He invented mashed potatoes. He was also the first Black Sailor in the USN to have killed the enemy with his penis after mistaking a Japenese sapper with a satchel of explosives for a geisha with a ozashiki kago after drinking saki. MPs were alerted to screams outside their base to find Miller on to of the enemy, attacking with "black bayonet" as Miller put it. The soldier was taken to the base where he was pronounced dead from internal bleeding, shock, and profound shame. Miller was awarded the Navy Cross for "defending his fellow sailors with the only weapon he was capable to employ."
>check
Ah the guy with balls of steel during the Japanese attack on pearl harbor. Not sure I would name a carrier after him but he's still worthy of recognition.
>balls of steel! While other guys were trapped below decks drowning, le hecking Black person was shooting a 50 cal blind lit (probably straffing other ships/sailors) to make absolutely no impact whatsoever!
I would rather have the carrier named after MC Hammer
>manned an anti air gun with no training
All Navy men are trained, anon. Semper paratus
No one deserves a carrier named after them, the US habit of naming ships after people is honestly lame as frick. A rule needs to be established that if a ship is going to carry a notable figure's name then that person needs to have been dead for 200 years; if we still want to name shit after them 200 years later then that establishes their notability with certainty, rather than naming everything after the flavor of the month.
Bring back cool names like animals or battles or ancient gods or states or philosophical concepts or what the frick ever. Stop using people names.
>No one deserves a carrier named after them
carrier classes started being named for people after JFK got domed by the Illuminati, the theory being that a capital ship like a supercarrier should bear the name of a person that commanded many others, a pater familias of sorts.
Doris Miller a real one to be sure, but IDK if he should get a CVN. an LHD or other fast attack ship, sure. An actual littoral combat ship if the USN could unfrick itself long enough to build some. y4h8
>manned an anti air gun with no training
All Navy men are trained, anon. Semper paratus
[...] >No one deserves a carrier named after them
carrier classes started being named for people after JFK got domed by the Illuminati, the theory being that a capital ship like a supercarrier should bear the name of a person that commanded many others, a pater familias of sorts.
Doris Miller a real one to be sure, but IDK if he should get a CVN. an LHD or other fast attack ship, sure. An actual littoral combat ship if the USN could unfrick itself long enough to build some. y4h8
>Lieutenant Frederic H. White had ordered Miller to help him and Ensign Victor Delano load the unmanned number 1 and number 2 Browning .50 caliber anti-aircraft machine guns aft of the conning tower.[21] Miller was not familiar with the weapon, but White and Delano instructed him on how to operate it. Delano expected Miller to feed ammunition to one gun, but his attention was diverted and, when he looked again, Miller was firing one of the guns. White then loaded ammunition into both guns and assigned Miller the starboard gun.[15] >Miller fired the gun until he ran out of ammunition, whereupon he was ordered by Lieutenant Claude V. Ricketts to help carry the captain up to the navigation bridge out of the thick oily smoke generated by the many fires on and around the ship; Miller was officially credited with downing at least two hostile planes.[19] "I think I got one of those Jap planes. They were diving pretty close to us," he said later.[3] Japanese aircraft eventually dropped two armor-piercing bombs through the deck of the battleship and launched five 18-inch (460 mm) torpedoes into her port side. When the attack finally lessened, Miller helped move injured sailors through oil and water to the quarterdeck, thereby "unquestionably saving the lives of a number of people who might otherwise have been lost".[22]
Shares the same energy as Alwyn Cashe.
If one rando in Vietnam can survive getting shot thirty times with medical proofs, I can believe all the crazy shit the men of WWII did with some embellishment. It's not like any of them single-handedly won the war.
World war 2 was insane anon, when you have tens of millions of soldiers fighting all around the globe, you're bound to get a few outliers who survive cray situations
I've want a WWI film with the production value of 1917 about the Harlem "Hellfighters", a name given to them by their enemies. Gotta admit, those guys were just built different. They saw some pretty fierce fighting during their deployment in Europe.
Shame so many of them fell on hard times after the war but that's pretty normal for vets unfortunately. It's also a shame they weren't allowed to wear the uniform of their country; they were "loaned" to France during the war.
Also, even though it was just virtue signalling, I'm glad Johnson got the posthumously received a medal of honor.
sounds expensive. for less money, you can just hire Black folk to run a train on your wife because that's basically the same thing as your cucked post.
>they should make a movie about the harlem hellfighters!
>immediately starts talking about BBC cuckold porn
if you want to tell us you got molested by Black folk, you can just say so, no need to beat around the bush like this
4 months ago
Anonymous
>PLEASE make GOYSLOP so I can consume it
When the frick did the USN roll out the USS Shaquile O'Neal?
Samegay
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Be obsessed with cuckshit >Someone calls you out >Reply with non sequitur about goyslop
>hating blacks who doing something with their lives and fight for the sane things you fight for >thinking that doesnt deserve a movie
You are a sad man
4 months ago
Anonymous
>fight for the same things you fight for >WW1
come on man
Ford was a Naval officer aboard a carrier. Deserves a carrier more than Truman.
>What did he do? Guys that get ships named after them are generally pretty deserving or the President.
the only presidents that even deserve that are Teddy and Ike. I'd much rather someone like Miller who actually did something for his country get the honor.
>What did he do? Guys that get ships named after them are generally pretty deserving or the President.
the only presidents that even deserve that are Teddy and Ike. I'd much rather someone like Miller who actually did something for his country get the honor.
the same military claims that during Red Wings, 100 taliban died.
39 Japanese planes were lost, I doubt one guy on a .50 cal was responsibile for 8% of all Japanese losses
Went above and beyond with the AA gun just because that's what sailors do.
Rescued the Captain who he was a servant of, because that was just a duty, and who wouldn't help out your Captain if he was shot in the bridge of his Battleship at Pearl Harbor?
Was a big amateur boxer in the Navy and PH basin when that meant something and he could possibly port to Pro Boxing.
Went on after his ship was wasted and he saw the last breaths of his Captain and the mangled end of his shipmates, to another command, did his duty, and died in WWII.
Navy is making up for Stennis but it doesn't matter, Doris is bigger than a medal and that's the American Sailor way, a privilege US military homosexuals get automatically if you pass boot camp. Your greatest heroes are guys who just did their shit.
No one deserves a carrier named after them, the US habit of naming ships after people is honestly lame as frick. A rule needs to be established that if a ship is going to carry a notable figure's name then that person needs to have been dead for 200 years; if we still want to name shit after them 200 years later then that establishes their notability with certainty, rather than naming everything after the flavor of the month.
Bring back cool names like animals or battles or ancient gods or states or philosophical concepts or what the frick ever. Stop using people names.
