements with upwards of 80lbs in my ruck.
>waist strap on your pack
Don't use your waist strap.
>Kindly explain to the class how you intend to draw mags from your belt in combat from underneath a 150lb ruck you clueless mongoloid cretin.
Step 1: don't carry 150lbs. The only movements I've made with 150lbs I had body armor and a mortar system in a ruck and ammo. You shouldn't be fighting with a rifle under that weight.
Step 2: I did say chest rig.
If I'm wearing a plate carrier at all my total kit should weigh less than 80lbs. That's a reasonable weight for kit running 5 miles if you aren't a fatbody. If I'm traveling more than 8 I'm putting most of my weight into my ruck.
>Also the difference between 5 miles and 8 miles is so pathetically insignificant it's laughable.
>Literally the no.1 consideration with long distance movements is comfort
Is a 3 mile difference insignificant or is 8 miles long distance? Can't really have both. Also why are you so mad?
strap on your pack
>Don't use your waist strap.
I was gonna ask about this. No kidney pads on rucks? I haven't worn my bag and gun belt "out and about" yet, but I tried it on to check and seemed like it would work.
>Implying JIDF
I'm a civvie you frickstick. I just read and watch. A lot. A hell of a lot more than /gq/ for that matter.
I use kidney pads I just don't use the weist strap. I buckle it behind the ruck. I also use gun belts that go through the beltloops.
Kinda depends. Are you going for a DMR setup or battle rifle? Do you plan on being with other people who can lay down fire or solo?
If you’re DMRing it you can probably get away with less mags, since you’re going to be shooting less often and (hopefully) more precise. I would say take 6+1. However if you plan on being sediment or engaging at longer ranges, you could always get an extra pack or bandolier and ditch it in a spot you’re posting up at or a stash you’ll return to. This is good for prolonged firefights in extremely rural areas, especially if you’ll be solo.
If you’re just going to be using it as a battle rifle at <200m ranges you’ll want more, ESPECIALLY if you’re going to be solo. I’d say 8+1 maybe more.
six + one in the rifle
nice one anon
Thoughts on knee and elbow pads? Also I just realized these guys wore MP-40 mags on their legs
Only acceptable knee pads, non built in elbow pads are for pussies.
I have these, the hype is real. They work very well.
I always thought knee pads were gay until I used em one day while drilling. 8/10 would recommend but you look like a queerosexual wearing em
Elbow pads are legitimately gay. Knee pads are common sense in cities and mountains.
>I always thought knee pads were gay until I used em one day while drilling.
How did that convo with yourself go?
>"These are gay. Let's dress like a homosexual today."
Banged up my knee the day prior but still wanted to practice.
>I couldn’t think of a funny reply so here’s just what happened ig
Thread is really dead tonight isn't it
Where should the bottom of a plate hit on your torso? I need a large for chest width, but worried the length would be too long at that point and get in the way when running. Don't really have a way to try shit on
Is there a diagram with a skinny twink physique so I can more accurately compare?
the sides of the plate should cover your nipples + sit about 2-3 inches above the belly button
Don’t worry just post a nude pic, preferably shaved and oiled up, then we can help show how to properly align your plate
Anon…that is a skinny twink physique pictured
Go lift right now
If 2 inches is fine then I'm probably good with a large. I feel like it's better to have all the width covered you practically can. There's always going to be some intestine showing.
Unless you get a dangler with abdominal plates yes. The point of the plate carrier is to protect the heart and lungs, you’ll die a lot quicker from a shot there than a shot to the abdomen.
what size if youre 10.5 inches accross the nips and 10 inches after subrtracting 3 inches from the bottom?
Make an educated guess.
critical thinking? i would never
So I'm not the only who thinks the MSF uniforms are better then the Diamond Dogs ones?
What BDUs have closest resemblance to those of the diamond dogs?
Vietnam era helicopter crewman uniform or just normal jungle fatigues with the blouse tucked into the pants
How are galvion helmets? i was gonna get a team wendy but these look like a good budget option, and the site says it's IIIA.
>Same company that was Revision protective eyewear, sold it and started new company
Interesting
How so? I was issued revision shit in the army, obviously it's not the best but it works right?
Nothing I was just saying it's interesting seeing older companies expand into other things.
Hard head veterans have a better deal going
Based. Thanks anon.
have a nice day
Stop
I’ve heard they’ve been selling Chinese made helmets until they get enough capital to set up manufacturing in the US, not sure if I’d trust them. Oxide tested some of their helmets
>Oxide tested some of their helmets
What were the results? Ever one on youtube that has tested the HHV helmets seem to hold up. I'd rather buy american if possible, I have had bad luck with Chinese items in the past and don't want to repeat mistakes.
