Are you aware that those fire rings are intended to contain the fire, and therefor prevent accidents that cause severe damage to the local ecology? Next time, don't overload the fire, and don't burn deadfall, as that is naturally decomposing biomass that needs to stay on the ground in order for a proper nutrient cycle to occur.
not gonna go as far as saying not to burn deadfall, OP is a complete oxygen thief no doubht, but burning some brances, yea, logs like in his negative IQ log fire? yea thats ... something else
According to the majority of FMPs that Ive had to read for work, deadfall burning is a major issue in parks like the one he is probably visiting (cleared, flattened campsite with a forest ring) mind you I do understand that it is a destroyed environment by it's very nature, as massive areas with cut out roads and campsites aren't natural but it would be nice if we could keep it as close to as natural as possible while still allowing people to visit it. Unfortunately it is often an uphill battle as the majority of parks simply cannot maintain that level of conservation.
Your Greenies are insufferable
The environment is FINE
Also, >imagine telling people, especially on PrepHole, to not burn wood
Absolutely brain-dead activity
>>The environment is FINE >inb4: >>but muh social media has been telling me...!!1111
Prettymuch this
I've noticed shitlibs arguing shitty arguments much more lately... Not sure why... Is it because Trump is in the news again?
>>The environment is FINE >inb4: >>but muh social media has been telling me...!!1111
Prettymuch this
I've noticed shitlibs arguing shitty arguments much more lately... Not sure why... Is it because Trump is in the news again?
Being wasteful is a hallmark of low IQ. I have a low trash footprint because I'm not a moronic consooomer. If we actually cared about the environment we'd take over congo and the Amazon to prevent brown people from cutting it all down then we'd nuke china and India for literally shitting up the ocean.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I'm not a moronic consooomer.
you are greencuck, you are the ultimate consooomer, your entire belief system exists to sell expensive crap to ennui riddled dumbfricks by offering the chance to pretend to not be a selfish aimless butthole.
It doesn't matter that he's burning wood, it matters where he is getting it from, wood cut for firewood is taken from woodlots that are actively managed and grown for the purpose of being firewood, if everyone took firewood from in and around the same campsites for years and years, the local ecology would be damaged, herbaceous plants would be damaged or killed off, nutrients would be removed from the soil, and the natural order of how stuff works would be destroyed.
>>The environment is FINE >inb4: >>but muh social media has been telling me...!!1111
Prettymuch this
I've noticed shitlibs arguing shitty arguments much more lately... Not sure why... Is it because Trump is in the news again?
Im not political and never have been, I've never voted because I don't care frankly.
>Just buy firewood
Knew there was israeliteery somewhere
1 year ago
Anonymous
Or, here's the alternate option that literally is written into every FMP ever, you get up, and go to a free firewood collection site that is clearly marked out specifically for you and everyone else who wants free firewood, and go there.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Fmp, free wood
Explain what fmp is
1 year ago
Anonymous
Forest management plan, its what every government does for literally all the forest in the entire world, well, most modern first world countries.
In this explanation I'm gonna use the Michigan example but you can apply this to most states. https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/managing-resources/forestry/management/region
So this is a detailed document that is basically made up of every company's management plan for the next 5 - 10yrs. It outlines everything, from where they're gonna cut wood, where they're gonna prep to plant, where they're gonna plant, where they are leaving shit to protect wildlife, etc etc etc. These have been a thing since I think like the 1960s (?) ish roughly, and they're pretty fricking swag cause they are freely available information for literally everyone but no granola crunching hemp wearing bongo bashing hippie knows they exist so they think all forest management is evil companies clearcutting and shit. These documents are like a fricking bible and I don't know how it works for other states but the michigan one is huge because if you frick up and dont follow the mangement plan you can get into serious trouble.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ty for the info
But campers burning wood near campsites isn't an ecological risk
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you don't see how that can become an issue incredibly quickly, I'm gonna assume that you are so dumb that there's no point in me trying to explain it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Fricking statists
Bet you claim you're not religious aswell
1 year ago
Anonymous
A part of the FMP, the one that is most significant to you, is free wood collection areas, which are typically located near rural roadsides and are intended for use by the community and are allotted areas where a Forestry Technician (Like me :3) goes there and goes "yeup, this here is good wood" and then alots however much to the community (usually a few acres) and its basically the way to get people to remove stuff from the roadside for whatever reason, like maybe theres potential for bug infestations or disease to grow and fester there and they don't want it, but you don't care and shouldn't care about that, it's free wood
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ima keep it a buck with you, the reason alot of hippies and shit don't look at FMPs is because 75% of it is intended for government or commercial use as legal documentation so you really gotta dig for info relevant to you.
