>Every single NATO entity being gaslighted into believing that Ukraine is worth risking WW3 over
>Every single NATO entity being gaslighted into believing that Ukraine is worth risking WW3 over
>Every single NATO entity being gaslighted into believing that Ukraine is worth risking WW3 over
Or they were doing something in Ukraine that they would start WW3 to cover up.
ukraine is russia's frick puppet, there's no way to actually conceive of the financial corruption there. Then obama swooped in with the CIA and organized a coup and "they" whoever "they" are outside of people like biden, started funneling cash out of there
russia's been fricking with their banks since after the collapse of the soviet union. soviet israelites moved in and started collapsing their banks through corruption. one of these soviet israelite bankers is connected to zelensky, I forgot if he helped create his party or what.
Maybe a corrupt soviet israelite banker defected to the west
>Or they were doing something in Ukraine that they would start WW3 to cover up.
getting warmer
QRD?
bioweapon research targeting russian genetics (among other things)
https://badvolf.com/dod-funded-bioweapons-labs-in-ukraine/
Ding ding
or russia just simply always wanted a piece of that land
This is the question. Nobody gives a frick about Ukraine. But there is something in Ukraine that gets everyone in globohomosexual the death sentence. Now I have zero clue what, but my suspicion is that it's darker and more schizo than even pol suspects. This is a troubling thought. pol suspects a lot.
homie what’s the alternative? Let Russia gobble up this territory just for them to do the same to every other post Soviet c**try. Dictators aren’t likely to engage in moderation once they see its opposition is too pussy to intervene when it violates the borders of a sovereign nation. Quite frankly i want WW3 to kick off I need to experience urban combat and fighting a near peer adversary. Which Russia is not but maybe the chinks are.
>Let Russia gobble up this territory just for them to do the same to every other post Soviet c**try.
domino theory has been moronic since the 70s
Not rlly given russias track record. They’ve invaded Georgia, Ukraine and had no problem with getting into Chechnya which might as well have been a separate c**try.
Chechenya is an area inside Russia. Georgia and Ukraine have huge Russian population. Russia would never occupy a country where it actually needs to deploy massive number of troops for policing. I assume you're a glowie or dumb or both.
>”might as well have been a separate c**try”
>russias track record
they have had multiple chances to take europe throughout their history and have chosen not to; they already have as much land area as pluto for frick's sake- they don't want it
Chechnya is part of Russia and Georgia started that war (even the EU investigation drew the same conclusion).
And this literally happens Ayy lmaoo Russia did its invasion in 2014 Obama was a pussy and didn’t do shit and Putin was emboldened. What do you think Putins just gonna stop if he actually managed to successfully annex Ukraine in 3 days like his generals told him?
Kill every big nosed subhuman from both sides.
Also your mafia didn't shut this down.
Why should we we’ve killed hundred of thousands of Russians in a proxy war without a single American soldier being killed (excluding volunteers) that and we get to test out our gear from the 80’s and 90’s on Ivans and see just how much fricking better we are at making equipment than Russia.
> why kill the biggest, gayest and most annoying mafia of the planet?
7 years of this israeli spam and nothing happened.
Honestly maybe if we threw every favela monkey into Ukraine they’d probably take out all the Russians in a week
What was wrong with Ukraine prior to 2014 coup ? How is Ukraine better off now ?
It was a puppet state to Russia and all the lovely benefit that entails like not being able to democratically decide the direction of your country without the kremlin watching your every move.
Now Ukraine is a puppet state of the USA and has a war to boot. Zelensky cancelled the elections, so that's how democracy is going for them. I think Ukraine was better off prior to 2014.
Better a puppet under us is better than to Russia. Look at Western Europe, most of the anglosphere, most of Latin America etc. they live pretty well relative to most Soviet block countries that are puppets to Russia. That and Ukraine wants to defend itself and not join Russia. If they didn’t then there wouldn’t be fighting at the scale there is.
Ukraine is a corrupt war torn shithole, it is not like the rest of Europe. The refugees that fleed Ukraine vow to never return.
Yeah I’m sure that’s all well and good but if things turn out right Ukraine could actually come out pretty well from this war. Think South Korea level of development and economic growth. Their importance is also in the fact they supply much of the grain to Africa and the Middle East.
>think South Korea
So several decades of relatively unstable juntas?
No not really. Extreme economic growth fronted by a strong man to become one of the world’s largest economies. They managed to take a backwater shit hole that had a development similar to some Saharan Africans to one of the highest standards of living (aside from all the societal ills and muh depression) in the matter of two generations.
those were the days before the migrations of the people. now most of the South Korean population would have left the country and would not have spent several generations trying to keep it. Future of Ukraine is really become Arynian, populated by Indians
remember haiti?