They're bad and HHV knows what they're doing is wrong. They don't make anything of their own - it's all imported from the same company that makes helmets for airsofters.
The whole "veteran owned" shtick doesnt matter because HHV employs a whole five guys just like Recon Medical did.
Why does noone know about protection group danmark?
$400 made in Denmark helmets that are 3a rated and tested against 44 magnum
Just make sure you buy directly from them and not from random scam sites.
chinese made and assembled in denmark
there is a thread I can link you to
Link me up
>inb4 plebbit
https://www.reddit.com/r/QualityTacticalGear/comments/r1m7or/the_protection_group_denmark_arch_something/
The one thing I'll say is I noticed he said he bought it from a third party dealer.
I looked into every single third party website selling these and they are all scams. They all sell tons of helmets (mostly listed as level 4, and for cheaper then MSRP) and all of them are fake.
Based on the price I bet he bought it from helmetbro.com
Maybe they are chinesium garbage, but I've seen good reviews from them and I can't help but notice that his bad review says he bought from a third party dealer which I warned about in my original post because as I've said I looked into all the third party dealers and they are scam sites
he very specifically says it's a PGD helmet and that almost any helmet seller on the planet has third parties as middle men
seriously - buy a surplus helmet or a Galvion. unless you want to be disappointed. That level of QC screams HHV under a different label
I have a pgd helmet already, and it's nowhere near as bad as hes saying his is(although my rails are also fricked and everyone in every review ever says the rails are unusable)
And sure all helmet companies have middle men, but most helmet companies have REPUTABLE middlemen.
The only people reselling PGD helmets are helmetbro and bulletproofzone and both of them have sketchy pricing that makes no sense, incorrect NIJ ratings, and seem to be total scams when you look into them
When I have $1300 for a proper helmet I'll definitely upgrade (although I'll probably keep the pads off my PGD since it seems they make the nicest pads and tons of people swap their helmet pads for PGDS, even that redditor said it was comfy) but for now I'm confident it'll hold up to it's protection rating, it looks good, doesn't have unfinished parts that are rusting, and suits my needs just fine as far as mounting a monocle on the front
Again, maybe you are right and they are pure chinesium, but I said it in the first place that the third party sellers all seem like clear fake scams, and he says be bought off a third party.
you don't need $1300 for a helmet from galvion or even gentex and starting with that high of a price makes me think you're being disingenuous
>starting with that high of a price makes me think you're being disingenuous
I guess you are implying I'm a shill for pgd because I'm not just agreeing with you and a single redditor who bought of a sketchy third party websites example?
But I don't know who galvion or gentex are, I've heard Avon is a good name to look for and they run anywhere between $700-1600 depending on the model. A proper good helmet is definitely around $1300.
As far as justasgoodium helmets I think my pgd is just fine, I see no reason to spend another whatever $500-700 to get a gentex or galvion or even lower tier Avon that's only slightly better then my pgd
>I don’t know two of the largest contracted PPE manufacturers
Then You have no place in this conversation.
Varusteleka had them on their site for a damn long while, infact they still do. Even have their 3a vests on there too.
Id probably trust ones bought from varusteleka, but I really don't see a reason to buy fr anyone besides pgd directly.
Also yeah that's something I forgot which helps prove my point that pgd is legit, they make tons of 3a vests and stab proof vests used by police through Europe.
I'm pretty sure that redditor literally just bought a knockoff
Honestly it reads like he's just mad about how his snowflake earpro setup wouldn't work with the helmet and tried to find every little fault he could.
The rails being shit seems like a common complaint though.
Yeah, everyone says the rails are shit and I can attest to that as well. Before I realized how stupid helmet mounted earpro was I tried to mount my walkers to the pgd, I used like 3 different mounts and not one of them fit because the rail isnt to spec (or at least not to any spec I'm aware of, maybe it's made to some weird proprietary euro police spec for some weird proprietary mounts)
I ordered a set of platesin late february, and got them shipped to Poland just 3 weeks ago
aussie kit is on another level
brits too. belt kits & bullpups. perfect light infantry
PLCE is hands done some of the best stuff there is.
that's basically just a mix of a pattern 83 battle jacket, a FLC and a belt webbing set all in one go. probably costs nothing since it's in that disgusting camo pattern
Thats looks great. Is this available in US?
