FN sues Ruger over the SFAR

https://www.usacarry.com/fn-sues-ruger-over-sfar-mark-claiming-infringement-on-its-scar-trademark/

>FN Herstal S.A. and its subsidiary, FN America LLC, have taken legal action against Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc., accusing the firearm manufacturer of trademark infringement and unfair competition. Filed in the United States District Court for the Middle District of North Carolina, the lawsuit centers on Ruger’s alleged unauthorized use of a trademark that closely mirrors FN’s registered “SCAR” mark.

>The complaint outlines FN’s long-standing history as a distinguished firearms and weapons manufacturer dating back to 1889, emphasizing its innovation and the worldwide distribution of its products. FN specifically highlights the “SCAR” trademark, under which it manufactures, distributes, and sells firearms and related items. The “SCAR” trademark, registered and recognized internationally, has been extensively promoted and associated with FN’s high-quality firearms, used by military, law enforcement, and civilian customers alike.

>FN accuses Ruger of using a mark – “SFAR” – that is pronounced similarly to “SCAR” and used in connection with directly competing firearms. FN alleges that this action by Ruger is likely to cause confusion among consumers, leading them to believe there is some affiliation or association between Ruger’s products and FN’s “SCAR” branded firearms. The complaint details Ruger’s alleged intentional violations, including marketing efforts that leverage the “SFAR” mark without reference to Ruger, potentially trading upon FN’s established goodwill.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The lawsuit seeks a permanent injunction against Ruger to prevent further use of the “SFAR” mark or any variations that could cause confusion with FN’s “SCAR” mark. Additionally, FN demands Ruger to destroy all materials bearing the infringing mark and seeks disgorgement of profits obtained through the alleged unlawful activities, alongside actual, consequential, and treble damages.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ruger has been copying shit for a long time, it's no shock they are going to get called out for it eventually (even if I agree that calling the sfar a scar copy is a stretch).

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice reading comprehension moron

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They aren't calling it a copy, those morons are saying you can't use the letters S(x)AR because they are also in SCAR.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope both sides lose the case.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    man i fricking hate ruger, but FN is desperate as frick, aren't they now?
    this is probably because they wasted everything on their failed mg, isn't it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They haven't innovated in a while and their owner is the Wallonian government who have a very anti-military/gun party in power so the company has basically been rant into the shitter

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can only pray to God that Wallonia stops being a bunch of cucks, Flanders elects the far right party and the military innovation and infrastructure is returned

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unfortunately I don't see it happening any time soon, PS basically controls Wallonia in much the same way as the LDP controls Japan. The only somewhat positive future I could see is FN going bankrupt and the Wallonian government deciding to sell off it's assets/trademarks instead of using the money to bail it out.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>FN accuses Ruger of using a mark – “SFAR” – that is pronounced similarly to “SCAR”

    essfahr vs Skahr. Im not seeing it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not either. Still a stupid lawsuit attempt and I don't see it being taken to court since scar is already a word that FN cannot claim to own.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >essfahr vs esskahr
      >ess eff ay arr vs skahr
      Waste of tax payer dollars taking up court time

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think FN is assuming that people will pronounce it "spharr" like what shape someone from Tennessee thinks a basketball is.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >like what shape someone from Tennessee thinks a basketball is.
        Shawts fhared!

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking hate lawyers.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many and what firearms does FN import to civilian U.S market right now?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly the sfar is a cool gun and as much as ruger sucks, I hope they win this one.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>FN accuses Ruger of using a mark – “SFAR” – that is pronounced similarly to “SCAR” and used in connection with directly competing firearms
    >directly competing
    FN admits themselves to be on the same tier as Ruger.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Their quality control has been in a straight down nosedive for years so I'm not surprised, FN basically solely survives on what little contracts they can muster and taxpayers money from Belgium.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Their quality control has been in a straight down nosedive
        Why are you lying homosexual?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's true though just look up how many people are having issues with the Scar 20S especially

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Scar 20S
            Again, you're making shit up. PS90, SCARs, and their ARS have the same quality control as they did 30 years ago

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >that entire line up existed 30 years ago
              Fan boys for a subpar manufacturer always gives me a giggle.
              >Squishy Fnx .45
              >Scar 20s 6.5cm issues resulting in voluntary "upgrades"
              >Scar 17s recall (pic related)
              >Fn 249s recall
              >Fn lending their name and trade dress to Umarex who then sold the FN502 .22lr pistol which fired while on safe
              If you ride FNs wiener a bit harder they might just send you one of their prone to rust Scars. Just don't put a suppressor on it if you want to keep that warranty :^)

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After handling both, I hope Ruger wins this one on principle. I don't own any ruger firearms but now I will consider an SFAR. Scar owners on rope watch.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is bogus but when gun companies are involved courts are not rational.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're fricking acronyms, who let the attorneys run this out? And at least Ruger's makes sense, FN just ignored whole damn words with theirs.
    >SFAR - Small Frame Autoloading Rifle
    >SCAR - Special [Operations Forces] Combat Assault Rifle

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For the crime of putting an acronym in an acronym FN should lose the case right now and publicly flog the guy that came up with that name

