First person POV view of first-person combat.
Landing infantry in a position and then engaging in a small arms battle with the enemy.
It seems like people mostly use AKs.
https://files.catbox.moe/l9284m.MP4
https://files.catbox.moe/rcp08d.MP4
First person POV view of first-person combat.
When I saw that ramp, I was expecting Bradleys, but no, they're getting their mileage out of the Gavin, it seems. Any word which part of the front this is?
This looked like some episode from WW2 game from mid 00s.
Eastern europe is always misery, but to be frank mid-atlantic winter and outside looks pretty fricking bleak so I am sure if we had wars here they'd look miserable too.
You always get corruption with financial aid. Seeing the decrepit state of some of Israel's shit makes me certain there is absolutely no chance none whatsoever that they magically make every iota of their money go to the right place. Especially when the Israelis today aren't your plucky cold war era colonist/European israelitery but instead are slimy Russian israelites. Since Ukraine's is mostly materiel and not just funny money it'll at least limit it to reselling corruption and hard to do that with big heavy vehicles as opposed to "oh nobody'll notice if we skim 5% of the rifles from this donation". We'll see how corrupt they were post mortem but there's no way Ukraine is anywhere near the malfeasance that Afghanistan did. And forgive me but helping to kill Russians is actually a little bit more meaningful and useful for our foreign policy than spending treasury and manpower to teach Afghan girls to yass qween.
It's more to me that it took about 20 years (and more, given the delay in getting Bradleys out in volume) to go
>Hm maybe we could up-gun an M113
Since the dutch figured that out around 1970 and the Australians figured out a turret is a good idea and the fricking (South) VIETNAMESE are the ones who figured out turret-shields and gun-trucking up the m113 was a good idea. We didn't teach them that, the ARVN taught us that. The US for some reason just had a really shortsighted view on IFVs until the bradley came along and managed to be the IFV king. So I guess tortoise and the hare situation really.
I still advocate for the creation of quad M2 mounts on top of a Gavin as infantry support vehicles.
something like this? the turret, with the 25mm guns swapped out
Yep.
I personally advocate for that but replace the 25mm Oerlikon KBA cannons with M168 20mm's.
hmmm, there might be room for a second ammo supply but I don't know if you'd go for more than that; having three seems a bit odd and I don't think you could do 4.
It wouldn't even be hard. A maxson could be set on top with almost no modifications
I mean there are lots of M113's, lots of M2's and they're more easily repaired than Bradley's... I am surprised USA hasn't just done it. It'd give any guys in a tree line more to worry about than the single M2 that it uses as default.
in fairness sticking shit on Gavins is whatever everyone besides america did with the gavins we gave them, our own variants of the gavin were somewhat limited, since by the time we had more interesting shit to stick on top of them, we had bradleys with chain guns and TOWs. Its everyone who wanted bradleys but couldn't afford them that started turning Gavins into shitty wal-mart brand bradleys.
Oh yeah I know, I meant more as something to sell to those nations since we've got plenty of them in storage. Hell, do it and give it to Ukraine.
you'll notice in the list of american versions enar the bottom, the vast majority of them are some sort of light armored logsitical support vehicle.
the armed variants are usually either missile or mortar carriers.
Turkey already did the M113 w/ m45 Quad .50 mount. M113A2T1
fug forgot link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_the_M113_armored_personnel_carrier
You know, when I said a maxson could do it with almost no modifications I almost looked to see if anyone had already done it, being so easy
Well then, time to make sure and hand them to Ukraine I say!
>Gavin
So were you dropped as a child or something?
Quad 50s are overly heavy and while sexy a single .50 paired with a belt-fed grenade launcher would be a more pragmatic mix. More tracks with mortars would be useful too since flat trajectory weapon is so limited when attacking trench and treeline. Overhead cover is weakest and hardest to erect, while mortars take time to move manually.
>Gavin
moron.
>He doesnt call it Gavin
You´re a no fun no guns homosexual, propably an assburger too.
It's a Gavin you fricking homosexual
>M 1 1 3
>M 11 3
>M 1 13
the hell you want b***h ?
