Recently Russian combat robotic platforms with AGS-17 automatic grenade launchers were seen on the Avdiivka front and then promply destroyed via FPS drone after becoming inmobile/inoperable:https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1774059714051018923
How effective do you think ground based robot combat platforms are in the face of the emergence of FPV drone tech?
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The British now posses the robot wunderwaffe
The Brazilians have the best fighting robot and it's not even close
get fricked c**t have you even seen season 4?
the australians have the best bot, AND IT WHIPPED YOUR BRAZILIAN MOLE-BOT'S ASS
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIIIIIIIIE
sovl
sovless
condensed macaco autism, imagine using that against people
Oh, don't use it on people, Russians however are fair game
Sort of like that old 80's or 90's movie Screamers with the anti-personnel circular saw bots, but I would like to see ED-209 get his redemption
>Ruskies develop their own Sir Killalot
>The world can only sit by, and watch in horror as he puts Zelenskyy in The Pit
we can't let those pinko commies get a hold of his blueprints
It's time we sent him in boys.
I always wished that show didn't have those lame safety restrictions. whole thing became a snore when the meta devolved every machine into glorified burger flippers.
maybe now that drones are serious business we'll see some real no holds barred competitions with practical designs and actual firearms
>when the meta devolved every machine into glorified burger flippers.
You missed the more recent seasons where everything devolved into vertical drum/fidget spinners
there hasn't been a ground platform that's impressed me yet.
I'll be sure to report this to the engineers
That's because you have only seen them improvised by poor nations.
They will get a lot better and giving a platoon the ability to setup MGs without worrying about them getting cut off offers a lot of options.
You wouldn't leave two men on their own on the hill across the valley but you can leave one of these there and not give a frick if it's lost / captured.
you can even rig it to blow and/or just suicide bomb with it like they both do with quads
armored warfare is obsolete
future is drones
that simple
so the gore videos are working then?
More cuts than a Liam Neeson action scene.
>ground platform
>they're in the exact same spots as the other screenshot with a different drone UI
these drove out into the field and then unceremoniously broke and never moved again, didn't they?
Place there as exchange for the Storm Shadow.
The uploader said they weren't moving when they were found but were droned anyway to make sure they couldn't be recovered.
Probably ran out of ammo / jammed and the operator had bigger issues at that point.
I don't think there was ever going to be any doubt these would be complete fricking garbage was there?
>Vatnikbot 9000
>Soon!
New systems rushed into service by the west have issues that need to be fixed in later revisions, I'm amazed Russian systems rushed into service work at all.
No including insanity from Bongolia and zee Germans in WW2, which ones in particular?
Just that when I was in the military for 12 years there was nothing rushed through and barely fricking any of it was even new sometimes. What was 'new' usually ended up in a lot of hands fiddling with it to make sure it would at least work well enough that it wasn't a waste of space on our logistics
NTA, and checked.
A pretty obvious one was the MRAP, which was part of an urgent operational needs statement, or UONS. It was not a program of record and had no standard spec or maintenance schedule, and depending on if you got one from GDLS or Osh Kosh you might have totally different power plants. Just an example. As you say, we don't rush too many things.
You can sort of understand though that the Americans needed a PMV real quick though, a lot of guys were still rolling around in Hummers with hillbilly armour and hoping to god there wasn't a mine or IED anywhere. Even despite being a rush-job, it had been in some kind of prototype and development for 3 years prior to its introduction and used a lot of off the shelf important bits that just had to be integrated into the chassis one way or another.
I ended up in a Bushmaster for a while as my new thing, but even it had been in production for nearly ten years by the time it ever arrived.
MRAPs where rushed, at least in the design phase. That doesn't mean your unit got them fast but by modern procurement standards it was quick.
I don't really have a favored side in this stupid war but the look on Putin's face there is pretty priceless.
I never forget the look on Putin’s face watching this sad clown-tier scam. It’s like Russia keeps announcing science and technology development programs but I guess this is what you get after you go through all the required levels of graft and theft.
It's not just the corruption but the brain drain.
>be Russian engineer
>earn ~$42k in Russia
>leave for the west
>earn $100k+
Good engineers don't stay in Russia because that $42k is enough for them to get out.
Well worse than salary is the point you get $42k + Russia instead $42k + a better place.
Better place being the one where you cant refuse your child being mandatory sex changed?
lmao whats with the b***hing from the /misc/cels these past 3 days
Yeah, R&D is a fickle thing that needs a lot of focus on what's practical and useful first before even bothering with prototypes or god help your third world, busted arsehole industrial sector can theoretically even consider producing for something not approaching a solid gold plated rolls royce.
