Why are they designing it like this? It's almost like they want drone grenades to get stuck on the roof and project the blast straight down into the crew compartment.
I think its NERA modules (these are very simple, 1 sheet of rubber sandwiched bettwen 2 sheets of thin steel). But NERA required to be angled relatively to attack thus angled set up.
These would stop small shaped charges (lie 40mm grenades or DPCIM bomblets) that are dropped by drones.
Why don't they put a bunch of actual tank armor on top of the tank instead of sheet metal or something like just enough for a javelin to destroy but not effect the tank itself
Yes.
But eventually they'll have so little it'll be hard for Ukriane to find them so they'll actually increase on numbers eventually.
In OPs image they appear to be trying to add thermal armour so they can operate for longer during the thermal barrier crossing between the night and day, the standoff armour is to protect from drone dropped stuff.
>Is that from scratch or upgrades to existing t-72 hulls?
youre thinking of abrams, which havent been produced new since 1994 >pic related
are "new" tanks made by Russia
The frick are you talking about?
Your pic clearly shows old Soviet T-72Bs being refurbished to the B3 standard.
Russia has not produced a cast turret since the last turret casting plant (in Azovstal, yep, in Mariupol closed down in the early 90s).
T-90Ms are probably all new production, and they use welded turrets.
>T-90Ms are probably all new production, and they use welded turrets.
welded?
does this make the tank brown? is this a thirdie tank?
Russian MIC has experienced a massive loss of institutional knowledge in the past 20 years as anybody with IQ over 90 has fled or been sent to gulag.
All these photoshoots also show factory floors with signs of long-term idling. Westerners like to speculate that this is because of "sanctions", but considering the volume of smuggling going in from Europe and China, the most likely cause is lack of workers - even last year, Putinists were berating factory workers for striking due to missing/delayed wages.
>Putinists were berating factory workers for striking due to missing/delayed wages.
bidenista's here threaten that literally everyday, we have entire 'movements' devoted to not working, and getting paid more for it too
I sense subtle vatnik undertones in that post^
im gunna get out my color-wheel, but im pretty sure i know where your post falls
11 months ago
Anonymous
>does this make the tank brown? is this a thirdie tank?
I don't get it. Is this a joke or something?
11 months ago
äää
i interpreted it as a jab at russian build quality by comparison to up-armored technicals
11 months ago
Anonymous
Armatard thinks that he can win argument online by having a nervous breakdown and stringing random sentences out of every insult that has been levied at him.
Don't try to make sense of his outbursts, they were never intended to make sense.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You need a better LLM, anon. This one is 2020 tier.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You need a better LLM, anon. This one is 2020 tier.
are you questioning my LLM?
dont ever talk to me, or my boyfriends LLM ever again
Most current Russian tank "production" is cannibalization of reserves or inoperable units. This is why Russia has been forced to use "naked" T-62s and T-54/55s in front-line combat. Those same hulls pull double duty as artillery pieces now, because they've shot out or lost too many SPGs they cannot replace at an appreciable rate. It's unfortunate for the Putin junta, but they shot their wad trying to make "3 days to Kyiv" a reality and now are steadily losing entrenched territory instead. It's gonna be a grind, though. Even Russians can mass manufacture mines.
>Most current Russian tank "production" is cannibalization of reserves or inoperable units
but enough about the abrams
>now are steadily losing entrenched territory instead.
u/k/ikes have Crimea back, and their taking Russian land?
Russia got invaded and lost land?
ukraine grew in size as a country?
what % of landmass has ukraine grown by?
ill wait
https://i.imgur.com/yiuV3lc.png
Armatard thinks that he can win argument online by having a nervous breakdown and stringing random sentences out of every insult that has been levied at him.
Don't try to make sense of his outbursts, they were never intended to make sense.
>armatard obsessed schizoid is back
oh god just bring back the redditor dogs at this point, even they're more tolerable
>Armatard
NOOOOO not the heckin armatard
warriorttard where are you?
brown hands are allover this thread, benchoding it up!
im fricking sick of all the brownness, sick of it!
it stinks like a curry filled diaper in here
BRING THE REDDITORS BACK!
thats what we need to get rid of the mumbai mafia
>but enough about the abrams
Abrams requires no new production, and has not for some years. You might have a point if the US was forced to rotate M-60s and M-48s to its frontline units, though.
