The Russians have been complaining pretty loudly about the absolute state of their air defense recently. Some were even saying the Ukies are flying helos and attack aircraft near the front lines.
Maybe they brought those aircraft closer to try and spot them in time?
It seems like the Yooks have finally hit a tipping point of degrading pozziyan air defense, especially after taking those oil platforms and wasting multiple S-400's on Crimea
By many accounts they're now able to safely fly helos and frogfoots over combat zones, which means the puccians have the choice of either eating shit or shifting assets, either one gives ample opportunities for the Yooks to frick them in the ass and in this case they brought up AWACS too far.
This is how the war is going to degenerate for them going forward - they lose capacity, they're forced to either reorient their force organisation or bring older shit out of mothballs, the new paradigm exposes them to lose even more shit -> the spiral accelerates
How fricking cool is it to be the special forces guys tasked with taking those oil platforms? The mission is so cool, so important, so well done. They even got to fire a manpad at a Russian jet to chase it off like out of some kind of movie.
They took out Russia’s radar systems then installed their own. That opened up gaps that Ukraine has been exploiting to hit Crimea ever since.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>They even got to fire a manpad at a Russian jet to chase it off like out of some kind of movie.
RAMIREZ! GET THE STINGER AND TAKE OUT THAT FIGHTER!
I mean sure, but if you're trying to down such a high-profile and expensive asset you only really get one shot and will want to use something that will 100% work, not Soviet trash.
Why the hell are they flying that close to the front
What about S-200D „Dubna” wikipedia says it has 300km range
I mean sure, but if you're trying to down such a high-profile and expensive asset you only really get one shot and will want to use something that will 100% work, not Soviet trash.
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Their equipment is bad and they're Russian
In any case I think the source of their targeting information is probably a more interesting topic than the specific munition used
Interesting that they're claiming the IL-22M was destroyed. Here's hoping we get some images of it, assuming that the Ruskies weren't just lying about it limping back, to get a good BDA though I suspect it's in pretty bad shape even if it made it back
Even if it (crash)landed, it's likely a hull loss. Just because you can make it back safely, it doesn't mean the plane will ever fly again.
There was that Embraer used by a Belarussian airline that got cross-wired by mistake during overhaul, and, after the pilots eventually managed to land it, got immediately scrapped since it was bent like a banana from all the impromptu aerobatics.
It's a command post with frickload of electronics in it. If it was shredded enough this shit won't be repaired
Yes, and I said I suspected as much in my post, I'm just commenting that the Ukrainian assessment implies they have good BDA, more than just us extrapolating from there being reportedly 200s and 300s on the plane. I want to look at what a plane looks like after being peppered by a PAC-2 warhead
Even if it (crash)landed, it's likely a hull loss. Just because you can make it back safely, it doesn't mean the plane will ever fly again.
There was that Embraer used by a Belarussian airline that got cross-wired by mistake during overhaul, and, after the pilots eventually managed to land it, got immediately scrapped since it was bent like a banana from all the impromptu aerobatics.
>aircraft landed therefore it can't possibly have been destroyed
Do you understand that damage can render an aircraft unusable even if it could limp back?
Since Russia always lies we can apply the russia rule. >If you don't see it, they don't have it
We didn't see the aircrafts, so they don't have them anymore.
I assume targets circling around on the same spot was an evasion maneuvering, and seeing how they lost a signal, it wasn't successful.
I would assume that one target just dropped into the sea on the same spot it was hit, and the second one was only damaged and managed to fly away though it was steering in the wrong direction before losing signal, so I doubt it returned to the airbase under its own power.
I'm assuming the 2 that disappear after a straight line are probably fine, but the one that disappears after a jagged line is probably not doing too swell.
actually I'd wager the colors are probably based on altitude with bluer=lower, so the jagged flight path one was rather low after it disappeared from radar
Well, that would be the natural conclusion, but that means that someone who took part in the planning shitposted about it here before it happened, and was confident that the vatBlack folk wouldn't pick up on it.
Armatard's curse is apparently still a thing, for those who don't know: Things Armatard shilled often had bad stuff happen to it after he shilled it excessively. Most prominent examples: >Su-57, first production model crashed shortly after it was produced, caused a major meltdown of him >Pantsir AA-System, got shat on by literally everything it was meant to easily destroy by him >Mig-31, he claimed nothing can shoot it down, then one was shot down by another Mig-31 by accident >Kuznetsov, went down to Syria after extreme delays, lost two planes against goat herders and limped back to Russia only to stay indefinitely in a 'to be fixed in a few years' state >...
>Now the question is, why did someone post about the A-50 on /k/ the day before it got shot down?
You're noticing. It's fun once you start noticing.
There is nothing to 'notice' morons. The reason was because BulgarianMilitary did an article on how the A-50 was finding the Su-24-To to stop them launching SS. So somebody made a shitpost thread. It's called a coincidence. They happen every day.
Take your pick gentleman >russia is massively moronic and Yevgeny'd their own shit >yooks PAC-2'd their shit (this has happened before over belgorod IIRC)
both are equally humiliating for Russia.
I'm voting for option number 3 >Intentional fragging of the Il-22 command plane to assassinate some specific officers as part of internal MoD politics, A-50 either collateral damage or hit to cover up tracks.
I fricking hate polish. Using latin script like morons for when it doesn't even have half the latters you use wasn't enough for them, they just NEEDED to use the most unintuitive and uncommon latter combinations to make up for those sounds. They've could just adopt cyrillic like normal slavs do and it would've made their language twice shorter and ten times more easily readable, but I swear to God those fricking subhumans deliberately choose to bastardize their own language just for the sake of fricking larp.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Latin script Slavs
Most successful Slavic nations like Poland, Czechs and Croats >Cyrillic script Slavs
Backwards, crime infested, dystopian hellscapes.
Yeah nah, Poles did right to avoid the cursed script.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong. The Poles use the "tail" or "circumflex" as French call it, to denote special effects.
They use ę in their "thank you," for example.
In other words, there's an easy fix for the letter soup. Instead of something like sz and cz, they could write ş or ç.
Other languages alreadybdo this with things like ś or ṣ. Romanian for example.
And I bet so do Hungarians and Czechs, and Slovaks, but that's just a guess.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I honestly agree, Czech and Slovak bros really got it right with their special letter equivalents to sz cz. If we did that all the common complaints disappear
4 months ago
Anonymous
> they just NEEDED to use the most unintuitive and uncommon latter combinations to make up for those sounds
Digraphs have to be uncommon combinations. Otherwise they'd get confused for two vowels.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Or they could have just adopted cyrillic at least partially and use a single latter for what they need four now.
Latin is a scurge of European languages. Anything north of Pyrenees had to come up with schizophrenic rules to work with latin script.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Deal with it
4 months ago
Anonymous
He’s soo close to getting it
4 months ago
Anonymous
Is IKEA considered high quality in Eastern Europe or is that a Russian thing?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Is IKEA considered high quality in Eastern Europe
Yes
4 months ago
Anonymous
Some other Anon explained that Ikea is seen as luxury, but of an attainable sort. The average russian will never drive a modern car, but with a smaller loan he can afford to buy a sofa and bookshelf.
4 months ago
Anonymous
the reason why many young people even in OECD countries buy IKEA is that it is a highly durable, attractive and affordable middle-class option. you would have to pay 2-3 times the price for something that lasts 10 times longer.
needing a loan for a single Ikea sofa, holy shit lmao
regarding this guy's take on Polish Ikea sofas... domestic russian news reported that a Russian's average monthly salary is 1,000 dollars, and average monthly disposable income is 200 US dollars. a basic b***h Polish corner set is 2000 zlotys or 500 US dollars. the nice thing about Ikea being standardised worldwide is that the price isn't going to be extremely far removed.
so yeah, imagine if a sofa cost you half a month's salary. and imagine the typical Telegramming poorgay, who might conceivably be below even the Russian average. you betcha he would be taking out a loan for an Ikea sofa.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>average $1000 monthly >the left hand side of the bellcurve makes even less than that >and instead of wanting to maybe improve that for themselves they want to destroy everyone elses nice shit
also unrelated does that sofa have a pull out storage unit under it? I am unironically in the market for a new one
4 months ago
Anonymous
what am I, a furniture salesman?
consult your local IKEA anon, cmon
4 months ago
Anonymous
Hey, you never know what you'll find on /k/ - Weapons and IKEA furniture
4 months ago
Anonymous
wasted on non TZD
4 months ago
Anonymous
How's the counteroffensive coming along?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Witnessed
4 months ago
Anonymous
Doubly devilish GET
4 months ago
Anonymous
DOUBLE SATANIC
you'll never know!
