since i often see it among the pile of gears in edc breads
does anyone actually use these things regularly? or is it just someting that you throw in your pack "just because"? what kind of stuffs did you wrote in there?
field notes
since i often see it among the pile of gears in edc breads
does anyone actually use these things regularly? or is it just someting that you throw in your pack "just because"? what kind of stuffs did you wrote in there?
obligatory 3 images to start a thread i guess
Neat.
one more
I wish I could draw.
I can’t really draw either, but I bought one and bring it with me when I go hunting. I use it for notes on if I saw any game, conditions, etc. And I practice drawing using the animals I can’t hunt. Get a felt pen in my opinion it makes it easier to sketch.
Why the frick would I draw anything when I carry a 50 megapixel camera everywhere?
Because no one cares about your lame pictures, shallow comprehension of the world around you and superficial approach to observing nature.
but people are really going to love your doodles
>No one is impressed by your art
Yes, you missed the point completely:
I don't take notes to show off to other people. I take notes to remind myself of important information and to help commit that information to memory.
My sketches are very understandable to people studying botany. Note-takers don't do it to share with the general public they do it to collect their thoughts.
Tl;dr
lol
tl;dr
Note takers take notes for themselves usually for education or personal growth
Picture takers are looking for attention
If I see a cool plant or mushroom, I take a picture to show to frens so they'll want to go innawoods
People that don't PrepHole won't PrepHole just because you think a mushroom looks cool. Those people are humoring you anon.
>I don't take notes to show off to other people
>makes a thread to do exactly that
I didn't make the thread. Feel bad about making assumptions; being wrong and saying foolish things.
>heckin wholesome sketches tho!!!
Yes.
for drawgays its about practice of drawing things accurately as they exist naturally, not about just getting the image
When I was learning plant identification sketching plants helped me memorize features much more effectively than just looking at pictures ever would have. As a bonus going back to look at old drawings reinforces the learning--Even book diagrams are better than cellphone photos.
The best way to learn plants is to pick a few you don't know. Sdeing the real thing drills it in. Take pieces home and try to ID them using keys.
Also- the hard part of IDing plants (other than trees) is knowing what they look like at all parts of their cycle. It is easy to ID a blooming plant etc. but to ID one when dormant or just sprouting is much different and really the best way to do it is just too see them throughout the course of their cycle in the same location throughout the year and for multiple years.
That's sort of the point of the thread though, asking the notebook-carrying anons what they're using it for when phones exists
Can't speak for anyone else, but my notebook has never forced an update
I have the same. It runs with RealityOS. It feels like real ink when you write.
Well as a technical matter I currently have a pile of write in the rain notebooks in a drawer that have survived notes on my phones over the years. I've had a few phones that bricked and I lost notes on them. I guess if I was better about saving the notes to another device or sending them etc. it wouldn't be a problem but that's always hindsight it seems like.
I still have notebooks from over 20 years ago. I'm glad I still have them as a lot of the information has been scrubbed by the google algorithms.
>as a lot of the information has been scrubbed by the google algorithms.
What esoteric knowledge do you have then?
Physics and math.
Stuff that will never be put on a computer attached to the internet.
Also names and contact information for high ranking military officers with TS security clearance. Many still active.
Also some contacts and notes on conversations I've had with the DoE.
All sorts of good shit.
>Why would you need a notebook when you have a cellphone
Fun fact only low T, low intelligence beta cucks rely on their cellphones for anything... so the fact that you find it incomprehensible that someone would prefer paper to silicon tech just tells me you're in the brain dead zoomer category.
/k/ EDC larpers are prepping to drop everything and run into the woods. The first thing that is going by by in any sort of catastrophic emergency is electricity.
Notebooks are also just faster. I can write notes exponentially faster than some moronic zoomer can thumb type their shorthand ebonics and I don't have to worry about losing all my notes when my cellphone decides to brick after a failed software update.
Relying on technology is just overall an awful idea pushed by beta cucks who can't read a map and have no valuable survival skills.
Nah, you’re just a stuck up poorgay.
Everyone has a phone dude I highly doubt it's a cost issue
I usually carry a notebook with me, not field notes, but generic notebooks in the ISO A7 form factor. I prefer dotted, but grid or just white pages is fine too. Not a fan of lines though.
