First look at UK's Challenger 3 main battle tank prototype [PROPER]

The non-tard thread for you, gents. Note that the tard used an old photo, because he is very stupid.

IAV 2024 — The German-UK joint venture Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land (RBSL) has shared imagery of a first British Army Challenger 3 Main Battle Tank (MBT) prototype, after completing the build of the new vehicle at its Telford, England, production facility.

There will be a total of eight prototypes of the Challenger 3 to enable a wide range of trials to be undertaken, followed by Low-Rate Initial Production (LRIP) and Full-Rate Production (FRP).

Images of Challenger 3 P1 show that it has a slightly wider and longer turret which could also be fitted to other MBTs as part of an upgrade package.

https://shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/first-challenger-3-rolled-out
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/01/revealed-first-look-at-uk-challenger-3-main-battle-tank-prototype

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't the UK joining the German/French next gen tank project?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      not as far as I know, perhaps they'll join later on.
      those next-gen projects are for the mid to long-term future, like 10-20 years in the future.
      for the short to mid-term future, all three countries have upgrades for their current MBTs in the works, Challenger 3 for the UK, Leclerc XLR for France, and Leopard 2A8/2AX for Germany.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you Germany!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you're welcome

      Why don't they just buy Abrams or Leopard 2? It l has a German gun and German armor, as well as an American engine. It isn't even a British tank anymore.

      because they already have a fleet of working Challenger 2 and just want to upgrade them instead of building/buying entirely new tanks.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's a bit more than a basic upgrade, they are rebuilding the entire vehicle including modifying the hulls.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It’s just a bog standard upgrade on a 30 year old hull. There is only production around it because the challenger never received any meaningful updates since it entered service

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It’s just a bog standard upgrade
            It's an entirely new turret, new gun, new sensors and systems, new generation of the existing engine (up to 1500hp), new generation of hydrogas suspension. two new generations of armour pack on the hull and the turret. new APS, entirely new interior.

            The only thing staying is or original internal hull shape, it is impossible to do a more extensive update without having a completely new tank. Thats why it's Challenger 3, not Challenger 2 mk xxx

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't they just buy Abrams or Leopard 2? It l has a German gun and German armor, as well as an American engine. It isn't even a British tank anymore.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tard
    What's this schizo posting I keep seeing in regards to literally every single armored vehicle?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lurk more homosexual

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me how getting emotionally invested in schizoposting will help when every thread about any armor vehicle gets the same replies.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    But why? They're just converting 150 challenger 2s to 3 standard without any ability to procure new hulls.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      to have 150 up to date MBTs rather than 150 MBTs that are slowly getting outdated. If they want to expand their MBT fleet, then yes, the question about new hulls arises, but as of now, it doesn't.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        150 tanks is a very small amount of tanks. Granted the challenger 2 is 2 decades late for an upgrade so it makes sense to throw a little work the industries way. What I won’t do is pretend the challenger 3 is the best tank in the world when it’s just now receiving upgrades to bring them more in line with currently produced tanks

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >150 tanks is a very small amount of tanks.
          true, but the UK doesn't focus on land forces. It's better than nothing.
          >What I won’t do is pretend the challenger 3 is the best tank in the world
          it's on par with other modern western tanks, making it (among) the best.

          we're currently seeing 50+ year old T-55s and Leo 1s being used in Ukraine, so I don't see why anyone would think upgrading current MBTs would be a bad idea.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not having at least a low rate production of new hulls going to be able to scale up in case it's needed seems silly
        Especially since the world is now slowly heating up again

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Island Nation
          >Nuclear era
          Bruh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >They're just converting 150 challenger 2s to 3 standard without any ability to procure new hulls.
      Wouldn't the inability to restock their tank fleet absolutely rape them in a real war?
      I'd rather have a bad tank I cab replace than a good tank I will never have more than 150 of with no way to restock.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nuclear era. Countries with nukes dont get into real wars.
        >U... Ukraine
        Ukraine doesnt have nukes, hence they are in a real war. British army is a projectile fired by the Royal Navy and its intended target are thirdies whom have forgotten themselves.

