>Dude if you don't carry a tricked out giant comped gun you're gonna get killed because some brain damaged, alcoholic ex SOF guy says so
People seriously believe this?
>Dude if you don't carry a tricked out giant comped gun you're gonna get killed because some brain damaged, alcoholic ex SOF guy says so
yes. in fact I have at least 4 of these on my person at any given time.
Smart move. Emypting a pistol's magazine and then reloading it is a poorgay cope and requires both hands. With four guns you can empty them both, then draw the other two. Effectively quadrupling your rate of fire before you do any reloading.
Anyone who makes any definitive statements on self defense beyond the obvious or that "x piece of gear" will get you killed is trying to sell you something. Carry what you think is enough. If you can't go to the Dollar General without being strapped like Arnie in "Commando?" Fine. If a .25 pocket pistol with no backup mags is enough? Fine.
Ah the "Drake of 99 Dragons" technique!
You appendix carry 4 guns? Badass bro
>appendix carry only
moron move
>t.
>there was a FIREFIGHT
Love me some 25 auto
Shut the frick up, Jim.
Nobody ever said that
Why were you mad enough to make a thread about this on a Friday afternoon? Go shoot guns or something, Jesus.
where did you see people say this? are you just wanting to b***h?
A youtuber who posts here every now and then, not going to shill his channel but it rhymes with ass pacts.
>A youtuber
these threads should warrant an instant IP ban, fricking have a nice day you noguns zoomer gay.
I agree. This
>someone on YouTube made a video I don't like
shit is cancer
You made a thread to whine about what a fricking C-list israelitetuber said?
He has no guns so he has to live vicariously through takes on youtubers
>People I've made up in my head say this!
Your thread sucks
Literally not even what was said in the video. You are making people up to get attention and yes I already watched the video, stay mad 😉
Holy fricking shit not only did you make a thread about a youtube israelite but he didn't even say what you got upset over him saying.
OP you should genuinely consider suicide, your autism is just too potent to bear, for yourself or anyone who interacts with you.
Brassfacts
>I'm just an autistic guy on the internet, don't take this as a prescription.
self aware at least.
Chuck Pressberg
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>I have the G42 for contact gunshots
>So basically the 42 on my ankle is like carrying a folded knife. For entangled close ground and pound stuff, jam that thing under somebody's jaw and volcano their head
>semi auto handgun
>contact shot
Is he actually moronic?
CONSOOOOOOOOOM
sneed
Bizarre video. He totally misunderstood the concept of an offensive handgun, which is guess is to be expected. I've never really heard of his takes but from this video my hopes are not very high. Buzz words galore
There was also that one mexican guy. I think it was the one with the "gun kata" or some shit.
Brass facts has never said this, he said if you are larping and think you need to take on guys with rifles/plate carriers/crack addicts who refuse to stop with chest shots then this makes sense. I don't agree with a lot of his videos but stop misinterpreting them.
The vast majority of situations can be resolved with three rounds and all you need is a g43/p365/g26/etc. but let people carry what they want, especially when it isn't moronic like a revolver from 1910 and maybe just overkill for the situations they'll encounter.
How ‘bout a revolver from 1917?
Yes
Or a revolver from 1910
What another man carries affects me in no. way at all. They can carry a Yosemite sam blackpowder single shot if they want.
I unironically hope you die in a car crash you worthless piece of shit, how mentally fricked do you have to be to get so mad at some nobody homosexual on the internet saying something you disagree with to the point you make a thread about it. I can only imagine how disappointed your single mom is.
>I unironically hope you die in a car crash you worthless piece of shit, how mentally fricked do you have to be to get so mad at some nobody homosexual on the internet saying something you disagree with to the point you make a thread about it.
the irony of your post makes me lmao considering you seem mad as hell
I have one of those. I also have a basic all metal DA with irons. Guess which one I carry.
I imagine the metal DA with ironspppp
Yeah, I don’t get trying to conceal a fricking usp sized pistol for defense. They knly make sense as a duty gun or as a legit sidearm, you can find ways to conceal them semi comfortably but why go through all that to hide a giant brick in your boxers when a little 380 will do you just fine? will carry way easier and won’t make you seem as autistic
I blame all the hysteria over active shooters along with guntubers grifting convincing you that you need a double stack compact with at least 15+1 plus a spare mag + tip everyday.
The scenario he throws out is batshit. How many mass shootings with multiple shooters armed with automatic weapons have happened in the US?
I misread this at first, thinking you were talking about a scenario where a mass shooter chose their loadout based on what some meme guntuber said. I chortled at the thought of them failing miserably.