>u/k/ikes have Crimea back, and their taking Russian land?
Per your dictator's decree, the land Ukraine has liberated is Russian. Including Kherson, which I was told would be Russian forever. But less sarcastically, Ukraine has no desire for Russian land, merely to expel Russian invaders.
>Russia got invaded and lost land?
Yes, in Belgorod oblast. Oddly the Chechens you've deployed there keep hiding from combat and the regular army troops are (according to the locals) just looting rather than fighting most of the time.
>ukraine grew in size as a country?
Ukraine has no desire to grow in size, merely reclaim what is rightfully theirs. Despite Russia's attempts to annex them, they're well on their way.
Guess the wedge shapes may be to make the shaped charge grenades detonate pointing away from the roof or something? It's much smaller than the improvised ones though, frick knows why since the size of the cope cage was what really helped when dealing with suicide drones etc.
How much penetration does a top attack missile have? Would not mounting a cage with "GREATEST ERA OF WORLDS STOPS NATO APFSDS" add extra armor up and slow down the penetrator enough to prevent instant cosmonaut promotion?
A factory kit is a step up.
The design is still a joke that makes me question if they actually have any engineers in employ and receive any actual intelligence from the front or just war drone drop compilations on Telegram.
your whatabout is flawed for two obvious reasons: one, obviously you can see that. just image search for it. two, russia had better slat and mesh armor designs (cargo cult imitation of nato implementations) 5-7 years ago than they're installing today.
what makes this thread's topic notable, for the non-1pbtid non-streetshitter anons following along:
at the outset of the 2022 invasion, cope cage designs were not professionally designed or fabricated – various military units just welded shit up and hoped for the best, with a wide variety of cages as a result.
whereas now we're seeing a factory-direct cage at omsktransmash, and that cage STILL seems to completely ignore what the russian MIC already knows about how to make half-decent slat armor.
https://i.imgur.com/8sDkQd1.jpg
Unironically cope cages would have saved this Leo from an FPV.
that leo is not destroyed. you're also looking at damage directly above where a crew member sits. a cage could easily have complicated exiting the vehicle.
I guess Russia is fricking finished?
this thread is notable for a few reasons now >brown hands typing >brown hands posting >literal thirdie thoughts >Russia did not start the invasion coping, but now, certainly is
and this is good for DEBONKED reasons
Russian MIC has experienced a massive loss of institutional knowledge in the past 20 years as anybody with IQ over 90 has fled or been sent to gulag.
All these photoshoots also show factory floors with signs of long-term idling. Westerners like to speculate that this is because of "sanctions", but considering the volume of smuggling going in from Europe and China, the most likely cause is lack of workers - even last year, Putinists were berating factory workers for striking due to missing/delayed wages.
dont worry germany sending new wonder weapon to solve this upgrade
Why are they designing it like this? It's almost like they want drone grenades to get stuck on the roof and project the blast straight down into the crew compartment.
Explosions travel the path of least resistance
I think its NERA modules (these are very simple, 1 sheet of rubber sandwiched bettwen 2 sheets of thin steel). But NERA required to be angled relatively to attack thus angled set up.
These would stop small shaped charges (lie 40mm grenades or DPCIM bomblets) that are dropped by drones.
blasts like air and water go where the least resistance is so basicly left and right
ASSUMING that thing is welded correctly
>ASSUMING that thing is welded correctly
Bold assumption
Why don't they put a bunch of actual tank armor on top of the tank instead of sheet metal or something like just enough for a javelin to destroy but not effect the tank itself
why don't they just build a tank with no weaknesses?
actual armor is heavy
actual armor is heavy
Why don't they just put a tank on top of a tank?
Does anyone have that webm of Russian factory workers using ratchets and screwdrivers on thin air?
OEM is always better than aftermarket.
Leos dont have one
Leos do not move
How is Russian tank production going anyhow? Are their losses still unsustainable?
Yes.