Em onehundredandthirteen
it'll never be called gavin.
Death to Mike Sparks, but it's a catchy name.
>le im relatable to the /k/ may mays
kys, warriortard
who is performing the blood curdling screams in the 2nd vid?
anyway, god bless the Ukrainian army.
TZD will be achieved in our lifetimes.
a ukie that stepped on a small mine
and you know it how?
cause i was mine
because you asked. camera mics cant pic up noise from far away, who else would be near the camera man to scream like that?
how do you know it was a mine?
use your fricking brain my guy
Gavinchads eating good
Those 2 mfrs ran like hell
>First person POV view of first-person combat.
Holy shit I'm gonna have a seizure trying to read this shit
welcome to the interwebs, where zoomies exist and grammar doesn't matter.
what about the points though
>POV, ruskis start moving shit to the border for ""''training""'' in 2022
I often wonder how things would be now if Ukraine took the pragmatic approach and just shored up their border rather than left it largely undefended so as not to provoke an attack. Would things have been any different? Better? Could even have been worse, with the bulk of their forces being closer to initial Russian positions and in range of all of their artillery, dumps and all
well the tankies and armatards would instead say that fortifying the border provoked the russians into invading instead of whatever excuse of a "casus beli" they are currently using
i honestly think they did the correct thing, if not perhaps strictly intentionally.
If they lined up and prepared for a fight I don't think the rushshits would have run fully on the assumption that the Ukrainians would roll over and let them pass.
That assumption was the absolute keystone of the entire frickup we've seen play out over the last 2 years.
People aren't going to like to read this, but if russia had started off fighting like they are now it would have been a very different story. air defense systems would have been actually switched on and the guys making the thunder run to Kiev probably wouldn't have been such easy targets. Remember this is when they actually had lots of equipment and ammo to spare.
Intentionally or no, UKR's forces ended up doing the correct thing. letting the thunder runs hilariously overextend, ambushing the living assgoles out of them and preying on the disorganization. they were able to destroy/capture so much of the expensive gear because the vatniks practically delivered it.
If UKR had lined up to fight, it's possible that that's precisely what they would have gotten and despite russia being fundamentally moronic, they still had the mass to moronicly push through at that point.
No. Not even close.
Russia has always been unable to take the offensive. Just like now, as soon as a static line forms, ukes set up a mobile grinder and bait them in. K/D is a winning game for Ukraine. Russian vehicles across the board are finite; western donations are not. They may be slowed by constantly making sure we're expending the least fancy shit, but effectively this is NATO ending Russia.
>The ass is in the ass
I don't see the problem to be tbh
>forgot about the filter
Shaking my baka
Looks like the lead guy from "Werewolf Like Me".
It's about as organized and professional as our brigade does it, although even we dismount better. The guys used at least a platoon on that position with no mortar or artillery resistance in sight, which is very strange to me. That must be the easiest job those guys will ever get
Their gear is pretty low-spec, no M4s or IFVs, so this could be one of the more mellow ends of the front, perhaps where the shells are getting pulled from to support Avdiivka or somesuch.
It doesn't depend on the job or part of the front, believe me. Our brigade got barely usable m113, and we all are equipped with AKs. During the summer campaign one guy in each squad got that Polish rifle, Grot. We don't have them anymore, and they turned out to be shit.
But more to the point, despite our subpar equipment we're deployed to the worst part of the southern front, so that's that. Almost nobody has Bradleys, it's mostly the 47th brigade's thing. The rest of us peasants drive on the Vietnam age armour.
Okay, if you're speaking from experience, then I'll defer. good luck down there, I'll write my congressman about hurrying the frick up with the next batch of the good shit.
Please do it, write him to send like 500 bradleys.
I'll write mine to make sure they don't send any more. I'll ask that they hand them out to US citizens though. Imagine Americans getting to shoot bradleys.
>fat larpers need military vehicles
damn right, much more urgent than anything a ukrainian is going though.
This. People (on both sides) think that the amount of equipment handed to Ukraine was huge amounts and Ukraine should have been waltzing through Russian defences. It is nowhere near enough. The West doesn't seem to have the amounts needed or willingness to give them.
