If I wanted to do pic rel, I can’t just take a tent and camp along the way, I have to go from hostel to hostel and sleep there every night?
Is that correct?
How much about is that in USD?
Euros plz explain camping there
If I wanted to do pic rel, I can’t just take a tent and camp along the way, I have to go from hostel to hostel and sleep there every night?
Is that correct?
How much about is that in USD?
Pretend to be a migrant and you can do what you please
this is something that fricking irritates me
>gypsies parking campers and doing whatever the frick they want, robbing people, being literal cancer, trash everywhere
this is fine
>Black folk literally shitting in the street in the cities
this is fine
>squatters breaking into citizens' actual fricking private property
this is fine because the woman is pregnant. you can't touch them or YOU get jailed
>tax-paying EU citizen pitches a tent being as careful and respectful as possible
HALT!!!! FORBIDDEN!!!! €500 FINE!!!!
That's why you pretend, anon.
Dig a little pit, get a cover and say you're bivouacking
Legal in France, the Swiss will rape you in fines
Europeans have no sense of freedom. The idea of just going out into the wilderness without any government safety net baffles them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam
Kys yourself, moron
Northern europe stays winning. Amerilards get shot on sight if they "trespass" on land that someone else "owns"
6,525,960 square kilometers is BLM land. That's without the parks. Do you have freedom to magdump 30 rounds as well as the space to do it?
Correction, 6,5mil square acres. moronic and put in the KMs instead.
Why do Americans hate private property?
A lot don't. There are those californian creature "men" who cannot afford to save due to bad city choices and lifestyle addictions though. They can't buy land becuase they chose to use time and effort to chase living in high rent zones because media convinced them that it was the high life. They get jealous of the sunk cost and get mad at some hick who just put away pennies and got some plot to be rent free on. That's my measure of it anyway. I hope there's some equiv in the Eurozone.
yes i can magdump as much as i want on my own property and have done so, the guy further down the valley complained his horses got stressed and since im not an butthole american i no longer do it even if its in my full right.
>all that land
and how many in usa live within a 5min drive from it or even inside it?
Blm, parks, all kinds of different entitites to keep track off, different rules, closed trails (lol just walk outside of it?), rangers, public campgrounds, literally park fee's...
yeah you have no clue how simple and great outdoors life is up here in the northern europe. if its undeveloped nature then im allowed to go there and that starts right outside my doorsteep and its more or less continous over several countries over borders you are free to cross as you want.
I mean I don't have a clue, All I know is that euros complain a lot. Scandis are okay when they move here to be less taxed. Also if it's outside your doorstep it's not undevelloped, it's infected.
Also if it's a right you don't use you've fricked up. How many live near it? Not sure, what's the population minus the cities and gay states. There are a lot of variant rules per state. 50 mini nations stitched together with a canada on top for everything you guys have but cleaner and less people.
no intention of going /misc/ here.
right i dont use? well i dont need to so why should i be an butthole. people rather go to the range for shooting so no one has ever thought about limiting shooting on private land. if i need to then frick the neighbour or i simply text him a notice first. im shooting anyway.
scandis moving to usa? literally never heard of except from when work dictates it and they always come back, its pretty hard to go from the comfy life here to the rat race there and also loose all healthcare and safety nets. the other way? if you only knew how many does this... taxes are a non issue for the average worker here and yes its much better to live in nature than visiting some cucked national park 10h drive away twice a year.
/misc/ is for homosexuals and trannies.
I'd wager more people live in nature in the USA just by the sheer volume of people to space ratio though. Cities are pretty bad. I don't have neighbours to even bother so it feels weird hearing someone claim to be in nature but still be close enough to annoy other people. Gotta disperse a little you know? Tiny nations and all. I get that. Space running out.
we ought to take over africa. We could use it for PrepHole purposes. If we bring /k/ with us we could easily take over the west and use PrepHole to build base camps. Imagine all the pepperoni pockets we could produce, the hiking paths, the memes.
In Switzerland you can bivouac in the mountains as long as you're above the tree line. Otherwise you'd be sleeping at the mountain huts (price is about 70CHF the night) which you can find and reserve here : https://www.sac-cas.ch/en/huts-and-tours/sac-route-portal/?altitude=3350%3B4650
Keep in mind they're full on weekends most of the time.
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You can find more of the rules on camping here (unfortunately they haven't translated this part of the website though).
https://www.sac-cas.ch/fr/environnement/sports-de-montagne-et-environnement/camper-et-bivouaquer/
From what I’ve ready, there is not very much of the route actually above tree line, most of it is up and back down passes, with the majority that is above tree line being fairly steep with no flat spots for a tent.
Luckly you can bivvy on a 45 degree slope.
I've hiked a faire amount in the alps in that region. Depending on the routes you take most of the hike can easily be done above the tree line. The best resource for planning the hike would be https://map.geo.admin.ch/ . You can easily highlight the hiking routes in the options.
As for flatness, it's really ok. You will always find flat places in the mountains, specially if you camp near mountain lakes or ponds.
I'm actually going to be doing the Chamonix-Zermatt hike starting next week, but I'll be staying in the mountain huts rather than camping out.
What sort of fine would you face if you get caught camping? Might be worth to chance it
I can't seem to find the precise number, but between 100-200 CHF I think.
So more than just sleeping in a mountain hut.
Although if you're smart about it, you won't get caught. Just stay out private property or ask if you can bivouac if you do. It's not like the police are patrolling the mountains and forests.