1: Who's the LEAST trustworthy country in the F35 program?
2: Is every country in this list really MORE trustworthy than Turkey?
F-35 exports
1: Who's the LEAST trustworthy country in the F35 program?
2: Is every country in this list really MORE trustworthy than Turkey?
That Malaysian spammer is probably right about Singapore tbh.
SG wouldn't sell out it aircraft cos they treat their defence too seriously. They ban Malay SGs from being in the air force incase they turn traitor. They're not going to leak the F-35 since if they do it jepodises their entire military
Pretty consistent with their ideology of being a Chinese supremacist state
Israel.
The fact that Israel is the only export customer of the f-35 who were able to get the software keys to the f-35 shows they are very well trusted, if anything.
>"Give us the export keys or we will get Lockheed cancelled, goyim."
Seems kinda suspect
>Israel gets export keys before Britain, Australia or Japan
Damn
Israel got software keys but the UK, a tier 1 partner, didn't?
This is so that F-35 is fitted with certain Israeli electronics or components, for the F-35I edition
Not entirely surprising, Israel is the testing ground for US weapons manufacturers
t. IDF
>F-35I edition
Is this the new model of baby microwaver?
But why does only Israel get to have their own version and not other partners?
I dunno ask Lockheed Martin CEO, also they take input from combat operations we conduct in Syria or Lebanon from it and use it for future blocks of the aircraft. It is useful when there are various S-200, S-300 AA's in Syria.
Also Marketing, every Defense chief has eyes on Israeli ops using American/Israeli technology, and might want in too.
LOL but the whole bs reason re Turkey was that 'they might fly it near the s400'.
You really don't need export keys or source code to test. It's there to make sure US can turn it off at will.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/chinas-j-10-vigorous-dragon-did-israel-help-build-deadly-fighter-80136
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-12-28-mn-13774-story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/05/23/israelis-aided-china-on-missiles/ac476260-1cc5-4879-9de3-b3993dfec57b/
https://web.archive.org/web/20180101030053/http://www.mepc.org/journal/israel-china-relations-and-phalcon-controversy
greatest ally btw
Israel's got dirt on American politicians and business CEO's fricking children on Epstein's island through Mossad. They'll get whatever they want and do whatever they want with it and the US will just smile and take it.
Forgive the shitty image but Aipac is the largest lobby in Congress and many congress members are Israeli dual citizens/israeli.
>All these anti Israeli replies.
Goddamit, /k/.
The vast majority of /k/, hates and despises Israel
Has Israel tried not being treacherous? Again, why did they celebrate Jonathan Pollard, who was trying to sell US state secrets to the highest bidder? Why did they sell US missiles to China? Why did they steal plutonium from a site in Pennsylvania. Israel is not a friend or ally to any other nation.
I don't want to have beef with Israel but if they behave this way, I'm afraid I will never trust them.
Not surprisingly seeing as the majority of politicians and CEOs in the US are israelites.
Israel historically has the best pilots. The amazing records of fourth gen US fighters are largely attributable to Israel's ROFLstomp. Even with fighters that suffered plenty of losses when in use of the US and US allies stomped with Israel.
For example, the Iranian Phantoms shot down no Iraqi aircraft and like 30 F-4s and F-5s got downed by the MiG 21, 23, and 25, but the balance for Israel was completely different.
MiG-21s, 23s, and 25s also shot down F-14s, although the balance was not in their favor.
The Iraqi reactor raid, the raid with commercial air liners in Uganda on a military base, the Syrian reactor raid, the success of up to a few thousand sorties a year in Syrian airspace through Russian systems including licensed S-300 clones owned by Iran who is definitely shooting to kill (and Russian AD who is definitely at least trying to war targets and failing) without a single loss while often using old non-stealth aircraft...
There is a reason the US does so much for Israel on the air front.
Ground less so, but we get innovations there too, mostly in force protection/interception. The new M1 AP system is from Israel.
The Egyptian one is even worse than it looks. The MiGs bombed the runway as the F-4s were scrambling in a surprise attack. The pilots were not expecting to go up at all and the planes weren't even fully armed.