4 months ago
Anonymous
I/k/ea board
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Hey, you never know what you'll find on /k/ - Weapons and IKEA furniture
practically banner worthy
4 months ago
Anonymous
Up next, well find NFTs and OLED TVs.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Up next, well find NFTs and OLED TVs.
We have different kind of TV for Oleg.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>ManlyTearsHidingBehindClaymore
4 months ago
Anonymous
Welp, IKEA confirmed good stuff, I guess? HAIL SATAN!
4 months ago
Anonymous
What about best of both worlds?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Nice.
4 months ago
Anonymous
4 months ago
Anonymous
Rate my EDC
4 months ago
Anonymous
very nice.
4 months ago
Anonymous
post confirms Ikea is a high class furniture inaccessible for Russian peasants
4 months ago
Anonymous
no, it unfolds into a bed
Slept in it for a week, it was alright
4 months ago
Anonymous
dude, the name of the sofa is right there
4 months ago
Anonymous
needing a loan for a single Ikea sofa, holy shit lmao
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Who gives them so much money?
*Hands rubbing*
4 months ago
Anonymous
this special military operation has made me start learning polish on duolingo. I have never been there, it just seems like a pretty cool place with pretty cool people. I would like to consume their media.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>be me >have "sh" in my name >czechs read it at "zch" >I'm changing my last name to Campbell and frick it
They spend decades calling Ukrainians goofy backward savages that will be evaporated on the contact with glorious puccia army. I have no idea how reality didn't mind broke them after two years of war.
>be Russian >join the military to learn how to fly to protect your nation >spend years training meticulously to fly advanced aircraft >put in charge of one of the most important aircraft in the fleet >shot down by enemy action >your command immediately claims you were downed by friendly fire because you are a moron
Genuinely hilarious that the idiots keep doing this. No wonder morale is shit.
The shrapnel pattern seems to indicate that the missile detonated above the plane from what I can see, as it seems to be travelling down to the fuselage rather than coming up due to the lack of underbelly damage.
If if detonated roughly centre mass, it probably sprayed a good amount of shrapnel into the part of the plane where the command centre/cargo is held, which would explain how it managed to land as the wings and wienerpit would be relatively untouched.
good find
but I caution that just about every long-range missile both ground-launched and air-launched flies a lofted trajectory, cause that's how you achieve such long ranges
Is fine.
We of put on plane so he could deliverings message to everyone personallies about he is of not dead.
Plane of comings to land in Kerch this mornings with supply of BBQ'd meat to raising morales.
>Ukraine gets more Patriot batteries >suspiciously more Russian missiles get through air defenses >at the same time Russian planes are being downed weekly
I am calling it. Ukraine command has decided they can’t play defense forever and are willing to decrease their Patriot defences slightly, in exchange for using them offensively. Long term they down so many fighters, jets, and other planes it degrades Russian ability to launch missiles to begin with, and Russians are forced to relocate air forces away from Ukraine.
A net gain overall in the longterm, but short term increase in civilian deaths and infrastructure damage.
Why do people think that 'built' = 'in service'. They have 9 in total and two A-100's and only one of those has actually flown. They do not have 40 fricking A-50's. They don't even have 30. Or 20. Or 10. They have 9. One was damaged last year and one yesterday.
Potentially killed. We don't know how bad the damage was and whether or not they have the capabilities to repair it. We should use precise language here lest we fall into the same moronation as the ruskies
Anything that flew home CAN be repaired but the USAF phrase "beyond economical repair" applies in resource-constrained environments.
OTOH during Viet Nam the US often performed such drastic repairs that a replacement would have cost less had it been available. So long as something with the original tail number rolls out of depot it can be the equivalent of keeping your license plate and its mount while replacing the rest of the car.
No I didn't. I said they had 9. One was damaged last year (8). One now (7). They still have 9 in the sense that they had 9 A-50's which were active. Not the 40 that people think.
>only one of those has actually flown
in February 2022
which was almost certainly a dummy payload test flight
and then sanctions bit
A-100 stands a good chance of never ever ever entering operational service
Pro-Russians unironically believe that there's Polish military cemetery with 5000 Polish soldiers that died fighting in Ukraine. So why not have same for Britain too?
There's literally one active military cemetary in the UK, Brookwood. It's not really anywhere near London or Manchester.
I guess russia has shitloads of military cemeteries for the provincial mobiks so they just superimpose the Russia experience over other countries?
Infamous SAS commander and Ghost of Azov Boris Johnson confirmed to his people that 'the enemy has been struck a critical blow tally ho!" before flying to Moscow and personally using his home made weather machine against the civilian Russian population. A dark day for Russia.
>Infamous SAS commander and Ghost of Azov Boris Johnson confirmed to his people that 'the enemy has been struck a critical blow tally ho!" before flying to Moscow and personally using his home made weather machine against the civilian Russian population. A dark day for Russia.
Wait until he strikes the Kerch Strait bridge, and commemorates the 617 Squadron Dambusters raid on the Moehne and the Eder dams in the Ruhr, by using the codeword for success on that operation to signify the destruction of the bridge
I would love if the bridge was bought down not with a missile or a bomb, but if the Ukies just rigged a drone in the size and shape of a Lancaster to drop a big-ass boulder on it.
And reminder that the 119 thousand non-combat deaths was seen as such a scandal it led to a complete series of drastic reforms in Britain and France. Meanwhile Russia lost 376 thousand men to non-combat, which is so insane to think about. Russia is still doing the same shit 150 years later.
Somebody had to replace zhe Germanz as Russia‘s eternal boogie man since the entire mythical WW2 identity is built around defeating Nazi Germany. Americans being new world bumpkins wasn’t gonna cut it so the went with the next best thing the Eternal Anglo.
The Russians believe that the Bongs are literally the reason they are the superpower of the world. They believe if it wasn't for their meddling, they would be the globohomosexual (Russian Edition). The Bongs settled Crimea in 1066. They created Donetsk. Then during the following centuries the Bongs prevented Russia from forming their rightful global empire (which is ironic as the Bongs offered the Russians a med port if they declared war on US Revolutionaries/French/Spanish/Dutch) by thwarting them in the Great Game to take Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq (not that the Bongs managed Iran). Then during WW1 the Bongs assassinated Rasputin who was championing peace with Germany and had he not been killed then the Russian people would have not suffered as much and would have been all the stronger for it (the fact this led to the revolution and thus the largest Russia has ever been is ignored, they believed that would have been possible at the same time as being impossible under the Tsar). Then Cold War you had the Bongs do this and that. Finally, USA is a big boy and you cannot claim to be as big a boy as them so you go to somebody 'your size' which is UK. Thanks to their history, people believe the UK to be the same as it was in the 19th century and therefore a worthy scalp to take.
Because Britain is just a "small island" and yet has in many ways achieved more than Russia ever has, including the stuff they've always dreamed of like a big navy.
Russia has also been humiliated multiple times by the bongs without ever really having an answer to it.
I don't know why they even threaten this, the average British response is something along the lines of "I hope they do, at least it'll be warm for a moment before the end". It's hard to threaten an island of miserable c**ts.
But… but this is a million times worse than if it was friendly fire or a Ukrainian patriot. What kind of fricked up mentality results in these strange reverse copes that are worse than any realistic scenario?
It’s like if the Germans in 1941 said that Stalingrad got encircled but it wasn’t because of the Soviet offensive or the collapse of the Romanian lines, it was actually a crack team of israeli super soldiers that killed the entire 6th army with baseball bats and they’re still on the loose.
>Jerusalem
But the capital of Israel is Tel Aviv... Also pretty sure if officers were being buried in the UK there would be somebody taking a picture of it. If a MANPAD can take down an AWACS then I kneel to Starstreak.
This war greatly pains me as slavshit aviation enjoyer. But I consider this revenge for Miriya, a sin for which Russia should never be forgiven.
I agree, Putin should shoot somebody, as long as he remains boss monke and is doing the shooting himself. Putin remaining in power guarantees that nobody competent or intelligent will ever be promoted to important positions.
I like your thinking anon, Tsar Monkevich has done the ukies a lot of favors, by being monumentally moronic.
Painful as it is we must never forget anon. If they hadn't killed her I would still be sitting with a fencepost up my ass going 'both sides bad'. Also that and the whole kidnapping thousands of Ukranian children, that doesn't help their case.
We should but I don't think the world is based enough to handle a second British Empire... Maybe if we establish it in space instead?
You can have space, the US can have Earth itself. Seems fair to me.
But… but this is a million times worse than if it was friendly fire or a Ukrainian patriot. What kind of fricked up mentality results in these strange reverse copes that are worse than any realistic scenario?