That's sort of were the T-14 came unstuck.
I've heard anecdotally they spent $300billion on that thing, no one wanted it for export and the local Russians didn't want it either because it was incredibly expensive. The F-35, the gloriously fricking crazy expensive piece of madness it is, that cost quite a bit to develop- but they did load-share so to speak by getting friendly allied countries to chip in on the costs and components to spread it around. Then once it was all done and dusted, the price would be reasonable enough to buy.
So thats a pretty great lesson in terms of everyone getting something through a little bit of co-operation during the most difficult stages of development.
Same with things like the Loyal Wingman program, that shits expensive enough that they won't really want to fund it in the US budget fully, but places like Boeing Australia will carry a lot of the cost and also find a use for the systems under development.
I get your point with the T-14 / F-35 but Russia isn't in the geopolitical position to do that because the nations that buy Russian are poor.
They can't have expensive high tech kit if they plan to export, they need to learn from the other extreme of US exports and shit out the F-16 forever.
Staying in your lane for the Low-Mid tier arms industry stuff is sort of a double edged sword.
You always have the poors who are going to need to run over people in a T-72, but if they can get away with doing it in a cheaper T-55 they're not adverse to doing that either! But its really knobbed the local MIC to the point none of them make any money, its a hard sell pumping out parts and spares for old planes and shitboxes when the market is still pretty competitive out there with a lot of other places that will probably sell you something a bit better for avoiding the hassle of low-end, old shitboxes needing endless fixing.
China, France, UK and a few others will be in the same market and none of them are exactly terrible at weapons design and production if the US isn't your friend enough to sling you some mil-surp
Therein lies the problem, when you aim high, it costs high and your traditional customers are priced out for the most part, if you sell directly into Russia from the local production, they just can't make any money on these things. They end up selling them for less than it costs to make and will never recoup the dev-costs.
But you kinda... kinda can't say no to these people because bad things happen
I think Russia painted themselves into a corner over the last 30 decades.
They don't have poor customers because their stuff is cheap, they have poor customers because everyone with money sees them constantly threatening the west and doesn't want to end up having to sanction the nation that makes all their spare parts and ammo.
They could produce something as good as the F-35 and half the price tomorrow and still not get sales because they keep threatening NATO memebers so no NATO member is going to buy it.
If they actually want to have a decent MIC they need to learn from France and Germany.
>don't threaten potential customers
>don't threaten allies of potential customers
>don't steal aircraft from 3rd party nations when you start a war
Putin did a great job of starting to unfrick Russia in the 90s and by the 00s it was looking like they could be just another nation rather than a potential enemy.
Then he has to start annexing everyone that wasn't in NATO and people got worried. Now he's started the biggest European war since WW2 and no one is going to trust Russia until all current senior politicians / military leaders are replaced.
>30 decades
fug, 3 decades but also, yeah 30 decades.
>Well it all started in 842 when Poland started events that would lead to WW2
But yeah, no one wants to jump through the hoops of bullshit of buying things from Russia, apart from it being kind of nasty at the low end, sometimes it just doesn't turn up!
Like early in the war when Kherson was being pressured, they found about 30 T-90M's that were going to India and they just didn't make it because essentially they just fired them over and hi-ho away we fricking go boys!
There's no ammo
Like if you want Soviet era ammo or god help you, something like an S300 missile, any of their AA-missiles: Its just nope, none, nada nothing for sale
Same with parts, none of that and I think most people learned their lesson from the now infamous support and spares for Mig-29's that you'd have to be barking insane to ever buy big ticket items to defend you country with. Like Malaysia used to fire 1-2 of theirs up once a year for operational practice with other nations, but they were at best door stops for the other 364 days
I don't see any further development or sales for them again for a very long time. They shut down the stock market so no one can invest and that just sort of means they're stuck on the financial island of Russia that if they have to. They will roll up with trucks, men in balaclavas and convince you succinctly to give them that stuff in your inventory
Even now India is having issues with them, the S-400s they were supposed to receive this year got delayed by two years.
India should be feeling very worried about critical military assets being on paper only at this point.
I know their base reliance and imports of systems from Russia has started shrinking pretty rapidly and they'll be scurrying around trying to get anything they can. Problem with India was they always tried to ride both sides of the fence to the point there wasn't much western weapons because of the ties to Russia, then they're making bank on cheap oil which may at some point get turned off in the future if they don't want to play with sanctions. They're in a good position and ties to break with Russia, they want western investment then they'll need to play by western rules and friends.