I liked the ship names from Iain Banks novels: The USS No More Mr. Nice Guy, USS God Told Me To Do It, USS So Much For Subtlety, USS Just Read The Instructions. Also build a supership that's 80 kilometers long and equipped with the most advanced black project rail guns called the USS Size Isn't Everything.
The standard used to be that carriers were named after battles. We should go back to that. Guys like Doris Miller deserve to have ships named after them but that should be on destroyers. They are going back to naming subs after fish at least.
WW2 carriers weren't completely consistently Civil War battles - you had outliers like Hornet and Enterprise.
Would the proposal be to go back specifically to just Civil War battles, or all battles fought by the US since then?
The problem with the latter is that civil war battle sites (Yorktown, Saratoga, Bunker Hill, etc.) are located in the US for the most part, but most US conflicts since then have been fought elsewhere, and the vast majority of battles are going to be named for some foreign geographic location.
You might be able to get away with some more generic ones like USS Bulge, but a lot of American battle sites are direct references to foreign geography: USS Imjin, USS Khe Sanh
USS Fallujah.
If they hadn't blown the load with states on battleships then carriers would have been the good choice. At the end of the day they should not be named after people and should never in a thousand years be named after people who did not serve in the navy and did not even serve in the military at all.
>They are going back to naming subs after fish at least.
Only for a four of them, they went right back to names and location names after those four.
I wish there was a more consistent convention again, but there's too many names with long legacies that would be the exceptions.
I agree though that honorable individuals would probably be best fitted to a destroyer. Naming a carrier after Miller departs from the standards, but at the same time it's hard to object and say "Well maybe that's too much..." There is a racial aspect to it in that it's recognition of not only Miller but all like him. Men who served the nation even when the nation wasn't exactly being gracious in return. Men who whose actions made the nation realize it could be better to all its citizens.
Carter was personally selected by Rickover in the Navy. He also personally (like with his own hands) saved Canada from a major nuclear disaster. He’s a good Christian man as well.
Carter is a very good man and we would be lucky to have more politicians like him, even if he was a weaker president.
Carter botched Persia, leading to decades of terrorism. He was weak against the USSR (boycott the Olympics, that'll show 'em!), and presided over what was pretty much the nadir of the modern US military. Domestically, he gave us "malaise", the Misery Index, and the national funk that was the late '70s. He also presided over the destruction of the domestic nuclear power program. After he left office, he proceeded to rubber-stamp a series of elections in which dictators blatantly rigged the vote, lending them international respectability that they absolutely didn't deserve. And didn't he help the Kims out diplomatically in Best Korea during the '90s?
History's Greatest Monster? Not compared to Obama's three terms (and counting), or Wilson or FDR shredding the Constitution, but not very good, either.
US carriers had peak sovl with shit like Oriskany or Coral Sea
actually most royal navy ships have more mundane names. current naming scheme is:
>Carriers get royal names i.e Prince of Wales or famous WW2 carrier names like Invincible, Illustrious, Formidable or Ark Royal >SSBNs get old battleship names because gunboat diplomacy like Dreadnought, Renown, Warspite and Valiant >SSNs get letter based name like WW2 subs where every ship in the class starts with the same letter from the traditional pool of ship names like Astute, Anson, Agincourt >Type 45 destroyers get a D based naming scheme like Daring, Dragon, Diamond >type 23 frigates are named after famous dukedoms like Montrose, Iron Duke and Lancaster >Type 26 frigates are named after british cities like Edinburgh, Belfast, Sheffield >Type 31 frigates since its a meme class of giant frigates are just named after various cool WW2 ships like Bulldog after the destroyer that captured naval enigma or Campbeltown which committed Jihad against the lock gates at St Nazaire.
the theme is basically naval tradition and carrying forward the names of based ships
Those are the A-listers, most RN ships had pretty boring names, like places, people, and objects. >HMS Gay Forester >HMS Buttercup >HMS Happy Ladd >HMS Zebra >HMS Pigeon
French SNLEs (nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines) have pretty cool names imo.
>Le Redoutable (The Formidable) >Le Terrible (The Dreadful) >Le Foudroyant (The Violent) >L'Indomptable (The Indomitable) >Le Tonnant (The Thundering) >L'Inflexible (The Unyielding) >Le Triomphant (The Triumphant) >Le Téméraire (The Audacious) >Le Vigilant (The Vigilant)
Some could say it's pretentious af, but if there's one type of ship deserving of such names, it's giant underwater nuclear death cigars.
These names are cool but some of your translations are wrong. >Le Foudroyant - Lightning Striker >L'Inflexible - Inflexible >Le Téméraire - Reckless
t.french
https://i.imgur.com/JJykzt7.jpg
Naming ships like: >HMS INDESTRUCTIBLE
is boring, you're just another ship and it looks stupid when your big dick named ships sink. >USS Gerald Ford
is boring because they're often named after flawed individuals that end their careers in disgrace or controversy.
The merrier the better. Imperial Japan got ownzoned by ships named like USS Cod and it looks funny on action reports when USS Cod sinks HMS HUMONGOUS.
Naming ships like: >HMS INDESTRUCTIBLE
is boring, you're just another ship and it looks stupid when your big dick named ships sink. >USS Gerald Ford
is boring because they're often named after flawed individuals that end their careers in disgrace or controversy.
The merrier the better. Imperial Japan got ownzoned by ships named like USS Cod and it looks funny on action reports when USS Cod sinks HMS HUMONGOUS.
>Bring back cool names like animals
I thought we were doing this with subs such as USS Wahoo (SSN-806), but it turns out we're going back to cities with USS San Francisco (SSN-810).
I was really hoping we would get another USS Archerfish
I get naming them after military figures.
I can tolerate naming them after presidents. Anything else is where I draw the line, especially elected officials who aren't the president and worse have no fricking bearing on the military. harvey milk at least served, but Feinstein? Beyond her being an unamerican traitor and I don't even just mean the 2nd amendment I mean the first too, the frick did she do to earn that?
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The craziest part is EVERY sister ship of the Harvey Milk has a cringe name
They could have named the whole class the Commie homosexual Replenishment Oilers
I'm going to guess those were during Obama/Biden admins because of how self-aggrandizing it is. Ain't nobody fricking naming something the USS Clarence Thomas
>I'm going to guess those were during Obama/Biden admins because of how self-aggrandizing it is. Ain't nobody fricking naming something the USS Clarence Thomas
It started under Bush by naming auxiliary ships after women and such. It was continued under Obama with the John Lewis-class.