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They never emotionally recovered from the FAL's failure to launch in America and decided that such an uncool name would never happen again.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They never emotionally recovered from the FAL's failure to launch in America
          I don't think they ever tried to bring the FAL to america doe

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you moronic or just stupid.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >look nothing alike
    >sound nothing alike
    >somehow confuses consumers
    I'd call them idiots but knowing that people will confuse 380 and 38 special they may actually have a point

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would read that as S-FAR, not sfar. Is it just me?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I pick the AR part out because that's what it is. So I was thinking SF-AR like a special forces AR or some shit. Never thought about FN.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This has to be the dumbest and most desperate lawsuit in recent firearms history I think FN is just scared of going broke now that everyone is looking at replacing their M4s and 240s and everyone finally realized the SCAR is overpriced garbage that is only popular with zoomer cause of video games and havng a cool sounding acronym

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is North Carolina one of the states where you can recoup legal fee losses if you, as the defendent, win against such a stupid and frivolous lawsuit or the judge throws it out because it's moronic?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FN America is in South Carolina, and yes they do have laws against frivolous lawsuits.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >“SFAR” – that is pronounced similarly to “SCAR”
    >"Ass Eff Eyy Arr" (https://youtu.be/-qYGT3jYfG8?t=3) is pronounced similarly to "scar" (https://youtu.be/amXsjY8zpls?t=40)
    good luck finding a single living person who calls SFAR "sfar" morans

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I might start calling it that just to frick with FN

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Finally, I was so confused how I got a SCAR so cheap until I opened up the Ruger box and saw an AR-15.
    I mean, I didn't look at any pictures, read anything beyond half of a title of the website, didn't read any of the information about the rifle I was buying, but I shouldn't need to - the seller should just KNOW what I want.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I always pronounced if Suhfar which doesn't sound similar at all

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    one is a retronym, the other is an acronym. nothingburger

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SFAR probably sounds like SCAR if your mouth is full of cheese and Heinken

    FN likes to sue over whatever. I know they threatened Handle Defense over the same stuff. It screwed up some project SF command had.

    SF command scrapped it and took SCAR money and bought M4 stuff with it.

    SCAR= Shoulda Coulda And moronic

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is this FN jumping the shark? They will lose this…and to Ruger. Add in the underperforming rifle and FN is gonna be the butt of jokes for sometime.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So will FN win the lawsuit or not bros?

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope they sue the guys making HBARs too

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FN is just trying to get some money since their $3500 tuperware is not selling at any decent level.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe they'd sell more if they priced it more in line with what a sane person would expect an aluminum extrusion with a bunch of bits screwed into it and fragile plastic furniture to cost.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        fn is selling what amounts to a 1800$ rifle for a price tag of 4200$, with not noticable advantages in current day.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also needs about $800 dollars worth of mods to be useful. The rear plastic stock latch needs to be replaced and so does the front rail at a minimum. To me the SCAR is like a new Harley that comes factory over priced and needs expensive upgrades to be worth a shit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/ukp0eDm.jpg

        fn is selling what amounts to a 1800$ rifle for a price tag of 4200$, with not noticable advantages in current day.

        I'm surprised they're not going after PSA and their JAKL line, especially with the .308 version they have in the works. That's a proper poorgay SCAR copy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/ukp0eDm.jpg

        fn is selling what amounts to a 1800$ rifle for a price tag of 4200$, with not noticable advantages in current day.

        https://i.imgur.com/fCtlSS5.jpg

        [...]
        I'm surprised they're not going after PSA and their JAKL line, especially with the .308 version they have in the works. That's a proper poorgay SCAR copy.

        Also needs about $800 dollars worth of mods to be useful. The rear plastic stock latch needs to be replaced and so does the front rail at a minimum. To me the SCAR is like a new Harley that comes factory over priced and needs expensive upgrades to be worth a shit.

        FN sells the scar to the military for like $800-900 a pop. Another fun fact: Colt lost the M4 contract to FN because FN undercut Colt by $26.

        FN needs to lose this lawsuit, then have Ruger collect for damages for such a dumb attack.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >spend years thinking SCAR haters are just having a case of sour grapes
    >guy I know gets a SCAR 16 and invites me to shoot it when he takes it to its first range trip
    >rifle won’t go through a full magazine without a failure to feed
    >used the magazine that came with it, GI magazines, and gen 3 PMAGS
    >used wolf 55 gr, M193, and M855
    >shot suppressed and unsuppressed in both gas settings
    To this date I’ve never seen that rifle make it through a full magazine. The guy that owns it is too lazy to contact customer service, not that they’d do anything since it was shot suppressed.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the kind of pettiness that ensures I'll never buy from a company. Guess I won't be getting that FN 5.7 afterall, it's overpriced and shit compared to its competitors anyway.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's absolutely no way anyone would confuse an SFAR with a SCAR. Tell me they are going to lose this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're both .308 self-loading rifles with names that start with "S" and end with "R", but anyone mentally defective enough to confuse the two is a prohibited possessor anyway, so...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You mean FNs mean demographic?

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this other thing that looks exactly nothing like my thing is infringing my israeli right to own a monopoly on what things can look like

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