Prior to summer, wect supplied about 15% on average among all positions of all promised/pledged equipment. The biggest ratio is proabably 155 shells, which is something like 40% out of million.
And yet "somehow" our brilliant leaders think we're giving Ukraine "too much" aid. We've barely started.
>brilliant leaders think we're giving Ukraine "too much" aid.
Yup. 0.003% of GDP is way to much.
Frickers are throwing away an easy win.
>The West doesn't seem to have the amounts needed
We have more than enough to steamroll all the way to the Urals if needed.
>willingness to give them
The goal is to grind Russhit to dust, not defeat them overnight.
Attrition.
BBC PUCCIA will cease to exist as it is today. It will become a footnote in the history books.
Sadly though, more Ukrainians will have to die to make that a reality.
>Eastern Europeans are literally so stupid that they issued one rifle in an entirely different caliber to each squad instead of just filling out an entire squad with that rifle and the rest of their formations with others
This reminds me of the time in Iraq where the 20th IA commander unironically tried to convince me that having everyone in a fireteam use a different caliber was a good idea
>having everyone in a fireteam use a different caliber was a good idea
Good Lord, I’m a moronic layman but even I know that’s fricking stupid. What was his reasoning for it?
nta but if I had to guess it's so that each person can specialize in a different role.
His line of thought was "If the AKs jam, we still have M4s in the fireteam" and vice-versa. I tried explaining how stupid that was, but it never got through.
No, it was a schizo tangent about how if one rifle jammed he still had other kinds of rifles. I tried explaining that this wasn't some kind of video game or something where all the rifles of one particular variety are suddenly useless, but you know what they say about convincing a moron he's wrong.
Yeah anon, the entire battalion's rifles, which have passed trials elsewhere, are all going to fail at exactly the same time.
I agree, it was a stupid idea.
I dunno, the latest one at the time, I think. It's very prone to get rusty, more so than our AKs. And I think they were havier, which came as a surprise.
>new rifle
>no one has experience with it
>never field tested
>yeah lets equip an entire battalion with it and nothing else so when issues with the rifle come up the entire battalion is properly fricked.
I mean it wasn't terrible as far as an assault rifle goes. It's like a dollar tree AR15 with full auto and shitty materials. It was tested enough.
Ideas on paper don't always translate to good ideas in the field.
Testing equipment in real world conditions proves something works or doesn't.
I've seen videos of 223 ARs being used as DMRs in assault groups otherwise equipped with iron-sighted AKs. Makes sense in that role.
>It's like a dollar tree AR15
No it's not, it's short stroke.
>inb4 same thing
Cheaply-made piston guns don't work, cheaply made DI ARs work. DI lends itself to being "dollar store" while still working very reliably.
Rifle is rifle
Slav
Rifle Is Shoot
Die
You literally push the trigger and the rifle goes pew. There's nothing more to it.
what is this pushing of triggers rifle you speakings ofs?
i only see and feel pullings of trigger rifles, but pushings trigger rifle only pew?
not, pew pew, pewpewpew?
Okay you got me
God Bless you and keep you and your fellow soldiers safe
Which generation of grot did you guys get?
Oh hey a soldat
Here's a question, what's the weirdest/oldest shit You've seen in the hands of some dead mobik?
I have a feeling Ukes have scrounged some local counter offensive resources. Seeing more m113s with Soviet autocannons and the like.
>1:00 in first video
is he listening to fricking Bangarang?
lmao seems the russkies were having a party. I wonder if they got caught by surprise because the music was covering the sound of incoming vehicles? kek
Gotta admit, as much as bro step sucks, blasting it while assault a trench probably does give a psychological advantage.
What's the advantage of having wub wub music blasting while conducting a trench assault?
War songs are as old as war. Everybody needs something to jam too to psyche themselves up.