Ass facts and Ho(mosexual)p are larpers, you are an autistic larper just like them if you listen to anything they say
Bro we get it you have no guns and get literally zero pussy
This. My Bersa Thunder is comfy to conceal and shoot
lights on carry guns are moronic
helps reduce muzzle rise, though, and makes certain guns look cooler
I saw an ex team 6 guy the other day that rigged up a tiny little light on his .22 magnum j frame that he pocket carries. Little fricker was even smaller than a tlr6 or tlr7. To me if you're gonna add anything to a carry gun, a light is a good choice, more important than night sights even since night sights alone do nothing to aid in positive target identification.
>positive target identification.
If I'm getting mugged I'm sure I'm not gonna have any trouble figuring out where the motherfricker is. lights on carry guns are silly.
I generally frick with brass but he lost me at 'reliability is not, in fact, priority #1 for the tool you must trust with your life.' He could have omitted this completely and addressed it when people begin to call out the notion of 2011s/race guns (and their usually finnicky nature) for carry.
>'yes 2011s are less reliable than glocks but your carry gun should be clean and well maintained.'
Instead he doubled down and tried to convince us a gun that doesn't go bang every time is a more effective killing machine than one that does. Pure moronation
well I'm glad we finally got an answer to "What is the only situation in which I'll ever use my CCW?"
I was worried I might have to use it
>walking innawoods at night
>walking around my house at night (interior or exterior)
>arriving at work early/leaving late
>in a dark parking garage or other public structure
>literally anywhere doing anything between the hours of 8pm-6am
Reliability and accuracy issues with all the comps I've seen. You can flatten recoil with proper grip if you don't have little b***h forearms. But by all means keep believing comps and magwells and triggers are justifiable shortcuts around getting training and putting real mileage on your gun
I mean top tier guys like Aaron Cowen don’t agree with you, there’s barrel porting that’s much more reliable than attaching a compensator
Buy if you can have a compensator/port barrel, why not? They’re not that hard to get running reliably. They’re much louder and have lot more muzzle blast but less muzzle rise is less muzzle rise
he probably doesn't really shoot, since he has the rookie misconception that optimization is a "crutch" and can't be stacked on top of good training to get even more out of your weapon
I like Aaron, but you're just playing whackamole with an overengineered solution. I believe in red dots and WMLs because they give me capabilities I physically cannot possess
>ability to illuminate the environment
>ability to see a much finer POI
I cannot lift/train my way to becoming a human flashlight, and I'm not even totally sold on pistols dots though I still run one.
Bill drills from concealment @12yards with a stock G19 + 509T in 3.6s flat earlier...checked my notes and today was the first time shooting pistol in exactly 3 months.
If your car is sitting in your driveway with less than half a tank of gas kys yourself. After what I consider basic/bare minimum upgrades, my time and money goes into lifting and training (primarily ammo).
Sure you can stack hardware but that's not true optimization, it's a temporary gain that will set you back should the setup change
>Sure you can stack hardware but that's not true optimization, it's a temporary gain that will set you back should the setup change
Genuinely cannot tell if you're actually moronic or just trying to get (you)s
I don’t really agree, if you’re shooting reactively the comp is a major benefit, you shoot, return to zero, shoot again. The comp, like a weapon light, makes the return to zero faster.
Your argument that the comp is bad is analogous to saying a guy shooting with a full steel pistol is a temporary gain. It’s equipment that makes it easier. Less muzzle rise is less muzzle rise. You can carry a ported or compensated carry gun, people buy them all the time.
>I cannot lift/train my way to becoming a human flashlight,
>2024
>his plates on his weight bench aren't made from uranium-235
NGMI
>But by all means keep believing comps and magwells and triggers are justifiable shortcuts around getting training and putting real mileage on your gun
>You can either train and shoot or have accessories, not both
Don't ever reply to me again you broke homosexual.
>by all means keep believing comps and magwells and triggers are justifiable shortcuts around getting training and putting real mileage on your gun
>Sure you can stack hardware but that's not true optimization, it's a temporary gain that will set you back
dunno what this trend is of people thinking that the confidentially ignorant luddite boomer mentality is something to strive for, but it sure does get tiresome gast
if it's that dark outside you should already have a light in your hand
True, but why would I settle for a compromised grip if I do have to draw, as somebody who actually shoots regularly I find that I do so a noticeably better with a solid two handed grip instead of one of those compromise flashlight grips.
>Use handheld light
>Decide you need to draw
>Drop light while drawing gun and turning on WML
>Now I can have my cake and eat it too
>I was worried I might have to use it
>walking innawoods at night
Why don’t you have a flashlight or headlamp? You’d use those anyways because they are handy and it’s silly to use your gun as a flashlight anytime you need light.
>walking around my house at night (interior or exterior)
Inside you have lights. What do you expect to hear, check out with your carry gun, and not know what’s there? Outside, sure.
>arriving at work early/leaving late
Street lights. Don’t pretend work somewhere that doesn’t have lights. Even rural outbuildings have lights.