>Carl
Nothing wrong with him from what I see. Perfectly reasonable to name a master diver with a famous and respectable story. Amelia is alright, not great. Saccky israelite is fine in that mythological way.
>people who did not serve in the navy and did not even serve in the military at all.
Like who was that?
You may have mistook my 'they should not be named' to mean battleships, as I meant naval ships at all. I call it a hunch, but I am pretty sure a former black slave abolitionist woman in the 19th century did not serve in the navy. Also, I'm willing to bet that a tiny bookish israeli lawyer who became a supreme court justice was not in the navy. This isn't even a ree women or reee israeli woman thing, it's a "Why are you deifying ONE supreme court justice to name a ship after her?". Are we going to get the Sotomayor and the Kagan? Are we going to get one of Sandra Day O'Connor, who at least has the claim to being the first women on the supreme court? Why is Ginsburg getting the 'honor'?
We shouldn't be naming prestigious (Even if a refueling ship isn't exactly a battleship) things after brahmins unless they have some actual meaningful link to it such as being in the navy and doing some heroic action or suffering on behalf of the country. That has a fawning oligarhic masturbatory air about it that's utterly unamerican.
>Be peeling potatoes in the belly of a ship in a country that doesn't like you >get attacked out of nowhere by a foreign power >take up arms and fight when it isn't your duty to do so, nor are you expected to, and successfully shoot down enemy planes while doing it
A carrier being named in respect for this is perfectly reasonable
We both know it's because he's black. You can probably list thousands of similar incidents, but this one was picked for obvious reasons. And that's not on attack on him.
>not a big deal for a white >very big deal for a black
America expects less from blacks, anon. What's considered absolutely normal for a white is celebrated as an accomplishment for a black. It's always been that way. I'd imagine that it'd be incredibly demeaning for any black with half a brain, and I personally find it offensive to treat a segment of our adult population like children, but they seem okay with it so I suppose I should be too.
First of all, it would still be a big deal for a white sailor. It's an even bigger deal for him, because nobody expected him to care precisely because he was a second class citizen. It's the problem of obligation. People who lack stake in the system have no obligation to it.
>People who lack stake in the system have no obligation to it.
I have no stake in the system
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Anonymous
And I wouldn't expect you to do anything for it, if that is the case. With no wife, children, or a stable income, why would I expect you to do shit? Would we not applaud the homeless man who risks himself in a fire to rescue some strangers? Is he not more heroic than the father of the family doing the same?
4 months ago
Anonymous
And I wouldn't expect you to do anything for it, if that is the case. With no wife, children, or a stable income, why would I expect you to do shit? Would we not applaud the homeless man who risks himself in a fire to rescue some strangers? Is he not more heroic than the father of the family doing the same?
john from ohio oblast here, I am very demoralized by these organic posts by my fellow americans and recognize that the multipolar world ahs arrived
>general quarters station is an anti aircraft mount >gets ordered to an anti aircraft mount during general quarters >such wow
When I go to work each day, tasks that I've been trained to perform are assigned to me and I complete them. This is not noteworthy behavior for most people.
Were there any other sailors recognized for performance above and beyond the call of duty on West Virginia that day? What color were they, and what ships were named after them?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>but why isn't there a BET or NAACP for white people?
shut the frick up
4 months ago
Anonymous
>What color were they, and what ships were named after them?
read the thread, dumbass
>should’ve been prepping for breakfast the next day
he already made breakfast and was on laundry duty
>hog all the white man’s glory
he didn't the navy put him down for an anonymous commendation. someone in the press leaked his name and the Senate gigged him for the MoH
>any of the actual navy men who fired the anti-aircraft guns and died for their country get any ships named after them
there's a whole-ass list you dumb polack wop guinea mick hillbilly Croatian
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/s/ships-named-for-individual-sailors.html >or get any posthumous medals?
heaps. handed them out like candy
>there's a whole-ass list you dumb polack wop guinea mick hillbilly Croatian >https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/s/ships-named-for-individual-sailors.html >>or get any posthumous medals? >heaps. handed them out like candy
>Oiler ship named after Harvey Milk
That's a lotta lube. The name fits.
Deserves it more.than FRICKING Harvey milk ffs
You don't understand, sir. We NEED to show our true colors by naming ships after such heroes as Harvey Milk.
The craziest part is EVERY sister ship of the Harvey Milk has a cringe name
They could have named the whole class the Commie homosexual Replenishment Oilers
Going above and beyond in combat should be the only way to have a ship / base / vehicle named after you. Politicians getting the honor is just stroking their ego for brownie points.
I'll take them naming it after nog soldiers over politicians and "historical" and "civil rights" personas, at least they have usually done something worth naming after in wartime for their fellow soldiers (usually).
200 years from now who is more likely to be remembered by the history books if neither of them had a ship named after them: Doris Miller or Ronald Reagan?
He deserves an honor, perhaps more fitting for a DDG but it beats naming a CVN after another president. Plus that carrier will have the best motto >It's Miller Time
It was a political choice but not one I'll complain about. An act of heroism in the navy is more worthy of a carrier than Stennis was. (I'd say any congressman who never served, but Vinson at least gave us the 2 Ocean Navy Act which was pretty huge)
He actually got a Frigate back in the 70s.
The standard used to be that carriers were named after battles. We should go back to that. Guys like Doris Miller deserve to have ships named after them but that should be on destroyers. They are going back to naming subs after fish at least.
There has never been a coherent naming scheme for CVs. Unless I missed the Battle of Enterprise during history class. Battles were common but there wasn't ever really any consistent scheme. We've had carriers named for people, battles, prior ships, and even a one-off joke told by the president. (The USS Shangri-La, named in reference to FDR telling a reporter that was the origin of the Doolittle Raid )
Enterprise is a holdover from Revolutionary war period for previous Ship names. Originally the "George" Benedict Arnold captured her from St Johns, Canada and renamed her the USS Enterprise. This started the names history with the US Navy.
Maybe not, but at the very least he served and died in WWII. Far more deserving than many presidents.
Just be happy it’s not something moronic like USS George Floyd
Probably not, I mean I found a half dozen black MoH Recipients that didn’t get more than a destroyer named for them, and a couple that didn’t get even that.
This Black person should’ve been prepping for breakfast the next day not try and hog all the white man’s glory. Did any of the actual navy men who fired the anti-aircraft guns and died for their country get any ships named after them or get any posthumous medals? No? Then sit your Black person ass down.