>he doesn't fantasize about playing the shitty music over you like over a cheap speaker to hype you up while storming a trench
>mount a shitty JBL speaker on drone
>as you storm the trench it flies overhead constantly
>can broadcast whatever you want, from music to hype the attackers to calls for surrender
Could be cool
>PREPARE YOUR ANUS
Nothing under new under the sun
>they're playing war drums
>the thieving bastards!
We would dance to Brittney Spears and backstreet in route to an assault then blare rob zombie with ear protect and radios on.
It's terrifying to the enemy and they can't hear shit during a coordinated attack.
Bad guys fear my Dragula
How tf am I downloading the vid faster than it's buffering?
yeah I was honestly shocked as well since it usually takes 2 years for me to download a catbox video
By the looks of things, Russia wouldn't last a week in a continental war. They struggle to remain coordinated against an inferior and vastly smaller enemy.
Just like Nazi Germany would have collapsed if France just kicked the door in when it had the chance, Germany being busy in the East. It's not going to be the case for long, if Russia is allowed to rebuild and retrain what it needs.
Very true
You're right, we should send more hardware instead,
>source cropped out
now why would you do that, pidor?
I can't find his specific source, but the nations that have reported it
>Middle East Monitor
>BNN Breaking
>HEPRESS
>Pravada (RU)
And loads of other irrelevant places. There is no source or info about this other than 'He died totally, really suspicious'. Like it could be true but why not give actual evidence?
Wait so you're saying Russia has been fighting a war against a nation full of corruption and all the aid and weapons have been sold and used to fund Zelensky... Sorry, Zelensky's mother in law (not even real family but the article won't say that in the headline) claim purchase of a villa... So how is Russia not winning handsomely? What the frick is going on? How can Russia be losing to such a corrupt state? How is Ukraine holding them off with nothing when it is all sold on the blackmarket? How is the country running when all the money went into Zelensky's personal bank account (because each leader of a nation has a personal bank account only he access to which he uses to run the country, Biden has the entire US treasury in his personal bank account, that's how aid works right? It goes into his bank account, right?). Also there is absolutely no reason for Russia to try and reduce aid for Ukraine by claiming it is all stolen and siphoned away by corruption. They have nothing to gain by doing that.
First person point of POV view of first-person combat.
>trillions in Ukraine
That's because you're a moron that falls for populist garbage.
Populist as in believing what is best for regular people instead of the statist homosexuals like you ?
Exactly, that's what populism is.
Populism is going for what everyone wants, not what's best for everyone. The two are often, but not always, the same thing. Populists are why the founding fathers opted for a representative democracy rather than a direct democracy. It's more important now than ever in history, given the ease of which untold millions or billions can be manipulated through social engineering. It will get even worse, with ai rendering even what we see or hear as suspect, unless it's in person
The reason populists are big now is that technocrats spent the last 30 years debunking their own claims of competence. Policies like sending as much manufacturing capacity as possible to a hostile communist dictatorship make it really hard to play the 'I'm just too smart for you plebs to comprehend" card.
> Populists are why the founding fathers opted for a representative democracy rather than a direct democracy.
Imagine thinking that, A) a system where the people only vote for who will make the decisions for them, is somehow less vulnerable to populism than B) a system where the people directly make decisions by themselves for themselves. Representative democracy was put forward for two main reasons 1) efficiency of communication among jurists in a pre-industrial context (no longer relevant), and 2) to make sure that the aristocratic elite could not be easily dispensed of altogether, and that power could only change hands between the powerful. This was meant as a safeguard against radical shifts and instability. For that, it literally requires populism; because how else would you get a bunch of common folk to decide that a bunch of rich aristocrats can represent the people better than themselves.
>what the best for everyone
Populism is going for the popular opinion, not what is right or wrong. There are reasons to why some of the founding fathers thought populism was a bad idea.
Trillions of pesos?
>Western media and politicians loudly trumpeted propaganda that said Russia was no more than a "glorified gas station" and was already out of fuel, food, supplies and troops for all of 2022 and 2023.
Where? Can you point a link where a western media source (of repute) states that Russian has RUN OUT/FULLY OUT/COMPLETELY OUT of those things? I'll wait.
Also, even Russia admits that sanctions basically crippled the country and it was only due to their draconian economic control and desperation to India and China that saved them.
