> expensive to develop and produce
> warhead is barely 1000 kg
did they really think this was going to achieve anything? V1 at least is dirt cheap (compared to this)
> expensive to develop and produce. > warhead is barely 1000 kg
> expensive to develop and produce
> warhead is barely 1000 kg
did they really think this was going to achieve anything? V1 at least is dirt cheap (compared to this)
>Another notable V-2 rocket strike took place on November 25, 1944, in Antwerp, Belgium. The attack targeted a cinema called "Rex," where a crowded film screening was taking place. The explosion killed an estimated 567 people and injured around 291 individuals, making it one of the deadliest single incidents caused by a V-2 rocket.
ACK!
>strike a movie theater with an SRBM
Kinzhal tier
>Kinzhal tier
thats funny because its literally based on the German design
hilarious if true
fricking WW2 going on around them and those virgins chose a cinema, peak nazi homosexualry ffs there are Americans hanging around, couldn't find a cinema tent or ice cream truck to strike?
> implying that a V2 could actually be target at a cinema and that it didn't have a scattering of like a dozen miles
>kill a bunch of random Flemish (Germanic people) civilians for no benefit or military purpose
Vgh, the power of GroBdeutschland...
Putin: the germans in WWII were cool, we must fight like them!
Gerasimov: *reads quoted paragraph*
The V-1 had the same warhead iirc.
The V-1 had better CEP than the V-3.
The only limitation of the V-1 was its launch platform, but that is fixable, the same with an improved guidance.
Also they cancelled pic related because it's too simple and ungermanic. Same range as the V-1, unpowered and made with concrete.
Germans are that moronic.
>Same range as the V-1, unpowered and made with concrete.
And a CEP of 'Might hit the British Islands. Maybe.'
>guided glide bomb
moron
It was the prototype of the NASA rocket program and all intercontinental nuclear missiles, as well as space travel itself.
The nazi scientists were brought into NASA via Operation Paperclip after the war.
Under Von Braun, israeli people were used as slave labor in the construction of the V-2. But under Operation Paperclip, the top nazi scientists were absorbed into the US federal government.
What other ideas did that take with them?
It was literally made with American research.
And we all called them Americans
But not everyone knows about Operation Paperclip
If you know about the history of NASA and space travel, you know about the former nazi rocket scientists in America
No, an American literally invented the rocket engine for the V-2.
>muh "everything is paperclip" posters are moronic
Even von braun didn't participate in US rocketry until the late 50s.
You are just juvenile and confrontational.
I'm very much aware that science is international.
Not claiming that he invented the wheel or the concept of a rocket engine.
Am simply making people aware of Operation Paperclip and the crimes of Von Braun.
>crimes
Von Braun is mega based.
Enslaving and genocding israeli people is not based.
That's some schizo nazi stuff, and the nazis suppressed the church.
Because they were insane heretical cultists and very hateful people, who lost the war.
Remember, this is America, and America won the war.
>That's some schizo nazi stuff, and the nazis suppressed the church.
really
particularly since fascists were so big on war being the crucible of nations and peoples and how the righteous race/nation would inherit the earth, 'righteous' as determined by succeeding in combat. Might makes right, because we can we deserve to, etc.
By their own definitions they're a failed ideology. But hey, it's not like it recruits high IQ adherents.
The first piece of humanity to ever go into space was the V2 during the war.
>Enslaving and genocding israeli people is not based.
Yes it is. But unfortunately the Nazis didn't actually genocide them.
>nazis suppressed the church.
Gott mit uns, as it's stated on every man's belt buckle.
Shalom rabbi
>Am simply making people aware of Operation Paperclip and the crimes of Von Braun.
Don't care, the life of every israelite is a pittance compared to achieving our future among the stars
> Even von braun didn't participate in US rocketry until the late 50s.
didn't he take part in the development of the PGM-11 Redstone?