        To put it differently, there isnt anyone out there who is going to kill more than 20 or 30 British tanks. In this regard, the new British ORBAT is brutally pragmatic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Countries with nukes dont get into real wars
          Actually, Europe is coming round to the spectre of a conventional war now because nobody is willing to pull the nuclear trigger first.

          The Cold War HAS gone hot; the British, French and German top brass all made very public statements over the past couple of months to the effect, because the unthinkable has happened: Russia has shown itself to be willing to wage conventional war despite the massive numbers of casualties they're taking
          The post-Airland Battle deterrence which NATO offered Russia, and which broke the Soviet Union, was that even if a nuclear exchange was off the table, superior NATO tech and smart weapons would inflict totally disproportionate losses on the Red Army and probably destroy it
          However, in the past 2 years, the Russian Army has indeed taken massive casualties, with KIA and WIA amounting to literally the entire top 3 European armies put together, and at least three times more tanks than the top 5 European armies field... and they're STILL COMING

          >They're just converting 150 challenger 2s to 3 standard without any ability to procure new hulls.
          Wouldn't the inability to restock their tank fleet absolutely rape them in a real war?
          I'd rather have a bad tank I cab replace than a good tank I will never have more than 150 of with no way to restock.

          The British Army's NATO commitment is one tank battalion of about 50 tanks available at all times. Italy has the same commitment, and thus a similar number of Arietes. Germany and France, as the land-based powerhouses of West Europe, each intend to field two battalions of about 100 tanks in war, one battalion of 50 tanks in peacetime, so they have slightly larger tank fleets of about 200-plus tanks each

          Growing the armies beyond this size will require more voter commitment, however

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so have the Swedish and the balts and the Norwegians and the fins

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >a slightly wider and longer turret which could also be fitted to other MBTs as part of an upgrade package
    Probably what will happen in the long term. Make a modern turret with modular Epsom armour and fighting systems that will be good for 30+ years
    Stick it on an American/German/Korean whatever hull in 10-15 years time and apply British-made Farnham armour kits to that.

    Vickers and Marconi (both now BAE) were keen on universal turrets in the 1990s with the Marksman SPAA and the turret that was on the Mk.7 MBT (Leopard hull) and EE-T1 Osório

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What's with the massive cutout in the turret armour above the driver's hatch on Leopard 2A5/6/7?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No such cutout exists. Only on the challenger 2 hull

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sad that you'd believe such things

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fugly tank
    will still be shit A-10 strafe bait

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >why can't bongs make good tanks?
    something we have all been asking ourselves since they claim to have invented them (really it was the french)

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    “The Challenger 3 program will deliver the best tank in NATO ... and deliver a network enabled, digital main battle tank, providing the soldier with a step changing capability," said Rory Breen, strategy and future business director at RBSL.

    “What we do for a prototype is take a bare chassis and trade about 50 percent of the LRU’s (Line Replaceable Units) … and everything else, except the turret ring, is brand new,” said Breen.

    Please forget that the contract is to use the existing hulls

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's just marketing speech, every businessman does it. It might not be *the* best tank in NATO, but it will be adequate for the near future.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the contract is to use the existing hulls
      same goes for all Abrams production for the past thirty years, moron

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >still trying to sell this moronic meme
    You get more success if it wasn't so artificial and forced

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >don’t believe your lying eyes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >AAHHHHHHHHHH STOP POINTING OUT THE HUGE FRICKING CUT OUT OF THE ARMOR AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
      Your insecurities are showing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Your insecurities are showing
        Well if that isn't the pot calling the kettle a Black person, I don't know what is.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    adequate for the 1990s maybe

