for poltards everything is a false flag and cover up. Once in a while the broken clock is right and they get something wrong. Like lets say, Bidens dementia, perversion (daughters diary) or corruption (hunter laptop) being deliberately silenced/mislead about for election purposes and then that fuels further continued moronation like flat earth or fake moon landings.
>Like lets say, Bidens dementia
There's nothing conspiratorial about an 80 y.o. being senile
The issue is your current politics pushing this type of men into positions on power(Trump is 76 too)
It's late USSR-tier when they had a succession of decrepit boomers who died in office 3 times in a row
>hunters laptop
Are polBlack folk still going on about a laptop that was dropped off at shop where the owner was blind, never had anyone sign any papers for handling the repair and mystery dropped off once everyone noticed these details
100% user error
They train people in 3months. They train them to fly helicopters. They train them to fly airplanes. The Osprey is its own beast. I guarantee you all the morons that crashed were doing maneuvers and transitions when they shouldn't have. It's a complex machine, and the people that are flying it are being trained wrong. Simple as.
V-22s aren't the safest, but they are still safer than basically all of the older generations of helicopters.
The US lost like 9000 helicopters in Vietnam remember.
At the end of the day war isn't safe, and while a higher than usual accident rate is not ideal, if it's in exchange for a unique capability it's worth it (within reason ofc).
11 June 1991 >The pilot suspected that he may have accidentally set the throttle lever the opposite direction to that intended, exacerbating the crash if not causing it
20 July 1992 >pre-production V-22 #4's right engine failed >Notable for being a very public crash >7 dead >Engine has added features to prevent an identical failure
8 April 2000 >At the time of the mishap, the V-22's flight operations rules restricted the Osprey to a descent rate of 800 feet per minute >the crew of the accident aircraft had descended at over twice this rate. >19 dead
11 December 2000 > A vibration-induced chafing from an adjacent wiring bundle caused a leak in the hydraulic line, which fed the primary side of the swashplate actuators to the right side rotor blade controls >4 dead >The wiring harnesses and hydraulic line routing in the nacelles were subsequently modified
March 2006 >Rose 6-7 feet while throttle was idle >no casualties but the aircraft was a loss >software modified to prevent another incident
2007 Osprey enters service
April 2010 >The loaded CV-22B was at its hovering capability limit, landing at night near Qalat (altitude approx. 5,000 feet) in brownout conditions, in turbulence due to the location in a gully. >1 dead, 16 injured
11 April 2012 >crashed near Agadir, Morocco >2 dead, 2 injured >Investigation could not find a mechanical flaw and human error was determined to be the cause
13 June 2012 >USAF CV-22 flying through the prop wash of another aircraft >5 injured >determined to be pilot error
May 2015 >dust intake to the right engine >2 dead, 20 injured >USMC recommended new air filters and a reduction in hover time in dusty conditions
13 December 2016 >Nighttime accident when blades cut the hose from a C-130 refueling plane >2 injured
5 August 2017 >USMC MV-22 after taking off from the USS Bonhomme Richard struck the USS Green Bay >3 dead
28 September 2017 >Non-combat hard landing in Syria >2 injured
All that matters is crashes per 100,000 flight hours, everything else cann be influenced by numbers in service, length of time in service ect.
The V-22 comes in at 40.31 crashes per 100,000 hours for it's total service life.
https://www.safety.af.mil/Portals/71/documents/Aviation/Aircraft%20Statistics/V-22.pdf
While the H-53 comes in at 13.29 crashes per 100,000 hours for it's total service life.
https://www.safety.af.mil/Portals/71/documents/Aviation/Aircraft%20Statistics/H-53.pdf
Anyone that says you aren't 3 times more likely to crash in a V-22 is ignorant or a shill, this have been your friendly facts anon.
That's not ALL that matters when the Osprey can't do the job the chopper it replaced did, so other helicopters are running more dangerous missions while the Osprey flies from airbase to airbase
>11 June 1991
moron mixed up his levers >20 July 1992
moron didn't match both rotor's speed >8 April 2000
moron tried to go into helicopter mode with no lift under their wings >11 December 2000
Mechanical failure, no human error >March 2006
moron gave too much lift to one engine in helicopter mode >April 2010
moron couldn't land it >11 April 2012
moron couldn't pilot it >13 June 2012
moron couldn't gauge wing distance >May 2015
Actual aircraft problem, free of human error >13 December 2016
moron couldn't keep the plane steady while refueling >28 September 2017
moron couldn't switch and control helicopter mode
Only two incidents of actual aircraft failure, the rest were human educed errors. It's a literal Darwin's Aircraft, where the smooth brains get filtered.