I structure it similar to the "bullet note" system. I use it for a lot of stuff:
It's a calendar, Todo list, contains lists of stuff like present ideas for friends or diy projects I came up with, a future planner, a diary (I summarize how I feel about each day in a single sentence as a sort of ritual) as well as a reference book for notes I don't want to forget. I dump ideas, creative thoughts etc. in there.
It looks like shit compared to those scrapbook images you see online with cute pictures and everything, but it's for me, not to show others after all. It's well structured and that's all that matters to me.
Basically it's a way to offload shit from my brain so I don't have to bother with it. Be it chores, deadlines, ideas I might forget, reoccurring thought loops I want to get rid of, etc.
I also sometimes write my thoughts out because it helps me organize them. I usually do that digitally but when I am camping or hiking, I prefer paper. The only drawings I have in there are sketches for projects with dimensions and stuff.
I can't speak for other anons, but for me paper is just superior to the phone as a way to formulate and record thoughts. My phone has various software restrictions that force me to conform to them. Paper does no such thing, I can much more freely write on it. The only alternative that would work would be some free form drawing/note app , but those never felt good to me no matter which one I tried. Everything I do with my notebook can technically be done on a phone, but nothing can be done as well. The difference is large enough to me that it's worth carrying an additional thing with me.
For me it's about actually paying attention. You might THINK you are absorbing the details and considering the form when you look at it or review a photo but you really really don't. That's how you gain comprehension, and memory for important shit. It's the difference between understanding something and the experiential equivalent of doom scrolling.
Try it out and I garuntee you will gain an appreciation for it.
Idk why you'd draw pictures in one when keys etc. exist.
You keep one every year to show exactly when certain plants came-in, fruited, had a mast year, bloomed etc., and maybe some basic temp and weather info about frosts rain etc.
It is good to be able to look back and see how plants cycled in certain weather conditions in a particular location, you can learn alot from that. But it takes being in a particular location for numerous years.
I like to bring my little black notebook on PrepHoleings and journal my trip. It's relaxing, and I like larping as an explorer. It's really just for fun though and using a phone is more practical in most cases if my intent is to seriously document something
>Using a phone is more practical
For what?
I've yet to meet a phone cuck that had basic navigation skills...hell, I have yet to meet a phone cuck that has any practical skills at all.
I'm talking about for documentation, so of course pictures on a phone are going to be better than sketching on paper, and then you might as well take any notes on the phone too since you already have it, and that eliminates the need to carry a notebook.
>Pictures on a phone are better than sketching and putting notes on your sketch
You're moronic--this is botany/nature not a structural engineering inspection or you looking for views on Instagram.
I can write notes exponentially faster than you can thumb-type and usually my sketches are to highlight key features on something very small or to draw site maps which even with a drone would be less beneficial than a hand sketch.
idk bro. sure a pictures are the most accurate way to capture the things you find but drawing and describing something forces you to stop and take time to study and appreciate what you find in the moment. you're looking at something, keeping an eye out for little details, noticing how it's different from the last time you saw it, etc. with a phone camera you're just pointing your phone at it for a few seconds, usually looking at a screen you can barely see because it's so bright out, then taking a few pictures that you might look at for a few minutes when you get home. it's completely different imo. a journal helps you appreciate the things you find a little deeper, and in a more personal way. it's a feeling that's hard to replicate with a phone camera. your experience isn't made better through efficiency amd accuracy.
i use a moleskine fieldnotes type thingie on construction sites to write shit down i need the next day and what else there is to do so i don't forget to load it on a car or when you measure a house. I got a colleague who swears by some shitty app which i tried but it does not work fast enough and.doesnt work with no internet. Also getting my notebook out and a pencil that I always have on hand takes me two seconds. Getting my phone out, typing in my passcode, searching the app ans then typing on this god awful keyboard takes ages. Only use my.phone for calls and taking work related photos. Other than that its useless.
too large. i like the a7 rhodias
These go hard, I use them when i go overseas to learn languages
I use for notations on what I can do better on the next time I'm trekking.
yeah man
There's no such thing as "too much food" dumdum
based all caps writer
bad news bros
>double jointed thumb
My sympathies
based and agreed
Is that an Aurelius quote?
yes it is. good catch fellow stoic. That is written first page of my notebook that I write my gear lists, day plans. and jerky recipes in.