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What’s with the spamming/flooding the board all because the challenger is finally getting an upgrade. These aren’t new production tanks for fricks sake.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP is seething that the first post with most replies about the challenger 3 called it frick ugly
      because it is frick ugly

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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tripgay OP has started making doubles of every warriortard thread. Why? I don't know, it won't stop them being shit up beyond all recognition by him.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        which is funny because I'm the OP of the last thread and this OP is schizo malding about some boogeyman that lives rent free
        I actually like UK tech but this thing is frick ugly

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It was made by that delouser trip. He’s a known spammer

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where's the cope cage?
    Even Challenger 2 has a cope cage

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Crazy to think that tank has probably been in Bosnia and Iraq at some point.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >already falseflagging
    It's all so tiresome.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I view somebody having an opinion that I don't agree with on the internet on an anime imageboard as a threat to free thought
    1. you're sad as all hell
    2. sounds more like you just want to censor anything you don't agree with

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This guy honestly thinks he’s some type of avenger protecting /k/ from the big meanie

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    MoD/RBSL published some medium res but clearer images of what was shown at IAV

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/eWduXvn.png

      Thanks.

      OP is seething that the first post with most replies about the challenger 3 called it frick ugly
      because it is frick ugly
      [...]
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      [...]

      Didn't even read it. Making this thread took 1 minute.

    • 1 month ago
      delouser

      Linkedin copies of some pics are larger by pixel count (2048 long). Lower filesize.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like if an Abrams and K2 had a kid

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Still using the shit 7.62 chain gun
      What should they replace it with?

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes let’s discuss a minor tank upgrade for the third thread in a row

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >finally unfrick the gun
    >still store ammo inside the hull
    great upgrade you have there

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >still store ammo inside the hull
      You're just making shit up now.
      It's a new turret, has blowout panels. It's not a modified Challenger 2 turret like the previous demonstrator was

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Considering there are only 4-6 photos that have been cleared for public release and they're all from the front of the tank: No

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And get you can say with much confidence that they have them? Remember the abrams is the only tank in the world to not store ammo with the crew

  23. 1 month ago
    delouser

    [...]

    I forgot it. Like I've said before, the trip is reserved for pest control. I don't use it for any other purpose.

    This is my third post ITT. I am

    https://i.imgur.com/9D9ZACf.jpg

    The non-tard thread for you, gents. Note that the tard used an old photo, because he is very stupid.

    IAV 2024 — The German-UK joint venture Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land (RBSL) has shared imagery of a first British Army Challenger 3 Main Battle Tank (MBT) prototype, after completing the build of the new vehicle at its Telford, England, production facility.

    There will be a total of eight prototypes of the Challenger 3 to enable a wide range of trials to be undertaken, followed by Low-Rate Initial Production (LRIP) and Full-Rate Production (FRP).

    Images of Challenger 3 P1 show that it has a slightly wider and longer turret which could also be fitted to other MBTs as part of an upgrade package.

    https://shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/first-challenger-3-rolled-out
    https://breakingdefense.com/2024/01/revealed-first-look-at-uk-challenger-3-main-battle-tank-prototype

    [...]
    Thanks.

    [...]
    Didn't even read it. Making this thread took 1 minute.

    (this post)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you spam threads? What’s the reading behind it? Why did you drop your aaa handle

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >why do you make non-shitposting versions of crappy threads made by a schizo?
        Nta, but wtf is your problem?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Nta
          Yes you are lmao

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    Post discarded. You sound like said schizo, just saying.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You mean like you replied twice to the same post, schizo?

    [...]

    >Nta
    Yes you are lmao

    You'll never stop being a lolcow, warriortard. You are too schizo for letting this ever happen.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I like how you never learned to just shut up, i like how you already forgot how you were supposed to be impersonating two posters, i like how i will get a reply to this post.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The fartsniffer's thread got deleted so he's now trying to derail this one
    Sad!

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The first reply to my post's the fartsniffer
    Sadder!