>should’ve been prepping for breakfast the next day
he already made breakfast and was on laundry duty
>hog all the white man’s glory
he didn't the navy put him down for an anonymous commendation. someone in the press leaked his name and the Senate gigged him for the MoH
>any of the actual navy men who fired the anti-aircraft guns and died for their country get any ships named after them
there's a whole-ass list you dumb polack wop guinea mick hillbilly Croatian
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/s/ships-named-for-individual-sailors.html >or get any posthumous medals?
heaps. handed them out like candy
Today I learned this guy was actually real and not invented by that trash movie. Dunno about a carrier, but name a destroyer or a logistics ship after him.
This thread is making me hate /k/ so much that I wish I was a russia-fan so I could hang out in /chug/ and hate you people together with them
What’s crazy is like…who is this for? Ask a black person if they know who Doris Miller is, they’ll probably think it’s one of the Golden Girls. We’re cucking ourselves to ourselves, thinking black Americans will care
Why do we care if they care? The man was serving his country and went above and beyond his duty. IDGAF what color his skin is, I'd rather see carriers named for Navy MoH recipients than politicians.
Give them a community center they still hate whites. Give them government jobs they still hate whites. Give them welfare they still hate whites. Let them break all the laws they still hate whites. Name an aircraft carrier after them they still hate whites.
I'm beginning to think they just hate whites.
Absolutely. One of the only people to fight back effectively during Pearl Harbor, and effectively at that. More boats should be named for heroic enlisted sailors, and Absolutely none should be named for anyone who didn't see combat.
>Daily reminder that only 850 Blacks died for America in WW2. The idea that they contributed significantly as a group is bullshit they've tried to push for 60 years now. But nobody gives a shit.
Their contribution to the war economy was more than significantly.
The you're the reason why the tech industry is full of pajeets and airliners are falling out of the sky. You let in one good one and the good one lets in all the bad ones.
It would be entirely appropriate and within correct USN naming convention to name a destroyer after him but not a carrier. The only reason it's a carrier is to appeal to the woke morons who don't even enlist.
They weren't allowed to that's the point. And the point of this man's story. He didn't have the same rights, or privledges, so him taking up the guns and fighting is more meaningful.
Nah. It breaks naming convention for political reasons which I guess is the USN's forte, but still. Traditionally he'd have a destroyer named after him
I didn't even come close to implying a former congressman should have a ship named after him. It should stick with former presidents that served in the USN and famous ships.
It's all moot because the navy knows how to get it's budget and Fish Don't Vote.
>It should stick with former presidents that served in the USN and famous ships.
Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, Truman, Reagan, and Lincoln served in the Navy?
Teddy Roosevelt may have never served in the US navy, but he was arguably the most powerful and influential Assistant Secretary of the Navy in US History.
>Ike was commander of allied forces europe during WW2 famously >Teddy fought in the spanish american war also very famously >Truman was an artillery officer in WW1 >Ronnie was part of some army unit of actors making propaganda in WW2 although after the dementia kicked in he thought he basically took Omaha beach. >Lincoln fought in the Black Hawk War as a militia Captain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Miller_(FF-1091)
He's got Destroyer Escort named after him. Frankly, the USN has too many enlisted heroes to name Carriers with.
You don't win wars by dying, dipshit. In either case, blacks were designated as eternal pogs, so that's not a surprise. The fact is, though, that Miller did die for his country, and deserves recognition for his actions prior to that. When a man puts on a uniform, he stops being white, black, or whatever fricking thing he was before. He's a symbol and a representative of the United States of America. As such, his achievements and actions should be equally recognized for their contribution to American power and prestige. Miller fits that bill, as did many Sailors, Soldiers, and Marines during WW2.
>850 Blacks died for America in WW2. The idea that they contributed significantly as a group is
Lmao what YouTube grifter did you get this nugget of highly compressed bullshit from I seriously want to know
Vatnik for citing wikipedia citing the national archives?
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You don't win wars by dying, dipshit. In either case, blacks were designated as eternal pogs, so that's not a surprise. The fact is, though, that Miller did die for his country, and deserves recognition for his actions prior to that. When a man puts on a uniform, he stops being white, black, or whatever fricking thing he was before. He's a symbol and a representative of the United States of America. As such, his achievements and actions should be equally recognized for their contribution to American power and prestige. Miller fits that bill, as did many Sailors, Soldiers, and Marines during WW2.
No you win wars via massive logistical superiority which allows you to blast the living shit out of the enemy while not suffering yourself. The issue is that blacks have limited economic utility and it would be more efficient to simply not have them. The juice is not worth the squeeze, they weren't as bad back then but today blacks cost the federal government about 1.2 trillion bucks a year and hispanics cost another trillion.
Why do you feel the need to defend this trash? They have no utility.
and I bet contemplating that really triggers you
I'd be more concerned about the engine having intake issues.
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They weren't allowed to that's the point. And the point of this man's story. He didn't have the same rights, or privledges, so him taking up the guns and fighting is more meaningful.
They are allowed now yet remain incompetent according even to our current military which has every incentive to downplay that incompetence. I also doubt we can confirm he shot shit down whether he did or not.
[...] >The idea that they contributed significantly as a group is bullshit
What if I only care about individual contributions?
Then you are an idiot who doesn't understand what a statistical mean, a statistical outlier, or standard deviation are.
I don't think anyone would object to naming a ship after Ernest E. Evans, and claim it was overglorifying natives' and their combat involvement, just goes to show how mind-broken some are over blacks specifically. /misc/ is a sad joke.
>haha you chuds didja know the heroic Captain Evans was part Cherokee
this may actually be the lamest gotcha I've ever seen
especially because the guy was a famous war hero BEFORE he even died in combat
Are you actually that fricking moronic? The issue isn't a black guy getting a ship named after him, it's because it's being named after him because he's black. How dumb do you have to be to not see the difference?
>The amount of white africans ITT that can't distinguish between a black guy and a Black person >Such a thing brings out a weird sort of "ooga booga" african jungle Black person tribalism is some. >"Ooger Booger," if you will.
I saved this for a random thread the other day but it seems the civilized minority Seethe Generator archetype is real. Causes asshurt among moronic leftoids and tribal monkeys larping as white people.
OP tries to create outrage farm thread. >Look everybody! It's a Black person! A Black person! A NIIIIGGERRR!
Anons asks what he did. Get a quick answer. Turns out what he actually did was cool. Thread begins to focus on that instead of fixating on race and nothing but race.
You get outraged at the lack of outrage. You start reeee'ing about cuckporn and gays and trannies and accusing anons of worshipping blacks, all the while being unable to see anything besides race like your grey matter is riddled with countless little black dicks. How fricked in the head by this culture war garbage does one have to be to make all these posts and need everyone to be mad? This guy put aside racial descrimination and went above and beyond for his country. He was a cook, no one expected him - black or not - to do what he did, but he answered the call. Didn't hide or run away. A fine example of a sailor of whatever race, and that's what I choose to focus on.