>It was the hardware
The MiG-21 MF was a new and a dedicated interceptor. Far from being antiquated compared to the Israeli fighters, they were newer.
The MiG-19, in Vietnamese hands against American pilots, shot down 7 F-4 Phantoms. A single Vietnamese ace (Vietnamese aces take up all the top spots for kills in that war) engaged 3 F-4s, shooting down one and damaging another in the MiG-19, which took down 7 F-4s overall. The MiG-21 downed a further 26 F-4s.
MiG-17s shot down a number of F-4s and comparable period US fighters in Vietnam, with two Vietnamese pilots reaching ace status using the plane.
>It was Arab pilots
See the middle battle when Soviet pilots faced off against Israel, they also got BTFO. Also, the MiG-21 was used to down several more modern F-4s piloted by Iranians during the Iran-Iraq War. The F-4 and F-5 did not manage a single kill in these engagements.
The MiG-21 also shot down multiple much more advanced F-14s (although here the F-14 outperformed the MiGs by a wide margin).
F4 losses were even higher in the Korean War, although the variants aren't as directly comparable.
Point being, 20 MiG-17s and 8 MiG-21s is a MASSIVE overmatch for 2 F-4s. 24 MiG-21s are also a significant overmatch for 12 Mirages and 4 Phantoms.
The Syrian rout was a significant overmatch but still embarrassing. The MiG-25, which is not a sea change in capabilities, has shot down F-16s.
Trusted and Trustworthy are two very different things , Jesus Trusted Judas and Judas was not very trustworthy now was he ?
israel easily
Switzerland and israeliterusalem
Singapor and Israel. Israel sold our nuke secrets to the chinks before, so there is no doubt in my mind that they having an internal meeting on how much to sell f-35 for
They purchased fiber placement machines from Ingersoll in order to make their own F-35 parts. Who knows how many F-35 parts they intend on cloning.
Singapore has no need for F-35 fighters. The value lies chiefly in being able to compromise the technology to the PLA. Singapore is a sanctuary for Chinese billionaires & PLA spies.
My experience with Singaporeans is that they are barely more trustworthy than Mainland Chinese. The 4 qty order is a giveaway:
1 for the PLAAF labs for study
1 for their own labs for study
1 for sending on exercises with international "allies".
1 for domestic use to "show" the taxpayers.
Nothing good will come of this.
>t. Shitposting Ausgay.
Rich coming from an Australian dog who can't tell which master he wants to serve. We are capable of proper bilateral relations while remaining in balance with America.
ESL detected, probably Indonesian
I like Americans and America, and I’d gladly take their side over chinks and whatever “global south” “superpower” your seething thirdie mind dreams of.
Call us ”lapdogs” or “vassals” all you want, at the end of the day there’s a reason why there’s immigrants from your country in mine, and no immigrants from Australia in yours; and it’s because we’ve achieved more in 200 years then your nation has managed over the past thousand.
I’m Australian and I hate them, mainly cause they are majority chinese and see them as suspect
That’s been my whole argument about not trusting Singapore
Which makes certain morons in this thread seethe
You're not Australian you're a Malay cuck - if you're Australian, post the second verse of the national anthem.
To its table lands and its golden sands, we are proud to say we belong.
Queensland more shit than any other land but liquorland after the abos get their bennies
I was like
>no fricking way, this post is too short and informal
But just out of curiosity I looked anyway
Holy fricking shit dude
Everyone in Australia knows the truth about Singapore, the vast majority of /k/ believes this to be the case
You're not Australian
Cope and seethe
Chinkoid shill btfo
You’re definitely not Australian, I didn’t even mention Singapore once
Don't take me for an Indo. Also all your expats are here fricking things up. Take them back
> Turkey
Turkey was going to get F-35 and be in the production chain but gave it all up for S-400. Honestly the watermelon seller’s decision there is pretty bad. You could (as Turkey) just not have S-400 or Patriot and be perfectly fine.
Israel easily, powergap and then Singapore.
Nah look at how Houthi's were lobbing missiles at Saudi Arabia who had patriots, now imagine not having patriots and being up against Kurds.