Yes, he worked in the Redstone arsenal and on the Redstone missile that was developed from the mid-50s and adopted in 1958. He wasn't connected to the other research laboratories like Convair and didn't join the US space program after the setbacks and the subsequent soviet Sputnik launch.
>didn't join the US space program ultil after the setbacks and the subsequent soviet Sputnik launch.
fix'd
So he was the space program, he joins man lands on the Moon, he retires no more Moon landings
There would be more if the soviets actually managed to get there instead of botching the space race and fizzling out, but since they didn't there wouldn't be any more flights even if he hadn't retired.
>But not everyone knows about Operation Paperclip
Literally everyone does and has for decades, you just want to feel smart for having a vague grasp of common knowledge
I don't claim to be some genius
It's not taught in schools, at least it wasn't in mine, just want to make it very clear
The federal government worked with the nazis
To save their top scientists and other intellectuals
And this changed the course of world history and American history
Uncle Sam literally let nazis into the federal government cause he wanted those rockets to point at Russia, and the enslavement of israelites was involved in building the rocket
Were you homeschooled by two morons? They teach this in public schools and it’s common knowledge. Nobody cares.
No, they don't, neither do they teach Blair Mountain
>Hey kids, you like astronauts?
>Yeah!
>Do you like nazis?
>What's a nazi?
You see how Japan refuses to teach war crimes
Our government refuses to teach our real history, which is full of their crimes
Tulsa, MOVE, Fred Hampton, Blair Mountain, Colorado Coal Field, Kent State. Not to mention their genocide of the Indigenous people, and their present enslavement of human beings via the 13th Amendment.
Nah, I'll speak the truth to power, and all you can do is get some preddit jannies to give me a three day ban. The truth does not serve corrupt power.
>remember, America won the war, that makes them right
>goes on to cry crocodile tears about loser indians
I was taught all that in public school. Don’t know what to tell you.
>their present enslavement of human beings via the 13th Amendment.
LOL
>I'll speak the truth to power
LMAO
Commands on both sides genuinely thought terror bombing would win the war. They were obviously wrong but they gave it a shot.
M8, the nazi scientists were the spoils of war. We won those egg heads fair and square.
those nazis scientists weren't shit tbh
When we got werner and asked him about his rockets he basically went "What? Don't you guys have Goddard? I got everything from him."
meds
now
>get some preddit jannies to give me a three day ban
yeah you frickin need it buddy, your schizoid posting style is recognizable a mile off. You're like a walking argument for gun control.
>walking argument for gun control
based and true
those are the gays that will shoot you at the range
I learned about Paperclip and Blair Mountain in US History in HS, which would've been 2005ish. My kids learned about it in middle school
>noooo not tha noootziiiis
The USSR were worse
>It's not taught in schools
I know I don't have any hard evidence for it, but as someone who grew up in a "bad" public school state, the people who say this are the same ones who spent all their time saying "why are we learning this, it's so boring" in class.
I went to a pretty good public school in a pretty good state.
Blaire mountain was no. Indian crimes were touched on but in no detail. For instance, it seems like it would be topical to teach that that Sherman guy from the ACW got to be a cavalry officer because he was really good at doing indian genocide for the federal governemtn.
Tulsa was a no. Eugenics was a no. Everything after Korea was basically a no.
I liked history and still do, but american history is like, the one topic that's literally taught WRONG in high school level and college level professors have to unfrick their students who have been taught wrong stuff as a joke.
>But not everyone knows about Operation Paperclip
Everyone knowns that, you are the one late for the party.
>late for the party.
Weere you there in 1945
Some things are not taught for various reasons
Like when the Army and National Guard kill a bunch of American citizens, women and children included, in West Virginia for wanting to be treated like human beings by the coal companies
>Were* you there in 1945
I'd reckon, not likely
But I can still expose the crimes of the government here
Because the FBI openly censors the large social networks now
Based FBI sheltering nazis to atone for the crimes of the israeli FDR government.
We also know that, that is normie-tier knowledge.