>in a dark parking garage or other public structure
See above
If you want it fine, I don’t care. But personally I don’t see a scenario where I can’t see, don’t have other sources of light already, and need a gun. A HD weapon is different because you aren’t size constrained and 500 lumens is a tactical advantage with blinding them
>Inside you have lights
>all rooms have light switches near every door
anon p!ease try thinking before you post next time, this is embarrassing
If the light switches aren’t by doors where the hell are they?
How many fricking houses have you seen where there are switches for a room's lights at every doorway? Are people from alternate dimensions posting in here?
Pretty much all of them if you live in the US. Why would you not have it by a doorway or entrance to a room? Or are you being overly literal and mean if it’s not touching the doorframe it doesn’t count?
Why don’t you just answer my question? Why do you have light switches in the middle of your rooms?
>Houses where there are switches for a room's lights at every doorway
>"Pretty much all of them if you live in the US."
What
>Why do you have light switches in the middle of your rooms?
I’m honestly confused. Where are the light switches in your house? Why do you not have them by the entrance to a room?
I don’t even care about WML that much. I’m just confused on why you don’t have light switches immediately within arms reach in most your rooms. I’ve never seen a house where this isn’t the case.
>Why do you not have them by the entrance to a room?
Uhhhhh I do have them, but I don't have light switches by *every single* entrance, and I've never been in any house that does. To turn on the lights in my living room from my bedroom I have to cross to the other side of it, since the switch is by the kitchen entrance. How has every house you've been in had switches by every door? That's not common, or even safe once you hit a certain scale.
at this point I think he's just being a shitter, between acting like every room has a half dozen light switches and being confused why anyone would ever be in the dark outside
Unless you're doing a microCC a WML is not going to impact your gun in terms of size in any meaningful way unless you get into the larger options. What you need to be concerned with is the grip, anything else will need, at worst, moderate concessions/alterations made to your setup. This shit is CCing 101.
>Just flip the light switch bro
>There's street lights outside bro
>Even in the country people have barn lights bro
It's honestly hilarious how anti WML people are always the dumbest motherfrickers around. It's like you're talking to an AI or something. Any actual human whos been in houses before would realize that light switch placement can be wonky, that streetlights leave patches of darkness between them and can be irregularly placed or burnt out/broken/not present, if you'd ever driven on a country road at night you'd realize how little and poorly the typical barn light illuminates a whole yard. Have you been outside at night ever? Do you really think it's a good idea to bumble into a darkened room you heard a sound in and flip a light switch to see what's going on? Have you never actually been outside and found a shadowy area? I struggle to believe it
>If you want it fine, I don’t care
Just skipped reading that eh?
>houses before would realize that light switch placement can be wonky
When are you clearing rooms with your CC gun in the dark not in your own home where you already know the layout and light switch placement? please I want to hear where.
>that streetlights leave patches of darkness between them
Why are you in those spots so frequently AND worried about being startled by something but not startled so much you aren’t sure if it’s a threat. That’s such a niche it’s not worth considering to me.
>if you'd ever driven on a country road at night you'd realize how little and poorly the typical barn light illuminates a whole yard.
Damn I didn’t realize you had to illuminate a whole yard to see something. Again, why are you in the dark spot of your own yard getting spooked and only bringing your carry gun? You’re at home grab a fricking rifle like I already said. Or shine a flashlight out the door/window with gun in your hand and assess from there.
> Do you really think it's a good idea to bumble into a darkened room you heard a sound in and flip a light switch to see what's going on?
Do you really think creating strawman and then beating them makes your argument better?
Read above, you basically had the same points and my response mostly applies.
>particularly in areas like alleys where buttholes just so conveniently like to hang out.
Why the frick are you in that alley in the first place?
>Typically it's a single halogen at the entrance
Agreed. Which brings up my point of why are you not around the entrance or interior at night, investigating weird noises, with just your carry gun. If I hear something weird at night outside I’m not sure about, I’m not grabbing my carry pistol. I’m getting a bigger gun and trying to get light on it before I even step outside.
You’re both very defensive about something I clearly stated was my opinion. Why are you so defensive?
>there's plenty of lights
>okay when there isn't just stick by them, you have no reason to ever leave a light in a sparsely lit area right. why are you even in dark anyways?
dude are you even a human?
>why are you even in dark anyways
Why are you only in the dark with ONLY your CC pistol. You’re purposely ignoring words to frame an argument I didn’t make. But please, mention all the times you are in that scenario.