Depends, they aren't loud at all when flying like a plane but when they switch into helicopter mode they are deafening
Im not sure but I think it really depends on if the air is pointed near you or not. I saw one flying over Pease ANG base recently while i was on the highway. I couldn't hear it until it was flying away from me. I heard that they were loud sometimes but holy shit, at least you probably wont hear it clearly on approach.
can any burgers/muhreens comment on if USMCs aviation budget is almost always underfunded intentionally by the navy leading to cutbacks in maintenance?
I've seen that cited for why the AV-8A/B/C crashed more than other harrier species. inexperienced maintainers and the USN trying to strangle the harrier to stop the possibility of light carriers being funded instead of CVNs.
that's my dream, that's my nightmare
memes aside v22 are very safe and capable aircraft
>very safe
It's only crashed and killed how many people in the last twenty years?
Less per flight hour than everything else with wings.
What's with the resurgence of V-22 hate threads since Ukraine?
I thought this myth died out years ago.
Is it boomers or redditors that have brought it back?
one crashed like, 3 weeks ago
I liked when /misc/tards started a schizo theory that Osprey crash deaths are used to cover up NATO glowBlack folk dying in Mariupol
for poltards everything is a false flag and cover up. Once in a while the broken clock is right and they get something wrong. Like lets say, Bidens dementia, perversion (daughters diary) or corruption (hunter laptop) being deliberately silenced/mislead about for election purposes and then that fuels further continued moronation like flat earth or fake moon landings.
>Like lets say, Bidens dementia
There's nothing conspiratorial about an 80 y.o. being senile
The issue is your current politics pushing this type of men into positions on power(Trump is 76 too)
It's late USSR-tier when they had a succession of decrepit boomers who died in office 3 times in a row
>hunters laptop
Are polBlack folk still going on about a laptop that was dropped off at shop where the owner was blind, never had anyone sign any papers for handling the repair and mystery dropped off once everyone noticed these details
meds
Then how did I see his penis
You’re a fricking moron
100% user error
They train people in 3months. They train them to fly helicopters. They train them to fly airplanes. The Osprey is its own beast. I guarantee you all the morons that crashed were doing maneuvers and transitions when they shouldn't have. It's a complex machine, and the people that are flying it are being trained wrong. Simple as.
Maybe vatniks seething they have nothing that comes even close to V-22's capabilities?
no one would seethe about a trashcan
Capitalists still seething to this day.
Based nazi engineering
Obese moronic heliplane
Gay
real Gulag hours
If I had the cash It would fly again.
Vatniks are super moronic nowadays!
>V-22's capabilities?
If by capabilities you mean killing Muhreens, the Vatniks have plenty of unreliable, poorly maintained airframes that crash and kill people.
>myth
Blue pilled coolaide drinker.
newbies
sure. i ain't no crayon eater, so i should be safe, right?
Can seamen and Muhreens actually refuse to ride this thing?
>no Sergeant, I-I'll jj-just walk!
>have f-fun f-fflying y'all
Wasn't there an E6 refuse-to-fly strike in the last 2 yrs? Or different airframe?
you can refuse, but you'll be NJP'd and kicked out.
>statements that were never true
It's very cost effective.
You're more likely to die from a roll-over in a vehicle lol
V-22s aren't the safest, but they are still safer than basically all of the older generations of helicopters.
The US lost like 9000 helicopters in Vietnam remember.
At the end of the day war isn't safe, and while a higher than usual accident rate is not ideal, if it's in exchange for a unique capability it's worth it (within reason ofc).
Let's review every Osprey crash and hull-loss
11 June 1991
>The pilot suspected that he may have accidentally set the throttle lever the opposite direction to that intended, exacerbating the crash if not causing it
20 July 1992
>pre-production V-22 #4's right engine failed
>Notable for being a very public crash
>7 dead
>Engine has added features to prevent an identical failure
8 April 2000
>At the time of the mishap, the V-22's flight operations rules restricted the Osprey to a descent rate of 800 feet per minute
>the crew of the accident aircraft had descended at over twice this rate.
>19 dead
11 December 2000
> A vibration-induced chafing from an adjacent wiring bundle caused a leak in the hydraulic line, which fed the primary side of the swashplate actuators to the right side rotor blade controls
>4 dead
>The wiring harnesses and hydraulic line routing in the nacelles were subsequently modified
March 2006
>Rose 6-7 feet while throttle was idle
>no casualties but the aircraft was a loss
>software modified to prevent another incident
2007 Osprey enters service
April 2010
>The loaded CV-22B was at its hovering capability limit, landing at night near Qalat (altitude approx. 5,000 feet) in brownout conditions, in turbulence due to the location in a gully.