Why would you they teach you that? Don't you have the history of your own country to learn?
>Doesn't know about Goddard
Saying Von Braun invented rocketry is like saying the Germans invented tanks.
>Saying Von Braun invented rocketry
>wehraboo is also a vatBlack person
how typical
>a literal hermit who played with balloons
is that Sam?
> It was the prototype of the NASA rocket program
emphasis on prototype.
Putting money into rocket research made sense but fielding this thing in the thousands did not. Should have turned it into a SAM instead
That is how defense research works.
The internet we are using now is a product of a crude military prototype.
This is just how technological progress works in general, and America became the ruling power of the Western world, not Germany.
Things changed in Korea, and after Vietnam, nothing was the same again.
PrepHole is a BBS style forum
The old ARPANET and 80s BBS internet was like this
No weird voting arrangement systems, just chronological order, and now with images and video too
>Should have turned it into a SAM instead
Wasserfall with nitric acid instead of oxygen.
They were actively developing multiple SAMs at Peenemünde, the issue was always targeting systems.
They even had one remote guided SAM missile.
The V-2 was just the most complete experiment and able to terrorbomb. They were also not as expensive as OP tries to make them out to be.
They were more expensive than a bomb, but they were cheaper than a bomber.
> hey were actively developing multiple SAMs at Peenemünde
yes but it wasn't the priority and they never got one into service
> They were also not as expensive as OP tries to make them out to be.
for a one use weapon that has such a bad accuracy they absolutely were. Early on they did cost more than 100k Reichsmark, later on they got that down to around 50k but that is still a lot considering that a Panther tank was around 120k Reichsmark.
It’s not just money though, it’s also availability of materials in your war torn country that gets it’s industrical centres, infrastructure and traderoutes bombed every single day.
The V2 ran on plywood and potatoes, the Panther needed special alloys and like I said, they always failed on the targeting system on the SAMs because the technology just wasn’t there yet.
It’s one way to lob a missile and let it fall somewhere, it’s another to have a missile precisely hit a moving object in the air.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserfall
> The V2 ran on plywood and potatoes
they V2 required much more than that. It's outer skin was metal and it's engine wasn't plywood either. The potatoes / the ethyl produced from them certainly could have been used for other stuff too.
> they always failed on the targeting system on the SAMs because the technology just wasn’t there yet
it could have been had they focused on it and not decided to waste energy on infighting and useless ballistic missiles. Also the V2 apparently had an area of damage with a radius of about 180 meters. Shooting down a single plane would have been impossible to do but against bomber formations it should have had an easier time
>for a one use weapon that has such a bad accuracy
they actually werent that inaccurate, the british enacted a disinfo program to trick the germans into thinking the rockets were not hitting london. they got more accurate during the war and given more time to develop the weapon it would have further improved.
They made 0 sense relative to strategic bombing, but of course the germans lacked strategic bombers.
The only reason to flatline Peenemünde is because they suspected the german nuke program was way more advanced than the us one.
there was no way germany could attempt to strategically bomb the uk at that point in the war. the v2 may have made sense from that perspective because the missiles were almost impossible to intercept (unlike the v1). whether or not it was a good use of resources is an entirely different discussion.
yes, thats what i meant to say.
>there was no way germany could attempt to strategically bomb the uk at that point in the war.
you probably forgot to add "in an effective way" because they certainly did attempt it. Even as late as 1944 (Operation Steinbock) which went ... not quite that well for them (they lost more than 300 planes while the brits lost like 5).
exactly, it would be very wasteful due to the already low supply of pilots and aircraft. trying to strategically bomb the uk would have just resulted in meaningless attrition, irreplaceable losses of pilots and aircraft needed to defend from allied bombing.
they would be at a much greater disadvantage than during the battle of britain as well due to increased allied forces too. the attack of course would be repelled with decreased ability to attack again.
wasn't it the other way around? Didn't they tell them wrong info so they could "correct" their aiming and end up hitting less populated areas. Also didn't the germans try to blow up a bridge (I think it was Remagen?) with mulltiple V2s and literally none of them hit.