It's blowing my mind tbh, I'd think it was bait but enough people say the same shit that clearly some of them believe it
You don't have to point a WML at something to PID it in most situations actually. Ex umbrella or baseboard lighting and using its spill for PID(part of the reason high lumen count is desirable). Tbh You shouldn't be doing that even in an HD situation unless you're very sure you're going to be shooting anyways, just present to a low ready at the space between you and the area of concern and turn the light on. You won't actually be muzzling the target but getting on target is very fast. That being said it's inappropriate to unholster your firearm outside of your property to use a WML to investigate a sound. It's a gun with a light attached, not a light with a gun attached. Use a handheld for admin use, swap to the WML if you confirmed a threat.
They also used the squeeze grip style switches resulting in multiple NDs
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Spill pid is moronic. Just use a handheld for pid. You still have the wml for when you need to shoot and keep the target illuminated, can more effectively identify targets, and you aren't having to point a gun at everything.
>When are you ....
R E T A R D
I'm referring to how light switch placement in homes does not always allow one to illuminate an area before walking into it, for instance there are areas of my own home where this is the case and I have been in many other homes where this is the case. If anything I'd say it's more the norm than not.
>Why are you outside at night
Because I wanted to be, not everybody spends every waking moment in their mother's basement.
>Damn I didn’t realize you had to illuminate a whole yard to see something. Again, why are you in the dark spot of your own yard getting spooked
>Can't comprehend that a threat could be
In the yard outside of the lighting offered by the single bulb
>Can't comprehend that you might be in your own yard and notice something suspicious while having your CC gun on hand
>Pointing out the stupidity of the only alternative to a WML, the one you brought up of "just use the light switch" is a strawman
Lmao, there's actually no point in trying to communicate honestly with an individual who is this fricking moronic and disingenuous. Sterilize yourself.
>home
>yard
Which once again brings the question, why are you using your carry gun at home and not a dedicated HD gun which should be a long gun? Either way mounting a light no longer becomes a space or weight concern to anyone.
>It's honestly hilarious how anti WML people are always the dumbest motherfrickers around
At this point, with the reliability, compactness, affordability and brightness of WMLs these days, it's just contrarianism. Then again considering the outset of this thread, it's kind of expected.
I'm going to mirror what the other anon said in saying that this post you made is absolutely surreal because it doesn't just imply limited experience with even basic weapons handling but also with things like interior lighting and just being outside in general.
>Why don’t you have a flashlight
If you're in the woods at night chances are you do not have to worry about flagging other people, and if there's something you're concerned enough with to draw you're weapon you're going to want to have that up and going as soon as you can. Switching from a flashlight to a gun (which you won't be seeing anything with since...it doesn't have a light) is clunky, at best.
>headlamp
Abject memes unless they're the actual industrial ones which no one uses outside of worksites to begin with.
In either event there is literally nothing stopping you from pairing both a WMP and a regular handheld.
>Inside you have lights
And the switches to them aren't always accessible at any given moment, something which should be apparent to anyone who has...*ever* been inside a building interior with lighting.
>What do you expect to hear, check out with your carry gun, and not know what’s there?
This is literally what people have been doing since before you were born. If you're not capable enough to practice basic firearm safety and not shoot until you have a positive target ID, you shouldn't have a gun to begin with.
>Street lights. Don’t pretend work somewhere that doesn’t have lights.
Anyone who has been in even a dense urban area can tell you there's shitloads of areas where there is poor to no lighting, particularly in areas like alleys where buttholes just so conveniently like to hang out.
>Even rural outbuildings have lights.
Have you ever seen how your typical rural warehouse or barn is lit up? Typically it's a single halogen at the entrance that's encrusted with spiderwebs and on the verge of finally going out.
>If you're not capable enough to practice basic firearm safety and not shoot until you have a positive target ID
>jogging at night
>blinded by the light.mp3
>zoomer pointing gun at you
>"had to PID you man, you understand right?"
>goes home to make a thread on anime board
>pointing your gun at what's clearly a person jogging in what has to be an urban/suburban setting = pointing a gun at an unknown presence in your own home/out in the woods as was described
anti-WMLers and critical thinking go together like oil and water for some reaosn
the whole point of the greentext is that the zoomer doesn't know that anon is a jogger hence PID. you mentioned streetlights and urban areas so of course you weren't only referring to your home/woods and the greentext scenario wasn't in either of those locations. maybe you should exercise some critical thinking
nah you're just being an inteionally dumb gay if you think anon's telling you to point your glock at someone because you hear them running at night. frick off and/or post your carry piece, tard.
can you not be totally autistic and infer that there maybe other factors that could make someone believe that an approaching person is a threat when in fact they would just be jogging? the person who thinks they're a threat doesn't know that person's footsteps are part of a 'jog' or that they've been running for the past 10 minutes for example, someone runs towards you at night and in every scenario that's just a jogger?
