First time buying

Hello, /k/. I live in texas and I want to buy my first gun. Which AR are decent when it comes to quality and pricings? Although, I am still afraid that the background will deny me and authorities will come to my place.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you afraid? What would the background show?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Probably "nothing". But I am afraid that the system will malfunction or I may have some history that i may not know of that prohibits me from purchasing it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The "system"
        >some history

        Anon, in the nicest way possible unless you know of evidence to the contrary, you are a nobody. You dont have a personal agent assigned to analyze every facet of your life. No one cares...

        If you're not easily identifiable in a criminal database then you are fine. Buy what appeals to you and enjoy it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yea, I don't have any court records. Although i did talk with my doctor about anxiety problems during a check up, but they told me that exercising may with it since its not that serious enough to go to a therapist or take medications.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone has anxiety, adopting marksmanship can be an effective way to clear your mind and be less anxious. Respect the power you seek to purchase and dont do anything stupid with it. Its a tool in the end, have fun and be effective with it.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Probably, I am 20 and I just want try a gun since I have keen interest in military equipments for a long time. Although since I live in fort worth, I don't think I will havw much opportunity to shoot it freely without going to a indoor range.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, you can go to Alpine. It’s not far from Fort Worth and it’s outdoors.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Alpine is like a civilian national guard unit. It's a cool joint

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I will take note of that

                If you dont have any experience maybe try to find a range that rents out guns to shoot. Usually you just pay for the ammo and can try various handguns and rifles to get a feel for something you may want. Ask the employees to help you if you dont know what youre doing. Dont just pick up a foreign weapon and hope you figure it out because you played a videogame or something. Shooting is easier to learn then it is to develop bad habits that you would have to unlearn.

                Yea, I know. I have a basic grasp of how gun safety works, but I haven't gotten any practical experience. Before buying a gun, I should probably rent one and practice. Or I should buy a gun and go to the range and ask the employees for help on the basics.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds good anon. Hope you find something you like.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Im sure I will. I like the design of the AR/m4 platform and want to try/own one.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you dont have any experience maybe try to find a range that rents out guns to shoot. Usually you just pay for the ammo and can try various handguns and rifles to get a feel for something you may want. Ask the employees to help you if you dont know what youre doing. Dont just pick up a foreign weapon and hope you figure it out because you played a videogame or something. Shooting is easier to learn then it is to develop bad habits that you would have to unlearn.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You'll be perfectly fine.
            PSAs nowadays have a decent margin of quality and are probably the most bang for your buck. You can catch them on sale for under $500 without sights, but optics are often on sale on their website as well.
            For things you'll find in physical stores, the S&W M&P 15 is everywhere and good for the price. They used to run for ~$700, though are closer to $800.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I should probably buy one if its 500. I don't want anything too expensive, but I also want something that is decent in quality.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            literally nothing

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Ive been to therapy and take anxiety medication, and live in a commie hellhole state and have multiple guns.
            The things that get you denied for the background check are stuff on your criminal record, or if you were say went to a mental asylum. If youve never been arrested for anything and havent went to a mental asylum, abd your name isnt something ultra common like john smith, it will be fine.
            Get your AR, buy some ammo and mags, head to a range, and enjoy yourself.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Sounds good, since I live in texas, I don't think I should have any trouble and I don't need anything aside from a government issued ID to purchase it.

          • 1 year ago
            Resident Wumbologist

            I think Windham Weaponry are a pretty good middle of the road manufacturer for ARs, but PSA is fine if you're trying to keep it cheap.

            You're completely fine. It takes a court order or felony conviction to be prohibited from buying guns. There are a few other categories like being the subject of a restraining order, having given up your US citizenship or being dishonorably discharged from the military. All things you'd know about.

            [...]
            ok i just impulse bought them
            so what kind of tools do I need to build this frickin thing?

            You'll need a buffer tube wrench, that's probably the only thing you don't already have on hand. It's a special tool for screwing on the castle nut that holds your buffer tube on to your lower receiver. If you feel fancy you can get a complete AR wrench that does additional functions, but to assemble the lower the buffer wrench part of that tool is the only thing you really need.

            Other than that a small hammer, something you can use as a punch and it helps to have a razor blade or very thin blades knife to hold some of the detents in place as you slide in the takedown pins.
            I also recommend some electrical tape to protect the left side of the receiver from your punch when you are driving the bolt stop roll pin in, since the little frick is very tight and very close to the side so you have to whack it in from an odd angle. It's easy to slip and leave idiot scratches on your lower.
            Since you have time while all this ships I also recommend what's called an "oops" kit. Basically backup detents and small springs/pins in case one of the ones you're working on goes flying. If you're doing it the first time it's pretty easy to launch something across the room and having a spare on hand saves you a lot of trouble.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >You're completely fine. It takes a court order or felony conviction to be prohibited from buying guns. There are a few other categories like being the subject of a restraining order, having given up your US citizenship or being dishonorably discharged from the military. All things you'd know about.
              Ok, good. Does malfunction on the background check happens?, because I heard that it happens sometimes.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                False positive do happen like if you share the name of a felon

              • 1 year ago
                Resident Wumbologist

                It can, but typically if you have a common name. You can put your SSN on the form 4473 to differentiate yourself if that's a concern, but doing so is optional.