Ukraine is bankrupt and 100% dependent on handouts from the EU, UK, and USA. None of the western economies can subsidize Ukraine's war effort for an extended period of time. Think Afghanistan. Ukraine, even if properly monetized and militarily equipped, lacks manpower period, but also trained manpower because they lost 31,000 soldiers x 15. Or 500,000
Very common Kremlin take Jesus might as well list their talk show pundits lmaoo. Afghanistan wasn’t a war between insurgents this is a conventional war that can be won eventually if enough aid is given. I don’t mind sending off more military vehicles from the 80’s to kill a couple hundred thousands more Russians.
*was
Another reason Ukraine will lose, is because of morons like you falling into a sunken cost fallacy. I hope you are one of the first dumb fricks drafted to go fight for that shit hole.
>they live pretty well relative to most Soviet block countries
post an average woman from western countries and a woman from "most Soviet block countries" and rethink your statement
>Look at Western Europe
western europe is solely carries itself by the people of european origin, once they are gone it's going to be turned into a shithole
anglosphere is slowly collapsing and it's natives are being replaced
latin america only has 2 somewhat decent nations everything else is pretty much shithole comparable to russia you hate so much
Complete nonsense.
> i want to experience that urban combat
I wholeheartedly wish you guys have that civil war 2.0 and kill each other off on your home soil that the rest of this globe has finally peace.
homie pay your 2% before you speak to me peasant. Your entire defense doctrine is literally asking daddy America for more globemasters lmaoo,
They could get by with 1% if you werent so desperate to plant trans flags in every corner of the planet.
>Rest of world have peace
>America only thing that stopped Europe from tearing itself apart since the Romans
Delusional, you guys are doomed and Anglo North America will continue to be the world's most peaceful continent
only thing that stopped Europe from tearing itself apart since the Romans
you're up your ass too much
Be quiet Cletus, you own even fewer history books than teeth
at least I have teeth, all yours are fake implants
I want experience TKD so c**ts like you don't chirp zogbot bullshit.
All the other postsovs are in the EU or NATO and the Ivans don't frick with that because more nukes. Ukraine is irrelevant. They've given us nothing but spite and irradiation as is, and that they now expect us to carry them through their war (that is not our business, because see - not in EU or NATO even though they had the Chance) is technically reason enough to cut them off wholesale.
>referring to anything in ukraine in relation to nato
they are not, and will never be in nato; anyone who brings nato up when discussing ukraine war is a blind repeater, which is sad even for an npc
Nah it's just reddit and a few other morons.
Any politician who tries sending our military into ukraine will be crucified.
"Frick the EU"
This is how you can always spot the Russian. Nobody in America knows who this is or gives a shit. Russians meanwhile, shit their shorts and lose their fricking minds. They're terrified of her.
It's about stopping Russia's expansionism not saving Ukraine moron
They're already the largest country in the entire world and are doomed to collapse beneath their own hubris because they believe the Soviet Union was a time to be alive. It's a self-solving problem in the long-term. Same with China.
I'd love to try a Russian world order over American world police.
During US hegemony of the last few decades, we had
1. war in Afghanistan
2. war in Iraq
3. ISIS being born in the chaos as a direct consequence of 1 and 2
4. Libya thrown into chaos after US helped murder Gaddhafi
5. Syrian civil war, where US supported anti-government rebels and so indirectly helped ISIS (which they also helped create)
6. migration wave into Europe from Syria and through Libya since 2015 as a direct consequence of 1-5
7. successful CIA coup in Ukraine and following war in Europe
8. unsuccessful (thank God) CIA coup in Belorussia, still bloody riots were incited
9. destruction of strategic EU infrastructure with the sabotage of Nord Stream
I'm supporting any side that opposes US and pushes their cancerous influence out of the Middle East and Europe.
That list is fricking angelic compared to that of any comparable global hegemon elsewhere in history. But I agree, we should let Europe be ruled by Russia and block their number when they beg us to come back
How far could Russia realistically expand if they struggle to get the tip of their wiener in Ukraine?
It's amazing how buglike the Baltics are in particular. Imagine living like this.
Can you explain the image? Are they acting like that's what will happen to Estonia if they don't fight against Russia?
Yep, unsigned billboards sprung all over Talinn. What's funny is that everything you see in the pictures got built by the Soviets.
>everything you see in the pictures got built by the Soviets.
Yes you didn’t have to state the obvious
I know, 50 years later and still sturdy and reliable.