Hate watermelon man all you want but he was between a rock and a hard place. If America gave Turkey Preds and Patriots when they asked they could have nixed Turkey's domestic arms industry in the bud.
Australia
We are owned by the chinks
Both good answers but still 100x better than Turkey
>.t Chang
There are zero chinks in the armed forces. They don't enlist because it doesn't pay as well as the jobs they'd get with their uni degrees. The software of the f-35 is closed to anyone outside of Lockmart HQ.
>The software of the f-35 is closed to anyone outside of Lockmart HQ.
That's a nice thought, but nobody knows that for certain. Anyone who would disclose otherwise would be breaching some serious NDAs.
>least trustworthy
>australia
yeah nah you're a dumb c**t. we've had the growler for years, the ONLY country outside of the USA deemed trustworthy enough to have them.
>he thinks that a super hornet + a couple ECM pods = fully fledged growler
No, a Growler is a fully fledged Growler you powerbottom
Singapore will get more and more closer to PRC as time goes on and China becomes more regionally dominant. Most Singaporean already think that Taiwan is some rundown shithole that is declining
Yeah, Chinese propaganda does work with enough money CCP. Shithole indeed kek.
Truly chink prop hours
ISRAEL
Singapore. Israel isn't exactly trustworthy but they're nationalist enough that it's moreso they're trustworthy because I doubt they'd return the favor not because I think they'd give away the secrets to someone else. Singapore might as well be China.
Oh my God yes. Yes yes a thousand times yes.
You've got Switzerland highlighted but not Germany
Israel is accused of giving China F-16 data for the J-10. This was a big part of Congress banning export of the F-22 (which ultimately doomed the program to be a huge waste of money to date).
However, more recently it seems this might have been a scapegoat situation for ubiquitous US leaks to China combined with Israel selling some information on their own indigenous Lavi fighter.
Israel got into the fighter game due to a French embargo, making a Mirage clone and then a better Mirage. From what they learned they made the Lavi, which also used knowledge of how the F-16 and F-15 worked.
It shares a lot of similarities and was considered as capable, although with lower speed but much greater range. It's really unfair to say this was in anyway a US product since it was more based on a French design and made by Israelis, but someone had to get the blame for Chinese "catch up growth," and it certainly couldn't be US corporations funneling trillions to them for lower production costs...
South Korea there is the issue of defectors to the Norks now and again.
DESU, the F-35's entire program leaking was due to US corps. US corps keep getting caught putting Chinese components into high end hardware, then spend tons of money and effort into trying to hide that they are Chinese components in the future instead of starting production somewhere a bit more expensive (that or they legit lost the ability to manufacturer their own shit by having it and all tools done in China for so long). If anyone fricks us over it's likely to be own own corporations for +0.9% profit margin. US has huge precedent that even if you kill frick tons of Americans and strategically impact the country, so long as you do crime for a corp you will never go to jail and also keep most your millions (e.g. 2008 financial crisis, etc.)
You have no idea what you are talking about. Advanced electronics is not manufactured in china
moron alert.
Shit is assembled in China and companies are too cheap to move these lines outside of China. Why do you think we keep getting Congressional reports on the F-35 and other systems being filled with Chinese components?
Second, high end shit is also produced in China. The die and chips for GPUs are almost entirely from ROK and Taiwan, but the VRAM, PBUs, and heat sinks are all Chinese. Parastatials had an intentional strategy of developing "less threatening" niche components, then dumping (selling below manufacturing costs) to erase competition.
Western airliner developers agreed to do tech transfers so that all components for modern planes are made in China, and, surprise, surprise, their progress jumped ahead and there is how a Chinese airliner.
China has 40% of large ship building, the US 0.4%. China has 70% of photoinitiators, corned the market on lithium hexafluorophosphate and wet process separators, without which you don't get EVs or new military drones.
Common sense dictates Israel, but I would actually say Singapore. Their military is infested with Chinese spies, I’m surprised they’re part of the program. We refused to let Taiwan participate for the same reason.