Do your own internet search, or ask your mommy to help you. CNN ran banner headlines stating that Russia was out of food and fuel in March of 2022.
No, no they didn't. The burden of proof lies with you.
Do your own reseacrh.
(You) Noooo, that's not fair,
I did, nowhere did any media state that Russia was completely out/run out/had none left of anything.
Like I don't even understand this kind of response. You made a claim, you then refuse to back it up and you just go 'find it yourself' how can I find something that doesn't exist?
>Kyiv offensive runs out of gas three days into it, with perfectly good armor abandoned all along the roads to the capital
>Western media writes an article about it
>Vatniks drag those articles out and misstate the context to farm some hurr durr western propaganda stupid points
You hate to see it.
No they didn't and you're a fricking liar.
>Bro trust me! Do your own research!
Any idiot who can't back up their own claims needs to shut the frick up and sit down.
And how's the Kiev front doing these days?
If China and the Saudis hadn't decided to support Russia then their economy would have collapsed last year.
Ah you're one of those morons who think
>Obama did nothing, Trump sent the weapons!
Ignoring that Trump was legally obligated by Congress to send those weapons as it was Obama who had signed the order. Not that I don't disagree with you, Obama was an idiot in pulling out of Europe and giving Putin reason to go for it. But if you think le maga trump was the reason that Ukraine got support from USA, you're moronic. He did it because he was obligated to. UK did it because they just hate Russia. Meanwhile Germany started building military and training bases for Russia kek.
UK was also obligated
It wasn't obligated to help at all. It's actual obligation it bailed on.
It did not bail, it sent weapons to help defend its sovereignty, and to this day claims it will support Ukraine till it gets to the borders it agreed to help maintain.
Lol just like that second world war... Stalin killed anyone involved with german training however
Do your own research
(you) Noo, the burden of proof is on you.
The west claimed they would run out of supplies, right before the largest collapse of the front from Kyiv to Kharkiv, and then months later from Kharkiv, and then again from Kherson.
I think they were right don't you?
>Then the same propagandists wonder why the American people question the trillions of $'s being squandered in Ukraine.
>Call me a Putin apologist for pointing out the fact that the Biden administration is a catastrophe for America
if not b8 you're either a moron or a russian propagandist, either way rethink your worthless life because you are fricking cancerous .
>the trillions of $'s being squandered in Ukraine.
>squandered
i'm not poor. my taxes could quadruple and i wouldn't notice or care - especially if it means i get to watch HD footage of ziggers getting mulched (in new and ever increasingly humiliating ways) every single morning with my first cup of coffee.
>ATM machine
>PIN number
thanks, boomers
>POV view
thanks, zoomers.
Anything else?
>ATM machine
kek. But go all the way with "automated ATM machine" and "personal PIN number"
and it's not DM it's PM, it's pronounced "jiff", and it's a pound sign not a hashtag
#me too is pronounced "pound me too"
>it's pronounced "jiff"
This is a lie. You only pronounce the peanut butter that way.
Everything else you said is valid.
The j sound for a g in acronyms has precedent
Is the acronym for George Washington bridge pronounced as "Gee W bridge" or the "Jee W Bridge"?
Only GenYners call it "giff." Everybody older still uses the original pronunciation and Zoomers don't even know what one is
This. I learned HTML in the 90s and the tutorial CDs all had it with a soft G.
And gin, giant, ginger, etc. And that's just the "gi" words.
What part of "Wilhite was wrong" was so hard to parse?
What sound does the first letter in giraffe make
What sound does the first letter in graphics make? Because gif stands for Graphics Interchange Format
What sound does the first letter in "government" make? Because G-man stands for government man, and no one pronounces it Ghee-man
This would make sense if it were g-if, but its not. It's gif. in G-man we are saying the letter G, not pronouncing its sound.
>"jiff"
Wilhite was wrong.
>Bu-bu-buh he made-
Don't care, he's still wrong.