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It was also the prototype for the soviet rocket program you absolute mongoloid with no knowledge of military history.
I mean anon said 'space travel itself,' it didnt sound like they were implying otherwise.
Von Braun unironically dindu nuffin, his only connection with the nazis was learning to ride horses in a facility that was owned by the nazi party in the early 30s.
It's just in the late 30s when the war was now a real stuff that he was "invited" to join the party aka a loyalty test and the ss trying to steal a project from the military.
He was giving higher ranks every 365 days because it was a meme position the SS trying to take over a military project in a dick meassuring contest.
And i may add von braun even asked his military superior if he should accept the invitation of the SS
The SS even had orders to kill him and his team in the end of the war if their research was at risk of falling to the enemy.
There were nazis in his team tough and by nazis i mean people that joined the nazi party in the early 30s out of their own will not because they were "invited".
Some of those were taken too with paperclip but i am not sure why people really think von braun was a nazi.
Also liquid fuel rockets he was working had little military aplications unlike solid rockets.
>Also liquid fuel rockets he was working had little military aplications unlike solid rockets.
that's not exactly right. there weren't military applications for them in the US very shortly after Von Braun joined Redstone, basically by the mid 60s the only liquid fuel missile to stay was the Titan II ICBM and then also the Lance SRBM in the 70s was an outlier but for other countries like the soviets liquid fueled missiles were of absolutely paramount importance.
It's really only the LOx-fueled missiles that went out of the military very quickly.
It was mostly a meme, the soviet yea they used liquid hypergolics but that caused the nedelin shit in the first place which killed many of their top engineers.
I am not sure the soviets even published images of their rockets until late 60s, since showing their ibcms were liquid rockets would have removed most of their power projection.
How many solid rockets have placed milsats into orbit Anon?
A bit fewer than the number of rockets adapted from expired old generation ICBMs.
no there was one German involved somehow who said that even if they magically had nuclear warhead for v2 it still wouldn't have done anything but destroy london
that is to say they were aware but hitler just wanted to do a bit of impotent little missile spam to punish the English (seems familiar)
Hitler was just doing what Putin is doing now: spitefully trying to inflict terror with no real military purpose.
The V2 program cost an approximately equivalent amount to the Manhattan project. Not that the Nazis could have built or deployed nukes, but surely that labor, engineering resources and rare materials could have gone ANYWHERE else. The Atlantic wall was a similarly huge waste of labor and steel.
>labor and engineering resources
it turns out slave labor sucks ass, especially when you're clearly losing the war to a side willing to liberate said slaves
>raw materials
the V2 ran on potato alcohol and liquid oxygen
>the V2 ran on potato alcohol and liquid oxygen
it took something like 30 tons of potatoes to make enough fuel for one launch. That is pretty costly for a country on the verge of famine
1,000 kg is 2,200 lbs, anon
Ju-87 stuka dive bombers only carried 5 bombs totalling less than 1,000 lbs
Stukas could carry 1000kg bombs, and even 1800kg ones in short range configurations
Also this other poster is the most blatant reddit refugee I've ever seen
>barely 1000 kg
>barely
yes. 1000 really isn't that much considering a single bomber usually carried much more than that. If it was a precision weapon it would have been adequate, but it wasn't
>did they really think this was going to achieve anything?
us space program.jpg
Contrary to popular belief the us space program is a very independent one that did not came from the nazis.
The soviet one actually did started with nazi engineers since the stalinist fricks realized all their top engineers had been gulaged and may secretly hate communism and sabotage the project so they reversed engineer the v2 completely first.
Also it's hillarious their lunar project failed because their top rocket designeer hated their top rocket engineer designer since the two denounced each other to the nvkd under torture kek.