Oh and singapore
Israel south korea
singapore because they're Black folk
>2: Is every country in this list really MORE trustworthy than Turkey?
turkroach hands made this post
>Who's the LEAST trustworthy country in the F35 program?
Israeli press routinely screeches about sensitive material being sold on to Russia and China. Surely can't have anything to do with fake right of returners after the Jackson-Vanik Amendment.
If history is anything to go by; the Italians.
Israel
I'm literally an Orthodox Byzantine larper and even I trust Turkey more than Singapore
Why would anybody pay for this?
Who's buying b's?
Damn, pilot error is now indicative of bad design?
Just get rid of the pilot meme already, we have ai
https://www.israelivirtuallibrary.org/u-s-provides-israel-a-qualitative-military-advantage
Middle East is the reason. You can’t be in the Middle East and have weapons with the same capabilities Israel does.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2011/11/17/ensuring-israels-qualitative-military-edge
If Turkey is European it’s ok
If it’s Middle East it’s not
CENTCOM decided TR was Middle East
Esp after Erdofan’s hr seethes about Israel
> The cornerstone of America’s security commitment to Israel has been an assurance that the United States would help Israel uphold its qualitative military edge. This is Israel’s ability to counter and defeat credible military threats from any individual state, coalition of states, or non-state actor, while sustaining minimal damages or casualties. This commitment was written into law in 2008 and each and every security assistance request from the Israeli Government is evaluated in light of our policy to uphold Israel’s Qualitative Military Edge.
>3 of Singapore's F-35's mysteriously found in bilibili phone camera video
Also why Arabs can buy F16 or F15 only when Israel got F35.
Because Arabs are filthy liars by nature.
Gezi park response
Gaza flotilla
Anti YPG-PKK
Anti FETO (famously Islamist conservatives who love Israel).
Etc
All were perceived as weakening Israel’s security
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/feto-fugitive-complains-of-turkish-anti-israel-protests/1000514
Like in TR it was pretty funny bc you’d have guys be like “I believe in Islamic fundamentalism and support Likud and US positions on everything”.
Israel
Wait. . .Didn't Canada cancel their orders under Truedeau, despite putting millions into the project. when did they order again?
Last year. They realized that they had no better options, and made the French seethe because they decided against buying Rafales.
I feel like there should be more in SEA also when is canada gonna get colored in?
Singapore and Canada due to Chink influence. Turkey isn't trustworthy because Erdogan will wheel n deal anything in his hands.
This. Turkey is for sale. Just wheel and deal. Not an ideological country.
One thing Americans don’t understand about that country.
Why did those knuckleheads in the pentagon even approved singapore
>1: Who's the LEAST trustworthy country in the F35 program?
undoubtedly Singapore
>2: Is every country in this list really MORE trustworthy than Turkey?
yes
Turkey was MANUFACTURING massive components of the F-35.
singapore
by a long shot
>1
picrel
>2
yes
Italy, they are just going to sell them to the mafia or crash them because they are subhuman turncoat animals
Let me start by saying I'm actually fairly pissed about this. Singapore isn't a trusted ally that we know is going to defend F-35 design secrets and they're way too close to China's sphere of influence.
In all seriousness, perhaps we could protest our concerns to the American military. American Anons can protest in DC, or in the downtown of their city, or by their closest military base or recruiting station. At the same time, the rest of us can begin the social media campaign to prevent these sales. The PLA may already have stolen the F-35's secrets, but we won't just let the military hand them over 12 fricking planes. If enough of us protest and if we are loud enough, they will hear, and at the very least, other Americans will hear. More people must know of the Chinese menace.
are
Yeah pretty much.
Despite the fact that Malaysia is a larger and more strategically important country when it comes to countering the PRC in the South China Sea, the US ... has chosen to favor Singapore diplomatically and arm it with latest equipment like F-35 and HIMARS and give them basing rights in Guam. While Malaysia's armed forces facing budgetary constraints. Yet US only provides token assistance to Malaysia such as donating maritime surveillance radar and MPAs. Just because Malaysia in the past adopted a principled neutral stance and refuse to support illegal US war in Iraq, Israeli occupation of Palestine and condemn Russian war in Ukraine.