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Nooo you've just got to let morons shitfling ad infinitum
    I guess that when a hobo shits on your lawn you don't make the moron clean it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you do realize your the 2nd hobo on my lawn, you dont clean up shit, you only make threads worse + you have some form of autist with the fart obession

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Reading comprehension
        Damn.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My point still stand, your a cancer worse that threadmaker and armatard or su57 tard

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Making shit up
            damn

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              how am i making shit up

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking hate those tumour shaped fume extractors

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's either those or the frog compressed air system.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not a big tank guy and I kinda like the Chally 2 but this "seam" at the front looks like a really bad idea? Wouldn't this create a weak point in the front armor? Anyone that knows what their talking about able to explain?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the whole purpose of this post is to artificially rail the discussion to the latest obsession of mine
      >don't you worry, i have a reply to it readily at hand!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      From my ability to read comments on PrepHole I have deduced a couple of explanations
      1: it's a bare hull and that shit won't be exposed when it's had the mandatory armour upgrades
      2: Challenger has always focused on big beefy turrets because anything that low being exposed to enemy fire is against doctrine
      But I have no fricking clue tbh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s a known weak point. Ukraine is covering them up
      https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-modifying-challenger-2-tanks-to-address-weakness-report-2023-9?amp

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s going to be hard for the challenger 2 damage control squad to refute this article and what it means for the challenger 2 hull

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's okay, the article still says it's a better tank than Leopard

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s going to be hard for the challenger 2 damage control squad to refute this article and what it means for the challenger 2 hull

        Only 1 has been destroyed and the article calls Forbes "Frobes", so I suspect the article is somewhat shit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          1 tank is still 1 tank, and that’s a lot considering the challenger isn’t exactly the lynchpin of ukranian operations. Show me a single video of the challenger being used to any effect on Ukraine

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            show me a single video of this weak point getting hit by Russians

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              show me a video of a javelin killing a tank with a cope cage with a top down attack. this is such a non argument all we do on here is discuss heresay, not him but again your fricking threads up, youre a cancer

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >w…we only lost 7% of the tanks in country without participating in a single successful engagement

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >UK delivers tanks without the usual add-on armor
        >Ukraine adds on their own armor
        >STOP THE PRESSES
        it's like complaining Ukrainian Bradleys don't have blue force tracker

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        here they come to screech about how it's not a cut-out and that your eyes are lying

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the article specifically notes that the 'weak point' is uparmoured in deployed british challenger units but that the armour package as not supplied to ukraine, it also notes that the leo 2 is not as good on a one to one basis but we wont mention that part will we.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >leo 2 is not as good on a one to one basis but we wont mention that part will we

          The Greeks answered this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And the Ukranians disagree.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The top part is just a splash screen to deflect water/mud
      The bottom row is part of the mounting system for engineering equipment and up-armour kits

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >seam
      it's not a problem, every tank has it

      From my ability to read comments on PrepHole I have deduced a couple of explanations
      1: it's a bare hull and that shit won't be exposed when it's had the mandatory armour upgrades
      2: Challenger has always focused on big beefy turrets because anything that low being exposed to enemy fire is against doctrine
      But I have no fricking clue tbh

      >I have no fricking clue
      before your time maybe, only us Cold War fanboys would remember details like that
      >1 and 2
      both true, however that's not what the picture was highlighting
      anon was going after the join in the lower and upper front plates

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think that's just a mounting bracket for the addon armor packs

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >weak point

    >its the front

    the brits have done it again folks

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Warriortard really didn't like how this threads was going.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      my headcanon's that he's just autistic to a point that he's angry at reality for not being anti-anglo enough, any show of competence from them is heresy for him

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      have some introspection, its you who is constanly fricking up every thread, not just threadtard his threads, please turn off your computer.