But eventually they'll have so little it'll be hard for Ukriane to find them so they'll actually increase on numbers eventually.
In OPs image they appear to be trying to add thermal armour so they can operate for longer during the thermal barrier crossing between the night and day, the standoff armour is to protect from drone dropped stuff.
Like 5-10 T-90s a month. Plus some T-72 and T-62 reactivation from those rusty reserves in Siberia.
>5-10 T-90s a month
Where are they getting the electronics and thermal sights from?
they are using locally made old tech T-80 optics
They make them, are you stupid or something? It's not 7nm chip technology.
>Where are they getting the electronics and thermal sights from?
they pull the chips from 1990's SNES's
the graphics arent great, but the difference between a tractor and a tank is negligible on the battlefield
>and thermal sights from
indigenous
>Like 5-10 T-90s a month.
Is that from scratch or upgrades to existing t-72 hulls?
>Is that from scratch or upgrades to existing t-72 hulls?
youre thinking of abrams, which havent been produced new since 1994
>pic related
are "new" tanks made by Russia
its a small nuance, but... one none the less
>Comparing Abrahams' upgrades to T-72's
no
those abrams are considered "new" ukraine is getting ~~*new*~~ abrams anyday now, and when they do, the vatnigs consequences will never be the same
The frick are you talking about?
Your pic clearly shows old Soviet T-72Bs being refurbished to the B3 standard.
Russia has not produced a cast turret since the last turret casting plant (in Azovstal, yep, in Mariupol closed down in the early 90s).
T-90Ms are probably all new production, and they use welded turrets.
>T-90Ms are probably all new production, and they use welded turrets.
welded?
does this make the tank brown? is this a thirdie tank?
>Putinists were berating factory workers for striking due to missing/delayed wages.
bidenista's here threaten that literally everyday, we have entire 'movements' devoted to not working, and getting paid more for it too
I sense subtle vatnik undertones in that post^
im gunna get out my color-wheel, but im pretty sure i know where your post falls
>does this make the tank brown? is this a thirdie tank?
I don't get it. Is this a joke or something?
i interpreted it as a jab at russian build quality by comparison to up-armored technicals
Armatard thinks that he can win argument online by having a nervous breakdown and stringing random sentences out of every insult that has been levied at him.
Don't try to make sense of his outbursts, they were never intended to make sense.
You need a better LLM, anon. This one is 2020 tier.
>You need a better LLM, anon. This one is 2020 tier.
are you questioning my LLM?
dont ever talk to me, or my boyfriends LLM ever again
Lass has a hairy chuff
jannies do your fricking job, time is money (not you (You) thought HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHA)
>mom HURRRY! THE BROWN HANDS ARE AT IT AGAIN!
>THEY DREW HAIR ON MY favorite chinese cartoon girlwaifus butthole
nooooooooooooooooooooo
not the thirdie art!
take yourself, your hair, and your chinese cartoon butthole to your containment board.
Most current Russian tank "production" is cannibalization of reserves or inoperable units. This is why Russia has been forced to use "naked" T-62s and T-54/55s in front-line combat. Those same hulls pull double duty as artillery pieces now, because they've shot out or lost too many SPGs they cannot replace at an appreciable rate. It's unfortunate for the Putin junta, but they shot their wad trying to make "3 days to Kyiv" a reality and now are steadily losing entrenched territory instead. It's gonna be a grind, though. Even Russians can mass manufacture mines.
>Most current Russian tank "production" is cannibalization of reserves or inoperable units
but enough about the abrams
>now are steadily losing entrenched territory instead.
u/k/ikes have Crimea back, and their taking Russian land?
Russia got invaded and lost land?
ukraine grew in size as a country?
what % of landmass has ukraine grown by?
ill wait
>Armatard
NOOOOO not the heckin armatard
warriorttard where are you?
brown hands are allover this thread, benchoding it up!
im fricking sick of all the brownness, sick of it!
it stinks like a curry filled diaper in here
BRING THE REDDITORS BACK!
thats what we need to get rid of the mumbai mafia
>but enough about the abrams
Abrams requires no new production, and has not for some years. You might have a point if the US was forced to rotate M-60s and M-48s to its frontline units, though.