It’s like if the Germans in 1941 said that Stalingrad got encircled but it wasn’t because of the Soviet offensive or the collapse of the Romanian lines, it was actually a crack team of israeli super soldiers that killed the entire 6th army with baseball bats and they’re still on the loose.
Victim complex. One of the biggest points of their copeaganda is that the West is interfering with a matter it has no business being interested in.
Let me maintain my ignorant bliss anon. If I read too much into the specifics of the ziggetry at work in Ukraine I won't be able to make fun of it anymore. That's what made me stop shitposting about the Israel-Palestine thing.
genuinely impressed that thing survived tbh
Maybe technically but that plane's gonna be out of action for while, if the Russians even decide to repair it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Probably permanently, they took 200s and 300s, that shrapnel damage likely extends far further forwards than the image may suggest.
4 months ago
Anonymous
True. I'm always surprised by just how much damage missiles can do to planes just with shrapnel.
4 months ago
Anonymous
They're like a shotgun blast since they've got forward velocity and are shot out by the explosives in the warhead. You can tell some of those pieces of shrapnel were frickhuge too.
>sprayed a good amount of shrapnel into the part of the plane where the command centre/cargo is held
I wish I was good enough at AI art models to get one to swiss cheese this image
[...] >DAS WAS EIN BEFEHL
please let it be true lmao >hohols will pay for this!
for all that they say they hate Marvel movies and Hollyisraelite etc, they sure play right into the campiest tropes possible
https://i.imgur.com/yLBBGUa.png
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right, frick, my bad
here's the IL-22
looking at these comfy photos with computer screens. I've got a brilliant idea about the new DOTA tournament. Just imagine two teams flying on 2 planes, each piloted by their coach. The one who loses gets shot down by the Patriot.
>once again shows that 98% of Russian defeats in this war are due to the brazen impunity of their superiors.
He’s right, but not for the reason he thinks
I agree, Putin should shoot somebody, as long as he remains boss monke and is doing the shooting himself. Putin remaining in power guarantees that nobody competent or intelligent will ever be promoted to important positions.
>make up lie about how ukraine didn't shot down your planes >now you have to kill one of your officers because your peasants want blood
Lol, lmao even.
The last flight of the A-50 was apparently recorded before it got shot down, released by the ukrainians : https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1746868196299227597?s=20
Eh, in terms of flyability it doesn't look too bad, not great mind you, but flyable. Given that we know they took casualties though that airframe probably got peppered in shrapnel and is probably a kill regardless in terms of its ability to perform its function.
The shrapnel pattern seems to indicate that the missile detonated above the plane from what I can see, as it seems to be travelling down to the fuselage rather than coming up due to the lack of underbelly damage.
If if detonated roughly centre mass, it probably sprayed a good amount of shrapnel into the part of the plane where the command centre/cargo is held, which would explain how it managed to land as the wings and wienerpit would be relatively untouched.
>sprayed a good amount of shrapnel into the part of the plane where the command centre/cargo is held
I wish I was good enough at AI art models to get one to swiss cheese this image
https://i.imgur.com/2Ra6NdT.jpg
Monke may or may not of had a ape out from the news.
>DAS WAS EIN BEFEHL
please let it be true lmao >hohols will pay for this!
for all that they say they hate Marvel movies and Hollyisraelite etc, they sure play right into the campiest tropes possible
That's what the interior looks like? Frick me they 100% took shrapnel to the midsection, no way they took casualties otherwise.
4 months ago
Anonymous
the peppered plane is an Il-22
that picture is that of an A-50
4 months ago
Anonymous
Ah, I didn't read the filename
4 months ago
Anonymous
Ah, I didn't read the filename
right, frick, my bad
here's the IL-22
4 months ago
Anonymous
Sucks for anyone near the windows when shrapnel hits.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Doesn't much matter where you sit when the shrapnel starts punching holes in the fuselage
4 months ago
Anonymous
mechanical typewriters? absolutely baZed
4 months ago
Anonymous
this is obviously a much older model and the modernised IL-22s ought to have digital interfaces...
...but this being Russian I really wouldn't bet on it
4 months ago
Anonymous
Russian smellcaca immmune to hacking xaxaxa
4 months ago
Anonymous
To shreds you say?
4 months ago
Anonymous
And his commander?
To shreds you say?
4 months ago
Anonymous
And his commander?
To shreds you say?
>googles
LMAO
4 months ago
Anonymous
Wish we could see what that cabin in what I assume the rear was. If all the crew stations were in the midsection then it's certain it's a writeoff
in the decadent west, if the rest of the plane is 1/10 as peppered as that, it'd need an inspection of cabling and fuel tank linings, a few months in a hangar, at least
in glorious poccnr, who knows.
It would need depanelling then structural/wiring/hydraulics repair and a frickton of NDI. If fracture-critical parts get damaged that can be major surgery to disassemble to repair or replace them if they are available.
The C-130 damaged at the Green Ramp incident at Pope was down for months for a replacement tail to be harvested, shipped and installed despite ideal conditions for performing the work. When damage is general it's far more difficult to repair.
>but flyable
Yeah, once. Until the tail tears off completely in the mid flight.
With compromised overall structural integrity plane risks aggravating the damage within each move it takes, and that's assuming it doesn't have anything
worse hidden like leaking fuel or some shit like that.
What are you talking about, they both use blast-frag warheads (AIM-120 and PAC-2 that is). It's likely PAC-2 because of the extent of the damage though.
You think that antenna would 100% survive the hit that fricked the vertical stab and rudder?
And the picture you have of "Standard Il-22" is an Il-20M not an Il-22
Any fuselage pics?
Do any other aircraft use the same vertical and horizontal stabs or other major structures? If there are donors it's easy to put the aircraft on jacks/cribbing then cut off the tail and prep for replacement since aluminum aircraft are far easier to repair than composite.
If not parts must be fabricated which a healthy industry could manage fairly easily.
You're not an aircraft mechanic or structural troop.
Aircraft without large spans of structural composite are routinely repaired by removing the affected sections. Watch how they are assembled to understand why. It would still take a long time if parts donors (fixing by making new bits would be highly questionable) aren't available.
Study how airliners etc have their fuselages extended by splicing then remember everything aft of the first cut could as well come from a cann bird. Russia's problem will be lack of donors.
Damn... how are our bronw colleagues over at pol handling it? Also rumors are spreading that Shoigu got summoned to the monkes bunker which brings up the famous question - Where is Gerasimov?
>the bear’s jaws are now clamped around the boar. The boar squeals and scratches the bear, drawing blood. The boar thinks it has won. The bear decides to finally close its jaw.
Animals seem more skittish than you’d expect in think because they have no medical care, and small injuries can lead to death. I remember being at a museum and they talked about how this dinosaur specimen had died of a broken leg and I was so confused since I had seen dinos as big and strong and a broken leg is a minor injury.
And predator-prey fights can be really weird for the same reason. They prey can afford to go ballistic at the predator, since it has literally nothing to lose. The predator has to do the same thing again and again forever, so it can't risk even minor injuries.
I'm surprised they still believe in myth of scary russian special forces. Those morons died in droves during this war, and at their best they performed just barely on par with how regulars should be performing, which is, I guess, still a high bar for russia...
The best trained infantry are just infantry, and are just as fragile. They still die if they are hit with artillery. VDV are just mobile light mechanized infantry, and did a good enough job taking airfields. But they were on a timer to be relieved by the proper Russian army, because a proper Ukrainian counter attack backed by armor and artillery would destroy them. Any euro or american paratroopers would die just as much.
Only such a frickup would result in congressional hearings, and a slew of firings.
>did a good enough job taking airfields.
Like which one? The one they landed on half a day later than they should have and even that only because two dozen lightly armed blocks guarding it run out of ammo? Or the one that was empty when they drove in by the land? Or the one where they abandoned all attempts on taking it before they even begun because they've realized how well the first one is going?
He also has cancer, a frick ton of plastic surgery, wears lifts, likely a girdle as well. Witnesses say he looks like plastic up close, and the botox is really obvious. It doesn’t pick up as much on cameras.
>that one Russian pilot who almost accidentally shot a UK one while his wingman screamed at him for being a fricking moron because he knew the entire RuAF would cease to exist
>I bet he wishes he had the balls to shoot at NATO AWACS
Russia did. Last year. They locked on and fired twice at a Bong AWACS. The first missile launched but didn't hit (possibly due to jamming from the AWACS) and the second missile detached from the aircraft but did not launch and just dropped in the sea. Russia claimed it was a 'malfunction' and the Bongs accepted that. Until it leaked it wasn't a malfunction and was an actual direct attack by the Russian pilot and the Bongs let it be covered up because 'they didn't want to escalate'. Even though they had been fired on and could have lost a $400m aircraft and 50 airmen.