Even before the war, Russia was unable to properly make parts and service the helos, planes and tanks they sold to other countries.
Remember how they tried to scam Argelia?
The West is still in the last stages of a shopping spree around the world trying to get soviet leftovers for Ukraine in exchange for newer western stuff, even dealing with moronic idiot countries:
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/colombia_refuses_300_million_us_deal_on_mi_17_helicopters_for_ukraine-9998.html
Colombia would agree to a much worse deal than that if they didn't have a fricking communist drug dealer terrorist as president. He's part of the same organization of post-Cold War marxist parties that cover and are aligned with Cuba and Venezuela, same one Evo Morales is a part of. Russia and the chinks are their backers.
The cold war era bullshit in south America goes real deep. Columbia is absolutely mad not to take up that offer and Ecuador was just as bonkers for not doing a trade adjustment with other nations to make sure they're not at the behest of the Moscow Monke
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240219-ecuador-backtracks-on-plan-to-send-weapons-to-ukraine
I don't really want to spend any more time shitting on south American countries because they're perfectly capable of doing that themselves on most days ending in Y
How can you blame these communist scum when the cold war bullshit goes all the way to the top with Putin and King Chink over in China?
This whole fricking mess is a Cold War nostalgia trip taken too far.
All the communist israelite scientists that sold the USSR American technology are all mostly dead, so they can't really build anything competent anymore.
Is that Doomwiener?
When they are going to deploy the real thing?
wunderwaffen defeated
>1st drone withstands 2 FPV's barely worse for wear
>2nd drone takes one hit and immediately ceases to exist
What's the difference?
testing what payload is necessary to wipe them i'm guessing
tried an anti-personel grenade
and then something meatier for low/mid-sized vehicles
or possibly theyre rigged to blow for suicide bombing or to prevent recovery and the quad hit that charge
>What's the difference?
These things are armed with grenade launchers so i'm assuming the second one still had quite a bit of ammo in it.
is that another of those chinese buggys at 0:40 bottom left?
>the little russian flag
>computer chips get armor
>mobiks dont
I just cant anymore
A lot of washing machines died to provide those chips, of course they're more valuable than mobiks
Shit it's the same place as webm related.
What tank is that in the bottom left?
bmp-3
Why are they sitting in a golf cart parked in the middle of a field? Its not the fricking Bakhmut Open
Strangely I feel bad for little robot fellas in contrast to TZD. They did not have a choice!
>Strangely I feel bad for little robot fellas in contrast to TZD. They did not have a choice!
Robots are innocent, like kittens, but with explosives.
Does anybody know what exact drone this is? Are they just remote controlled?
I won't lie, robots killing robots are pretty fricking cool. How easy is it to jam those anyway? Could be pretty useful if they used cables as opposed to flyers.
>“Nothing human makes it out of the battlefield” (Nic/k/ Land)
>Nic/k/ Land
Come on anon, we aren't THAT schizophrenic.
It just a question of time.
>When the Over-God raised Ja’aab up, it was said, he had been instantly emptied of all cruelty, and all pity. The revolution was made in perfect sanity, klaii Ja’aab. Whatever conformed to necessity was upheld. Whatever opposed it was obliterated. The work was done, without prejudice, or qualm. “If every second Pralh has to die, in order for those left to become the instrument assigned to me, the holocaust will have been a blessing unto the people,” Ja’aab said. These words were carved upon monuments throughout the Pralh hinterland, as if they were the lyrics of paternal love. In actuality, consolidation of the Universal Pralh Nation required no greater severity than a general decimation. Less than a billion had to die, to lay the foundations for popular discipline. Henceforth, there would be assent. The Pralh had been re-made for war.
>How effective do you think ground based robot combat platforms are in the face of the emergence of FPV drone tech?
can only work with heavy armor akin to a tank. Otherwise, you just got a shittier, more expensive alternative to regular infantry that's just as easy, if not more so, to destroy.
>More expensive
Look at this way. The government approaches working-age citizen, "Citizen, we must draft you for the great conflict. You can either report in person, or contribute enough industrial output to produce a requisite battle strength of combat machinery." Which do you think most people would prefer? How many battle-bots could an army of millions produce if it meant not having to be Mobik'd themselves? The big issue is how much this stuff is tech-gated, which makes it very difficult to scale.
These things are directed by laser pointer, which means off-screen, there's a mobik desperately waving a laser and smacking his control like trying to get the thing to move out of the way.
lol at the propagandist dude smacking his head at 17:56.
>robot combat platforms
They're the same drones, just moving on the ground.
Finally, drones are avenged
Drone wars make perfect sense and will only get more kino.