My suggestion is look at the table of contents for your region and see if there's a community section. Also keep in mind that your state might not alot firewood collection sites but if they don't do that, go to your local ministry authority and ask if it would be possible for you to go to thrashing piles and collect wood from there, basically all the garbage off the tree like limbs and branches that they cant use at lumber mills get left in the woods in big piles and some places offer the ability to take them for like a fee of liek 20$ for a lifetime license or if you don't live near a logging site, go to a lumber mill and ask if they have a reject pile you can sift through for free firewood (keep only untreated lumber as copper arcenic is not good for your lungs)
Your Greenies are insufferable
The environment is FINE
Also, >imagine telling people, especially on PrepHole, to not burn wood
Absolutely brain-dead activity
I love fights like this between homosexuals that only camp at campgrounds and guys that just walk into their local BLM forest.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This. I travel at least two states away every time I want to camp because going anywhere convenient is for losers.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I love fights like this between homosexuals that only camp at campgrounds and guys that just walk into their local BLM forest.
I'm the guy building the fires, and this is on Canada.
Our local firefighters just razed a whole bunch of ground in town, I'm going to grab pictures for this greenie
Hey, moron, most of the west coast forests have burn bans year round for most of the parks because you idiotic frick faces can't even keep your dogs off no pet trails so you certainly aren't to be trusted with fire near 1000 year old trees.
>Fricking ecologists will tell you that walking off trail and camping anywhere other than designated camp sites is a major issue.
They don't even want you to live
That's their end goal
No /s
>But if everyone walked off trail and camped wherever they wanted we'd have nothing left of nature.
Imagine believing this
Do you know what humans did for 99% of their existence?
Honestly, and this is an odd thing to ask, especially here, but do you get / out/?
1 year ago
Anonymous
We're not cavemen anymore, and there's seven billion of us. Yes I get PrepHole and I follow the rules which are in place to protect the environment.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the rules which are in place to protect the environmentalists' jobs
FTFY
>Are you aware that those fire rings are intended to contain the fire, and therefor prevent accidents that cause severe damage to the local ecology?
Have you never seen a bulldozer clear and acre of land, shove it next to the bordering forest, then burned? Protip, the forest doesn't magically ignite!
>Next time, don't overload the fire, and don't burn deadfall, as that is naturally decomposing biomass that needs to stay on the ground in order for a proper nutrient cycle to occur.
Even more brain-dead then your previous comment
They're electrician pants I've just folded the bottom parts up cus it's too long for me.
I hope there are still some embers left I just woke up and might throw some more on there.
once i have managed to start a forest fire during midwinter when during a skiing trip i made a camprife under fallen tree and had my meal there, i buried it under half a meter of snow after
next week when i came by the same place again the whole 4x4 meter root wall was burned away during my absence, luckily there was still over 1 meter of snow around
no not an actual forest fire i meant the big tree roots went up in flames
it was like pic related and when i came back there was nothing left but the trunk and large areas around were melted and burned
i learned my lesson
Most of the Western forests have been burned and intensively logged at some point.
Penny wise and pound foolish to worry about campfires.
You take the shit with the sugar, there are endless areas here in the Sierra that have been improved by wildfire.
Does anyone doubt that? I have examples.
sad state i swear
I love fire
Burning green gives such a good smell
Are you aware that those fire rings are intended to contain the fire, and therefor prevent accidents that cause severe damage to the local ecology? Next time, don't overload the fire, and don't burn deadfall, as that is naturally decomposing biomass that needs to stay on the ground in order for a proper nutrient cycle to occur.
not gonna go as far as saying not to burn deadfall, OP is a complete oxygen thief no doubht, but burning some brances, yea, logs like in his negative IQ log fire? yea thats ... something else
Go be a Karen elsewhere
According to the majority of FMPs that Ive had to read for work, deadfall burning is a major issue in parks like the one he is probably visiting (cleared, flattened campsite with a forest ring) mind you I do understand that it is a destroyed environment by it's very nature, as massive areas with cut out roads and campsites aren't natural but it would be nice if we could keep it as close to as natural as possible while still allowing people to visit it. Unfortunately it is often an uphill battle as the majority of parks simply cannot maintain that level of conservation.