Got any good jerky recipes? I’ve been wondering if squirrel jerky would be good.
is it because you're always trying to find faults in people?
If being israeli is considered a fault in your book then yes, that's a priority person for me to avoid.
naturally
you would need many many squirrel to make it worth your time. my batches are usually between 5-10 lbs
Half of mine are just drunk rambling pissed off about something or self affirmations and usually makes me feel good afterwards.
writing/drawing anything while i'm out in the middle of nowhere feels very therapeutic for me and clears my head to clear it up for the people saying "JUST TAKE A PICTURE"
>The rabbi plays the trilogy cards
The most based of blacks don't want to live anywhere near israelites or whites and I completely respect that.
Yes.
I have piles and they are quite valuable and full of things I don't dare put on a computer.
t. Physicist
I've been getting Montana A6 sketchbooks lately because they're cheap and they fit perfectly in the Amazon knockoff pocket organizer I keep my pens and stuff in. Field Notes™ the brand are stupidly overpriced for the most basic notebook possible, they're more hipster than Moleskine because at least Moleskines are actually nice.
based and arthur morgan pilled
People have been drawing on paper way before rdr2 came out, anon. How is this even something you think should be commented on? What went through your three brain cells right then? Besides a little static and some grease
Go easy on him anon. Unironically there are probably a lot of zoomers who have decided to try getting outdoors becuase of videogames. It's nbd that that's his cultural point of reference into this sort of thing
it's called a joke you aids riddled homosexual
>try not to jerk off 8 times
>try not to play on phone the whole time
Only entries I need
Going to get a Muji and use it to sketch things like plants and tree leaves once shit starts growing this year.
i took a gen ed liberal arts class where i had to do this once a week in a city park. Just sit down and sketch nature with an accompanying page of journal writing. it would have been fun if it wasn't for the stress of real classes, and having to suspend my disbelief that there wasn't roads surrounding me on all sides.
Side note, in another journal a classmate claimed to see a fricking 8 point in the park. If you are going to fake it from google, draw a fricking native leaf or something lol
Whats the best way to get into field sketching? what are some things you would sketch on your travels?
I carry a mechanical pencil and notebook to write down bearings and distances covered. I navigate only by map and compass. The book helps me retrace waypoints if lost and I need to head back. I've never used gps and I trek where there is no coverage for my flip phone.
Send a sketch through, I am a land surveyor and this has peaked my curiosity.
How do you measure distance? with steps?
>muh battery
>muh durability
>muh sovl
ENTER https://youtu.be/TXeZ5fNazk8?si=eJMD-gdTy_B7904t
With these e-ink notepads all the usual complaints with digital notebooks has pretty much been rendered moot
>battery life: it doesn't have to render complex colors or even need backlight, so the power consumption is extremely low and the battery can last way longer than your typical outing session. Hook it to a solar panel and it'll last basically forever
>durability/repairability: is relatively low tech, doesn't use terribly complicated components so tech savvy users will probably be able to repair them easily. Hell, some manufacturers even outright provides modular components
>the sovl, the feel, etc: you can add a textured layer like paperlike etc over the screen to make it feels even more like a regular notebook
Papersisters, our response?
>battery life
So the same as a normal kindle
>repairability
Repairability of Kindles is ass, it's basically the same as a modern smartphone. These things are not made to be repaired, they are made to look sleek, be thin and to be thrown away if anything major breaks (to it's credit, things do break less often than on phones)
I don't see the appeal. This is just a normal kindle, except 3-4 times the price, in a metal shell and with the ability to take freehand notes as annotations, same as normal notes, but only within that dumb icon instead of on the actual page. It doesn't replace a notebook at all.
I only do day hikes, so writing stuff down in a thing that doesn't depend on battery power isn't all that useful for me. On the other hand, if I were camping, it'd be way more useful for me to capture thoughts and things. Even more so if I'm sticking around one spot without having to break camp every single day.
On the other hand, my drawing abilities are somewhere around where Ed Emberley expects his readership to start off, so if I see something cool like a tarantula walking across the path, I'm going to whip out my phone and take a short 4K@60 video of the thing instead of trying to draw pic related
>Ed Emberly
Nice