Some of us decided to ignore the obvious /misc/ bait and subsequent shitshow to instead fixate on the terrible naming conventions of the modern US Navy while debating what would constitute actually good ship names
Yeah, and I still agree with that. Politics aside I don't like naming carriers after specific people in general. Thread should have remained focused on that and funny boat names. But shrieking has a tendency to drown out everything else
>endless revisionist history movies that claim "acktually le ebin negresses got us to the moon
So you didn't watch the movie where it is explicitly shown that NASA would have succeeded with or without Harrison, but persuading some pencilnecks to not focus on race instead of results didn't hurt anything? I bet you think more women getting into college with sex-blind applications is evidence of rampant discrimination against men, huh.
It'd be better if Carriers, as a whole, were named after significant Navy figures instead of just Presidents and politicians who served in and/or lobbied for the Navy.
He should have gotten a Burke, and honestly, he should have gotten it a long time ago. Carriers need to go back to using the names of historic carriers; there are several dozen to choose from, so there's no shortage of them.
As a capital ship, there's an argument for using state names for carriers and boomers, but the Virginia-class has wrecked that idea.
>Racial tensions are a major weak point of US domestic morale and coherence >do some minor and cheap symbolic gestures to minimize racial tension problems and keep morale for black troops high
It's a no brainer m8. You don't want your squad arguing with each other over race and having 1/10 of the population feeling culturally alienated from their own team.
as if random nogs give a shit about some other nog from 80 year ago. The biggest fans of their so called martyrs like malcolm x or luther king are the usual suspect, self hating euro descents.
Might as well name the ship USS Snoop Dogg if you want them to actually recognize it. And then even its just received with either cringe or the ship being the butt of the jokes about pimpin the other female sounding ships
the navy completely ruined the naming scheme they had. the one they used in ww2 was perfect. destroyers were named after sailors, cruisers were named after cities, battleships were named after states, carriers were named for battles or older ships, and submarines were fish.
Bungie era Halo had kino ship names >UNSC Dawn Under Heaven >UNSC Spirit of Fire >UNSC Pillar of Autumn >UNSC Say My Name >UNSC Armageddon's Edge >UNSC Forward Unto Dawn >UNSC In Amber Clad >UNSC Two for Flinching
Now the shit writers have gone back to naming them after cities or things like "Valiant" or Infinity"
No boat should ever be named after a person unless they:
1.) Served in the military, preferably the Navy.
2.) Saw combat.
3.) Killed an exceptional number of enemies or were wounded in that combat while engaged in heroic action, preferably both.
4.) Preferably died in the course of performing their duty.
These criteria leave you with literally thousands of heroes to choose from, not including names that you recycle because they're especially prestigious. You avoid embarrassments that potentially decrease morale like Carter, Bush, or Stennis.
Unironically social justice aside hes a solid candidate for getting a ship named after him. Like a lot of other said maybe not a carrier but compared to other buttholes who get ships named after him he's a real hero. He's also Navy and while there are other 'deserving' world war II hero's a lot of them were army and marines. I feel like ships should be named after navy heros and generals not army ones. Wouldn't want the next IFV to be named the John Paul Jones, nor would it make sense to name the next destroyer class Chris Kyle.
Yea, the consensus is that he should have got a Destroyer, since that's in line with traditional naming conventions of them being named after sailors who went above and beyond, but he's still a better choice then a random fricking politician or other public figure who wasn't involved in the military at all.
Any Navy cross recipient deserves a ship named in their honor. However the fact he isn't getting a DDG (which are ALWAYS named for Naval and Marine heroes) but a carrier, is a clear case Black person pedestal worshipping
>I feel like ships should be named after navy heros
They are you toad
>who manned an anti air gun with no training and shot down some planes
do people still believe these superman stories?
>NUH UHH I DONT BELIEVE IT
moron
>manned an anti air gun with no training
All Navy men are trained, anon. Semper paratus
[...] >No one deserves a carrier named after them
carrier classes started being named for people after JFK got domed by the Illuminati, the theory being that a capital ship like a supercarrier should bear the name of a person that commanded many others, a pater familias of sorts.
Doris Miller a real one to be sure, but IDK if he should get a CVN. an LHD or other fast attack ship, sure. An actual littoral combat ship if the USN could unfrick itself long enough to build some. y4h8
>>All Navy men are trained, anon. Semper paratus
Excellent bait you Black person, well done. LHDs are exclusively named for revolutionary war battles and ships or Marine Corps battles though.
Why do we care if they care? The man was serving his country and went above and beyond his duty. IDGAF what color his skin is, I'd rather see carriers named for Navy MoH recipients than politicians.
It's more that it is very hard to know if he was hitting anything since there were likely many shooting at them. The same way the ground attack forces of every belligerent vastly overestimated the effect of close air support. People think they hit shit when they didn't. It's possible he got lucky, but unlikely and the obvious propaganda value of the story casts doubt on it. Elites have long tried to get blacks invested in this society, because the elites are homosexuals who hold themselves above all others and thus most aren't racialists. Hell even in the Federalist Papers they say they wanted to integrate injuns. We the people killed the redskins, despite the government both Crown and Republic trying to countermand our will at every turn.
What did he do? Guys that get ships named after them are generally pretty deserving or the President.
>What did he do
Be black.
Reminder
That’s Dorie Miller who was at Pearl Harbour.
Look it up,don’t be lazy.
He invented mashed potatoes. He was also the first Black Sailor in the USN to have killed the enemy with his penis after mistaking a Japenese sapper with a satchel of explosives for a geisha with a ozashiki kago after drinking saki. MPs were alerted to screams outside their base to find Miller on to of the enemy, attacking with "black bayonet" as Miller put it. The soldier was taken to the base where he was pronounced dead from internal bleeding, shock, and profound shame. Miller was awarded the Navy Cross for "defending his fellow sailors with the only weapon he was capable to employ."
You had me at "mashed potatoes". A bona fide American legend.
>check
Ah the guy with balls of steel during the Japanese attack on pearl harbor. Not sure I would name a carrier after him but he's still worthy of recognition.
>balls of steel! While other guys were trapped below decks drowning, le hecking Black person was shooting a 50 cal blind lit (probably straffing other ships/sailors) to make absolutely no impact whatsoever!
I would rather have the carrier named after MC Hammer
iirc, he was a cook at pearl harbor who manned an anti air gun with no training and shot down some planes.
that passes my 'neat' check, id name a boat after a guy like that
His actions are very impressive when you fully appreciate the magnitude of the attack and the massive explosions going on around him.