In the us case von braun team was actually underused for almost 10 years but having 150iq the smartass saved parts of the redstone rocket as faulty to be ready to launch a tiny satellite, if needed, actually he could have launched it before than the soviets but the us government literally stoped him because optics of germans launching the first satellite.
They wanted to give the us navy vanguard project a chance.
>Contrary to popular belief the us space program is a very independent one that did not came from the nazis.
imagine believing this. germany had the most advanced missile/rocket industry in the world, america and britain basically had nothing.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
>imagine believing this. germany had the most advanced missile/rocket industry in the world, america and britain basically had nothing.
The Jet Propulsion Laboratory (Jack Parson Laboratory) which is landing stuff on mars predates the germans in the usa and had all the concepts von braun had, in fact before the war they seem to have collaborated with von braun as individuals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Propulsion_Laboratory
I may add that's were the chinese space program/icbm program was also born.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qian_Xuesen
The yanks had everything tech wise they just invested a shitload of money on strategic bombers and little on rockets, but the fact that the chinese stuff originated as a byproduct of the jpl says a lot.
>The Jet Propulsion Laboratory (Jack Parson Laboratory) which is landing stuff on mars predates the germans
doesnt mean anything, they were very far behind germany in actual technology and it did not have the same funding and emphasis
>they were very far behind germany in actual technology
Lol, maybe in 1942. US guidance systems were miles ahead of german ones.
> US guidance systems were miles ahead of german ones.
were they really?
> "the GB-1 was first used on 28 May 1944 against the Eifeltor marshalling yard in Cologne, but only 42 of 113 bombs released reached anywhere near the target; most "spun in and exploded 15 miles from the target"
Yes they were.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASM-N-2_Bat?useskin=vector
germany had radar guided glide bombs before that though
No they didn't lmao. Stop making shit up you delisuonal moron.
>probably realized how easy these things would be jammable, especially by the allies
because they didn't fricking work
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_X
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henschel_Hs_293
>MCLOS junk
Kid's toys are more suphisticated than this garbage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VB-6_Felix?useskin=vector
>In service: never used operationally
...
Sorry the germans and japs didn't last long enough for it to be tried on a real target.
not an argument.
a naval version of this thing wasn't even built until 1949 why even bring this thing up when it clearly is not even supposed to be capable of targeting ships?
>why even bring this thing up when it clearly is not even supposed to be capable of targeting ships?
Who said anything about targeting ships?
>not operational until 2 years later
It wasn't a MCLOS college hobby project, duh.
> MCLOS that actually did work = bad
> thing that took another couple of years to develop and never got used = good
there is so little info about the VB-6 on the page you linked but the stuff that's there mentions that it require good weather to work and even then it had a circular error probable of 85 feet in testing (no further info on this so this can really mean anything). Also it's not like the germans were the only ones using MCLOS due to their desperation, US used it too
>MCLOS that actually did work
Just barely.
>thing that took another couple of years to develop and never got used
See Bat if you want something that fits your idiotic wehraboo narrative better, homosexual. I said that german missile guidance was as sophisticated as a college project. I stand by my words.
why is disabling or even sinking multiple battleships considered "barely working"? The reason those weapons lost their effectiveness later on was because the allies employed lots of electronic countermeasures, something that also would have worked against the BAT
because of the failure rate these weapons had, naturally
you're not actually trying to convince me that an RC kit with a fricking joystick is some mind-blowing historical invention, are you?
> you're not actually trying to convince me that an RC kit with a fricking joystick is some mind-blowing historical invention, are you?
I did not claim that but considering that the US has nothing of comparision until bascially years later ...
>US has nothing of comparision until bascially years later
Ok delusional moron.
I wish germany was not so worthless at war that we'd have an opportunity to nuke Berlin and i wouldn't have to deal with crap like you now.
> doesn't even try to list a comparable weapon
I accept your concession
I've listed multiple better weapons yet it seems you're too butthurt at their mere mention so you have to cope by pretending they don't exist.
what you listen not only is not necessarily better, it also came -like I said- years later
>not only is not necessarily better
This is 100% concentrated wehraboo cope.