Wasn't against orders, he 'misheard' the order when he asked for permission to fire. His wingman told him to stop and he ignored it, correct. But ground control giving him permission (or not) was not heard. Regardless, the Bongs let an act of war just go to the side because 'muh escalation'. It's the same shit with Russian missiles hitting Poland. If you can handwave it away as 'an accident' or 'misfire' or 'it was actually Ukrainian' then you don't need to do anything. If you actually go to Poland there are more missiles there than reported. That's ignoring the international law breaches of Russia firing missiles through Poland to hit Ukraine.
No, he asked can I fire. He got a response. He thought it was an affirmative. He fired. His wingman said 'Stop idiot' and he went 'No' and fired again. In his mind he got orders to fire and he fired.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Thinking your allowed to do something and being told you are allowed to do something have completely different legal ramifications. It's not like stealing cookies from the biscuit tin Anon.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Again. >Hello ground control >Hello pilot >I have an aircraft in range, do I have permission to lock on and fire? >Hello pilot you [static] have permission to fire >Oh good that is permission to fire, thanks, ttl babe xxxx >*fire*
The fact the [static] was (according to Russia, we have no proof either way) 'don't' is irrelevant. The pilot heard 'you have permission to fire'.
4 months ago
Anonymous
pilot you [static] have permission to fire
Don't military organisations structure radio phraseology to avoid this sort of problem?
Imagine if the US started arguing with Serbia that the F-117 was in fact shot down by a PATRIOT. The Russians really are some of the most pathetic people on the entire planet.
>day 690 (nice) of the 3-day special military operation to debeanerise Mexico >somehow the Mexicans shot down two of the most valuable aircraft in the USAF >an F-15 pilot reports seeing one of only eight remaining E-3 Sentry AWACS in the USAF going down without a word "like a candle" in the Gulf of Mexico >an E-8 JSTARS captain heroically lands his swiss-cheesed aircraft full of dead and dying in Eglin AFB; the aircraft is a write-off >American milbloggers across Twitter left utterly speechless and broken
>Plopping all this massive vulnerable shit near the frontline in order to hit aircraft in the Azov Sea >They don't get hit back
How the frick did they get away with this shit? I can understand HIMARS getting away with the Speedy Gonzales routine, but a Patriot doing it just seems silly to me.
Ukrainians are ambushing them by likely receiving Russian flight plans from their own spies, or Western intelligence.
They then station the Patriot in the perfect spot, wait for the time when the plane should be in range, quickly turn on the radars and launch.
Russians will keep losing planes until they find out how Ukraine knows exactly their plans, and can determine ways to counteract Patriot.
If they cannot thwart this before F16s arrive, they’ll have a more complicated situation on their hands.
I called it. Ukraine got more Patriot batteries from Germany so they put them to good use.
patriot can't hit something over the Sea of Azov from Ukrainian lines
Patriot PAC-2 reported range: 160KM
It absolutely can
Why the hell are they flying that close to the front
The Russians have been complaining pretty loudly about the absolute state of their air defense recently. Some were even saying the Ukies are flying helos and attack aircraft near the front lines.
Maybe they brought those aircraft closer to try and spot them in time?
>flying attack aircraft near the front lines
And they don't even have F-16s yet. This year is going to be entertaining.
It seems like the Yooks have finally hit a tipping point of degrading pozziyan air defense, especially after taking those oil platforms and wasting multiple S-400's on Crimea
By many accounts they're now able to safely fly helos and frogfoots over combat zones, which means the puccians have the choice of either eating shit or shifting assets, either one gives ample opportunities for the Yooks to frick them in the ass and in this case they brought up AWACS too far.
This is how the war is going to degenerate for them going forward - they lose capacity, they're forced to either reorient their force organisation or bring older shit out of mothballs, the new paradigm exposes them to lose even more shit -> the spiral accelerates
How fricking cool is it to be the special forces guys tasked with taking those oil platforms? The mission is so cool, so important, so well done. They even got to fire a manpad at a Russian jet to chase it off like out of some kind of movie.
They took out Russia’s radar systems then installed their own. That opened up gaps that Ukraine has been exploiting to hit Crimea ever since.
>They even got to fire a manpad at a Russian jet to chase it off like out of some kind of movie.
RAMIREZ! GET THE STINGER AND TAKE OUT THAT FIGHTER!
What about S-200D „Dubna” wikipedia says it has 300km range
roru
rumao even
I mean sure, but if you're trying to down such a high-profile and expensive asset you only really get one shot and will want to use something that will 100% work, not Soviet trash.
Their equipment is bad and they're Russian
In any case I think the source of their targeting information is probably a more interesting topic than the specific munition used
The radar that queued the missile is of much more interest to me given the Ruskies seem to be unfamiliar with it
Some sort of (former) glowie special from Raytheon's secret menu?
It's VERA feeding into god knows what
>Unclassified range
Summer child...
>Ladies and gentlemen. We got him
Ukrainians be like:
https://trailers.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/e95b68c3-c909-4fa4-86b6-0639dfddb347
Technically they both landed
returned to earth under gravity
>Nearly $500 million in hull and personnel losses
This is roughly equal to the sub + landing craft from last year, right?
Interesting that they're claiming the IL-22M was destroyed. Here's hoping we get some images of it, assuming that the Ruskies weren't just lying about it limping back, to get a good BDA though I suspect it's in pretty bad shape even if it made it back
Landing doesn't mean it's going to fly again
Yes, and I said I suspected as much in my post, I'm just commenting that the Ukrainian assessment implies they have good BDA, more than just us extrapolating from there being reportedly 200s and 300s on the plane. I want to look at what a plane looks like after being peppered by a PAC-2 warhead
Even if it (crash)landed, it's likely a hull loss. Just because you can make it back safely, it doesn't mean the plane will ever fly again.
There was that Embraer used by a Belarussian airline that got cross-wired by mistake during overhaul, and, after the pilots eventually managed to land it, got immediately scrapped since it was bent like a banana from all the impromptu aerobatics.
It's a command post with frickload of electronics in it. If it was shredded enough this shit won't be repaired
Russkies said it limped back with dead and wounded on board. It’s fricked either way.
There was a radio message sent saying they were damaged, heading back and had wounded on board. Don't know if it actually made it.
>landed under azov sea
UNDER THE SEA
UNDER THE SEA
DARLING IT'S BETTER
DOWN WHERE IT'S WETTER
SEND VDV
>mfw
>aircraft landed therefore it can't possibly have been destroyed
Do you understand that damage can render an aircraft unusable even if it could limp back?
>technology of anal-ogov-net
Since Russia always lies we can apply the russia rule.
>If you don't see it, they don't have it
We didn't see the aircrafts, so they don't have them anymore.
>video posted by zaluzhny
Interesting how? Where launchers had to be placed to reach them
Someone explain what's happening here.
NATO AWACS reading
I assume targets circling around on the same spot was an evasion maneuvering, and seeing how they lost a signal, it wasn't successful.
I would assume that one target just dropped into the sea on the same spot it was hit, and the second one was only damaged and managed to fly away though it was steering in the wrong direction before losing signal, so I doubt it returned to the airbase under its own power.
>3 tracks disappear around the same area
What was the third?
Whatever it was it presumably turned off everything and dived the frick out of RADAR contact
I'm assuming the 2 that disappear after a straight line are probably fine, but the one that disappears after a jagged line is probably not doing too swell.
actually I'd wager the colors are probably based on altitude with bluer=lower, so the jagged flight path one was rather low after it disappeared from radar
unable to gain altitude or preparing to submerge?
Wrong! Traditional values, white people protecting Russian A-50 definitely landed on Snake Island, from the air chart
On the new F-16s that have been there since Russia's aerial losses exploded late in December 😉
>Where launchers had to be placed to reach them
easily reached by Patriot from Orikhiv
probably meant to represent the Sukhoi pilot who saw the A-50 go down
Just like the moskva made it back to port under its own power?
Like Novocherkassk?*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~
I thought all Patriots were destroyed by magic hypersonic missiles? Wtf have they been using them for then?
Yes, they were destroyed in Daggerstorm. But not relevant here, superior S-300 showdown the A-50. Patriot, had it survived, could not do such heroics.
Now the question is, why did someone post about the A-50 on /k/ the day before it got shot down? Why did they do it and what did they know?
Probably because it's a meticulously planned operation? As far as I remember ukies printed sunk moskva postal marks two weeks before the sinking.
Well, that would be the natural conclusion, but that means that someone who took part in the planning shitposted about it here before it happened, and was confident that the vatBlack folk wouldn't pick up on it.
I wouldn't put it past the ukies, we've seen how good they are at memeing
>and was confident that the vatBlack folk wouldn't pick up on it.