>calls others autistic and unnuanced
>thinks pointing a gun at someone because they heard footsteps other than walking pace is realistic and reasonable and this si why you should never carry with a WML
post your cc piece, dipshit.
the greentext is a comical hypothetical used to point out a logical flaw, it's not meant to be realistic but an example of an acceptable scenario under the logic that's been laid out. it's comedy comes from the fact that it is unrealistic.
>that the zoomer doesn't know that anon is a jogger hence PID
In that same post you're trying to argue against I also say there's nothing stopping you pairing a WML with a regular carry light and pairing them up. The scenario you outlined is obnoxious and obtuse in any event. My point about exercising basic weapon safety is that when you have a handgun trained on someone (with or without a WLM) you don't shoot until you know what it is. At no point did I say you should muzzle flag everything with a pulse because you can't see.
you shouldn't flag something if you don't know what it is if you're acting defensively
If you're acting defensively you're not drawing that gun at all just because you heard someone jogging around you. That's not being defensive, that's ludicrous escalation from the outset instead of, say, taking alternative routes, making ready to draw your gun, and other things that you're taught in basic carry courses. You're being silly.
>If you're acting defensively you're not drawing that gun at all just because you heard someone jogging around you
that's exactly my point. I don't think what the zoomer did is right, which is why the greentext is making fun of him
I fail to understand how saying that people have been using handgun lights to check what they're about to potentially shoot for decades and that this is meant to go hand in hand with basic weapons safety equates to advocating for flagging every single possible person imaginable no matter what the situation is. Can you at least try to be genuine in your arguments?
I was responding to the point about urban areas. Can you at least try to be genuine because of course I wasn't talking about home defense and the like moron
>I was responding to the point about urban areas.
What, that they aren't consistently lit well? They aren't, this is objectively true. What are you even trying to debate here, anon?
so mentioning streetlights wasn't related to WMLs at all, ok
Okay I'm guessing you're just baiting now. Have a good Saturday.
Of course you mentioning the brightness of streetlights wasn't random, it was a response to a discussion of WMLs, presumably to point out how WMLs are necessary in urban environments because streetlights don't provide enough light. You're acting light me arguing against WMLs in this scenario is equivalent to saying that streetlights are plenty bright enough. Did I get that right?
>This is literally what people have been doing since before you were born. If you're not capable enough to practice basic firearm safety and not shoot until you have a positive target ID, you shouldn't have a gun to begin with.
They would have been doing that without WMLs. You’re hurting your own argument.
>Inside you have lights.
Not always accessible
>Street lights.
Not always present/working/sufficient
>'reliability is not, in fact, priority #1 for the tool you must trust with your life.'
In today's market, it's not a huge concern within reason. I'd be OK with a gun that has 1 malfunction in 500 rounds if it offers significant benefits over a gun with 1 in 10,000 round malfunctions. In reality, most carry guns have no need to worry about reliability with the bare minimum standard being worlds ahead of what they were a century ago. A gun that's 1% as reliable as a Glock is still going to run a magazine totally fine more often than not, and there's very few situations where any CC gun will even get through a full mag in real world use.
>a gun that doesn't go bang every time is a more effective killing machine than one that does.
I am not sure that is what he meant.
Generally, STI/Staccato worked out how to make 2011s reliable a while back. It was mostly a mag issue.
I dunno the other race guns but if you buy a Staccato today the main difference reliability-wise against a modern striker gun is that you have to clean the thing more often. I can't remember the last time I cleaned my M&P and it goes just fine, but if I don't clean my Staccato every 1,000 rounds or so I get stoppages.
That doesn't disqualify a 2011 as a carry gun on reliability grounds.
NTA but I agree with you that 2011s are reliable enough to be carry guns since Staccato has ironed the kinks out of their mag design. I think that brass facts' choice to create his own terminology for the comped 2011s and G19s was a dumbass idea, especially since the original offensive handgun weapon system project was literally to replace the custom-made 1911s that SOCOM personnel were using at the time. Feels like so many youtuber trends where they create a catchy label (or more likely co-opt) to shill for brand X or product Y.
Everyone knows there can only be one OHWS, and it was made over 20 years ago.
>Feels like so many youtuber trends where they create a catchy label (or more likely co-opt) to shill for brand X or product Y.
100% this
>you should probably have a full size handgun available
doesn't instruct people to go out and CONSOOOOOOM since most people watching such a video probably already have a full size handgun and a holster for it.
>night sights even since night sights alone do nothing to aid in positive target identification
>is that the threat let? let me brandish my weapon and point my gun at their direction
Agreed, but I don't care to explain why.
>nothing bad ever happens in the dark
they make small lights anon
>OMG MY FELLOW /K/TARDS CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS DUMB THING SOME LITERALLY WHO SAID ON THE INTERNET THAT TRIGGERED ME
yeah
>brassfacts said in video "don't take this video as a policy subscription, don't by xyz stick to what you got"
>Op
>Literally takes it at face value
Seriously. The whole video was just a topical discussion and presented as such from the get go. Whoever gets ass blasted by the simple existance of a topical discussion is weirdly insecure and probably has no agency in their life.
