Fun fact about the Russian/Chinese Navies

Admiral Kuznetsov was built in Nikolaev, Ukrainian Soviet Republic, and was essentially stolen by a Russian admiral in 1991 during the collapse of the USSR:
> In late 1991, after the August putsch and the declaration of Ukrainian independence, Ukrainian President Leonid Kravchuk sent a telegram to the ship's commander, Viktor Yarygin, stating that the Admiral Kuznetsov was Ukrainian property and that the ship should remain in Sevastopol until the Ukrainian government decided on its fate.
> The deputy commander of the Northern Fleet, Yuri Ustimenko, arrived urgently from the Arctic to preempt the Ukrainian government and ordered the Admiral Kuznetsov to Vidyaevo so that the ship could remain part of the Soviet Russian Navy.
Oh, and the infamous "Moskva" was also built in Nikolaev.
So was China's PLA flagship, the Type 001 aircraft carrier "Liaoning" (bought by China from Ukraine in 1998 and completed at the Dalian Naval Shipyard in northeast China).

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is just a reverse cargo cult without the other parts of the Union.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's a 90% finished but thoroughly rusted out and obsolete Slava class sitting in Mykolaiv right now. Frankly I'm surprised Russia hasn't wasted a Kh-22 on it. I know it's a rusted out write-off but it would be really, really funny if Ukraine finished the ship to NATO standards with NATO systems after the war

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They are saving it to replace the Moskva.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well that's a bit silly of them, given their complete and repeatedly demonstrated inability to capture Mykolaiv.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Still a lot more probable than the Russian ship construction industry magically start producing modern ships at a reasonable rate.

          https://i.imgur.com/dkjQmg0.png

          >it would be really, really funny if Ukraine finished the ship to NATO standards with NATO systems after the war
          They had already refurbished it to NATO standards, but were forced to scuttle it so that the Russians could not seize it and use it against the Ukrainians.

          That's not a Slava class moron.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            IIRC post-1991 Russia doesn't have military shipyards that can build anything the size of a Slava-class and Monke's delusions of grandeur can't have that so one of the main objectives of this invasion was Mykolaiv. That they couldn't go further than Kherson is a failure second only to the Kyiv "feint".

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yep, the largest ships Russia has built are frigates.
              Russia only nominally has a blue water navy by coasting off the USSR.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >it would be really, really funny if Ukraine finished the ship to NATO standards with NATO systems after the war
      They had already refurbished it to NATO standards, but were forced to scuttle it so that the Russians could not seize it and use it against the Ukrainians.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >frigate
        Are you trolling or moronic?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Still a lot more probable than the Russian ship construction industry magically start producing modern ships at a reasonable rate.

          [...]
          That's not a Slava class moron.

          Yep, being a moron here and mixed the two vessel classes, my bad.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Shit happens.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Fair enough, but the screenshot you posted literally has the name of the ship as the first line, and the headline calls it a frigate (Slavas are cruisers except Moskva, which was promoted to submarine)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >When Ukraine gets the Admiral Kuznetsov as war reparations

        What's ironic is that Russia never even reached that shipyard and so they scuttled it for nothing.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >What's ironic is that Russia never even reached that shipyard and so they scuttled it for nothing.
          It was done as a preemptive measure, all ok.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The Russian Bear hadn't revealed itself to be a panda yet, so I cant blame them.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          russian ship designs are designed to kill every single person on board if even a .22lr hit it, so scuttling russian death traps saves lives.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I sacrifice 2 ships from the field to summon the smoker

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    All of the Soviet carriers were built in Nikolayev. I think the only really large Soviet surface warships that were built in what is now the RF (at least after the 50s or so) are the Kirovs. Not sure if the Baltic Shipyard could still handle building something that big nowadays.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Learn the difference between Nikolayev and Mykolaiv.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > Learn the difference between Nikolayev and Mykolaiv.
      There's none - same city in Russian (Nikolayev) and in Ukrainian (Mykolaiv) writing.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's the same thing in two different language, both of which are widely spoken in Ukraine (one formally, the other informally)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The correct name is Nikolajew.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >boat thread
    This thing is visiting here today, say something nice to it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ay is this Helsinki? Looks nice actually.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yup Helsinki Hernesaari port specifically

        Which helicopter carrier is this?

        USS Kearsarge

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          we had taht ship over at tallinn a few months ago.
          Surprisingly large for a ship that small

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            > Surprisingly large for a ship that small
            Wat

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Which helicopter carrier is this?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      we had taht ship over at tallinn a few months ago.
      Surprisingly large for a ship that small

      I hope the visiting sailors are / were nice

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >bunch of NATO ships visiting copenhagen before or after an exercise
      >bongs
      >danes
      >dutch
      >german
      >germans send this fricker
      >the schleswig-holstein
      >to denmark
      And they say Krauts don't have a sense of humour.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's the Schleswig-Hostein situation, again, again.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      We used to call it the USS Queerbarge.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    are you implying that the soviet union built its shipyard on (then) its own territory, near a giant industrial center in a region rich in resources? madness!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >are you implying that the soviet union built its shipyard on (then) its own territory
      The USSR did not build it. In fact, that shipyard is at least 100 years older than the USSR itself.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The town itself was only founded in 1789. Before that the area was Turkish.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine being the military industrial core of the USSR is something the Russians will never admit.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine stole Nikolaev from Russia and Russia is about to fix it
    Btw pic related is a ukrainian moskva sistership

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > Btw pic related is a ukrainian moskva sistership
      At least it's still afloat.

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