Ironically, Singapore are nothing but a Chinese b***h. Just another Chinese province. Don't agree? Just look at who in charge of Singapore Armed Forces.
holy shit, mutts are moronic
Might as well drop them off in Hong Kong.
Singapore will bend over for China the moment they ask. I am still surprised at how many people are unaware that the ethnic Han Chinese Singapore people have 100% loyalty to China.
Singaporeans are Chinese in the end. This has been talked about many times. Because their government and businesses are dominated by Han Chinese, the PRC gets close to them. China recruits from their diaspora, even those who fled the CCP in the first place. Money talks and that also creates bonds between PRC officials and businessman with ethnic Chinese businessman elsewhere. The PRC claims to be the guardian of Han Chinese people in general. That's why ethnic Chinese are always vulnerable to collusion. Most of the Triads got hijacked by CCP agents too and became a PRC spy, trafficking and money-laundering network.
When Chinese tennis player Peng Shuai disappeared for weeks after she ratted out in Nov 2021 one of the top CCP leaders Zhang Gaoli (a former member of Politburo Standing Committee) on social media for raping her and it caused a huge stir and got mainstream media coverage internationally, it was a Singaporean news outlet that conveniently happened to stumble upon and interview her in China to show that she's perfectly happy and nothing to worry about. Singapore is a Chinese soft asset.
>Singapore will bend over for China the moment they ask
Ah yes the country who was the last in ASEAN to recognised the People's Republic of Chinaand who conducts military training with Taiwan will be dying to suck China's wiener whenever possible.
Of couse!
The vast majority of /k/, believes this to be the case
like
I remember when western media was pretending to not see Peng Shuai, despite of her many appearances everywhere, asking meaningless question of where is she, where is she. because they hitched their wagon on the story of her disappearance and the fact that she was alright was like an egg on their face. Same as they believed that Jack Ma disappeared and when he appeared, media again had to eat a crow. And now we have story like this, making Western media and fools like you look like idiots, because you place your all bets on CHINA DISAPPEARED PERSON X! story and can't admit you were wrong when that person appears and it turnes out you were peddling fake shit.
Tell us why they bought four.
singaporians look down on mainlanders like they are wienerroaches tough
The vast majority of /k/, believes otherwise
the "vast majority" of /k/ is some spam gay
Yeah I dunno why that guy is pretending Singaporeans wouldn't go pro china given the opportunity. The Chinese are very tribal like that, even the ones living in other countries like Singapore or Malaysia. While Singapore isn't a dictatorship controlled by mainland China, they are indeed heavily intertwined due to ethnic and business interests. Singaporeans 100% would prefer to side with China if it didn't make the west dislike them. In the case of a war or something of that nature, Singaporean Chinese will 100% side with the CCP. I have a dozen friends that live there and literally every single one of them have majority of their family members openly disliking the west. They basically have the same weird attitude towards the west and China that far right people in the US have about US and Russia. They support them without being fully blatantly "CCP NUMBAH WAN" about it, they support them obliquely by being overly critical and "devil's advocate" about anything regarding western geopolitics while never doing so for the CCP and defending them constantly.
>blablablabla blabla blabla bla
all those words and not a thing of value said or an argument made
go seeth and spam some other board
why
this?
you
Singapore claimed to be "multicultural" country but still threat others Singapore born Indian, Malay or Eurasian as shit.
Singapore only good if you are born as Chinese. Others? Better GTFO and emigrate from that Chinese Disneyland with a death penalty.
>Singapore only good if you are born as Chinese. Others? Better GTFO and emigrate from that Chinese Disneyland with a death penalty.
I thought they treated American visitors/foreign employees ok so long as they aren't filthy druggies. I assume actual immigration and getting citizenship would be hard to near impossible but if someone worked in tech/finance or whatever and was brought in or was visiting I hadn't heard about them being treated badly.
1 (one) yuan has been deposited into your account for these posts.
Try harder. I really got under your skin by not even asking for anything to back up your claims but just observing they aren't very convincing. What is your agenda here? What do you get out of it?