Your Greenies are insufferable
The environment is FINE
Also,
>imagine telling people, especially on PrepHole, to not burn wood
Absolutely brain-dead activity
>The environment is FINE
inb4:
>but muh social media has been telling me...!!1111
>>The environment is FINE
>inb4:
>>but muh social media has been telling me...!!1111
Prettymuch this
I've noticed shitlibs arguing shitty arguments much more lately... Not sure why... Is it because Trump is in the news again?
Being wasteful is a hallmark of low IQ. I have a low trash footprint because I'm not a moronic consooomer. If we actually cared about the environment we'd take over congo and the Amazon to prevent brown people from cutting it all down then we'd nuke china and India for literally shitting up the ocean.
>I'm not a moronic consooomer.
you are greencuck, you are the ultimate consooomer, your entire belief system exists to sell expensive crap to ennui riddled dumbfricks by offering the chance to pretend to not be a selfish aimless butthole.
It doesn't matter that he's burning wood, it matters where he is getting it from, wood cut for firewood is taken from woodlots that are actively managed and grown for the purpose of being firewood, if everyone took firewood from in and around the same campsites for years and years, the local ecology would be damaged, herbaceous plants would be damaged or killed off, nutrients would be removed from the soil, and the natural order of how stuff works would be destroyed.
Im not political and never have been, I've never voted because I don't care frankly.
>Just buy firewood
Knew there was israeliteery somewhere
Or, here's the alternate option that literally is written into every FMP ever, you get up, and go to a free firewood collection site that is clearly marked out specifically for you and everyone else who wants free firewood, and go there.
>Fmp, free wood
Explain what fmp is
Forest management plan, its what every government does for literally all the forest in the entire world, well, most modern first world countries.
In this explanation I'm gonna use the Michigan example but you can apply this to most states. https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/managing-resources/forestry/management/region
So this is a detailed document that is basically made up of every company's management plan for the next 5 - 10yrs. It outlines everything, from where they're gonna cut wood, where they're gonna prep to plant, where they're gonna plant, where they are leaving shit to protect wildlife, etc etc etc. These have been a thing since I think like the 1960s (?) ish roughly, and they're pretty fricking swag cause they are freely available information for literally everyone but no granola crunching hemp wearing bongo bashing hippie knows they exist so they think all forest management is evil companies clearcutting and shit. These documents are like a fricking bible and I don't know how it works for other states but the michigan one is huge because if you frick up and dont follow the mangement plan you can get into serious trouble.
Ty for the info
But campers burning wood near campsites isn't an ecological risk
If you don't see how that can become an issue incredibly quickly, I'm gonna assume that you are so dumb that there's no point in me trying to explain it.
Fricking statists
Bet you claim you're not religious aswell
A part of the FMP, the one that is most significant to you, is free wood collection areas, which are typically located near rural roadsides and are intended for use by the community and are allotted areas where a Forestry Technician (Like me :3) goes there and goes "yeup, this here is good wood" and then alots however much to the community (usually a few acres) and its basically the way to get people to remove stuff from the roadside for whatever reason, like maybe theres potential for bug infestations or disease to grow and fester there and they don't want it, but you don't care and shouldn't care about that, it's free wood
Ima keep it a buck with you, the reason alot of hippies and shit don't look at FMPs is because 75% of it is intended for government or commercial use as legal documentation so you really gotta dig for info relevant to you.
My suggestion is look at the table of contents for your region and see if there's a community section. Also keep in mind that your state might not alot firewood collection sites but if they don't do that, go to your local ministry authority and ask if it would be possible for you to go to thrashing piles and collect wood from there, basically all the garbage off the tree like limbs and branches that they cant use at lumber mills get left in the woods in big piles and some places offer the ability to take them for like a fee of liek 20$ for a lifetime license or if you don't live near a logging site, go to a lumber mill and ask if they have a reject pile you can sift through for free firewood (keep only untreated lumber as copper arcenic is not good for your lungs)
I love fights like this between homosexuals that only camp at campgrounds and guys that just walk into their local BLM forest.
