surprising France has had a lot of past programs concerning this tech. Can't speak for how they went I just know it was 5 or 6 different programs on the concept which I found interesting. >inb4 avangard was first
I am only aware of scramjet-powered hypersonic cruise missile ASN4G, V-Max (Véhicule Manoeuvrant Experimental) glider and Aquila interceptor. Does France has anything else currently in development?
>surprising France has had a lot of past programs concerning this tech.
France is one of the very few countries that became interested in magnetohydrodynamics during the cold war, required in not only nuclear fusion, but also the understanding of hypersonic speeds and their interaction with matter and electromagnetic radiation.
>while reaching those speeds
if the design intent is for gliding then it's still a glider.
plenty of piloted gliders have an engine that is used to get up to a sufficient height and then retract inside the fuselage. some use props, some use jets.
That's a very abstract penis but nevertheless this gives me hope for human spirit.
We're doomed once we've become too "civilized" to draw dick graffiti in the sky.
Brimstone is good but nothing special, meteor isn’t a UK design.
Meteor is British. workshare being farmed out via MBDA doesn't change that as MBDA UK own the rights. Hence the Japanese meteor being a deal between the UK and Japan only.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon it’s partially British but it’s not a British missile. Aim-260 is going to overshadow it anyway
There is no equivalent weapon anywhere else in the world.
11 months ago
Anonymous
There’s tons of medium range ATGMs from a multitude of countries
11 months ago
Anonymous
Name one that can be fired without a spcific target and will autonomously search an area for a target and then destroy it while coordinating with the rest of it's swarm.
Anon it’s partially British but it’s not a British missile. Aim-260 is going to overshadow it anyway
It's a British led project to answer a British requirement which was funded almost entirely by the UK in the development stage of an entirely BAE concept. All the current work assigned through MBDA could have been done by other companies. The only irreplaceable partner is the UK, which is why we own the rights to it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Pars 3, spike, Kemankes. It’s not even an important feature.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong on all counts, all three don't compete with brimstone at all. Spike NLOS is a TV guided missile ffs lmao . The last one is a cruise missile that isn't close to being in service and pars 3 is EO trash with a tiny range that has no LOAL ability and therefore no ability to seek and destroy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They all have lock on after launch capability, not that it’s an important capability, but they still have it. The brimstone is ok but it’s nothing special. I’m sorry you thought it was some kind of meme missile
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They all have lock on after launch capability,
TV guided weapons are not seek and destroy swarm weapons.
Brimstone can be fired in groups of up to 16 per aircraft, fly 60km to a target area, identify enemy vehicles and share out targets amongst them or safely abort with zero pilot input after launch. There is nothing that matches this capability. The closest weapon to this SDB II and that's obviously a glide bomb with it's own shortcomings.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Having a data link makes them extremely vulnerable to jamming. It’s why the Taurus is a better missile than JASSM
11 months ago
Anonymous
>what is fallback mode, precious
11 months ago
Anonymous
Close proximity data-links can't be jammed by any system in existence. The weapons also have a fall back option of pre-programmed geographic sectors / picking the nth target in a row,
11 months ago
Anonymous
>engaging targets out of line of sight isn't important
you haven't been watching anything coming out of Ukraine have you?
11 months ago
Anonymous
When did anyone say NLOS wasn’t important? LOAL is the meme not NLOS
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon you’re arguing with a known shill. Just search for the pic he just posted on the archives. He’s the guy who was furious when the Bradley killing a tank with its TOW video dropped
11 months ago
Anonymous
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/filename/FbF8uZ4UcAENBzS.jpg/
Holy frick, you weren't joking.
/
Why are bongs like this?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You have literally no counter arguments, that's why I always win.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You just spam
11 months ago
Anonymous
>less than a post a month during the duration of the war >spam
kys
11 months ago
Anonymous
You got exposed
11 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit you're moronic.
How do you expect a weapon firing at a NLOS target to acquire a target with zero pilot input after launch if it doesn't have LOAL?
Wis zis most recent achievement, fate has in a single puff, marked the decline of the le anglo and spelled a new era of wondrous je ne sais quoi and peaceful global dominance for zee big Fransh wiener hon hon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to zee historically bloody ascent of English cochons and the cruel subjugation it brought to le petite nations of the world. With the blessings of French monocrystal baguettes, plasma cigarette technology, quantum direct-current existentialism, quantum aircraft ejection seats and quantum enhanced street mimes will be the instruments with which France affirms its noble stewardship of 21st French republique world politics and offers the non-anglo world a different option; a humanist alternative to the depredations of anglo leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateral white flag.