He could have run away but did his duty, going way above and beyond.
the one from Bay's Pearl Harbor?
based
>manned an anti air gun with no training
All Navy men are trained, anon. Semper paratus
>No one deserves a carrier named after them
carrier classes started being named for people after JFK got domed by the Illuminati, the theory being that a capital ship like a supercarrier should bear the name of a person that commanded many others, a pater familias of sorts.
Doris Miller a real one to be sure, but IDK if he should get a CVN. an LHD or other fast attack ship, sure. An actual littoral combat ship if the USN could unfrick itself long enough to build some. y4h8
>All Navy men are trained, anon.
Black cooks in 1941 weren't.
They're named after politicians because politicians are a self-fellating bunch and they hold the purse strings.
>Semper Paratus
Wrong service
a cook aint though
Based Black. He passes.
Ok nevermind, he gets a ship named after him.
Based brotha avenging wh*Tes.
nvm he deserved it
>Lieutenant Frederic H. White had ordered Miller to help him and Ensign Victor Delano load the unmanned number 1 and number 2 Browning .50 caliber anti-aircraft machine guns aft of the conning tower.[21] Miller was not familiar with the weapon, but White and Delano instructed him on how to operate it. Delano expected Miller to feed ammunition to one gun, but his attention was diverted and, when he looked again, Miller was firing one of the guns. White then loaded ammunition into both guns and assigned Miller the starboard gun.[15]
>Miller fired the gun until he ran out of ammunition, whereupon he was ordered by Lieutenant Claude V. Ricketts to help carry the captain up to the navigation bridge out of the thick oily smoke generated by the many fires on and around the ship; Miller was officially credited with downing at least two hostile planes.[19] "I think I got one of those Jap planes. They were diving pretty close to us," he said later.[3] Japanese aircraft eventually dropped two armor-piercing bombs through the deck of the battleship and launched five 18-inch (460 mm) torpedoes into her port side. When the attack finally lessened, Miller helped move injured sailors through oil and water to the quarterdeck, thereby "unquestionably saving the lives of a number of people who might otherwise have been lost".[22]
Shares the same energy as Alwyn Cashe.
pretty based Black. I say he deserves the honor of having the ship named after him.
>who manned an anti air gun with no training and shot down some planes
do people still believe these superman stories?
If one rando in Vietnam can survive getting shot thirty times with medical proofs, I can believe all the crazy shit the men of WWII did with some embellishment. It's not like any of them single-handedly won the war.
Especially since just the general size of WWII means that you're likely to get some freak outlier cases just by virtue of number of chances.
World war 2 was insane anon, when you have tens of millions of soldiers fighting all around the globe, you're bound to get a few outliers who survive cray situations
>he got a medal for doing his job
lmao the navy is absolutely pathetic.
Better name patron than the Booker got
They named a base after this guy, a black WWI soldier (posthumously awarded Medal of Honor by Obama)
Forgot pic
>Stabbed a kraut through the head
That's a cool cat right there.
I've want a WWI film with the production value of 1917 about the Harlem "Hellfighters", a name given to them by their enemies. Gotta admit, those guys were just built different. They saw some pretty fierce fighting during their deployment in Europe.
Shame so many of them fell on hard times after the war but that's pretty normal for vets unfortunately. It's also a shame they weren't allowed to wear the uniform of their country; they were "loaned" to France during the war.
Also, even though it was just virtue signalling, I'm glad Johnson got the posthumously received a medal of honor.
sounds expensive. for less money, you can just hire Black folk to run a train on your wife because that's basically the same thing as your cucked post.
>they should make a movie about the harlem hellfighters!
>immediately starts talking about BBC cuckold porn
if you want to tell us you got molested by Black folk, you can just say so, no need to beat around the bush like this
>PLEASE make GOYSLOP so I can consume it
Samegay
>Be obsessed with cuckshit
>Someone calls you out
>Reply with non sequitur about goyslop
Holy shit lmao you need time away from the internet.
>hire Black folk to run a train on your wife
Is this your fetish?
What the frick are you writing? Is this supposed to be bait?
sorta
>harlem hellfighters
kino name tbqh
> Another "special Black folk" war movie.
No thanks
>hating blacks who doing something with their lives and fight for the sane things you fight for
>thinking that doesnt deserve a movie
You are a sad man
>fight for the same things you fight for
>WW1
come on man
this guy was pretty based he killed like 30 krauts
He deserves it more than Gerald Ford
Ford was a Naval officer aboard a carrier. Deserves a carrier more than Truman.
GHWB is worthy, Naval Aviator. Even JFK is OK.
>Deserves a carrier more than Truman.
Truman is the only president to have ever done the funni
Your argument is invalid
They should have named an SSBN after Truman.
Yes.
And named a peanut farm after Carter.
Gerald Ford almost got swept overboard because of Haley's typhoon
>What did he do? Guys that get ships named after them are generally pretty deserving or the President.
the only presidents that even deserve that are Teddy and Ike. I'd much rather someone like Miller who actually did something for his country get the honor.
Presidents and major Revolutionary names go to SSBNs.
he's this guy
Man what a dogshit movie that was.
HOLY FRICKING SHIT WE'RE GONNA CALL IT USS CUBA THAT'S TREASON
Couldn't post a clip from the actual definitive Pearl Harbor movie.
He didn’t down a plane at all IRL
Captcha: JAP PVP
I doubt there is any proof either way, unless he was literally the only person firing an AA gun.
According to witnesses he got 4 or 5 but the Navy only gave him credit for one
the same military claims that during Red Wings, 100 taliban died.
39 Japanese planes were lost, I doubt one guy on a .50 cal was responsibile for 8% of all Japanese losses
Shot down a few japs with an AA gun with minimal training, since he was a cook.
Deserves it more.than FRICKING Harvey milk ffs
I think we should give all the ships really gay names so that muslims seethe about it, it would be funny
Went above and beyond with the AA gun just because that's what sailors do.
Rescued the Captain who he was a servant of, because that was just a duty, and who wouldn't help out your Captain if he was shot in the bridge of his Battleship at Pearl Harbor?
Was a big amateur boxer in the Navy and PH basin when that meant something and he could possibly port to Pro Boxing.
Went on after his ship was wasted and he saw the last breaths of his Captain and the mangled end of his shipmates, to another command, did his duty, and died in WWII.
Navy is making up for Stennis but it doesn't matter, Doris is bigger than a medal and that's the American Sailor way, a privilege US military homosexuals get automatically if you pass boot camp. Your greatest heroes are guys who just did their shit.
Tbh an actual sailor who saw combat deserves a carrier name way more than fricking Ronald Reagan or the (inevitable) Obama
We can literally name a boat USS Cook and be done with it.