This. I travel at least two states away every time I want to camp because going anywhere convenient is for losers.
>I love fights like this between homosexuals that only camp at campgrounds and guys that just walk into their local BLM forest.
I'm the guy building the fires, and this is on Canada.
Our local firefighters just razed a whole bunch of ground in town, I'm going to grab pictures for this greenie
Hey, moron, most of the west coast forests have burn bans year round for most of the parks because you idiotic frick faces can't even keep your dogs off no pet trails so you certainly aren't to be trusted with fire near 1000 year old trees.
Wood burns
Why do you think there are more 100 year old trees than 1000 year old trees? Food for thought
Fricking ecologists will tell you that walking off trail and camping anywhere other than designated camp sites is a major issue.
>Fricking ecologists will tell you that walking off trail and camping anywhere other than designated camp sites is a major issue.
They don't even want you to live
That's their end goal
No /s
But if everyone walked off trail and camped wherever they wanted we'd have nothing left of nature.
>But if everyone walked off trail and camped wherever they wanted we'd have nothing left of nature.
Imagine believing this
Do you know what humans did for 99% of their existence?
Honestly, and this is an odd thing to ask, especially here, but do you get / out/?
We're not cavemen anymore, and there's seven billion of us. Yes I get PrepHole and I follow the rules which are in place to protect the environment.
>the rules which are in place to protect the environmentalists' jobs
FTFY
>Are you aware that those fire rings are intended to contain the fire, and therefor prevent accidents that cause severe damage to the local ecology?
Have you never seen a bulldozer clear and acre of land, shove it next to the bordering forest, then burned? Protip, the forest doesn't magically ignite!
>Next time, don't overload the fire, and don't burn deadfall, as that is naturally decomposing biomass that needs to stay on the ground in order for a proper nutrient cycle to occur.
Even more brain-dead then your previous comment
I have no idea what this has to do with overloaded fire pits, you are rambling.
Back to plebbit
> and don't burn deadfall
Guess I’ll just chop down a tree then :^)
>> and don't burn deadfall
>Guess I’ll just chop down a tree then :^)
Best to burn spruce, even when green they burn like crazy
The frick you gonna burn then? Tires?
>The frick you gonna burn then? Tires?
Green tards are making me want to do this as a hobby
had a fire at the cabin
Did uhh.. did you burn the cabin down anon
nope. just burnin an old outhouse amongst other things
how'd it smell
I love big fires!
Burn baby burn
Nice. Gonna cook some tasty animal critters over that fire?
The real enironmental blackpill is knowing it doesnt matter what we do because it's already too late
Radical action was needed a century ago
Glad to be rid of this shit.
I'm gonna make it look nice around here and raise the old stone wall.
Peak comfy
Nerdy shorts, though
Do they have detachable lower legs?
They're electrician pants I've just folded the bottom parts up cus it's too long for me.
I hope there are still some embers left I just woke up and might throw some more on there.
>They're electrician pants
Just say nerd pants
This fire was made with the finest 1000 year old trees.
>This fire was made with the finest 1000 year old trees.
But did they house any endangered birds?
There are "people" here who will unironically complain about burning non-government approved deadfall.
once i have managed to start a forest fire during midwinter when during a skiing trip i made a camprife under fallen tree and had my meal there, i buried it under half a meter of snow after
next week when i came by the same place again the whole 4x4 meter root wall was burned away during my absence, luckily there was still over 1 meter of snow around
1 meter high?
yes it was a really big tree next to a logging site thats why the wind felled it and yes we have over 1 meter of snow here
i learned my lesson
I don't think there's much risk of runaway fires, in the winter, in otherwise healthy forest
no not an actual forest fire i meant the big tree roots went up in flames
it was like pic related and when i came back there was nothing left but the trunk and large areas around were melted and burned
i learned my lesson
You should have burned it.
The air needs carbon.
The soil needs ash.
Most of the Western forests have been burned and intensively logged at some point.
Penny wise and pound foolish to worry about campfires.
You take the shit with the sugar, there are endless areas here in the Sierra that have been improved by wildfire.
Does anyone doubt that? I have examples.
Got the grill's number?