That's not the Uke mentality at all. They want Russians' noses pressed to the glass to watch their world end.
I wouldn't worry about it.
sometimes coincidence is just a coincidence
Someone did the same thing with moskva, i remember the post being about it becoming a scuba destination or something. Days before it sank.
Exactly my thoughts. Can't find the post, but it was a lot of gloating about the A-50.
Here it is.
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60648646/
If only we kept it afloat until today...
Someone can still copypaste a side-by-side
Interesting. Thanks, Anon.
Armatard's curse is apparently still a thing, for those who don't know: Things Armatard shilled often had bad stuff happen to it after he shilled it excessively. Most prominent examples:
>Su-57, first production model crashed shortly after it was produced, caused a major meltdown of him
>Pantsir AA-System, got shat on by literally everything it was meant to easily destroy by him
>Mig-31, he claimed nothing can shoot it down, then one was shot down by another Mig-31 by accident
>Kuznetsov, went down to Syria after extreme delays, lost two planes against goat herders and limped back to Russia only to stay indefinitely in a 'to be fixed in a few years' state
>...
>Now the question is, why did someone post about the A-50 on /k/ the day before it got shot down?
You're noticing. It's fun once you start noticing.
Russians were bragging about how top dog their a-50’ie and how ukkies need to cower in fear now.
There is nothing to 'notice' morons. The reason was because BulgarianMilitary did an article on how the A-50 was finding the Su-24-To to stop them launching SS. So somebody made a shitpost thread. It's called a coincidence. They happen every day.
Take your pick gentleman
>russia is massively moronic and Yevgeny'd their own shit
>yooks PAC-2'd their shit (this has happened before over belgorod IIRC)
both are equally humiliating for Russia.
Evidently not. The Russians have decided the first is less embarrassing
I'm voting for option number 3
>Intentional fragging of the Il-22 command plane to assassinate some specific officers as part of internal MoD politics, A-50 either collateral damage or hit to cover up tracks.
You are too smart for this board.
Come to Moscow, we have work for people like you.
mandatory
What happened then?
Well to start with, the front fell off. It's not supposed to do that.
I don't understand Gzjyzk-speak, but I know what that bottom line says.
It's bad but doable.
cz = ch
sz = sh
dz = j or dzh
their J is our Y
The Ł is our W
So the miserably named Camp Coszczuszko is pronounced Camp Kosh-chu-shko
bravo sir, you just cracked the polish code
gratulacje
Give him an order of Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz!
I fricking hate polish. Using latin script like morons for when it doesn't even have half the latters you use wasn't enough for them, they just NEEDED to use the most unintuitive and uncommon latter combinations to make up for those sounds. They've could just adopt cyrillic like normal slavs do and it would've made their language twice shorter and ten times more easily readable, but I swear to God those fricking subhumans deliberately choose to bastardize their own language just for the sake of fricking larp.
>Latin script Slavs
Most successful Slavic nations like Poland, Czechs and Croats
>Cyrillic script Slavs
Backwards, crime infested, dystopian hellscapes.
Yeah nah, Poles did right to avoid the cursed script.
Wrong. The Poles use the "tail" or "circumflex" as French call it, to denote special effects.
They use ę in their "thank you," for example.
In other words, there's an easy fix for the letter soup. Instead of something like sz and cz, they could write ş or ç.
Other languages alreadybdo this with things like ś or ṣ. Romanian for example.
And I bet so do Hungarians and Czechs, and Slovaks, but that's just a guess.
I honestly agree, Czech and Slovak bros really got it right with their special letter equivalents to sz cz. If we did that all the common complaints disappear
> they just NEEDED to use the most unintuitive and uncommon latter combinations to make up for those sounds
Digraphs have to be uncommon combinations. Otherwise they'd get confused for two vowels.
Or they could have just adopted cyrillic at least partially and use a single latter for what they need four now.
Latin is a scurge of European languages. Anything north of Pyrenees had to come up with schizophrenic rules to work with latin script.
Deal with it
He’s soo close to getting it
Is IKEA considered high quality in Eastern Europe or is that a Russian thing?
>Is IKEA considered high quality in Eastern Europe
Yes
Some other Anon explained that Ikea is seen as luxury, but of an attainable sort. The average russian will never drive a modern car, but with a smaller loan he can afford to buy a sofa and bookshelf.
the reason why many young people even in OECD countries buy IKEA is that it is a highly durable, attractive and affordable middle-class option. you would have to pay 2-3 times the price for something that lasts 10 times longer.
regarding this guy's take on Polish Ikea sofas... domestic russian news reported that a Russian's average monthly salary is 1,000 dollars, and average monthly disposable income is 200 US dollars. a basic b***h Polish corner set is 2000 zlotys or 500 US dollars. the nice thing about Ikea being standardised worldwide is that the price isn't going to be extremely far removed.
so yeah, imagine if a sofa cost you half a month's salary. and imagine the typical Telegramming poorgay, who might conceivably be below even the Russian average. you betcha he would be taking out a loan for an Ikea sofa.
>average $1000 monthly
>the left hand side of the bellcurve makes even less than that
>and instead of wanting to maybe improve that for themselves they want to destroy everyone elses nice shit
also unrelated does that sofa have a pull out storage unit under it? I am unironically in the market for a new one
what am I, a furniture salesman?
consult your local IKEA anon, cmon
Hey, you never know what you'll find on /k/ - Weapons and IKEA furniture
wasted on non TZD
How's the counteroffensive coming along?
Witnessed
Doubly devilish GET
DOUBLE SATANIC
you'll never know!
I/k/ea board
>Hey, you never know what you'll find on /k/ - Weapons and IKEA furniture
practically banner worthy
Up next, well find NFTs and OLED TVs.
>Up next, well find NFTs and OLED TVs.
We have different kind of TV for Oleg.
>ManlyTearsHidingBehindClaymore
Welp, IKEA confirmed good stuff, I guess? HAIL SATAN!
What about best of both worlds?
Nice.
Rate my EDC
very nice.
post confirms Ikea is a high class furniture inaccessible for Russian peasants
no, it unfolds into a bed
Slept in it for a week, it was alright
dude, the name of the sofa is right there
needing a loan for a single Ikea sofa, holy shit lmao
>Who gives them so much money?
*Hands rubbing*
this special military operation has made me start learning polish on duolingo. I have never been there, it just seems like a pretty cool place with pretty cool people. I would like to consume their media.
>be me
>have "sh" in my name
>czechs read it at "zch"
>I'm changing my last name to Campbell and frick it
>history of russia in 5 words:
>and then it got worse
it got worse
another tomorrow arrived
these were medevac planes carrying hundreds of donbass children
And this is why you never trust anything with zsu logo
eternal flight status ?
Confirmed for eternal swimming
azov sea is like 15 meters deep, so i'm pretty sure remains will be found pretty soon by osint gays on twatter
Russia won't show anything, will have to wait for satellite images
I think that's what the other anon implied.
AVOIDED landing arranged
Zister, I still haven't seen any photos of the survived the attack Il-22...
or of it shotdown so lower your tone
There you go, moron.
it appears to be a computer generated graphic
interesting proofs
>a computer generated graphic
I will never not be fascinated by how Russians would rather paint themselves as completely inept than admit Ukraine achieved any sort of victory
They spend decades calling Ukrainians goofy backward savages that will be evaporated on the contact with glorious puccia army. I have no idea how reality didn't mind broke them after two years of war.
>be Russian
>join the military to learn how to fly to protect your nation
>spend years training meticulously to fly advanced aircraft
>put in charge of one of the most important aircraft in the fleet
>shot down by enemy action
>your command immediately claims you were downed by friendly fire because you are a moron
Genuinely hilarious that the idiots keep doing this. No wonder morale is shit.
Oh like the US wouldn’t do the same thing if Mexico deleted an AWACS
But what weapons did ukrops use?
Patriot can't cover that range?
F16s aren't in Ukraine yet and could be detected
it was a boat
99% sure they used vera for detection it has the same track pattern but no clue what they hit them with unless they got some sneaky bvraams
>missile detonated above the plane
Hmm....
read the text he posted, moron.
good find
but I caution that just about every long-range missile both ground-launched and air-launched flies a lofted trajectory, cause that's how you achieve such long ranges
Why is Gerasimov still missing from? No public appearances at all since the rumors started.
Is fine.
We of put on plane so he could deliverings message to everyone personallies about he is of not dead.
Plane of comings to land in Kerch this mornings with supply of BBQ'd meat to raising morales.
It isn’t like USA where officials will make daily or weekly appaeances and briefings. Gerimosov has a habit of fricking off randomly too.
Date?