A load bearing vest with integrated battle belt? The closest thing we ever had was the ELBV, which are pretty easy to find but had a rigid pouch layout. You could stitch a belt pad to the bottom of an FLC vest and get a close approximation. Australians haven't used auscam in nearly a decade, so any of those specific vests will be aging surp that is already sought after by airsofters and gear hoarders that inflate prices. I've seen bong war belts with a mesh harness, but they had nothing on the harness because they were supposed to be worn under a plate carrier.
thank you fren, appreciate it
It's a Land 125 battle jacket. Google DPCU webbing/DPCU vest/auscam vest/AUSCAM jacket. They appear for cheap on Australian ebay every so often.
tyvm
go to gumtree.com.au
>gumtree.com.au
I'll check it out thanks
It’s just an FLC vest but with a proper back molle pad and in auscam
Love me some vest with integrated belt kit
tl;dr I have an extra padded belt in my box of shit.
Recommendations or inspo on how to rice it out? I'm a chest riggay and don't have a ronin belt so I can't really decide what would go on this padded belt other than just more mags and another ifak
You might be on to something. I think moving most stuff to waist vs back might be less taxing. Especially if you're older or body is broken.
Just spitballing here but; pistol & mags (2?), IFAK, knife, rations, small mess kit, headlamp, fire starter / lighter, and maybe rain poncho thing. kind of an oh shit backup.
You have to be careful with how much shit you put on your belt if it’s not attached to suspenders or anything else that helps take the weight off of your hips, a lot of cops end up developing sciatica from carrying all the shit on their utility belts, that’s why so many cops now keep a lot of their gear on plate carriers or vests
>padded belt with harness lashing points
Belt kit time.
Y'all anons got an recommendations for pistol mag pouches for beltline I'm looking at the esstac mag pouches(no molle on belt) but let me know if I should keep an eye out for other pouches
>Have a Crye SPC
>Have 6x8 sideplates
>Crye only makes 6x6 sideplate pouches
What do?
you can buy 6x8 side plate pouches that attach to MOLLE
you're talking to poor people
just shave 2 inches off the plate. it'll be fine
I don't mind being poor. I like the look of expensive things.
Hello. Can I get an ID on all of the gear of AR STD and SMG guys?
Russian tanker helmet
Balaclava
Chicom chest rig variant
Black uniform
Not all of the gear but thanks for trying
Oh shit hivemind
The Vietnam soviet soldiers, Cuba and second part of Desperate Measures Adler are my favorite costumesi in the game
>AR STD:
Soviet tanker uniform and helmet, balaclava, blue striped telnyashka, Lifchik/Poyas A chest rig, Soviet leather belt, Soviet AK mag pouch, Makarov holster, AK bayonet, Soviet grenade pouch, and some sort of laced possibly Soviet summer boots
>SMG:
More or less the same as AR but with a chicom chest rig, leather suspenders attached to the belt, spetsnaz beret, radio handset, and some sort of big bag (maybe gas mask or bread bag)
>SMG2
Same as SMG but with a Soviet canteen instead of the big bag, and Soviet jackboots
Thanks man
Cod Black Ops Cold War has some kino gear
>get M12
>try to install flap
>loop too small to fit around bars
What gives? I don't want to force anything and break the plastic. Can't find a manual so I'm going off a youtube video.
How do you tell a replica from a real pasgt helmets?
Shoot it.
a fake one sounds hollow and is lighter. try poking it too see if it dents
Is lightweight helmet actually better than PASGT helmet?
Yes
w2c that cat ear balaclava the soviets used in afghanistan?
Thoughts on this piece of equipment?
https://kommandostore.com/collections/usgi/products/riot-face-shield
I just got mine in yesterday or the day before. Is a bit annoying to put on, but not really that hard. My big issue is that I put it on a pasgt without modern rigging and shit. So it slides around. Probably not an issue with proper rigging.
Not sure that it would work on a non pasgt as it goes over the brim, and has a strap that holds it onto the helmet via the back.
hand on my heart, please tell me you kids are tugging on my nuts
this is a horrible piece of shit to add to your PASHIT helmet, you already have so much weight, your neck will permanently lean forward from all the weight up front. Good luck aiming down sights with a rifle.
You don't own a pasgt, or get a riot shield for it, because you're worried about weight while using it.
It's also not all that heavy. Just not a good idea wirh the older mounting style that doesn't hold it to your head.
yeah tell me more how I don't have experience with helmets
You will 100% regret putting that thing on your ancient, shit helmet design.
I don't care about your experience wirh helmets, moron.
I don't really care about your opinion on anything as I'm not a fat manlet with more money than ability.