Imagine wanting a comp instead of needing one
Now that is sex
Would you trust your life to a buck twenty a round for maximum performance? I would
The only gun introduced in the last 15 years that actually looks cool. Oh, and the FK BRNO Field Pistol, too
Those back in stock? Wish they had higher production numbers
>put KKM etc. barrel and comp on glonk 21
>beef up springs (including mags, your slide is going sanic and will outrun)
>start working up nuclear .45 supers
There you go, .460 Rowland without the single supplier problem. The only thing the Rowland cartridge does that loading supers to 40k psi doesn't is stop you chambering it in a fricking antique.
Probably the MOST underrated handgun platform paired with the MOST underrated caliber.
way ahead of you
Are you a communist, do you want everyone to have bone stock guns? Gucci glock like tricked out cars or man-caves, they can be gay and fun...just like sex.
Well you're right about them being gay
Not everyone enjoys banality, so enjoy you stock Glock 19 with plastic sights, your silver Toyota Carolla, and your white walled apartment.
Enjoy your buttsex and AIDS lmao
Yeah, maybe, but at least I won't be unoriginal. I like to thinker with everything I own, like Tim “The Tool-Man” Taylor, but with way more male grunting.
If you dont carry like this that is how you'll get buttsex then AIDS from the neighborhood rapist.
>neighborhood rapist
damn, you should move somewhere that only has a town rapist
OP does not in fact own guns.
He also probably doesn’t carry.
you can own many guns OP, but yes, not carrying a ported red dot pistol will infact get you killed in the streets
I want a px4 so badly
I absolutely love these jokes. Don’t posting em.
Who are you?
I’m anon... And you are?
One of the few who owns a PX4 inox and occasionally posts it in /hg/
I was just wondering if James has seen them since I know he lurks /k/, I want him to see him tied up being tortured by Ernie for shilling CZ
I doubt it man. He probably has a lot of shit going on. PrepHole lurkers are different than normie lurkers.
I've interacted with him quite a bit, he usually is in the thread dedicated to his new video (if he didn't make the thread himself)
*Don’t stop
The comp is very tricky to get right, you pretty much have to be shooting 124 NATO spec for training, which is expensive. You also may or may not need to change recoil springs which is another hassle. Overall the cost benefit of the comp makes no sense.
>you pretty much have to be shooting 124 NATO spec for training, which is expensive
What? It's pretty much on par with 115gr.
>You also may or may not need to change recoil springs which is another hassle.
That's moronicly easy to do, and cheap.
>Overall the cost benefit of the comp makes no sense.
Only if you're oblivious.
Idk my friend has a comp about this size on his and it cannot cycle with 115s. I don't run comps on 9mm I'm not a limp wristed homosexual. The tradeoff for potential malfunction isn't worth it. I own multiple Glocks btw and shoot regularly.
You sound clueless.
I get 9mm +P+ FMJ for 25 cpr, Winchester Service Grade, its civilian M1152 (Army’s new load). Runs comps good and also is probably one of the more lethal FMJs with 440 ft lbs and a flat nose.
If you're too moronic to get a Glock to run with a comp you probably shouldn't be shooting guns, I'm dead serious.
>tripgay
Opinion disregarded
Nah, newer micros like the PMM and radian one tend to run with most common ammo unless it's super anemic. Some people run into issues but it's typically tolerance stacking on specific guns, something you'll see with any aftermarket barrels.
>T. Ramjet paypig, it's never coming off, shoots flatter than my sp01 now
I saw that Sam Hyde video too
I just want to let you know you're a homosexual OP
I carry a Tokarev as my carry piece. Never had any problems related to lacking all those gizmos.
You’re such a loser that muggers don’t see any value in targeting you
Seriously, what could a guy who has a tokarev as a carry gun carry that’s of value? Grocery store coupons? His EBT card?
Hey now, he might have some pretty nice stolen goods on him.
This anon is right,
It's to protect my bipping haul
I carry a Makarov, pistol is fine.
Literally everyone that isn't running a radian ramjet has issues with 115gr until they buy a $90 DPM or similar spring kit and tune it.
I have a Zev duty slide+barrel+comp on my Glock 17 gen 5, all OEM Glock parts in the slide and frame, and have zero issue firing 115gr out of it. Is this only an issue with Glock 19s?
why are people shooting 115gr and not higher power range ammo?
what benefit is there to training with a light recoiling ammo and now something more analogous to your defensive load?
I don't really agree with brass that 2011s and tricked out glonks are the new bare minimum for carry. But it's not a big deal, I will go on as usual.