To be fair that happened last time he nearly got killed
Didn’t Milley make a phone call to check if he was still alive last time?
>Ukraine gets more Patriot batteries
>suspiciously more Russian missiles get through air defenses
>at the same time Russian planes are being downed weekly
I am calling it. Ukraine command has decided they can’t play defense forever and are willing to decrease their Patriot defences slightly, in exchange for using them offensively. Long term they down so many fighters, jets, and other planes it degrades Russian ability to launch missiles to begin with, and Russians are forced to relocate air forces away from Ukraine.
A net gain overall in the longterm, but short term increase in civilian deaths and infrastructure damage.
this would explain why the killscore for the latest missile chimpout was so disappointing
A-50 KILL CONFIRMED
A-50 KILL CONFIRMED
A-50 KILL CONFIRMED
I guess we can put the 1 AWACS under the 1 Submarine on the chart now.
God I hope we get a picture to put alongside it.
That was like SECRET ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED:
>Country with no navy
>Sinks a submarine
>On land
Its so improbable I expected carrying it out to unlock big head mode or something
Really goes to show obsolete these slow awacs planes are
Too expensive to use...
>39 are still left
And 31 of those are inoperable junk.
Why do people think that 'built' = 'in service'. They have 9 in total and two A-100's and only one of those has actually flown. They do not have 40 fricking A-50's. They don't even have 30. Or 20. Or 10. They have 9. One was damaged last year and one yesterday.
you forgot the one that was killed in Belarus.
SIGINT plane apparently, given the shrapnel spray, not likely there's much left of that. Write it off.
Potentially killed. We don't know how bad the damage was and whether or not they have the capabilities to repair it. We should use precise language here lest we fall into the same moronation as the ruskies
Anything that flew home CAN be repaired but the USAF phrase "beyond economical repair" applies in resource-constrained environments.
OTOH during Viet Nam the US often performed such drastic repairs that a replacement would have cost less had it been available. So long as something with the original tail number rolls out of depot it can be the equivalent of keeping your license plate and its mount while replacing the rest of the car.
No I didn't. I said they had 9. One was damaged last year (8). One now (7). They still have 9 in the sense that they had 9 A-50's which were active. Not the 40 that people think.
7 frickin AWACs to patrol all of Russia. One is gonna just fall out of the sky eventually with the added stress.
They could abandon the rest of Russia, nobody is going to attack them after all
Another increase of smocking incidents then.
Japan wants the Kurils back still
China wants bits of Russia
US would like Russia to frick off from being near Alaska.
>only one of those has actually flown
in February 2022
which was almost certainly a dummy payload test flight
and then sanctions bit
A-100 stands a good chance of never ever ever entering operational service
>39 are still left
Yeah rusting somewhere. How many airworthy?
Ukies are preparing for F-16's.
40 were built, moron. How many are operational? 8
hohol lied.
>damaged
This is always Russian spin for flaming wreckage.
>damaged
Technically, even a flaming pile of contorted scrap is "damaged". It just happens to be damaged beyond any reasonable recovery.
"Received adjustments incompatible with repair."
Heh
>damaged
Total loss confirmed
Damaged as in the term the civilized world uses or the russian "2 storm shadows penetrated the pressure hull of a submarine damaged"
>came back to airfield on its own power
reminds me of things..................
You know, technically, if you push a truck from a top of the cliff, it will arrive to the bottom of it on it's own power...
>the aircraft returned to the groud under its own power of gravity
>VRYOTIIII
haha classic copium
>airfield on it's own power
may I see it?
Right here:
6.
bong-bong
>manpads 30km offshore
What?
GUYS I JUST SAW BORIS JOHNSON IN A FISHERBOAT DRIVING PAST MY HOUSE
>manpads
>shooting down an awacs
Were the SAS in a rubber dinghy or something?
Frickin chinksects are gonna use this as PROOF they can take out a poseidon btw.
A biplane, personally flown by Boris Johnson.
>military cemetaries in manchester and london
What?
Pro-Russians unironically believe that there's Polish military cemetery with 5000 Polish soldiers that died fighting in Ukraine. So why not have same for Britain too?
There's literally one active military cemetary in the UK, Brookwood. It's not really anywhere near London or Manchester.
I guess russia has shitloads of military cemeteries for the provincial mobiks so they just superimpose the Russia experience over other countries?
>everything a russian says is projection
When the ukies retake mariupol, donestk, etc. They're gonna find mass graves from cleansing out ukranians.
Can confirm the lads used a man portable meteor although it was a 3 man job.
Your mum is a 3 man job every friday night, mate.
They're leaking the next Call of Duty: Ghosts script, the bastards...
How will TreyArc, DICE, EA, Mountain Dew and Dóritós ever recover?
>airborne radioactive equipment
Fricking what?!
Pretty sure that's just a stupid translation for radio and radar.
PLUTO confirmed real
Infamous SAS commander and Ghost of Azov Boris Johnson confirmed to his people that 'the enemy has been struck a critical blow tally ho!" before flying to Moscow and personally using his home made weather machine against the civilian Russian population. A dark day for Russia.
>Infamous SAS commander and Ghost of Azov Boris Johnson confirmed to his people that 'the enemy has been struck a critical blow tally ho!" before flying to Moscow and personally using his home made weather machine against the civilian Russian population. A dark day for Russia.
Wait until he strikes the Kerch Strait bridge, and commemorates the 617 Squadron Dambusters raid on the Moehne and the Eder dams in the Ruhr, by using the codeword for success on that operation to signify the destruction of the bridge
I would love if the bridge was bought down not with a missile or a bomb, but if the Ukies just rigged a drone in the size and shape of a Lancaster to drop a big-ass boulder on it.
>umm it was the SAS
Kek I can't believe they're still pushing this meme in 2024
Boris Johnson strikes again
Why are they so obsessed with us?
t. Bong
Great Game, Crimean War etc. Russia has been seething at you guys far longer than they did at the yanks.
They're still mad about picrel. Which is funny when they pull out the butthurt belt insult.
And reminder that the 119 thousand non-combat deaths was seen as such a scandal it led to a complete series of drastic reforms in Britain and France. Meanwhile Russia lost 376 thousand men to non-combat, which is so insane to think about. Russia is still doing the same shit 150 years later.
>Russia is still doing the same shit 150 years later.
You have no idea how true this is.
>Half of the Russian army is straight up killed, mostly due to logistical frick-ups and tomfoolery.
Yep, that sounds like Russia alright.
Every totalitarian state needs a boogeyman.
You are israelites to them
they are mad because donetsk is rightful bong clay
Russian civil war as well because of you they lost some land in Baltics
Have a higher quality version
But seriously, what is Russia's problem with us?
Jealousy.
Somebody had to replace zhe Germanz as Russia‘s eternal boogie man since the entire mythical WW2 identity is built around defeating Nazi Germany. Americans being new world bumpkins wasn’t gonna cut it so the went with the next best thing the Eternal Anglo.
The Russians believe that the Bongs are literally the reason they are the superpower of the world. They believe if it wasn't for their meddling, they would be the globohomosexual (Russian Edition). The Bongs settled Crimea in 1066. They created Donetsk. Then during the following centuries the Bongs prevented Russia from forming their rightful global empire (which is ironic as the Bongs offered the Russians a med port if they declared war on US Revolutionaries/French/Spanish/Dutch) by thwarting them in the Great Game to take Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq (not that the Bongs managed Iran). Then during WW1 the Bongs assassinated Rasputin who was championing peace with Germany and had he not been killed then the Russian people would have not suffered as much and would have been all the stronger for it (the fact this led to the revolution and thus the largest Russia has ever been is ignored, they believed that would have been possible at the same time as being impossible under the Tsar). Then Cold War you had the Bongs do this and that. Finally, USA is a big boy and you cannot claim to be as big a boy as them so you go to somebody 'your size' which is UK. Thanks to their history, people believe the UK to be the same as it was in the 19th century and therefore a worthy scalp to take.
you're the only ones whose nose they never managed to bloody. They're still very pissed about it.
tbh you bongs should become what they accuse you of being
We should but I don't think the world is based enough to handle a second British Empire... Maybe if we establish it in space instead?
https://ru-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%82?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
>dabs on russia again and again
>forgets about it since it was just another tuesday
based.
I have no idea, old boy
>wink wink
>nudge nudge
Because Britain is just a "small island" and yet has in many ways achieved more than Russia ever has, including the stuff they've always dreamed of like a big navy.
Russia has also been humiliated multiple times by the bongs without ever really having an answer to it.
Litvinenko called Putin out for being a pedo. Putin never got over it.
A man on a boat, stood up and hit a fricking AWACS with a shoulder fired weapon.
Naa man just no...