Don't you guys leave a building bombed by NATO in Belgrade in disrepair because of how butthurt you guys are over the NATO bombing?
you mean something that really happened vs something that never happened?
Nah, it's the politicians all have dirty shit on them involving Ukraine so they're trying to gaslight the rest of us in to fighting a war over it rather than do the sensible and lock the entire lot of them up.
Don’t forget Songbird and Lindsay we’re also sucking on the teet.
There is WEF child sex tunnels under Ukraine. Its why globohomosexual world leaders are willing to usher in nuclear Armageddon before letting Ukraine fall
They also did this in Kosovo, they had organ extraction clinics set up immeditely.
I'll go fight the WW3 because I don't want to live anymore. Simple as.
>t. Russian Nazi gaslighted into believing that Putin will start WW3 so he doesn't get held accountable for his war crimes in Ukraine
they have to have a dream in this failing world and the strongest economy in the world being in decline. who cares if it is ukraine or some another distraction
yes we want to kill ziggers you can leave nato if youre scared burger
If russia, the largest nation on earth with relatively low pop for its size, with a lot of resources that needs to expand less than anyone else, gets away with it then everyone else will try.
Russia will want more.
China will start conquering places.
African and middle eastern borders will destabilize.
If saying, "but i nuke if i cant conquer my neighbor" works then every nation is going to pursue nuclear weapons and start acting like dictators.
So it is not just for Ukraine. The entire world will be different within a generation, and impossible to keep from having a nuclear world war anyways.
Ukraine isnt worth shit.
If you let Russia keep Ukraine you are doing exactly what the allies did in ww2 to avoid war. >Hey Hitler keep Austria but don't expand any more, we are serious.
You can't guarantee Russia will stop and if you let russia gobble up territory you are letting it become stronger.
>Hey Hitler keep Austria but don't expand any more, we are serious
non of your business. a country can decide to connect with another country.
more like: Hey Ukraine, it's me, Putin. dont expand your ties to EU and NATO any more, I'm serious.
>non of your business. a country can decide to connect with another country.
chose any country that didn't want to be part of Germany.
>Hey Ukraine, it's me, Putin. dont expand your ties to EU and NATO any more, I'm serious.
Ukraine can do whatever it pleases.
Ukraine can not do whatever it pleases. Ukraine is a puppet of the USA and can only do what the US government permits them to do.
doesn't /misc/ want WW3?
The West is trying to maintain a monopoly in finance. They see Russia, as an energy independent country with the largest nuclear potential, as the biggest threat to themselves. Now it's hysterical. After all, they planned a double blow, Ukraine was supposed to hit and the sanctions were supposed to destroy the economy, after which they could stage a coup and put their candidates. As a result, both strikes lost, the West has only losses. And the statements about NATO troops in Ukraine were another stupid attempt to scare the Russians, although on the contrary it is a red rag for the bull.
Russia will be remembered forever for being worse than the German Nazis. Russia threatens the world with nuclear annihilation every other week. Lying stealing and cheating are your national pastimes. Everywhere Russians go they turn the place into a shithole, just like your disinformation agency did when you started working here at /misc/. Of course the world prefers the American financial system because it's secure and fair. Your MIR crashed after only a few months because of all the corruption, back doors, Kremlin hacks and skimmers stealing people's money. I'll bet you thought the ruble was going to be the BRICS currency, right? China put an end to that. Other countries only do business with Russia for the cheap gas and oil, but China fricked you and made you take yuan and India fricked you and paid you in rupees because your rubles are fricking worthless. They only place in the world where Russians are actually welcome are dirt-poor African war-lord jungles that are worse shitholes than Russia, which are getting harder and harder to find. You did that. You earned it.
Russia under Yeltsin and the first 8 years of Putin made an honest good faith effort to be friends with the USA and the west. The USA and the west rejected them and thought Russia was more valuable as an enemy. Enjoy your enemy. It is interesting that the US empire appears poised to collapse just like the USSR did and will get to suffer the misery and hardship the Russians did during the 1990s. Maybe Russia will send their investment class to cannibalize what is left of the old ussa. Karma is a b***h. The best part is you are totally unaware.
i too eat discord Black person bullet points.
They don't believe that. They are out nothing but the citizens they hate anyway. Nothing stops what coming.
LET'S GOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
>hey if we side with communist russia we can win the war and everything will be peaceful after germany falls
>what the frick, tell stalin that we gave him cheap tanks and trucks, what the frick is going on?
>MUH WW3!!
>MUH NOOOOKS!!!
>MUH LAST PIDOR WARNING!!!!!