>1 dead, 16 injured
11 April 2012
>crashed near Agadir, Morocco
>2 dead, 2 injured
>Investigation could not find a mechanical flaw and human error was determined to be the cause
13 June 2012
>USAF CV-22 flying through the prop wash of another aircraft
>5 injured
>determined to be pilot error
May 2015
>dust intake to the right engine
>2 dead, 20 injured
>USMC recommended new air filters and a reduction in hover time in dusty conditions
13 December 2016
>Nighttime accident when blades cut the hose from a C-130 refueling plane
>2 injured
5 August 2017
>USMC MV-22 after taking off from the USS Bonhomme Richard struck the USS Green Bay
>3 dead
28 September 2017
>Non-combat hard landing in Syria
>2 injured
18 March 2022 & 8 June 2022
>Under investigation
now do every CH-53 crash and see the difference
>tl;dr
Just give the total, I'm a bottomline guy.
All that matters is crashes per 100,000 flight hours, everything else cann be influenced by numbers in service, length of time in service ect.
The V-22 comes in at 40.31 crashes per 100,000 hours for it's total service life.
https://www.safety.af.mil/Portals/71/documents/Aviation/Aircraft%20Statistics/V-22.pdf
While the H-53 comes in at 13.29 crashes per 100,000 hours for it's total service life.
https://www.safety.af.mil/Portals/71/documents/Aviation/Aircraft%20Statistics/H-53.pdf
Anyone that says you aren't 3 times more likely to crash in a V-22 is ignorant or a shill, this have been your friendly facts anon.
That's not ALL that matters when the Osprey can't do the job the chopper it replaced did, so other helicopters are running more dangerous missions while the Osprey flies from airbase to airbase
H-53 has a FAR higher fatal accident rate than the V-22. V-22 just has a ton of Class B and C mishaps versus the H-53.
Okay, now post the stats for the Chinook, Black Hawk, Sea Stallion, Sea King, or even fixed wing craft.
>>USMC MV-22 after taking off from the USS Bonhomme Richard struck the USS Green Bay
Lol how do you even do that?
, also Bonhomme Richard is cursed.
While Lotta human error here...
Whole*
>11 June 1991
moron mixed up his levers
>20 July 1992
moron didn't match both rotor's speed
>8 April 2000
moron tried to go into helicopter mode with no lift under their wings
>11 December 2000
Mechanical failure, no human error
>March 2006
moron gave too much lift to one engine in helicopter mode
>April 2010
moron couldn't land it
>11 April 2012
moron couldn't pilot it
>13 June 2012
moron couldn't gauge wing distance
>May 2015
Actual aircraft problem, free of human error
>13 December 2016
moron couldn't keep the plane steady while refueling
>28 September 2017
moron couldn't switch and control helicopter mode
Only two incidents of actual aircraft failure, the rest were human educed errors. It's a literal Darwin's Aircraft, where the smooth brains get filtered.
K I N O
That in Colorado Springs?
yeah
Totally kino bro! Just trust the xyience bro!
Did anyone get pasted?
>Just trust the xyience bro!
How to spot a /misc/troon foaming at the mouth while riding a dragon dildo.
B A S E D
Can't expect smooth brain to understand statistic
>Boeing
The same company that brought you the 737 Max
How loud are these things
Depends, they aren't loud at all when flying like a plane but when they switch into helicopter mode they are deafening
Fricking loud.
Im not sure but I think it really depends on if the air is pointed near you or not. I saw one flying over Pease ANG base recently while i was on the highway. I couldn't hear it until it was flying away from me. I heard that they were loud sometimes but holy shit, at least you probably wont hear it clearly on approach.
V-22 is very safe when they only STOL
V-22 crashes are almost always while trying to VTOL or hover
can any burgers/muhreens comment on if USMCs aviation budget is almost always underfunded intentionally by the navy leading to cutbacks in maintenance?
I've seen that cited for why the AV-8A/B/C crashed more than other harrier species. inexperienced maintainers and the USN trying to strangle the harrier to stop the possibility of light carriers being funded instead of CVNs.
>if USMCs aviation budget is almost always underfunded
seems to be from what i've read somewhere i don't remember
how many marines need to be sacrificed to appease the VTOLGODS?
What is this pic? Generation Kill Cosplay?
https://www.deviantart.com/chirinstock/art/Generation-Kill-16-359990334
female fick is cute but she doesn't have the homely charm of Pvt Ketchum
All of them.