>it also came -like I said- years later
You should go to reddit with your obnoxious posting style.
Like i said, germany was irrelevant after 1942 when the last of their mockups were even notable.
> This is 100% concentrated wehraboo cope.
Azon did not have the ability to control its pitch angle despite coming out almost a year after the Fritz X, its successor the VB-3 Razon which allowed for this did not see service in WW2.
The LBD Gargoyle which was inspired by the Hs 293 also did not see service and didn't have its first successful flight until 1946.
The ASM-N-2 Bat which saw service was however not a very accurate weapon. Targeting ships close to the shore usually was avoided. They should have gone with the TV controlled version instead
> was however not a very accurate weapon
AHAHAHAAHA, this Black person really thinks that radar guided bomb is "inaccurate" while his clown RC kit is wunderwaffe tech.
Black person, the various MCLOS weapons rendered the bomber vulnerable but they were very accurate with a well trained joystick operator.
The Bat was just inaccurate no matter what you did with it, until postwar when tech got better.
> The Bat was just inaccurate no matter what you did with it, until postwar when tech got better.
I really wonder why they didn't go for a TV operated one. It apparently worked pretty well for the Interstate TDR.
Do you understand what MCLOS is? Because it's the most inaccurate "guidance" mode ever devised, period. Imagine juggling something up and down as it flies at high speed towards something. All MCLOS weapons have an abysmal hit rate.
MCLOS is purely up to user skill, it's potential accuracy is dependent on how precise it's controls are.
Despite this downside, operationally it was very successful, taking out battleships like Warspite and Roma.
>MCLOS is purely up to user skill, it's potential accuracy is dependent on how precise it's controls are.
Yeah, in a combat situation this goes down drastically.
>Despite this downside, operationally it was very successful
no it wasn't.
>>the only thing the allies may have had was an unreliable and ineffective radar guidance system for glide bombs
>the only thing allies had was a crude and worthless direct predcessor of most modern anti-ship missiles while mighty deutschland had glorious and flawless RC control technology
This is how you sound.
>no it wasn't.
Except it was? This isn't reddit, your feelings don't really matter for much. You have to go back.
It literally wasn't. Dive bombers were more successful at sinking ships than this.
They sure as hell weren't effective late in the war lmao, the only divebombers Germany had was Stukas, which were horrifically outdated.
dive bombers were fielded in large numbers and vulnerable to aa fire, the german guided asm's actually sank and damaged an impressive number of ships.
>an impressive number of ships
like, 3?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henschel_Hs_293
obviously it was pretty effective considering how it was relatively rare. alot less investment needed to sink a ship.
This one at least was powered and so had an adequate standoff distance for safety.
Bat could be launched from >3x the distance, though.
It basically irepparably crippled most ships it hit, due to it punching to the keel and exploding under the ship
Roma: Sunk
Italia: Disabled until war end
Savannah: Crippled until near the war end
Uganda: Fricked up enough to not operate as a frontline ship
Warspite: Fricked up for the rest of the war, a total writeoff.
germany was still the first to field guided weapons though and the bat wasnt as effective, the tech was just not mature enough. still impressive though however.
>germany was still the first to field guided weapons though
i never disputed this, i just stated that their contribution to their development beyond that poing was minimal and their tech primitive.
creating the first guided weapons is not minimal.
yes it is when they never get anywhere and have no future
fritz x had a 47% hit-rate which doesn't seem to be that bad. Azon also seems to have been reasonably effective against bridges
47% hit rate for an individual bomb is a huge improvement over an unguided bomb. thats the reason these things were made, to target ships which were difficult to hit.
are we comparing to modern guided weapons? or are we talking about the very first guided weapons ever made, back in the early-mid 1940s? because there is a difference.