Red dots and LED/IR lights yes but no not comps
Imagine those soft, milky white hands gripping your penis, bros.
you morons say this literally any time someone posts a pic of their hands holding a gun.
Cute hands
post butt
>brassfaccs here with another reason for you to drop $2000 on something that you'll shoot twice a year
that gun looks fine except the comp and the stippling and stupid mag baseplate
>He got this triggered over the brass facts video
Carry what you want it'll probably be fine. More shootable guns are more shootable although you do give up concealability and comfort of carry. Although frankly an RMR and microcomp on a G19 sized gun really doesn't add much and is a little easier than carrying a g17 sized gun, you don't HAVE to put on an xboxhuge comp and fullsize WML.
>hypothetically if you were assaulting a hostile position against dudes with armor, helmets, rifles...
Yeah, how about I don't. Although he wasn't wrong about guys just eating pistol rounds like candy and still somehow going on the offensive
I should comp my G26. It's not snappy as hell, but it'd be amazing if it shot as flat as my full sizes
Why is everyone in this thread assuming you have to always have a WML on your pistol? I take mine off when I carry most of the time and put it back on when at home or going to the range. Totally up to you. I don't think it'll get used a ton when actually shooting but why not have an x300 laying around? Worst case use it on a rifle/shotgun
“BRAIN DAMAGED ALCOHOLIC EX SOF”
is by far the greatest series of words to describe the mentally moronic, cannot achieve anything, reliant on taxpayers and government handouts, look at me I’m special, thank me for my service, degenerate zogbot frickheads.
This thread is actively killing my brain cells. If you don't want to have a WML, fine, but there's little to no downsides to having one these days and arguing otherwise is just doing it for the sake of arguing.
>little to no downsides
I think they're fine as a concept but anons in this thread saying you can use a WML to PID something in self-defense are wrong because doing so requires that your gun be pointed at something unknown (exceptions for home defense). obviously if you know what you're pointing your gun at is a threat, then it's useful to have a WML in some scenarios.
>saying you can use a WML to PID something in self-defense are wrong because doing so requires that your gun be pointed at something unknown (exceptions for home defense).
That’s my point that got lost on people and instead they are sperging that I said there aren’t dark places in the world.
It's cheaper than night sights
This, using a WML for PID or Admin is fricking moronic. I remember when the LAPD adopted WML they did a report about usage issues that got leaked on the internet. The stories were hilarious.
>Cop using his handgun in his shoulder and using the WML for light to write a ticket
>Another using his pistol with WML to direct traffic.
Well there is the added weight and bulk plus needing a custom holster to suit your gun/light combo. I'd say it's a bit much for a CC, perhaps rely on your phone light if you really need illumination. Of course there's little reason not to when you're OCing
>perhaps rely on your phone light if you really need illumination.
Equally moronic since it's low power and unwieldy. If you can afford a gun and a holster, you can afford at least a bare min light like a ProTac 1L-1AA for $40.
Well that goes without saying, a dedicated flashlight mogs the garbage most phones are attached with but being realistic I doubt most people keep a flashlight on them
I keep 3 flashlights on me at all times, 4 if you count a phone
No
the blood etched glock thirsts for more
If you carry a tricked out weapon for cc and wind up in court you’d be a fool to think it won’t be used against you by some commiehomosexual DA and prosecutor, then whatever ambulance chasing tort lawyer the “victim’s” family retains.
>many modifications to increase lethality
>anon was looking for an opportunity to take a life
Absolutely. It is not that it is a bad idea to have a capable handgun, but such capability is 100% something that will be used against you. As shitty as it is, caliber, model, modifications, and training are all factors that prosecutors WILL use against you. I think that ppl should have handguns that suit their needs and capabilities, but that comes with the understanding that the application of such handguns will be defensive not offensive, as the video explicitly contradicts. Offensive handguns for civilian use is moronic, unless you are intending to use the handgun for the exact opposite scenario that most civilians use them. A prosecutor's wet dream.
it's also funny in the context of how many studies have shown that the odds of a gun fight being beyond 10 yards or requiring more than a couple rounds are incredibly slim. And none of the people
>but yeah what about the 0.1% chance I get into a gun fight that's not the statistical norm!
have zero autism for vehicle safety and defensive driving, which you're many times more likely to die in a car crash than to violent crime.
The real min-max solution is to by an LCP and then save your money and increase your income until you can buy a Volvo.
>Dumbest thread up on /k/ manages to find way to get more moronic
No shit the prosecutor will use that against you moron, it's his job to work with anything. But you shouldn't be concerned at all because the makeup of your gun has absolutely zero bearing on the case and you cannot find one single instance of it being used to reach a conviction against the person who shot in a DGU.
>But you shouldn't be concerned at all because the makeup of your gun has absolutely zero bearing on the case
This is peak moron
unless your case was videod, is basically all going to be hearsay and who knows how reliable witnesses. If you have a tricked out gun it's easier to sell as story that you were out looking to cause trouble to satisfy your blood lust.