>it's not DM it's PM
it can be both
The acronym "DM" was has been in widespread usage since the late 1970s, long before Twatter started misusing it
>it's pronounced "jiff",
Still dumb. It's gif, sorry, that's the English language. Tolkien isn't coming back to go
>Actually it's pronounced Jandulf
>nijjer
Do your own research
(You) Noooo, You are a liar . Shut the frick up and sit down..
Lulz.all around
>I dislike Russia and Ukraine equally but my child smelling president and his child predator son aren't sending my money and our equipment to Russia, are they? Only brought it up because some homosexual said we need to send more like usual. Hurry up and win or lose, idc but end it already and take your shill threads with you
Your a brainwashed moron or a Russian propagandist. It says everything anyone wants to know about your 'thought's 'that it's impossible to tell the difference. You can't tell the difference between Russian and Ukraine? What kind of shovel headed moron are you?
>and take your shill threads with you
Please get off the board, frick off with your crap
it seems like every single infantry engagement in Ukraine is less than 400 meters, sometimes even much less when assaulting trenches or towns.
people keep telling me that the future of infantry fighting will be 800+ meters.
what is this bullshit?
To be fair, both Russia and Ukraine are fighting with what they have(although in different circumstances) so neither of them are really choosing battle conditions.
It's a normal cycle. In conventional war rifles are for under 200m with a few incidents of 300m, while beltfeds cover the 200-800m ranges and artillery/air support/drones/atgms/mortars/grenade launches is spammed as the main weapon for everything beyond 200-500 meters.
But tight rules of engagements in counter-insurgency banning most beltfeds and HE result in DMRs making a comeback as infantry cucked out of their main tactics has to scramble for copes.
A non-Afghanistan example of this is 762 weapons in the Mexican army and some South American ones.
It's also a misunderstanding of deeper cause and effect by morons who see new optics improving infantry ranges, but who don't anticipate the reaction to those optics will be more infantry tactics of sticking to complex terrain where those long ranges don't exist.
the future of warfare is LESS infantry with LESS engagement distance between enemy infantry.
humans are just too squishy for today's dangerous warfare environment.
that's why infantry in the future will be relegated to cover-rich environment like cities/forests/jungles with unimpeded line of sights only up to 350 meters or less.
this is also why NGSW is a fricking stupid idea. Rest in peace LSAT.
>NGSW is a fricking stupid idea. Rest in peace LSAT.
its for low intensity counter sniping, not actual wars.
>cover-rich environment
You will see first the advent of new means of providing thick easily deployed prevalent cover over the battlefield than the relegation of infantry to more niche roles.
I'm suprised we arent seeing tunnels being introduced in this war. With how many trenches were made, why arent they making tunnels?
>what is this bullshit?
NGSW requires Smart Glass augmented reality to be justifiably functional, and it will come into its own primarily to vector in small arms fire on incoming drones at extended distances. Something like this will have to be implemented successfully in small special forces units first before it hits the mass adoption big time. Hybrid cases upping pressures for less heat transfer at radically lower weight does look to be on the horizon at least.
modern warfare is so fricking gay.
>wear camo
>oh shit no one knows who's who
>tape up with bright tape!
>defeat purpose of camo
just go back to bright colored uniforms at this point. camo is useless if you have to tape up just to avoid friendly fire
how are we still getting these posts two years later. the tape goes on for situation where you need to ID friendlies, comes off when you want to hide.
>When camo becomes so good that it becomes a problem for your own troops
It seems like nobody saw it coming
that's not what camo is for
note that the tape is fresh, even if the uniforms are dirty. They tape up before going into close contact, because camo isnt worth shit in close anyway and its more important to know who is who in a split second. when everyone is a slav wearing mottled muddy camo carrying an AK. They probably dont wear that stuff when they're staring at each others trenches across 400 yards of potato fields, where the camo is useful and the tape would be a nice aim point for snipers.
thats how trench warfare is. same with city. The longer ranged stuff is slower and uninteresting to watch so you never see video. Keep in mind that what you see is whats cut and published by PR teams for propaganda or instructional value. What you see on video =/= whats actually happening in total by any measure, you're seeing a curated subset no matter which side is showing, and the curators 100% have an agenda.