Make a whole class of em.
USS Bacon.
USS Ham n Eggs.
USS Freshly Squeezed Orange Juice.
OK time for breakfast. My work is done.
No one deserves a carrier named after them, the US habit of naming ships after people is honestly lame as frick. A rule needs to be established that if a ship is going to carry a notable figure's name then that person needs to have been dead for 200 years; if we still want to name shit after them 200 years later then that establishes their notability with certainty, rather than naming everything after the flavor of the month.
Bring back cool names like animals or battles or ancient gods or states or philosophical concepts or what the frick ever. Stop using people names.
I would have gone with Charles Jackson French if they wanted to name a carrier after a black navy guy.
This guy has the right idea though.
>animals
USS israelitefish
THE FEARED
>USS Labradoodle.
USS Opossum
USS Shiba Inu
USS Tabby
USS Chupacabra
USS Bobbit Worm
USS Split Second
actually terrifying
i think we should do pop culture references, who wouldnt wanna serve on the USS Die Hard 2: Die Harder?
>USS Idiocracy
>USS Freaky Friday
>USS Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo
>USS Sneed
>USS Fortnite Battle Royale
USS Raid: Shadow Legends
That's an Israeli game though
Two new projects release under the name of USS Beavis and its sister ship USS Butthead
I liked the ship names from Iain Banks novels: The USS No More Mr. Nice Guy, USS God Told Me To Do It, USS So Much For Subtlety, USS Just Read The Instructions. Also build a supership that's 80 kilometers long and equipped with the most advanced black project rail guns called the USS Size Isn't Everything.
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Pic:
>Another good name for a warship
USS Gunsmoke sounds neat
USS Combat!
>USS SHREK
Shrek at least is a synonym for a big object
USS Half-Life 3
(ship never arrives)
The standard used to be that carriers were named after battles. We should go back to that. Guys like Doris Miller deserve to have ships named after them but that should be on destroyers. They are going back to naming subs after fish at least.
WW2 carriers weren't completely consistently Civil War battles - you had outliers like Hornet and Enterprise.
Would the proposal be to go back specifically to just Civil War battles, or all battles fought by the US since then?
The problem with the latter is that civil war battle sites (Yorktown, Saratoga, Bunker Hill, etc.) are located in the US for the most part, but most US conflicts since then have been fought elsewhere, and the vast majority of battles are going to be named for some foreign geographic location.
You might be able to get away with some more generic ones like USS Bulge, but a lot of American battle sites are direct references to foreign geography: USS Imjin, USS Khe Sanh
USS Fallujah.
I like it when they're named after states.
If they hadn't blown the load with states on battleships then carriers would have been the good choice. At the end of the day they should not be named after people and should never in a thousand years be named after people who did not serve in the navy and did not even serve in the military at all.
>people who did not serve in the navy and did not even serve in the military at all.
Like who was that?
>They are going back to naming subs after fish at least.
Only for a four of them, they went right back to names and location names after those four.
Imagine getting sunk by the USS Unnamed
Honestly a ship called the USS Unamed is a cool one
I wish there was a more consistent convention again, but there's too many names with long legacies that would be the exceptions.
I agree though that honorable individuals would probably be best fitted to a destroyer. Naming a carrier after Miller departs from the standards, but at the same time it's hard to object and say "Well maybe that's too much..." There is a racial aspect to it in that it's recognition of not only Miller but all like him. Men who served the nation even when the nation wasn't exactly being gracious in return. Men who whose actions made the nation realize it could be better to all its citizens.
Bong ship names:
>Vengeance, Vanguard, Daring, Smiter, Triumph
Burger ship names:
>Harvey Milk, Gerald Ford, Gabby Giffords, Jimmy fricking Carter, Saginaw Ojibwe Anishinabek (!!??), Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Harriet Tubman
Carter was personally selected by Rickover in the Navy. He also personally (like with his own hands) saved Canada from a major nuclear disaster. He’s a good Christian man as well.
Leave him alone.
Carter is a very good man and we would be lucky to have more politicians like him, even if he was a weaker president.
Carter botched Persia, leading to decades of terrorism. He was weak against the USSR (boycott the Olympics, that'll show 'em!), and presided over what was pretty much the nadir of the modern US military. Domestically, he gave us "malaise", the Misery Index, and the national funk that was the late '70s. He also presided over the destruction of the domestic nuclear power program. After he left office, he proceeded to rubber-stamp a series of elections in which dictators blatantly rigged the vote, lending them international respectability that they absolutely didn't deserve. And didn't he help the Kims out diplomatically in Best Korea during the '90s?
History's Greatest Monster? Not compared to Obama's three terms (and counting), or Wilson or FDR shredding the Constitution, but not very good, either.
Rickover sold out for numbers (see "Fish Don't Vote). He stayed at least 10 years too long.
>Oiler ship named after Harvey Milk
That's a lotta lube. The name fits.
US carriers had peak sovl with shit like Oriskany or Coral Sea
actually most royal navy ships have more mundane names. current naming scheme is:
>Carriers get royal names i.e Prince of Wales or famous WW2 carrier names like Invincible, Illustrious, Formidable or Ark Royal
>SSBNs get old battleship names because gunboat diplomacy like Dreadnought, Renown, Warspite and Valiant
>SSNs get letter based name like WW2 subs where every ship in the class starts with the same letter from the traditional pool of ship names like Astute, Anson, Agincourt
>Type 45 destroyers get a D based naming scheme like Daring, Dragon, Diamond
>type 23 frigates are named after famous dukedoms like Montrose, Iron Duke and Lancaster
>Type 26 frigates are named after british cities like Edinburgh, Belfast, Sheffield
>Type 31 frigates since its a meme class of giant frigates are just named after various cool WW2 ships like Bulldog after the destroyer that captured naval enigma or Campbeltown which committed Jihad against the lock gates at St Nazaire.
the theme is basically naval tradition and carrying forward the names of based ships
>actually most royal navy ships have more mundane names
>Invincible
>Valiant
>Iron Duke
>Bulldog
>Daring
>Warspite
Anon...
Those are the A-listers, most RN ships had pretty boring names, like places, people, and objects.
>HMS Gay Forester
>HMS Buttercup
>HMS Happy Ladd
>HMS Zebra
>HMS Pigeon
HMS wienerchafer
French SNLEs (nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines) have pretty cool names imo.