  34. 1 month ago
    delouser

    Discuss: The relative merits of rifled and smoothbore tank guns.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm gonna miss the rifled gun, it's pretty kino but unfortunately self stabilizing ammunition and not having to use the frickawful 2 part ammo should give the smoothbore a solid leg up over it's more stylish cousin.
      I'll be sad if I never see a rifled gun HESH a russian mobik or vehicle into red mist though.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Half German
    Well at least it will sort of decent compared to what the bongs will shit out

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Seems to trace back to this tripcode

    Discuss: The relative merits of rifled and smoothbore tank guns.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >samegayging turbo autist assumes everyone does the same thing as him

  38. 1 month ago
    delouser

    [...]

    [...]

    What's hard for you to understand about this, tard? You made another slide thread about the challenger. I brought the discussion prompt here. This thread does not exist to push my opinions on british armored vehicles. Like most other users, I can't be fricked to think much about them at all. This thread exists to sequester you in the threads of others while offering a detour to those who would otherwise be baited into replying to your threads.

    I am here to elevate discussion quality and, as a happy little side effect, break you and your kind on the wheel. I am deleting your ego. You cannot prevent this. But enough about me. Like I said, this thread is not about me. It's about weapons. Problem? Too bad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for the wall of cringe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Please tell me you see the irony in creating a trip just to post about one guy and then claiming to delete his ego.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        see

        [...]

        >have a tripcode: twist one way
        >don't have a tripcode: twist the other
        only disingenuous homosexuals do this

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This might be one of the most moronic posts I've seen on /k/. The amount of historical illiteracy contained within so few words is actually impressive.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No, I think OP is an insufferable homosexual who's duplication of your threads achieves absolutely nothing. I'm just remarking on the irony of YOU complaining about him self-bumping to keep his thread alive.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Not British. Why is it important to you that they be "upset"?

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >have a great tank
    >make a new one
    >have a shit IFV
    >keep it

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It looks like some T-72 or T-80 or something like that, wtf??? Awful design.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What an ugly tank, bong moment

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It looks old rather than ugly.

  45. 1 month ago
    delouser

    RBSL has followed up today with a joint supply chain map for Boxer and Challenger 3.
    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rbsl_boxer-and-challenger-supplier-map-activity-7155853182353424385-cRmL

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/QsQjzrA.jpg

      Linkedin copies of some pics are larger by pixel count (2048 long). Lower filesize.

      https://i.imgur.com/WBFynvO.jpg

      Why are you bumping your own thread like this? Do you need attention?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He didn't hide it, he doesn't do it too often and he actually posts something informative which is kinda a big plus compared to the "competion". You know who i'm talking about.

        • 1 month ago
          delouser

          Just tying things off with the rest of the media. They took a day to add stuff like the vendor list in

          https://i.imgur.com/JRCdA2P.jpg

          RBSL has followed up today with a joint supply chain map for Boxer and Challenger 3.
          https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rbsl_boxer-and-challenger-supplier-map-activity-7155853182353424385-cRmL

          . The tard is upset because he wants the thread to expire. There's no credible complaint to be made over adding the new stuff to the thread about the new stuff, obviously. This looks to be the end of it, at any rate.

          For comparison and posterity, here are the infographics from 2021. And for one last giggle, check out this channel's thumbnails. https://youtu.be/wnDITaOl--U

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/DWctLAv.jpg

            The other official one.

            thanks mate

            >wide area search and assisted target detection
            bloody hell

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The tard is upset because he wants the thread to expire.
            Quality is the biggest threat to his insubstantial copy paste shitposting and circling around the same topic for a quadrillion time. I'm pretty sure the mods are currently on the lookout for his threads, so he's damned to make whining and implying posts and pathetic false flag posts.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  47. 1 month ago
    delouser

    A sampling of things that are also Challenger 3, according to GPT farms that now dominate image search (they generate slop with larger dimensions than the real press release photos).

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its optics look worried

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The best tank in the world is also the best looking tank.
    God's will.

  50. 1 month ago
    delouser

    The other official one.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The German-UK joint venture
    Have the brits finally learned their lesson?

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