Post a single instance of the prosecution getting a win on that. Go ahead, dipshit.
A reminder anon that this post will be thoroughly ignored as nobody in the history of this board has ever produced an example
guess what moron, juries don't write up their reasonings like that and even if they did, the whole point is bias, they might not even consciously decide on that, but still be influenced by it.
it was literally used in the Harold Fisch case, George Zimmerman, Kyle Rittenhouse, etc.
>Harold Fisch
destroyed in appeals and not the determining factor in the overturned conviction, why are you homosexuals so predictable?
moron, you ask for a case where the prosecutors win based on the factors I listed, and I provided. The fact that the case is overturned does not ameliorate the fact that Fish (not Fisch, moron) served time due to an erroneous argument. That is the point of what I was saying, not that the arguments are valid but they are valid enough to get your ass sent to prison. Winning an appeal might be a silver lining, but prison is prison.
you're a fricking idiot, Fisch was not found guilty because of what his gun was but by the judge fricking him and the prosecutor straight up lying and manipulating evidence. i must have had this debate ten times here with dipshits like you, and you all operate under the same assumption that Fisch using 10mm was what got him canned and not a judge being moronic and a prosecutor being so skeevy that he only got out of being disbarred through connections. so no, you haven't provided a SINGLE INSTANCE of a gun being accessorized leading to a conviction, because NO SUCH THING exists.
>where the prosecutors win based on the factors I listed
That isn't how the Fish case went. I'll provide the same C&P I always do when this comes up;
Please elaborate on why it was his use of 10mm they resulted in initial conviction, and not the
>statements he first gave to cops without a lawyer present
>judge blocking evidence that showed a violent history by the attacker
>judged allowed speculative evidence by the prosecution but not the defense
>prosecutor nearly disbarred for his actions
When
>the prosecution presented testimony from a forensic expert that the angle of entry of the bullets into Kuenzli’s body showed the wounds were defensive. One of the bullets pierced Kuenzli’s hand and arm before striking his chest, the expert said, indicating he had a hand raised in self-defense, and, therefore, that Fish was not acting in self-defense. Fish’s attorneys had sought to bar the testimony as speculative, but the judge permitted the testimony. On the other hand, the judge barred the defense from presenting the testimony of a defense investigator who had examined the crime scene and the path taken by Kuenzli and would have testified that the evidence showed Kuenzli was aggressively moving toward Fish.
>Harold Fisch
Irrelevant, it was overturned and his caliber wasn't what got his guilty verdict.
>George Zimmerman, Kyle Rittenhouse
Did not receive guilty verdicts so not sure why you brought them up when anon said to provide instances where a "tac'd out" gun being used defensively got the shooter convicted.
>Did not receive guilty verdicts
He said that it wouldn't be allowed in court, I was pointing out examples where it was clearly used in court and allowed by a judge.
nta but that case was so fricking dodgy that not only did the appeals court throw it in the trash but it literally resulted in the law pulling a 180 and making it so the prosecution had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a DGU *isn't* done in credible defense rather than the defense having to prove the DGU *was* done in credible defense.
Oh all 3 cases where they were found not guilty? Zimzam had a basic b***h PF9 and Rittenhouse was a bone stock AR. You aren’t even following your own rules.
>If you have a tricked out gun it's easier to sell as story that you were out looking to cause trouble to satisfy your blood lust.
that's a fricking stretch and I think you know it, no judge would allow that into consideration
>Calling me a moron for stating obvious facts
Ok here you go, moron
Caliber: Harold Fish v. State of Arizona, conviction based on use of 10mm "overkill ammunition," overturned
Model: ASTC: "Will it Hurt Me in Court?" Study
Modification: Luis Alvarez v. United States, Conviction. Wayne Partridge v. State Farm, Conviction
Training: Coney v. United States & Briley v. United States.
This fuddlore again. Show me this happening once. Just once.
>inb4 Harold Fish
If you cite fish you’ll prove you no nothing about they case while it’s also not applying to what you first said
Opening and going through this thread was a fricking mistake I think I'm actually dumber now...
This board will never stop having an endless quantity of homosexuals willing to get mad about things nobody ever said and people willing to participate in arguing with them about it anyway.
Dead internet is real
Whats my best choice for a beretta 92 platform pistol that has a rail? I would like to shoot it mostly suppressed and not sure if I should get one with threaded barrel or buy an aftermarket barrel for whatever model would be the best.
M9A4. The 92XI SAO tactical also comes threaded with suppressor height sights. If you’re going to be shooting suppressed, you might as well buy it threaded.
For me, it's the hellcat with a TLR 6 and a tiny CT rad micro pro dot