No no no, that was a secret SAS UK MI6 007 team. Here, there's a proof, these imperialist pigs are openly admited this!
Only Israel is allowed to genocide entire cities, sorry vatnik
>888,000 mobilised
Man, almost 200 years later Russia is still the same shithole.
The Blowpipe redemption arc is finally happening!
'Private, did you see that AWACS?'
'Yes sir!'
'I don't want to'
Still mad about WRD?
>I-it was the british! Let’s nuke them!
Why are they so insistent on doing this?
I don't know why they even threaten this, the average British response is something along the lines of "I hope they do, at least it'll be warm for a moment before the end". It's hard to threaten an island of miserable c**ts.
>we were the REAL yids all along!
But… but this is a million times worse than if it was friendly fire or a Ukrainian patriot. What kind of fricked up mentality results in these strange reverse copes that are worse than any realistic scenario?
It’s like if the Germans in 1941 said that Stalingrad got encircled but it wasn’t because of the Soviet offensive or the collapse of the Romanian lines, it was actually a crack team of israeli super soldiers that killed the entire 6th army with baseball bats and they’re still on the loose.
>MANPADS
IM SORRY STARSTREAK
When will this nightmare end?!
>Jerusalem
But the capital of Israel is Tel Aviv... Also pretty sure if officers were being buried in the UK there would be somebody taking a picture of it. If a MANPAD can take down an AWACS then I kneel to Starstreak.
Alright, you have Russian sauce? I can't wait to write a post and expose zetnik lies about the cemeteries.
Just a coincidence
>russia hypes up latest wunderwaffe via foreign press
>ukrainians blow it up within 48 hours
many such cases!
Those things are so beautiful and cost like 2
350 million each. I hate Russia so much.
It's all gonna be OK anon. There's plenty of E3s
This war greatly pains me as slavshit aviation enjoyer. But I consider this revenge for Miriya, a sin for which Russia should never be forgiven.
I like your thinking anon, Tsar Monkevich has done the ukies a lot of favors, by being monumentally moronic.
>Mriya
I wasn't prepared to feel this feel today.
Painful as it is we must never forget anon. If they hadn't killed her I would still be sitting with a fencepost up my ass going 'both sides bad'. Also that and the whole kidnapping thousands of Ukranian children, that doesn't help their case.
You can have space, the US can have Earth itself. Seems fair to me.
Victim complex. One of the biggest points of their copeaganda is that the West is interfering with a matter it has no business being interested in.
>kidnapping
if only it were only kidnapping...
Let me maintain my ignorant bliss anon. If I read too much into the specifics of the ziggetry at work in Ukraine I won't be able to make fun of it anymore. That's what made me stop shitposting about the Israel-Palestine thing.
Maybe technically but that plane's gonna be out of action for while, if the Russians even decide to repair it.
Probably permanently, they took 200s and 300s, that shrapnel damage likely extends far further forwards than the image may suggest.
True. I'm always surprised by just how much damage missiles can do to planes just with shrapnel.
They're like a shotgun blast since they've got forward velocity and are shot out by the explosives in the warhead. You can tell some of those pieces of shrapnel were frickhuge too.
Looks comfy
Do you think they screamed during the crash?
were they still alive underwater?
MH17 says hello.
It was the Aussie cardboard drones wasn't it
looking at these comfy photos with computer screens. I've got a brilliant idea about the new DOTA tournament. Just imagine two teams flying on 2 planes, each piloted by their coach. The one who loses gets shot down by the Patriot.
God I hope so.
brothers morale is high
>once again shows that 98% of Russian defeats in this war are due to the brazen impunity of their superiors.
He’s right, but not for the reason he thinks
I agree, Putin should shoot somebody, as long as he remains boss monke and is doing the shooting himself. Putin remaining in power guarantees that nobody competent or intelligent will ever be promoted to important positions.
>make up lie about how ukraine didn't shot down your planes
>now you have to kill one of your officers because your peasants want blood
Lol, lmao even.
The last flight of the A-50 was apparently recorded before it got shot down, released by the ukrainians : https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1746868196299227597?s=20
It'll buff out of the Il-22
Fixed in 24 hours
Nothing a roll of duct tape can't fix
Clearly it's a birdstrike.
kek
if that's not SAM shrapnel I'm the Ghost of Kyiv...
why don't they show the whole thing?
I think the front fell off.
genuinely impressed that thing survived tbh
Eh, in terms of flyability it doesn't look too bad, not great mind you, but flyable. Given that we know they took casualties though that airframe probably got peppered in shrapnel and is probably a kill regardless in terms of its ability to perform its function.
The shrapnel pattern seems to indicate that the missile detonated above the plane from what I can see, as it seems to be travelling down to the fuselage rather than coming up due to the lack of underbelly damage.
If if detonated roughly centre mass, it probably sprayed a good amount of shrapnel into the part of the plane where the command centre/cargo is held, which would explain how it managed to land as the wings and wienerpit would be relatively untouched.
Odds on repair? 2 weeks possibly?
nta but they probably wont bother repairing this plane, they will just move all electrical parts on intact fuselage.
>sprayed a good amount of shrapnel into the part of the plane where the command centre/cargo is held
I wish I was good enough at AI art models to get one to swiss cheese this image
>DAS WAS EIN BEFEHL
please let it be true lmao
>hohols will pay for this!
for all that they say they hate Marvel movies and Hollyisraelite etc, they sure play right into the campiest tropes possible
That's what the interior looks like? Frick me they 100% took shrapnel to the midsection, no way they took casualties otherwise.
the peppered plane is an Il-22
that picture is that of an A-50
Ah, I didn't read the filename
right, frick, my bad
here's the IL-22
Sucks for anyone near the windows when shrapnel hits.
Doesn't much matter where you sit when the shrapnel starts punching holes in the fuselage
mechanical typewriters? absolutely baZed
this is obviously a much older model and the modernised IL-22s ought to have digital interfaces...
...but this being Russian I really wouldn't bet on it
Russian smellcaca immmune to hacking xaxaxa
To shreds you say?
And his commander?
To shreds you say?
>googles
LMAO
Wish we could see what that cabin in what I assume the rear was. If all the crew stations were in the midsection then it's certain it's a writeoff
> where the command centre/cargo is held,
Isn’t that where all the most expensive equipment and highly trained operators are? Now the pilots flew a plane full of hamburger crewmen back?
Yeah, exactly. As you can see here
It was probably the worst possible place to take a hit that wouldn't instantly kill the plane.
in the decadent west, if the rest of the plane is 1/10 as peppered as that, it'd need an inspection of cabling and fuel tank linings, a few months in a hangar, at least
in glorious poccnr, who knows.
It would need depanelling then structural/wiring/hydraulics repair and a frickton of NDI. If fracture-critical parts get damaged that can be major surgery to disassemble to repair or replace them if they are available.
The C-130 damaged at the Green Ramp incident at Pope was down for months for a replacement tail to be harvested, shipped and installed despite ideal conditions for performing the work. When damage is general it's far more difficult to repair.
>but flyable
Yeah, once. Until the tail tears off completely in the mid flight.
With compromised overall structural integrity plane risks aggravating the damage within each move it takes, and that's assuming it doesn't have anything
worse hidden like leaking fuel or some shit like that.
Fuel leaks are easy to find after pressurizing the system on the ground. Taking apart shit to get to buried wires OTOH is an asspain.
The labor is easy if tedious. Parts can be a b***h because not everything is a "feasible cann".
Fixed in under two hours.
My sides have been mission killed
That proves anti-air-fire right? They shred planes whereas f-16 missiles explode.
What are you talking about, they both use blast-frag warheads (AIM-120 and PAC-2 that is). It's likely PAC-2 because of the extent of the damage though.
There. Good as new.
A FRICKING LEAF
Shame. Landed plane with survivors
If this is the part they choose to show that plane is fine, imagine how rest of the bird looks like
>If this is the part they choose to show that plane is fine, imagine how rest of the bird looks like
THIS motherfricker understands the Russian mind
please be s-300 on drone boat.
please be s-300 on drone boat.
please be s-300 on drone boat.
You just KNOW they will dicktape it up and force some schmuck to fly it.
I have questions about that authenticity of this claim.
You think that antenna would 100% survive the hit that fricked the vertical stab and rudder?
And the picture you have of "Standard Il-22" is an Il-20M not an Il-22
Confirmed it was an IL-22M
Very nice, now let's see the rest of the plane
Huh, so this is the power of HATO wunderwaffen? Two day workers and a concrete mixer will fix it in half a day.
Any fuselage pics?
Do any other aircraft use the same vertical and horizontal stabs or other major structures? If there are donors it's easy to put the aircraft on jacks/cribbing then cut off the tail and prep for replacement since aluminum aircraft are far easier to repair than composite.