Don't worry your pretty head. No one takes my advice till it's too late.
The issue isn't your experience in general, it's that it doesn't apply to me. Nor is it likely to apply to the guy looking to buy a "heavy" 1.2 pound riot shield.
An opinion of "it's bulky" or "it's not ballastic rated enough for me" would have some weight, if only a little. "I'm too weak for it" doesn't come into play at all for other that might not be so weak.
Also worth noting that the Paulson riot shield weights about the same as a pvs-14 with battery and a mount, but without a counter weight.
your dingo looks a bit low on fuel
Where is your helmet cover fatty?
why didn't you post this picture you disgusting hairy lebo
Not much of a point if you plan of facing people with guns, plus it'll get in the way of aiming and fog up. If you're a europoor, that's different
virgin minimalist pc vs chad full coverage
That's a fricking repro isn't it?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/374203592640?hash=item572045afc0:g:FbcAAOSw6S9i7Ucz
undoubtedly, but it's for a PASHIT so don't bother. Seriously, the MICH is a huge upgrade, ECH even better if you can spring for $500.
almost 200 posts and not a single decent piece of kit
"nice" milsurp
It's like a 25 cent knockoff of Administrative Results.
What vest?
6b2 + chicom
>6b2
Nice, you got titanium plates for it? How much was it?
What are those thingies on your chest? Also it's a shame that we cannot find those rocket flares. They look useful ass frick, but they are banned because they have an explosive.
https://grey-shop.ru/Bastion-Afghan-Body-Armor-6b2
>greyshop
looks good
>those fingers
How many shirts are you wearing to make yourself not look like a skellington?
Penis.
Also: aid bag guy - I’ll try to get to it this week, it’s been palletized.
Basically though, it’s built around supplementing the dude’s IFAKs. I make every bring into little kits and try to make sure every kit is made of stuff that does more than one thing (et tubes, ace wraps, etc) instead of one thing for every possibility.
And most of the basic MARCH stuff lives on my kit before I have to dip into the bag
I figured that, so what other things do you have in it that maybe aren’t supplements to ifaks or part of the march algorithm?
Whats the difference between lbt 6094 and lbx 6094
have you considered looking at their pages?
USA vs Peru manufacturing
cool, I'd rather save the cost difference for the plates.
damnit i hate hearing contradictory shit. some people say its just different places of manufacture other people say its not for anything other than airsoft. which one is it?
LBX isn't that bad, you're just paying for better stitching quality and such. If you are going to use your kit professionally or want the absolute best then LBT, otherwise airsoft and get higher quality plates.
The stitching and materials are really comparable as I have kit from both LBX and LBT.
Biggest difference between the LBX and LBT is the cummerbund. It's floppy and unsupportive on the LBX.
I need a 6"x5"x2.5" pouch. It's for a pelican 1010. Anyone here have any recommendations?
That middle mag seems hard to get to.
>doomer bullshit
ngmi
It's not and the best part about being a doomer is that tou still win regardless of whether you MI or not
bros i hate multicam now, anyone have a medium RG slickster they wanna trade?
OD green is the new meta
are the groove pliers part of your kit? Not a bad idea to have those frickers can do anything
Why do you have so many little ankle height couches in your house?
So I guess Kore belts aren't recommended?
Looks like it would work, but it also looks like it's essentially just a regular ass belt.
>So I guess Kore belts aren't recommended?
I have 3 of those belts, they work but aren't duty gear belts. They are tough everyday carry belts. Duty belt have attachment zones for gear, pouches and accessories.
Duty Belt =/= Carry belt
>attachment zones
any tactical parka that looks like it could be fit in warfare?
lads, where can one cop rhodesian brushstroke shorts that aren't absolute dogshit quality?
Zero Foxtrot makes some. Better be damn good quality at $40
My source bladder nipple broke, the glue keeping the cloth on the tube died, the nipple protector got lost and the guys who sold it to me won’t accept a refund because I bought over 30 days ago. Will the Israelis give me a refund or will I have to buy a new hose?
Hydrapak or Camelbak
Ok but will ~~*source tactical*~~ give me a refund/replacement and are those two BPA free?
Anyone? Source is an Israeli company so I won’t be surprised if they only give me $10 off a new hose
Does any company make something similar to Arcteryx LEAF shit that doesn't cost $600 for a down jacket?
Carinthia might be a bit cheaper
Snugpak
What's a good patrol set up? LBE or micro rig. Looking to buy property soon and my autism has me thinking far ahead
Man I want that drip, makes me
Diamond
Hey XOF op if you're still around, where did you buy the tinted visor for your AV3000?