Britbros how can we claim partial credit for this French invention. If we're going to agree on a storyline we need to lock it in place now before the weapon is more widely known.
French news article about the test and VMax for anyone interested: https://www.lefigaro.fr/sciences/la-france-a-teste-sa-premiere-arme-hypersonique-avec-un-planeur-depassant-les-6000-km-h-20230627
Imagine thinking we frogs give two shits about Fat Britain. Just compare newspapers in the two countries its crazy how rent free we live in your heads.
surprising France has had a lot of past programs concerning this tech. Can't speak for how they went I just know it was 5 or 6 different programs on the concept which I found interesting.
>inb4 avangard was first
I am only aware of scramjet-powered hypersonic cruise missile ASN4G, V-Max (Véhicule Manoeuvrant Experimental) glider and Aquila interceptor. Does France has anything else currently in development?
>surprising France has had a lot of past programs concerning this tech.
France is one of the very few countries that became interested in magnetohydrodynamics during the cold war, required in not only nuclear fusion, but also the understanding of hypersonic speeds and their interaction with matter and electromagnetic radiation.
How the frick can a glider reach hypersonic speeds ?
You accelerate it with a rocket and then let it glide at hypersonic speeds. It's basically a warhead that can maneuver.
So which euro leader is a manlet who's whole personality is being mad at a personification of America?
It's not a glider while reaching those speeds
Then nothing is a glider since you need to get gliders up in the first place.
>while reaching those speeds
if the design intent is for gliding then it's still a glider.
plenty of piloted gliders have an engine that is used to get up to a sufficient height and then retract inside the fuselage. some use props, some use jets.
Well well well wouldnt you like to know
If you’re white it’s easy. If you’re any other race, you’ll never figure it out.
Hmmm
That's a very abstract penis but nevertheless this gives me hope for human spirit.
We're doomed once we've become too "civilized" to draw dick graffiti in the sky.
That's a rather poorly drawn baguette
Well the French make the best missiles in Europe followed by Germany
>best missiles in Europe followed by Britain
Fixed
I know this is bait but please tell us what missiles the UK makes that’s better than France
Brimstone, Meteor, CAMM, SPEAR
Nta but Meteor is clearly European with the key part being the Kraut engine
Meteor is British. workshare being farmed out via MBDA doesn't change that as MBDA UK own the rights. Hence the Japanese meteor being a deal between the UK and Japan only.
Anon it’s partially British but it’s not a British missile. Aim-260 is going to overshadow it anyway
Brimstone is good but nothing special, meteor isn’t a UK design.
>Brimstone is good but nothing special,
There is no equivalent weapon anywhere else in the world.
There’s tons of medium range ATGMs from a multitude of countries
Name one that can be fired without a spcific target and will autonomously search an area for a target and then destroy it while coordinating with the rest of it's swarm.
It's a British led project to answer a British requirement which was funded almost entirely by the UK in the development stage of an entirely BAE concept. All the current work assigned through MBDA could have been done by other companies. The only irreplaceable partner is the UK, which is why we own the rights to it.
Pars 3, spike, Kemankes. It’s not even an important feature.
Wrong on all counts, all three don't compete with brimstone at all. Spike NLOS is a TV guided missile ffs lmao . The last one is a cruise missile that isn't close to being in service and pars 3 is EO trash with a tiny range that has no LOAL ability and therefore no ability to seek and destroy.
They all have lock on after launch capability, not that it’s an important capability, but they still have it. The brimstone is ok but it’s nothing special. I’m sorry you thought it was some kind of meme missile
>They all have lock on after launch capability,
TV guided weapons are not seek and destroy swarm weapons.
Brimstone can be fired in groups of up to 16 per aircraft, fly 60km to a target area, identify enemy vehicles and share out targets amongst them or safely abort with zero pilot input after launch. There is nothing that matches this capability. The closest weapon to this SDB II and that's obviously a glide bomb with it's own shortcomings.
