Do those moron EMP protection prepper boomers actually think those store bought trash cans and laminated fabrics can protect their electronics shit from a really powerful nuke discharge ?
I mean it kinda baffles me if you ask about it. How could one actually make a diy EMP protection that isn’t some mega stupid cope ?
I know you’re supposed to ground it and shit but like how many inches of metal would guarantee safety, supposing one actually makes a air tight lid after it ?
>inches of metal
your a idiot
>your a idiot
Op here Im not Anglo ya shitwad. I get my Imperials wrong all the time so just chill ok ?
You need kilometers of thickness to not get affected by the EMP
>You need kilometers of thickness
Research “Faraday Cage.”
Leave the stuff you want as backup disconnected from the grid and from your home wiring as well. EMP is not magic.
EMP damage relies on a magnetic pulse passing conductors (power lines). My backup PCs live in my steel shipping container shop which is besides being delightfully rugged and an acceptable fallout shelter (if you need a blast shelter fricking move where you don't or you're not serious) is a grounded Faraday cage.
Seriously ready humans have spare survival electrical items and electronic entertainment is really just wank. You'll be too busy to waste time gayming etc.
EMPs can still fry circuits that aren't connected to the grid. All the little wires and connectors in the circuit, even chips, act as little antennas and generate an emf in the rapidly changing field ruining the components.
If the backu[ equipment is inside a Faraday cage and not connected to grid EMP isn't going to induce shit. Atmospheric nuke tests did minor damage but weren't world ending.
If totally paranoid the wise choice is own nothing delicate required for survival. Not hard. EMP isnt going to frick my points on my motorcycles (and I've spares to convert my other HDs back to points handy) or my older trucks for which I also have spares. It's not reasonably likely to wreck ECUs but have those too (free thanks to the right jobs and bros).
Electricity should not be critical or you're doing it wrong but you should also be able to easily salvage all sorts of parts to fix everything you might need. I do as a matter of course and "prep" is incidental to saving frickloads of money.
Grid dies? I've a manual well pump, two spare new electric pumps + parts, generators and inverters and a backup well. I already place rain barrels beneath my eaves for washup when working outdoors and those can flush my toilets if needed. The trick to readiness is do all the little things wisely then readiness is incidental.
>Atmospheric nuke tests did minor damage but weren't world ending
Except that Soviet test where it blew out buried telephone line.
You should have your stuff in tins or cans.
Preferably your stuff in rubber or plastic inside of those.
If you can, put it in your basement and ground it.
>Except that Soviet test where it blew out buried telephone line.
That's not world ending. It's a magnetic field crossing a long line. The only serious "shielding" against magnetic fields is distance.
Solution, don't use or need long ass conductors. Electricity is a comfort item not a survival item and hardly worth the bother unless you've got everything else sorted but easy to manage. Have gensets, parts, toys etc disconnected from the grid in a shipping container etc then go live your life.
>I know you’re supposed to ground it
That is exactly what you don't want to do to your equipment if you want to protect it from an EMP.
>Do those moron EMP protection prepper boomers actually think those store bought trash cans and laminated fabrics can protect their electronics shit from a really powerful nuke discharge?
A double layer of copper mesh is sufficient. Have you ever seen people in Faraday cages under tesla coils and shit? It's not a matter of being solid, it's a matter of being conductive to the energy source.
>supposing one actually makes a air tight lid after it?
Lol. I know that public school teaches you a psychosis of how EM/electricity works, but no it's not a particle and making it airtight isn't going to make it non magnetizable.
>but no it's not a particle and making it airtight isn't going to make it non magnetizable.
I used the wrong wording. I was referring to the fact that if you leave a opening large enough the EM waves can get through and I’ve heard a fair amount of folks online saying it’s better to keep your “faraday cage” with as little opening as possible in the case of a frick huge nuke EMP attack
IT'S CALLED A FARADAY CAGE, moron.
You maybe need a 1/8th alluminum foil pouch to make your own. Literally so easy to line a box with it and forget about it. Don't be moronic.
Yes and no. The energy will be dissipated as heat, afterwards. Also most information on nuclear strikes indicates if it happens, there will be more than one warhead detonated in a given area. You need it not to melt and catch fire, after two EMPs.
If you're that close to a nuclear strike in the first place, you have bigger things to worry about.
When I first mentioned EMP attack I was referring to the type that is way high on the stratosphere that is specifically meant to just fry the grid and let the population go ape Black person mode so you can swoop in with your army at the end.
That type won’t ever happen. It makes zero strategic sense for a nation state. Smaller actors lack the capabilities.
Nah I'm good. My Vault Tech plan is up to date.
>IT'S CALLED A FARADAY CAGE, moron.
Yeah and a faraday cage can get fried with a high enough EMP blast. You can’t expect any paper thin shit to hold its own against a high enough blast
I wear a farady suit while bare handing 500kV power lines. Faraday cage works very well, you're a moronic Black person and I hope you waste time, energy and money preparing for the end of days only to die from obesity at 41.
>Faraday cage works very well, you're a moronic Black person and I hope you waste time, energy and money preparing for the end of days only to die from obesity at 41.
Triggered much ?
>high enough EMP blast
Despite what juggalos have to say on the topic, magnets aren't miracles. Even though a MRI can turn a wheelchair into a wheelsquare, the computers on the other side of that thin copper mesh are fine.
And no, an EMP blast isn't going to be strong enough to bend your favorite fapping chair.
Well, I guess then a thick grounded copper wire mesh can be enough to guarantee a SSD/HD/electronics stash stays functional in that scenario ?
You'll have much bigger problems than that. Like how how do you use those electronic devices again when you're already dead?
All you need is a metal box or conductive fabric with holes small enough to prevent your minimum electromagnetic wavelength from permeating. That mesh in the glass on your microwave door is what prevents you from getting microwaved when you look to see how your food is doing. Pic is a dude taking a lightning strike from a van de graaff generator while in a conductive bird cage. Electric current is flowing on the outside of the cage and not into the cage. You don't need anything more than a conductive box to protect against an EMP. You may be the moron boomer.
>your minimum electromagnetic
>what is the minimum wavelength of an emp
>what are evenescent waves
>what is skin penetration
back to EE 101 with you
>what are evenescent waves
>what is skin penetration
I don't think those things mean what you think they mean
what next, you accuse him of killing your father
My mom killed my dad in a murder suicide.
That's what I call the PrepHole spirit
>those moron EMP protection prepper boomers
>boomers
There's your problem. It was mostly an issue with first, fragile semiconductors of cold war era. Why do you think FCC and EC require immunity testing? After governments realized how much electronics there are in critical infrastructure they started pushing out standards so they don't loose half the country next time sun becomes bubbly. Unless you go for cheapest chinesium plastastic stuff that whines weirdly even when idle most stuff will withstand several kV spark to any accessible part.
Only extra care you might need is for "outgoing" ports. Because those are often designed to go out in a way that protects the device and anything connected to it (AC inlet fuses will blow, RF output protection diode might short, ethernet port TVS will blow), so either terminate those for storage or supplement with easily reset-able mechanism.