                OP here, should I also worry about the lead whem firing a gun? I think thats one of my main worries when it comes to owning one.

                There is some lead residue buildup but to an adult it's negligible. Wash your hands thoroughly with soap (not alcohol, you are trying to scrub a heavy metal off not kill germs) after shooting and you're fine. I was careless about it for years, detected a slightly elevated level in my blood during routine bloodwork, started washing my hands more diligently and within a few months it was back down to basically nothing. Never got high enough to cause any problems.

                Note that infants and children under 5 are far more vulnerable, so you should take more significant measures if living with any.

                https://i.imgur.com/uEY6dzo.png

                watching videos has made me realize this is pretty hard and I might be too stupid. but I've already bought the shit so I'm pretty committed. I am going to frick this ar up so bad though. damn.

                Like I said, follow the guide step by step because there are a few things that can block each other from being installed if done out of order, but for the most part it's pretty straightforward. Almost like building LEGOs.
                If that guide seems dense try looking up another one. And another one. And another one until you have a pretty good idea.

                I do recommend a spare baggie of small parts though, since it's almost inevitable that you'll launch at least one of the detents and maybe a spring across the room.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              watching videos has made me realize this is pretty hard and I might be too stupid. but I've already bought the shit so I'm pretty committed. I am going to frick this ar up so bad though. damn.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Is it your first gun too? Or is it your first time assembling it only? Either ways, its a learning experience and as long as you got the right tools, all you need to do is follow the steps for the gun you're planning to assemble.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The NICS system and the 4473 (background form) are concerned with involuntary commitments. Routine psychiatric care is not a disqualification.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              its essentially just covers anything in the legal sense?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                To put it as succinctly as possible, you would have to either seriously frick up from a legal standpoint or have been involuntarily committed to a psych ward to be denied. Just going to a therapist for anxiety or even depression doesn't preclude you from being able to own a gun. As an aside, if you ever do feel like you're too anxious or depressed to have a firearm, you can ask a reputable gun range or store in your area to hold your firearms for you for a month or so until you're feeling better. I've seen several friends do exactly that after having a spouse or close friend die or when they were going through a divorce, one of them gave me his guns to hold onto for a month and the other used his local range for the same purpose since we lived too far away. Good on you for seeking treatment for mental health issues, but unless they're extreme enough to have been involuntarily committed or held against your will they won't keep you from being able to get a gun.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You are clearly too much of a gaping vegana to own a gun.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Although, I am still afraid that the background will deny me and authorities will come to my place.
    Just buy a PSA AR-15

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You can get a killer PSA kit for 350 - 400, and then find an Anderson receiver for 50$ ish. Just do not buy cheap sights. Spend 100$ minimum on a set of irons from a reputable organization. Learn shooting fundamentals.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Although, I am still afraid that the background will deny me and authorities will come to my place.
    why?

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The prices seem fine.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-midlength-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-moe-ept-rifle-kit-rear-mbus-516444983.html
    Buy a kit and a stealth lower. Watch a video and assemble it yourself. Punch set, hammer, and AR armorer's wrench required. It's cheaper overall, and you'll learn something.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't say cheaper initially, but ots probably a good investment for me for future purchases. I will probably buy a complete set and then a kit in the future.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      wait, so if I buy this https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-stealth-lower.html
      with that then I can make a full ar?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yea but you have to separate it into 2 orders and the overall price will end up being roughly the same.
        you also have to be over 21 for a stripped lower. its 18 for the complete rifle unless you are in a shitty state.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You don't have to separate the orders. It will just ask for a separate shipping address to your FFL.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You might also wait until the next holiday sale, unless you live in Washington state or a similar leftist shithole..

          ok i just impulse bought them
          so what kind of tools do I need to build this frickin thing?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You might also wait until the next holiday sale, unless you live in Washington state or a similar leftist shithole..

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    is this all i need? https://www.amazon.com/Gunsmithing-Removing-including-Universal-Automotive/dp/B09L81Z77W

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      ok i just impulse bought them
      so what kind of tools do I need to build this frickin thing?

      Like

      https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-midlength-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-moe-ept-rifle-kit-rear-mbus-516444983.html
      Buy a kit and a stealth lower. Watch a video and assemble it yourself. Punch set, hammer, and AR armorer's wrench required. It's cheaper overall, and you'll learn something.

      Said. You need a punch set, hammer and a AR Armorers wrench.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    OP here, should I also worry about the lead whem firing a gun? I think thats one of my main worries when it comes to owning one.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >should I also worry about the lead whem firing a gun?
      No, the lead cores of bullets are never exposed and are always encased in a copper jacket. Exposure to lead is minimal. If you're really paranoid however, "green ammunition" exists that is lead-free and uses solid copper or brass rounds.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, I see. Because when researching, I always see articles and studies fear mongering it along with ways of cleaning up after shooting

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