> The success rate was mediocre at best, While some ships were indeed severely damaged, the drawbacks of the primitive radar seeker also became obvious. When attacking a ship near land (e.g. in port), Bat tended to home on all kinds of unwanted ‘targets,’ like docks, mountains, etc. Because of these problems, combat use of the Bat was relatively limited.
> The squadron’s orders were to engage in “locating and reporting enemy surface forces and aircraft [with] destruction of enemy targets within the capability of the search plane desirable.” On April 23, Kennedy found his opportunity while patrolling with his squadron mate, Lt. Cmdr. George Hicks. In two separate drops, however, both their Bats failed to find the target.
> hay’s second Bat then homed in, apparently on target. However, during the last 2,000 feet or so, the weapon turned 45 degrees and headed toward shore, striking a large oil storage tank and causing a violent explosion. These particular Bat strikes were still determined unsuccessful. The weapons officers were convinced that the weapons “saw” the target, and yet the targeted ship was not struck. Back in Washington, D.C., there was disappointment and some embarrassment because the oil facility that had been obliterated was on a no-strike list
so i guess germany beat the allies to guided missiles and missiles in general.
Yeah, and promptly lost the lead right afterwards, which is exactly what i originally said.
> and promptly lost the lead right afterwards
> germany in ruins, scientists and their equipment get moved to USSR and US
gee, I wonder what happened
This happened much earlier than that. 1942 is about the last moment german mockups were relevant. I'm sure you forgot i mentioned that instead of just being a worthless little b***h that wants to make undefensible implications by mentioning paperclip.
>promptly lost the lead
lol no. the only thing the allies may have had was an unreliable and ineffective radar guidance system for glide bombs that was by no means ready to be fielded.
>here is your source bro
the page talks about how easily this thing got confused and the only mention of a successful use uses pic related as its only source. Regardless germany also had fire-and-forget homing glide bombs (BV 246), they didn't use them though (probably realized how easy these things would be jammable, especially by the allies)
>doesnt mean anything, they were very far behind germany in actual technology and it did not have the same funding and emphasis
The only thing they were probably behind is bigger rockets due to lack of funding.
The fact that it was founded by multiple communists, one literal chinese spy and one occultist made the investment on the von braun team a way better choice tbh.
But JPL being the place were the chinese space program started says a lot.
In a way it's a space program that started independently from the russian or yank space program that started by studying the v2.
The chink one started on California at jpl.
Well if they were to survive another 20 years they would be the first to have nuclear ICBMs. They lost the moment they didn't let Russia invade Poland first.
>barely 1000 kg
homie that's enough to turn a city block into rubble
they were meant to deliver a v/x payload, but were probably less effective than conventional air raids and strategic bombers.
Werner von Braun telling Hitler anything he wanted to hear just as long as Werner got his rocket testbed.
>make v2
>actually kills over 100 civillians
>london has a bright idea
>says "eh, it didn't even hit london it err... overshot by like... 10 miles....
>German """spies""" (double agents) tell Berlin
>Berlin tells V2s to change trajectory
>V2s start smashing into the open countryside
>London: "OH MY LAWD THEY'RE SLAUGHTERING HUNDREDS, NO, THOUSANDS OF US! PLEASE GOD STOP THIS ONSLAUGHT"
>Germans buy it, keep sending rockets that completely miss
Wunderwaffer were so funny
> spot germans launching rockets at belgians
> send out bombers to destroy the launchpad
> accidentally bomb the wrong part of the city and end up killing over 500 dutch civilians
> mfw
>"""""""""accidentally""""""""""""
that one was for medway...
Goal was a two-stage rocket that could strike NYC or Washington DC.
A lack of imagination is what loses wars.
Instead of arguing over MCLOS and early radar guidance, why don't we appreciate the Interstate TDR? Having a TV-guided bomb in service in 44 has to be worth something, right?
There were 2 bongs who apparently patented radio controlled torpedoes back in the 19th century.
there were also the Hs 293D and GB-4. Depending on the sources they might have been used