Israel is one thing, everyone knows the Israel lobby has an extraordinary amount influence in the US admin but why Singapore?
In case of war, some of those planes will crash on the adversary territory anyway. In conflict you can't hit the enemy with your missiles without those missiles getting over the enemy and often they don't explode fully or malfunction or electric measures disable them. So all those cute toys that you now have, touted as super secret - after war starts will begin to end up in enemy's hands, he will study them with radars and all kinds of sensors and that novelty will wear off real fast. All those F-35, LRASMS, hypersonic missiles, HIMARS. They are only surprising in first months, but if the conflict lasts, then opponents adapts, studies them, learns to copy their components based on the wreckage. War with China would be hell, because you couldn't just throw all the aces at China in the first days, and be left with nothing left. But also true for China, if their DongFeng missiles will be intercepted many times, they would become less scary.
Israel for sure. People forgot how Israel traded UAV codes they sold to Georgia for Iranian BUK codes that Russia sold to Iran. Pretty sure Israel would even give Russians F35 if they get something back in return.
>belgium
how can you trust a non country?
So many angry Malays here
Least trustworthy is obviously Israel.
>re: Singapore
The US military, US State Dept, and, US civilian "experts" all seem pretty convinced that for the forseeable future Singapore is a reliable ally (in the region) and can be counted on for at least some backing if shit goes hot. Its possible that they are all wrong and you are right, but that's gonna require more than just "I have been there a few times and you can totally trust me."
The vast majority of /k/, disagrees with that assessment
1) I've seen no evidence of that, this thread being a fine example of it
2) Who gives a frick? Again:
>The US military, US State Dept, and, US civilian "experts" all seem pretty convinced
Going to need more than a bunch on anonymous posts that have zero accountability to be convincing otherwise.
I lived in the region for 20 years including 10 in Singapore and the amount of ingrained anti-white racism and hate of the west in every citizen is palpable. I have zero doubts Singapore will side with CCP in the inevitable war.
Not to mention the entire country was built and financed with CCP resources. If a foreigner is born in Singapore the Singapore govt will immediately grant 3 citizenships to mainland Chinese to maintain the race balance. The big 4 families that built Singapore were all CCP members.
What do you get out of being a living ctrl+c ctrl+v button
Are you even sentient
>but that's gonna require more than just "I have been there a few times and you can totally trust me."
>-t. chang trying to divide the alliance
>just give a relatively CCP-friendly nation with lax security free access to crawl all over your sensitive equipment
There's no way any honest poster can be this moronic. You have to just shill the party line no matter how dumb it is.
>fbi
wrong folder zhang
I don't give a frick what you and the State Department think. The absolute state of this country in 2023 where an army of government shills will call you unpatriotic for pointing out that the comped executive branch is actively trying to sabotage the US.
Where did I call you unpatriotic?
We already covered that here
Israel obviously. They have a documented history of giving US technology to China.
Reminder: Jonathan Pollard received a hero's welcome in Israel. They are fricking snakes.
Robert Hanssen died today. That warmed my heart.
>Robert Hanssen
why is no one sayinge he's a israelite ?
he's supposedly of Norwegian descent, I've never seen such a israeli looking Norwegian
Yet Aldrich, The Revealer of Secrets remains.
but he is right
Let me guess, you've been there and met the people and can confidently inform me that it is the case? Well, golly, sure am glad you came along. And I know I can just take you at face value because no one would ever go on the internet and just lie.
Reminder because it triggered the frick out of him
>re: Singapore
The US military, US State Dept, and US civilian "experts" all seem pretty convinced that for the forseeable future Singapore is a reliable ally (in the region) and can be counted on for at least some backing if shit goes hot. Its possible that they are all wrong and you are right, but that's gonna require more than just "I have been there a few times and you can totally trust me."
This directly contradicts most of the posts in this thread
Ah sweet, a schizo loop!
Most of the answers to OP's question say otherwise. Are you suggesting they are all Malays? The fact is, that vast majority of /k/ posters, and Americans by implication, hate and despise Singapore
I like and treasure Singapore.
Anon, you are going to need more. No amount of free (you)s is gonna change that.