>u/k/ikes have Crimea back, and their taking Russian land?
Per your dictator's decree, the land Ukraine has liberated is Russian. Including Kherson, which I was told would be Russian forever. But less sarcastically, Ukraine has no desire for Russian land, merely to expel Russian invaders.
>Russia got invaded and lost land?
Yes, in Belgorod oblast. Oddly the Chechens you've deployed there keep hiding from combat and the regular army troops are (according to the locals) just looting rather than fighting most of the time.
>ukraine grew in size as a country?
Ukraine has no desire to grow in size, merely reclaim what is rightfully theirs. Despite Russia's attempts to annex them, they're well on their way.
>actually interacting with Armatard
Idiot.
Where's the hair
>imagine
>Are their losses still unsustainable?
No
Why don't they just make tanks out of diamonds, the hardest metal on earth
russia has agreement with de beers not to mine diamond.
if only they would take of the gloves they could use the strongest metal of all
Guess the wedge shapes may be to make the shaped charge grenades detonate pointing away from the roof or something? It's much smaller than the improvised ones though, frick knows why since the size of the cope cage was what really helped when dealing with suicide drones etc.
I liked the ancient BTR-70s that showed up in the same video
Why not just put a dome on top? then anything that comes onto the tank just slides off including rpg's since they'd hit the dome and ping upwards.
How much penetration does a top attack missile have? Would not mounting a cage with "GREATEST ERA OF WORLDS STOPS NATO APFSDS" add extra armor up and slow down the penetrator enough to prevent instant cosmonaut promotion?
A factory kit is a step up.
The design is still a joke that makes me question if they actually have any engineers in employ and receive any actual intelligence from the front or just war drone drop compilations on Telegram.
What tank are they hiding under it? I'm assuming its some shit heap because they seem to hide stuff thats embarrassing to them.
t90m
So i was right.
what?
Look at the roadhweels anon.
>doesn't know about thermal hiding blankets
t80
ctrl f: alcoholism aids hiv nigeria sauce source
https://nitter.net/i/status/1669934964916523008
https://t.me/mod_russia/27494
https://t.me/mod_russia/27496
>Factory cope cage kit.
can I see the nato-factory making tanks in 2023+?
>t.peterdorski
your whatabout is flawed for two obvious reasons: one, obviously you can see that. just image search for it. two, russia had better slat and mesh armor designs (cargo cult imitation of nato implementations) 5-7 years ago than they're installing today.
what makes this thread's topic notable, for the non-1pbtid non-streetshitter anons following along:
at the outset of the 2022 invasion, cope cage designs were not professionally designed or fabricated – various military units just welded shit up and hoped for the best, with a wide variety of cages as a result.
whereas now we're seeing a factory-direct cage at omsktransmash, and that cage STILL seems to completely ignore what the russian MIC already knows about how to make half-decent slat armor.
that leo is not destroyed. you're also looking at damage directly above where a crew member sits. a cage could easily have complicated exiting the vehicle.
slats against rounds
this seems to be against droneBlack person grenades
the future is nuclear powered tanks emitting endless steam as camouflage and soft active protection. Screencap this post
oh man...
DEBONK STATUS: utterly bonked
I guess Russia is fricking finished?
this thread is notable for a few reasons now
>brown hands typing
>brown hands posting
>literal thirdie thoughts
>Russia did not start the invasion coping, but now, certainly is
and this is good for DEBONKED reasons
k reddit
Russian MIC has experienced a massive loss of institutional knowledge in the past 20 years as anybody with IQ over 90 has fled or been sent to gulag.
All these photoshoots also show factory floors with signs of long-term idling. Westerners like to speculate that this is because of "sanctions", but considering the volume of smuggling going in from Europe and China, the most likely cause is lack of workers - even last year, Putinists were berating factory workers for striking due to missing/delayed wages.
Unironically cope cages would have saved this Leo from an FPV.
the cage is for urban warfare, not against atgm.
>armatard obsessed schizoid is back
oh god just bring back the redditor dogs at this point, even they're more tolerable
Guaranteed that's a wooden tank under all those blankets.