Having a data link makes them extremely vulnerable to jamming. It’s why the Taurus is a better missile than JASSM
>what is fallback mode, precious
Close proximity data-links can't be jammed by any system in existence. The weapons also have a fall back option of pre-programmed geographic sectors / picking the nth target in a row,
>engaging targets out of line of sight isn't important
you haven't been watching anything coming out of Ukraine have you?
When did anyone say NLOS wasn’t important? LOAL is the meme not NLOS
Anon you’re arguing with a known shill. Just search for the pic he just posted on the archives. He’s the guy who was furious when the Bradley killing a tank with its TOW video dropped
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/filename/FbF8uZ4UcAENBzS.jpg/
Holy frick, you weren't joking.
/
Why are bongs like this?
You have literally no counter arguments, that's why I always win.
You just spam
>less than a post a month during the duration of the war
>spam
kys
You got exposed
Holy shit you're moronic.
How do you expect a weapon firing at a NLOS target to acquire a target with zero pilot input after launch if it doesn't have LOAL?
NLOS weapons without LOAL are not F&F.
Still waiting for you to show your face moron
armpit seeking warhead
>tell us what missiles the UK makes that’s better than France
He never said that, he said that Britain makes better missiles than Germany
>iris T
>Taurus
Those 2 alone set Germany above the UK
Starcope sucks ass and Storm Shadow is just a worse Taurus
VMaX 2 is supposed to be tested in 2024/2025, with an operational weapon being fielded in the 2030s
I wish France and UK would make concord 2
UK sucks at designing military gear
>Concorde
>Military gear
Opinion discarded you seething mongoloid
Worked great as a improvised cruise missile against that hotel.
Destinus is making a hypersonic plane, but it's more of a continental Europe-only endeavor so far.
>continental Europe-only endeavor
Ah i see, destined for failure then
>company named One Way
>hypersonic glide vehicle, VMaX.
closer look at the vehicle
Impressionnant
anon I don't think some of those swerves were intentional
Tres magnifique.
Wis zis most recent achievement, fate has in a single puff, marked the decline of the le anglo and spelled a new era of wondrous je ne sais quoi and peaceful global dominance for zee big Fransh wiener hon hon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to zee historically bloody ascent of English cochons and the cruel subjugation it brought to le petite nations of the world. With the blessings of French monocrystal baguettes, plasma cigarette technology, quantum direct-current existentialism, quantum aircraft ejection seats and quantum enhanced street mimes will be the instruments with which France affirms its noble stewardship of 21st French republique world politics and offers the non-anglo world a different option; a humanist alternative to the depredations of anglo leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateral white flag.
>French do something
>bongs coping and seething in the replies
if that's the manoeuvrability while gliding I'm actually impressed with the frogs
Britbros how can we claim partial credit for this French invention. If we're going to agree on a storyline we need to lock it in place now before the weapon is more widely known.
>We wuz Pierre n shieet
And then muddy the waters with some
>The HGV actually uses miniaturized Boris Johnson's to maneuver hypersonically
Uhh... it obviously leverages hypersonic tech developed by the UK during the Concorde era and kindly shared with France.
French news article about the test and VMax for anyone interested: https://www.lefigaro.fr/sciences/la-france-a-teste-sa-premiere-arme-hypersonique-avec-un-planeur-depassant-les-6000-km-h-20230627
Mach 20 and highly manoeuvrable as shown in the picture.
Gotta update the air defense software with a big one to hit this.
>Mach 20
Where the hell did you get that from?
That's the speed they are announced for when they are launched from ICBM.
>Thread about French hypersonic missile
>Angry Brit shill somehow makes it about Bongland
Every-fricking-time.jpg
As we say in French : LOYER GRATUIT/RENT FREE
>Angry Brit shill somehow makes it about Bongland
Think you'll find someone was bong blasted before we defended ourselves and won.
Imagine thinking we frogs give two shits about Fat Britain. Just compare newspapers in the two countries its crazy how rent free we live in your heads.
Ah yeah, the so dreaded "who care the least about the other country" battle. The clash to rule them all.
We enjoy laughing at you but rarely think about you outside of that. What this has to do with Brits being brought up first I don't know.
Et en prime des schleus qui peuvent pas s'empêcher de la ramener avec leur équipement surévalué.
The latest Anglo-French "wunderwaffen"? Sure looks like it.
thanks frogs, you saved the west from China