>Going to need more than a bunch on anonymous posts that have zero accountability to be convincing otherwise.
>a screenshot of a bunch of random ass tweets
Oh boy, this will surely be useful and not just more of the same shit.
>https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3214828/singapore-pm-lee-says-world-cant-afford-us-china-conflict-give-and-take-needed-accept-beijings-rise
The first one is absolute misrepresentation, I'm not wasting time on anything else.
I was open to the possibility before but after this demonstration I'm now assured that it is actually completely false and claims otherwise have an ulterior motive. Nice backfire.
The evidence is right here in this thread. Most of the posters on /k/ don't think Singapore can be trusted with F-35 secrets.
Yeah, go for it! Do that schizo loop again time, surely it will be persuasive this time:
You're the one in denial of reality. Most of those posting on /k/ are not
...okay. So why are you trying to convince me then?
BULLSHIT! No other Asian country that's getting F-35 is even close when it comes to risk. No other F-35 buyer country has this many ethnic chinese. There's no way you can enforce tight enough security in that hostile of an environment. Best case scenario they only steal sensitive technologies, but more likely is that they fricking sabotage everything.
1. Israel/Singapore?
2. Oh, yeah 100%. Not even close. Greece should be on that list.
Singapore is very close to China, America is right to be suspicious. The funny thing is USA is still selling them F-35s. That seems moronic lmao. If you don't trust them with apps, why sell them 5th gen fighters?? How do burger politicians have a problem with TikTok and not this?
easy
first it's to present itself as a reliable ally that still trusts singapore
second, to send a trojan horse
Korea is even closer! Quick, stop sending them to Korea before it's too late!
Singapore is very close to China, America is right to be suspicious. The funny thing is USA is still selling them F-35s. That seems moronic lmao. If you don't trust them with apps, why sell them 5th gen fighters??
Aren't like +75% of Singaporeans ethnic Chinese?
I guess the US has decided that it really doesn't care F-35s gets into Chinese hands?
KL suuuuuuuuuucks
I do not trust Singapore. They're too friendly to the CCP for my liking.
I don't understand the drama but I enjoyed my visit to Malaysia. Raffles, the Formula 1 street race, the view from the pool at the Marina Bay, I fricking loved it. Singapore kinda sucks- I was disappointed in most of Singapore but especially Kuala Lumpur - the people were rude and it smelled bad
>I enjoyed my visit to Malaysia. Raffles, the Formula 1 street race, the view from the pool at the Marina Bay, I fricking loved it
Those are in Singapore
>Singapore kinda sucks- I was disappointed in most of Singapore but especially Kuala Lumpur - the people were rude and it smelled bad
Kuala Lumpur is the capital of Malaysia
Not a malay shill but can confirm, Singapore is the most Sovlless city in South east Asia
Never trust anyone who accuses you of being from a specific country and dismisses you as a result, solely because you disagreed with them. Transparently bad faith.
Israel
Switzerland
Singapore
Belgium
who gives a shit ? if your country is colored you're a shithole that can't make its own weapons so you might as well have a nice day
Obviously Singapore is the head scratcher. Such a small order, to a marginal ally. It's like they want to leak everything to the Chinese.
Singapore has no need for F-35 fighters. The value lies chiefly in being able to compromise the technology to the PLA. Singapore is a sanctuary for Chinese billionaires & PLA spies.
My experience with Singaporeans is that they are barely more trustworthy than Mainland Chinese. The 4 qty order is a giveaway:
1 for the PLAAF labs for study
1 for their own labs for study
1 for sending on exercises with international "allies".
1 for domestic use to "show" the taxpayers.
Nothing good will come of this.
>t. Shitposting Ausgay.