If not parts must be fabricated which a healthy industry could manage fairly easily.
Remember when they claimed Moskva randomly sank in a storm? Nothing has changed
Lmao. You're a worthless moron if you think this is repairable.
You're not an aircraft mechanic or structural troop.
Aircraft without large spans of structural composite are routinely repaired by removing the affected sections. Watch how they are assembled to understand why. It would still take a long time if parts donors (fixing by making new bits would be highly questionable) aren't available.
Study how airliners etc have their fuselages extended by splicing then remember everything aft of the first cut could as well come from a cann bird. Russia's problem will be lack of donors.
Damn... how are our bronw colleagues over at pol handling it? Also rumors are spreading that Shoigu got summoned to the monkes bunker which brings up the famous question - Where is Gerasimov?
VDV assault is coming.
Monke may or may not of had a ape out from the news.
It is somehow amusing to know that the revenge bombings are personally ordered by Putin and it isn’t some abstract policy they are following.
You don't know this
>the bear’s jaws are now clamped around the boar. The boar squeals and scratches the bear, drawing blood. The boar thinks it has won. The bear decides to finally close its jaw.
>and then it woke up
Animals seem more skittish than you’d expect in think because they have no medical care, and small injuries can lead to death. I remember being at a museum and they talked about how this dinosaur specimen had died of a broken leg and I was so confused since I had seen dinos as big and strong and a broken leg is a minor injury.
And predator-prey fights can be really weird for the same reason. They prey can afford to go ballistic at the predator, since it has literally nothing to lose. The predator has to do the same thing again and again forever, so it can't risk even minor injuries.
>beware, mortal enemies, for our leader is in an incoherent, destructive rage
The chairs are broken and the eyebrow is raised. Soon the eggs will be measured. It is over for HATO.
Realistically though, how will Russia retaliate? More bombs on Kiev?
Probably. Sperging out against civies is what Russia usually does when they get military cucked
>In the near future, the Ukrainian will not have fun
Oh so they certainly will
I'm surprised they still believe in myth of scary russian special forces. Those morons died in droves during this war, and at their best they performed just barely on par with how regulars should be performing, which is, I guess, still a high bar for russia...
The best trained infantry are just infantry, and are just as fragile. They still die if they are hit with artillery. VDV are just mobile light mechanized infantry, and did a good enough job taking airfields. But they were on a timer to be relieved by the proper Russian army, because a proper Ukrainian counter attack backed by armor and artillery would destroy them. Any euro or american paratroopers would die just as much.
Only such a frickup would result in congressional hearings, and a slew of firings.
>did a good enough job taking airfields.
Like which one? The one they landed on half a day later than they should have and even that only because two dozen lightly armed blocks guarding it run out of ammo? Or the one that was empty when they drove in by the land? Or the one where they abandoned all attempts on taking it before they even begun because they've realized how well the first one is going?
Shoigu is going to have another heart attack
Putin is the richest man in the world, can this doofus not take the time to buy a suit that fits?
they are all fat as frick anon, this fit is the best look they can pull off
I know that feel, actually
he is 70y.o. slob of fatty manlet. The fact that he looks vaguely humanoid at all, let alone normal, is already a testament to his PR team.
He also has cancer, a frick ton of plastic surgery, wears lifts, likely a girdle as well. Witnesses say he looks like plastic up close, and the botox is really obvious. It doesn’t pick up as much on cameras.
>70y.o.
Biden looked fine when he was that age.
How many can fit two layers of Kevlar vests though?
Man Shoigu looks very uncomfortable
>The chairs returned to the office under their own power
>chairs: broken
>eggs measured
>sinful sun shining
>monke is also into [CHAIR CLATTERING]
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
WHY IS SHE ENDING THE STREAM
WE WERE SO CLOSE TO 4 HOURS THIS TIME
SHIORI PLEASE
how long will it take until we get confirmation
Can you imagine how badly putin is seething right now? I bet he wishes he had the balls to shoot at NATO AWACS
>that one Russian pilot who almost accidentally shot a UK one while his wingman screamed at him for being a fricking moron because he knew the entire RuAF would cease to exist
https://archive.is/FNKaa
I wonder if it would've accelerated TZD.
>I bet he wishes he had the balls to shoot at NATO AWACS
Russia did. Last year. They locked on and fired twice at a Bong AWACS. The first missile launched but didn't hit (possibly due to jamming from the AWACS) and the second missile detached from the aircraft but did not launch and just dropped in the sea. Russia claimed it was a 'malfunction' and the Bongs accepted that. Until it leaked it wasn't a malfunction and was an actual direct attack by the Russian pilot and the Bongs let it be covered up because 'they didn't want to escalate'. Even though they had been fired on and could have lost a $400m aircraft and 50 airmen.
He fired intentionally but against orders, his wingman was screaming at him for being a fricking moron when he did it
Wasn't against orders, he 'misheard' the order when he asked for permission to fire. His wingman told him to stop and he ignored it, correct. But ground control giving him permission (or not) was not heard. Regardless, the Bongs let an act of war just go to the side because 'muh escalation'. It's the same shit with Russian missiles hitting Poland. If you can handwave it away as 'an accident' or 'misfire' or 'it was actually Ukrainian' then you don't need to do anything. If you actually go to Poland there are more missiles there than reported. That's ignoring the international law breaches of Russia firing missiles through Poland to hit Ukraine.
In other words, you’re saying he fired without actually receiving permission to fire, so he fired against orders.
No, he asked can I fire. He got a response. He thought it was an affirmative. He fired. His wingman said 'Stop idiot' and he went 'No' and fired again. In his mind he got orders to fire and he fired.
Thinking your allowed to do something and being told you are allowed to do something have completely different legal ramifications. It's not like stealing cookies from the biscuit tin Anon.
Again.
>Hello ground control
>Hello pilot
>I have an aircraft in range, do I have permission to lock on and fire?
>Hello pilot you [static] have permission to fire
>Oh good that is permission to fire, thanks, ttl babe xxxx
>*fire*
The fact the [static] was (according to Russia, we have no proof either way) 'don't' is irrelevant. The pilot heard 'you have permission to fire'.
pilot you [static] have permission to fire
Don't military organisations structure radio phraseology to avoid this sort of problem?
It wasn't an AWACS. It was a Rivet Joint SIGINT plane.
Yeah yeah mixed up the terms.
i see another chimpout in the future
It gets better, they're gonna try the VDV again.
Imagine if the US started arguing with Serbia that the F-117 was in fact shot down by a PATRIOT. The Russians really are some of the most pathetic people on the entire planet.
>day 690 (nice) of the 3-day special military operation to debeanerise Mexico
>somehow the Mexicans shot down two of the most valuable aircraft in the USAF
>an F-15 pilot reports seeing one of only eight remaining E-3 Sentry AWACS in the USAF going down without a word "like a candle" in the Gulf of Mexico
>an E-8 JSTARS captain heroically lands his swiss-cheesed aircraft full of dead and dying in Eglin AFB; the aircraft is a write-off
>American milbloggers across Twitter left utterly speechless and broken
>eternal memory to the dead
Buuuuut according to russian media nobody died.
they aren't dead they are "mortality challenged", "eternal living in the harts of true patriots(tally marks)"
They weren't killed, they received injuries incompatible with life
>"eternal memory to the dead"
>immediately memoryholes everything
You'll taste the dust, khokhly
If those were wooden chairs, then I can understand the message he was sending to Shoigu.
mit dem angriff steiners wird das alles wieder in ordnung kommen
doubt that the mental manlet have the strenght to eve lift a chair
FEGELEIN
How the frick do you sneak up on an AWACs
According to Tom Clancy, use a stealth fighter on the deck and then rise vertically under the AWACS' belly
to be fair to him, in his day it was much easier
look-down radar was not that good in the 80s or even the 00s
>Plopping all this massive vulnerable shit near the frontline in order to hit aircraft in the Azov Sea
>They don't get hit back
How the frick did they get away with this shit? I can understand HIMARS getting away with the Speedy Gonzales routine, but a Patriot doing it just seems silly to me.
Ukrainians are ambushing them by likely receiving Russian flight plans from their own spies, or Western intelligence.
They then station the Patriot in the perfect spot, wait for the time when the plane should be in range, quickly turn on the radars and launch.
Russians will keep losing planes until they find out how Ukraine knows exactly their plans, and can determine ways to counteract Patriot.
If they cannot thwart this before F16s arrive, they’ll have a more complicated situation on their hands.
>Russians will keep losing planes until they find out how Ukraine knows exactly their plans
I'm sure they'll figure it out one of these days.
Another plane, you say?
please be amraam