All that said thus far every time people have said infantry ranged at moving to 800 meters in the last hundred years they have been wrong and average distance has remained in the 100-300m bracket. The obsession with longer ranged capability in the west comes from experience in the various brown desert shitholes where infantry were routinely pressed into counter sniping by irregular forces. The idea behind stuff like the NGSW smart sight is to give the grunt the ability to reach out and touch someone easily at 500m+ without actually training him as a sniper/counter or even as a proper DMR. just give a him a tool that lets him put rounds at a particular range reliably, because for 90% of encounters with harassing dunecoons thats all you really need.
>potato fields
Wheat anon, it's wheat. What do you think the yellow bottom half of the Ukraine represents? Taters?
they are slavs.
everything they do
they do for potato.
Yes I am aware the Ukraine has been the breadbasket of eastern europe and surrounding areas for literally all of recorded history.
>yellow bottom half of the Ukraine represents
Sunflowers infa 100%
Thats not the point of camo and tapes do not reduce the efficiency of the camo.
Trump is a businessman, if he could trade Ukraine's territory for peace and present it as his victory, he would do that. He says that he will end this war in a day lmao, but putin also pretends to be tough and to make him step back Trump needs something more than populism.
>he says that he will end this war in a day
USAF’s has two years to plan it out, they probably could.
The way I see it, aiding Ukraine to victory is the quickest and cheapest way to be done with the mess. Russia has made it pretty clear that they have no intention of stopping their shenanigans. All Ukraine wanted to do was trade with the west. Leaving them to their own devices will lead us to the same place we were in 1946
>spineless
Nyet just paralyzed with indecisiveness from infinite capacity to see shades of grey
>no real task organization in the form of assault and support elements
>everyone just haphazardly dismounting the M113's with seemingly no pre plan as to what to actually do once getting out of the APC
>initiative is never really taken the entire time
>APC's just randomly driving around, not suppressing, not supporting
>everyone just stuck in the trench not knowing what to do, injuries starting to happen
Jesus fricking Christ. You're not supposed to use airsoft tactics in a real war.
Just because there are no visible tracer rounds, doesn't mean there's no support from the APCs.
You literally see one of the M113's driving around in full view of the position the POV through a grenade in with said M113's gunner looking the other way.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/26460
Moscow Deploys 35,000 National Guards to Counter Partisans in Occupied Ukraine
Around 35,000 Russian troops from the Russian National Guard (Rosgvardia) have been deployed in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine, according to partisan spokespersons quoted by the National Resistance Center of Ukraine (CNR).
Now, granted, the source is what it is... but isn't Rosgvardia supposed to be the "internal security forces"? The ones meant to counter any internal uprisings and to beat up protestors?
How well is your war going, if your emperor's personal pretorian guard has to go to front lines?
Asking for a fellow dictator.
You know what that means.......MOAR sabotage is now possible against the enemy inside his own borders. Those 35,000 aren't guarding Russia anymore.
Its a very large umbrella organisation, some of them are elite, some of them are police oriented, some are military oriented. Its more like their equivalent of the French gendarmerie conglomerated with various special forces units , police units, and an actual military brigade. Given most of them are armed police specialising in counter-terrorism, its not surprising that they're being deployed to do armed policing against insurgency/terrorism.
Rosgvardia = NKVD by another name. The more things in Russia change, the more they stay the same. They're being deployed to wipe out anyone even remotely suspected of being a Ukrainian patriot or partisan, which means basically arresting or 'disappearing' any male aged 15-65 who isn't an active zigger collaborator.
Umm no?
Thats fsb
Rosgvardia existed during soviet times as internal troops
Rosgvardiya was created as a completely new organisation, it wasn't just renamed as fsb or rf.
Poccgvardia is homosexual in new unirorms, forces to beat any protesters against regime in Mosque and other big cities. They even got tanks after prigione coup.
If they're in Ukraine, they're not in Russia. Time for some tasty sabotage.
Poccgvaria is always in russia to defend regime. The only time they left is few colons to Kyiv and Kharkiv to beat up ukrainian resistance after occupation. That didnt end well.