Not him, but would I need to boil water for the RitDye everything recommends for UCP? I don't really have a way to boil water outside and I'd rather not start a fire cause it's really hot here. Could I just use any temperature water, or could I boil it inside and then bring it outside to put my stuff and the dye in?
Why do army uses armor systems with 5 ceramic plates and kevlar padding everywhere meanwhile civies prefer one steel plate.
>Why do army uses armor systems with 5 ceramic plates and kevlar padding everywhere
?????
>meanwhile civies prefer one steel plate
?????????
homosexuals, this place is a joke. Reddit is more helpful than this shithole.
>my question IS NOT stupid
Merely pretending
civilians are cheap
i'm definitely going to work my way up to having all that crap
Ceramics are literally cheaper than steel at this point. RMA (and like 5 other companies I can't think of) make ceramic level four plates that are about $20 cheaper than level 3 steel plates.
I’d trust steel over RMA.
>Muh CHETE RING
RMA haven't sold plates with a cheat ring for years now.
>Muh OFFISHUL NIJ RATING
Only moronic boomers care about whether or not a company pays $50000000000 to bribe NIJ to put their product on the NIJ list, and only boomers check that list.
If armor is independently lab tested and proved to meet the NIJ standard that's all that matters.
Also RMA isn't the only company making affordable ceramics. There is no reason to be buying steel plates in 2022 unless you are a contrarian moron who wants to go dunning Kruger mode
If Diamond Age ever makes steel plates I'll probably give them a look.
>diamond age
>steel
R*dditor, RMA sold the 1189 as recently as last year.
The mislabeling problem they have is just as egregious.
The "affordable" fiberglass plate is a joke.
They're just a shit company that makes shit plates.
Now you can run along back to /r/tacticalgear and participate in a circlejerk for da updoots.
*Dies to spall*
I don't recommend steel plates at all. I don't think anybody here seriously/unironically does. They're a horrible idea.
Hesco makes good and cheap ceramic plates. Highcom makes good ceramic plates. You can also get all-poly plates relatively cheaply these days.
Also, speaking of which, RMA sells nearly flat and hardly-coated steel plates themselves! This is another manifestation of their extreme greed. "Uhhh, we lowkey think it sucks, but we're going to sell it anyway because some morons might buy it and we really want their shekels."
.A.N.G.E.
???
> Literally 1960s plate technology. Alumina ceramic over fiberglass backer.
> 8.5 fricking pounds
> Stops a bunch of softball threats, fails to M995.
There are Vietnam-era plates that perform better.
>M995
It's not rated to stop it
Many level IV plates, and some special threat plates that aren't rated to level IV, will.
There's a Ceradyne table from 2003, attached, where they claim they can beat M995 with a 3.9 pound (ICW) plate.
So you're telling me that an 8.5 (!!!) pound "Level IV" plate can't stop M995, and that's "good" performance? It's dogshit, mate.
Okay smartass, what plates aren't dogshit then?
Highcom, Hesco, and Hoplite are all much more reputable than RMA. Pick one and find a plate in your price-range.
I like the Highcom Guardian 3s9m.
Like
said there are loads, I like my Hesco 4400’s
Ceradyne
Do you even own plates? Post your setup.
RMA is not NIJ certified
are you moronic or is this bait?
Does this looks like real Crye JPC 1?
I asked the seller if there was a crye tag on the inside of the platebag and he said there wasn't, but it's old as shit so the tag could just have ripped off. I've asked him if there's a Crye tag on the inside of the shoulder pads.
I should note I'm in a country where the only people who have JPCs are special forces or like an airsofter maybe but no one really does that here
that doesn't even look like a jpc if you squint
https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/blc04202lg0_jumpable-plate-carrier-jpc
>shoulder pads have onewrap
>seems to be the correct shade of tan for the shoulder straps
The reason it looks different is because there's no bungee cords on the kangaroo flap and there are tenspeeds on the front. When he responds with a pic of the shoulder pads if they have the crye logo then the rest of it probably is since it all looks the same level of weathered. What can you see which stands out as wrong?
Why do you want a jpc? Because Garand Thumb has one?
It's uncomfortable, not really that much lighter weight then better plate carriers, not very durable, and leaves the plates somewhat exposed.
Nearly any plate carrier is better than the jpc, even for jumping from a plane.
More pics?
JPC1s have changed over time
got these as a gift:
https://www.rei.com/product/193884/salomon-quest-element-gtx-hiking-boots-mens
are these good innawoods shoes for larping?