https://epa608app.com/studyguides/ITI_EPA608.pdf
>EPA pays $10,000 bounty for snitching on HVAC wagies that illegally vent refrigerant
FYI, you could make A LOT of money catching these guys. Like, millions.
https://epa608app.com/studyguides/ITI_EPA608.pdf
>EPA pays $10,000 bounty for snitching on HVAC wagies that illegally vent refrigerant
FYI, you could make A LOT of money catching these guys. Like, millions.
Or you could not be a communist.
In before OP's obvious bait hooks some ragie wagies
Bumping your own thread is lame
The EPA is one of many federal agencies that need to be disbanded.
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Some fun facts for you about the EPA's 608 enforcement:
>since 2010 only one HVAC company has actually been fined for venting refrigerant illegally
>the majority of fines are aimed at large corporations who violate the leak repair rules on commercial units
>the rest are theives or recyclers that deliberately vent refrigerant when scrapping.
>there are zero confirmed reports of anyone collecting a bounty from the EPA
There's really no 608 enforcement at the contractor level. The EPA is only interested in going after large companies with deep pockets. There's no money in going after HVAC companies that can't pay their fines. They want quick easy targets who won't spend the money and time to fight the fines and instead they negotiate a settlement. The EPA gets a nice payday and they get to act like they're enforcing the law.
Go ahead, call and report someone. I guarantee they won't even write down your info.
https://www.epa.gov/ozone-layer-protection/enforcement-actions-under-title-vi-clean-air-act#2022
>vent my own refrigerant
>call EPA on myself
>collect $10,000
>ignore fine
infinite money glitch irl?
This. And while theyre checking up on the refrigerant i can show them where i dump oil and coolant
This but do it after starting an LLC, snitch on LLC, LLC goes bankrupt, you make bucks.
delusional idiot.
do you know what it takes to get this? lets see here
>report suspected venting
>need to have some sort of proof
>EPA launches an investigation into said company
>send out investigator to monitor company
>waiting for any illegal activity to document
>could take a long time to actually catch them
>if and when they catch them, then the EPA has to file motions to take said company to court over the illegal venting
>EPA has to go thru the process of the court system to even get to trial which could take months or years
>EPA has to prove in court company violated the clean air act
>if and WHEN they win the case that probably took a year or 2 to get to court, then and only then they will pay your bounty, providing they get the results they are hoping for in the court case
Yeah... go ahead snitch... you MIGHT see a check in 2-3 years if you are lucky
moron.
Let me tell you what ACTUALLY happens:
>call and report suspected venting
>EPA asks who you're reporting
>enforcement office will tell you that they're not even going to write your info down for some hillbilly in a truck blowing the charge out of his house AC
>b-but muh $10,000 bounty
>bounty only gets paid if your tip leads to a fine AND they collect the fine
>most companies that get fined negotiate settlememts for less to get it over with
>sorry no bounty if they settle
They won't do shit unless you're reporting a major violator. Even then it's a government agency, they don't do anything fast.
tl:dr no one will ever collect a bounty
doesnt matter if its joe blow AC repair or mega conglomerate worth billions. they will not pay anything to you unless the company is convicted and the EPA wins. they can fine someone all they want just because they fine a company doesnt mean the company will pay.
its the same when you report someone for workmans comp fraud... you can get a 'reward' but only if the person is proven guilty and convicted in a court of law do you get your "snitch money". these motherfricker dont just write a check because YOU reported someone. its a very long process before you get anything.
is there any record of anyone actually getting the $20,000 fine for venting?
>is there any record of anyone actually getting the $20,000 fine for venting?
I haven't read the whole gay thread but google shows this
https://www.achrnews.com/articles/127297-man-gets-prison-time-for-venting-r-22
he was stealing peoples air conditions this is just some stupid bureaucrat adding to his sentence and patting himself on the back. Someone stealing an A/C or ref system should be executed in my opinion I dont care about the venting everyone knows its BS its all going to end up in the atmosphere eventually
One contractor a few years ago. All the other individuals who've been fined were theives that cut lines and blew charges.
Yeah it seems like they use the EPA fine as a way of piling charges on the theif.
You cannot resell recovered refrigerant to anyone else. The only time you're allowed to re-use recovered refrigerant is if you're putting it back into the unit you took it out of.
You are allowed to sell recovered refrigerant to recyclers. Most supply houses buy back used gas and send it to recyclers who purify the refrigerant. The recyclers are not allowed to sell recycled gas (yet) so they've been stockpiling it while waiting for the government to make it legal to sell.
There’s no way the second half of what you said is correct. You can def buy recycled refrigerant, there’s no other way to get shit like R22 anymore, that’s why it’s so expensive. Also, if you have some R22 it’s yours, you can do whatever you want with it as long as it’s not being vented.
Holy shit calm down lol. Who shit in your wheaties, homosexual?
>>EPA pays $10,000 bounty
they can pay UP TO $10K. As far as I know, noone has ever collected a bounty yet
The IRS supposedly pays a bounty for reporting people who aren't paying all their taxes. Good luck collecting that one too
Didn’t a whistleblower collect like 75 million dollars recently? Because you can get a percentage of the money they recovered? You’re probably only going to get the bounty for the epa though if you have like 1) evidence from working somewhere that intentionally violates the laws, like your boss sends you a text message that says “vent that whole system”
Or 2) you have a clear video of someone venting and then saying like “frick the epa, I’m venting”
I know plenty of scumbag hvac guys who constantly vent, you can more of less just stomp on a valve and if someone b***hes you say “oh look the line was damaged and it broke when I was working here”
Well, imma vent whatever is left of my old ass HVAC with a suppressed 45 to install a new one
Frick off.
Why would you vent refrigerant when capturing it normally lets you resell it at market price?
not my problem
>BRAAAAPP
The main people who violate the clean air act are tweakers, ignoring water cooler recoveries here rare but does happen.
if you want to catch someone violating the clean air act and you want to get money you will need an EPA license otherwise your claim will be low priority and likely dismissed, video evidence of the act, make sure your state allows you too film people without permission and here is the really difficult part be willing to be blacklisted by 90% of companies including Union companies
You realize all a homeowner has to do to defeat authorities is just not answer the door right? unless you have a swat team outside and they have a warrant to boot your door down they WILL eventually frick off
the epa doesn't do shit
I had some incredibly stupid friends in high school who would vent r22 into garbage bags so they could huff it. They called it “getting the Wawa’s” becasue when you were under the influence you would hear a pulsating sound in your head that sounded like “wawawawawawa.” Thankfully I was smart enough not to partake with them. I preferred marijuana and later coke and Molly in college.
you would abandon morals for material gain?