35k is 10% of their total amount. If 10% of the entire organization have been moved to Ukraine to oppress locals, I guarantee there are now opened undefended spots in Russia.
>Now, granted, the source is what it is... but isn't Rosgvardia supposed to be the "internal security forces"? The ones meant to counter any internal uprisings and to beat up protestors?
Well yes, moron. And they're now doing those things plus counter insirgency on newly conquered territory. What exactly confuses you here?
> How well is your war going, if your emperor's personal pretorian guard has to go to front lines?
To be fair, they're not praetorians at all. You think of them as analogous to the Adeptus Custodes, when they're more like the Adeptus Arbites. And they're not really being deployed as frontline troops, they're to serve as the occupation force, which is fitting since they are trained in counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism. When you occupy land, you have to deal with a lot of sabotage. And these are precisely the anti-sabotage militarized police units.
Just shut the frick up already. You’re schizophrenic and no one cares about some guys Black person dog
That dude calls everyone warriortard if the OP has anything to do with an armored vehicle
You got him seething jej
>Putin sat on his hands while trump was in office because he knew he'd have gotten a much more direct response.
my double-digit republican friend, your belowed orange man in diapers literally got impeached for trying to blackmail zelensky on behest of putin
He's right though, Trump was Putin's biggest dickrider outside of Hungary.
That’s probably the gayest looking dog I have ever seen
>t.
>It seems like people mostly use AKs.
No shit
Same poster (warriortard).
It's the problem of every red blooded American to fight Russia and Russian interests
Valiant attempt warriortard. It’s quite obvious you are falseflagging because you were called out
Oh, now after your false flag and samegayging was pointed out i'm supposed to be warriortard, warriortard? How creative.
Why do you even have to false flag and samegay so much when you are supposes to be correct? Looks more like a loser thing to do by someone who knows how wrong he is.
>Just admit it, no one gives a shit about Ukraine anymore. No more free bidenbux for hohols, call it the Hoholcene Extinction.
If the Oinkraine is about to fall, then why are you so upset, cumrat?
I thought you were showing firemen going into a forest fire
>First person POV view of first-person combat
>First person POV view of first-person combat
>in this ITT thread
First-person point of view view of first-person combat in this in this thread thread
No, i'm not warriortard, but yes warriortard false flags and fakes being his enemies, because he has no morals and this is the only way he thinks he can get support from others. That is how bad of a schizo warriortard is.
Btw, what was your first post in this conversation, totally not warriortard?
Been saying this for a while and I'll say it again:
>M113's are the single most useful thing you can send them
In terms of sheer versatility you really cant match them. You can use them for CASEVAC, you can use them as log vehicles, you can use them to ferry troops from the front to the rear and you can, apparently, use them as IFV's.
>https://files.catbox.moe/l9284m.MP4
So much yellow on their helmets
How better to identify friend from foe in a trench?
that cluster of men at the APC door is asking for a drone grenade
why is he facing the wrong way?
>humvee rushes
>yellow team getting vomitted out of M113s
Every now and then, this war gives me hard C&C 1995 vibes.
>Banderites raving to skrillex in the trenches
so btr vs m113 who wins the middle cold war apc match up
Pretty cool use of IRL fireteam bounding there.
Who's on first?
Such a smartass for running and shooting their gun in the open with zero cover, it's totally not like the only thing that gives away your position in combat is your muzzleflash
You're kind of supposed to shoot in combat, anon
>this is what the COD zoomer unironically believes
>https://files.catbox.moe/l9284m.MP4
WEBM.
>webm
it's not really a webm if it doesn't even have sound.
WEBMs don't have sound on /k/, anon, unless the webm is posted on /wsg/.
>https://files.catbox.moe/rcp08d.MP4
>0.49
Seeing that 50cal riding hot on top of the m311 pretty sweet.
Never thought I would see the old girl killing what she was made to kill. Good for her.
i dont get the meaning of the picture, i might be moronic.
>comparing mobilized army and non-mobilized
You are fine, it's tweetoid who are moronic.