Singapore was kicked out of malaysia because they are Asiatic israelite. They want to be chinese so badly that they will instantly surrender any F-35 given to them. China allready has the plan, but a functioning frame and the plan would make them the most likely nation to devellop a 5th gen plane. Its giving f-16 to turkey all over again, yes it makes sense, and yes it could see some use, but its almost garanteed to bite the us in the ass down the line. There is allready a massive effort of technological catch up done by china, and giving them physical object is clearly a mistake. Chinese hood is all about ethnicity. It doesn't matter where you were born, what you do or in which country you are. If you are Han Chinese the chinese government considers you chinese clay and sees you as something they rightfully own. You are part of the hive wether you like it or not. These engineers will be hunted and coerced until one snaps and hand over his notes. They are nice, but they aren't fighting for their survival yet, and thus they can't be trusted. Its exactly like north korean exiles who get coerced into ratting other exiles. No matter what you do they are going to get inside.
pencildick
ANY country is more trustworthy than Turkey. Erdoshit will sell one to russia for cheap to keep is head afloat over his Argentina-tier inflation.
Even if true, this is an absolutely moron tier of reasoning.
One of those countries is full of israelites. israelites have zero loyalty, not even to each other.
1. Singapore.
2. Yes.
Yeah I dunno why that guy is pretending Singaporeans wouldn't go pro china given the opportunity. The Chinese are very tribal like that, even the ones living in other countries like Singapore or Malaysia. While Singapore isn't a dictatorship controlled by mainland China, they are indeed heavily intertwined due to ethnic and business interests. Singaporeans 100% would prefer to side with China if it didn't make the west dislike them. In the case of a war or something of that nature, Singaporean Chinese will 100% side with the CCP. I have a dozen friends that live there and literally every single one of them have majority of their family members openly disliking the west. They basically have the same weird attitude towards the west and China that far right people in the US have about US and Russia. They support them without being fully blatantly "CCP NUMBAH WAN" about it, they support them obliquely by being overly critical and "devil's advocate" about anything regarding western geopolitics while never doing so for the CCP and defending them constantly.
comedy gold if true
>Americans decided to sell F-35 to Singapore.
>Doesn't realize that Singapore is another Communist China province.
>Singapore allowed PLAAF 'technician' to inspect the F-35 in the name of Chinese brotherhood and supremacy
>Just a year later F-35 got surpassed by advanced Shenyang FC-31 version.
I laughed hard when I saw news that the US is going to sell F-35s to Singapore. The moment those jets land in Singapore there is going to be an army of Chinese spies ready to dig into whatever areas they haven't stolen already.
The current time in Beijing is 11:35am
Singapore is slightly above ccp China and they are used as such, don't think the US is that stupid and everything that is "given" to Singapore is intentional for a reason with the full understanding its going to China lol
>Who's the LEAST trustworthy country in the F35 program?
USA
Unironically this. Virtually all of the leaks in the F-35 program so far have come from US contractors doing business with China or Chinks working in America
Canada. We would never intentionally sell the tech to China. We're so fricking infiltrated by those chinks that they'll get what they need quick and for free. Australia too is in danger of that and if that doesn't work, then Israel will flat out sell the specs to China
Singapore
Malay schizoid is really going at full tilt today, huh.
Israel
They have secret nuclear weapons
They used to have an intelligence agency geared exclusively towards industrial espionage until they got caught
They have been caught spying in the US numerous times, Pollard was just the tip of the iceberg (dare I say noseberg?)
Supposedly the CIA/NSA at one timeprobably early on in the 50s/60s such a thing wouldn't be tolerated in later times, had a clearance rating that israelites could not apply for because of concerns over loyalty and passing on information
They passed on information to the Soviets
They have done with same with China since the end of the Cold War
As a singaporean, frick china and the us. We don't want anybody to dominate us or have leverage over us just because we have their(enemy's) toys. Most new chinese "agents" and "spies" that come here are in a sense escaping from the more extreme ccp. And frick the malaysian mr butthurt. We outshine them in every aspect including warfare and i welcome their pitiful suicide charge special military operation and end their miserable state. Majulah Singapura Slava Ukraini
Gallery of Rogues:
1. Israel - will sell secrets just to spite the goyim
2. Singapore - will sell to China because they are Chinese
3. Belgium - will sell to anyone because they have no sense of loyalty or other human emotions
1. Israel
2. Even russia or ukraine is more trustworthy than turkey
You will never be F35 country
Singapore should by KF-21