>Le Redoutable (The Formidable)
>Le Terrible (The Dreadful)
>Le Foudroyant (The Violent)
>L'Indomptable (The Indomitable)
>Le Tonnant (The Thundering)
>L'Inflexible (The Unyielding)
>Le Triomphant (The Triumphant)
>Le Téméraire (The Audacious)
>Le Vigilant (The Vigilant)
Some could say it's pretentious af, but if there's one type of ship deserving of such names, it's giant underwater nuclear death cigars.
These names are cool but some of your translations are wrong.
>Le Foudroyant - Lightning Striker
>L'Inflexible - Inflexible
>Le Téméraire - Reckless
t.french
>HMS HUMONGOUS
That ship is sus.
Would I be better off visiting Brest or Toulon to find a pic related bf?
A fellow bussy connoisseur? Here's a French landtwink.
I wish i had a FAMAS and a cute minet to shoot it with
"Redoutable" is more akin to a "Fearsome" or "dreaded"
Are frogs allowed to have their names back after the royal navy steals their ships?
Pretty sure HMS Temeraire is ours.
Naming ships like:
>HMS INDESTRUCTIBLE
is boring, you're just another ship and it looks stupid when your big dick named ships sink.
>USS Gerald Ford
is boring because they're often named after flawed individuals that end their careers in disgrace or controversy.
The merrier the better. Imperial Japan got ownzoned by ships named like USS Cod and it looks funny on action reports when USS Cod sinks HMS HUMONGOUS.
Didn't Jimmy Carter stop a nuclear meltdown in Canada?
>Bring back cool names like animals
I thought we were doing this with subs such as USS Wahoo (SSN-806), but it turns out we're going back to cities with USS San Francisco (SSN-810).
I was really hoping we would get another USS Archerfish
>USS Wahoo
this just made me think, American Indian names would be kino as hell, probably would cause all kinds of asshurt though for stupid reasons.
They are used for attack choppers.
Transports too. Blackhawks and Chinooks were injuns
Anything will cause butthurt the Marines getting the USS Fallujah as the most recent America class ship is causing a good bit.
>animals
USS Moose or whatever is pretty lame
Fish and Indian tribes, butthole.
>the US habit of naming ships after people is honestly lame as frick
TO THE EVERLASTING GLORY OF THE INFANTRY SHINES THE NAME OF RODGER YOUNG
Shiiiiinnnes the Naaaaaammmmmee
>fought and died for the men he died among
Brits sound like edgy teenagers while the US usually just goes for people or events
When the Brits first used those names for their ships, they actually were in their edgy teenaged empire days.
Sorry, but the Brits already took most of the cool sounding names and adjectives.
This
Imagine hearing the Gerald Ford is being sent to fight you
>deploys tactical staircase
>let's give it name states or big cities
>today it would more political that give name of ex-presidents
Burgers, you are fricked.
>animals
So naming it after a Black was fine by this standard
You don't understand, sir. We NEED to show our true colors by naming ships after such heroes as Harvey Milk.
I get naming them after military figures.
I can tolerate naming them after presidents. Anything else is where I draw the line, especially elected officials who aren't the president and worse have no fricking bearing on the military. harvey milk at least served, but Feinstein? Beyond her being an unamerican traitor and I don't even just mean the 2nd amendment I mean the first too, the frick did she do to earn that?
I'm going to guess those were during Obama/Biden admins because of how self-aggrandizing it is. Ain't nobody fricking naming something the USS Clarence Thomas
>I'm going to guess those were during Obama/Biden admins because of how self-aggrandizing it is. Ain't nobody fricking naming something the USS Clarence Thomas
It started under Bush by naming auxiliary ships after women and such. It was continued under Obama with the John Lewis-class.
> USNS Sacagawea
> USNS Amelia Earhart
> USNS Carl Brashear
>Carl
Nothing wrong with him from what I see. Perfectly reasonable to name a master diver with a famous and respectable story. Amelia is alright, not great. Saccky israelite is fine in that mythological way.
You may have mistook my 'they should not be named' to mean battleships, as I meant naval ships at all. I call it a hunch, but I am pretty sure a former black slave abolitionist woman in the 19th century did not serve in the navy. Also, I'm willing to bet that a tiny bookish israeli lawyer who became a supreme court justice was not in the navy. This isn't even a ree women or reee israeli woman thing, it's a "Why are you deifying ONE supreme court justice to name a ship after her?". Are we going to get the Sotomayor and the Kagan? Are we going to get one of Sandra Day O'Connor, who at least has the claim to being the first women on the supreme court? Why is Ginsburg getting the 'honor'?
We shouldn't be naming prestigious (Even if a refueling ship isn't exactly a battleship) things after brahmins unless they have some actual meaningful link to it such as being in the navy and doing some heroic action or suffering on behalf of the country. That has a fawning oligarhic masturbatory air about it that's utterly unamerican.
>USNS Carl Brashear
He deserves a warship
Also we should give Amelia Earhart a carrier
>Matthew Perry
Wtf, how did Chandler get a ship named after him? Or was the game rigged from the start?
Wrong Matthew Perry
This is the Naval admiral that forced Japan to stop being a closed nation.
Lemonade, yo
I approach Jap women the same way. I tell them to open up. I then attempt to feed them a burger. I'm going to make them all fat.
i think i would try to get an american greencard trough service if i could serve on USS c**t Destroyer
>Be peeling potatoes in the belly of a ship in a country that doesn't like you
>get attacked out of nowhere by a foreign power
>take up arms and fight when it isn't your duty to do so, nor are you expected to, and successfully shoot down enemy planes while doing it
A carrier being named in respect for this is perfectly reasonable
We both know it's because he's black. You can probably list thousands of similar incidents, but this one was picked for obvious reasons. And that's not on attack on him.
List 5
Yeah, that's okay. He was also treated as second class because he was black. Any acts above the bare minimum should count for more.
>not a big deal for a white
>very big deal for a black
America expects less from blacks, anon. What's considered absolutely normal for a white is celebrated as an accomplishment for a black. It's always been that way. I'd imagine that it'd be incredibly demeaning for any black with half a brain, and I personally find it offensive to treat a segment of our adult population like children, but they seem okay with it so I suppose I should be too.
First of all, it would still be a big deal for a white sailor. It's an even bigger deal for him, because nobody expected him to care precisely because he was a second class citizen. It's the problem of obligation. People who lack stake in the system have no obligation to it.
>People who lack stake in the system have no obligation to it.
I have no stake in the system
And I wouldn't expect you to do anything for it, if that is the case. With no wife, children, or a stable income, why would I expect you to do shit? Would we not applaud the homeless man who risks himself in a fire to rescue some strangers? Is he not more heroic than the father of the family doing the same?
john from ohio oblast here, I am very demoralized by these organic posts by my fellow americans and recognize that the multipolar world ahs arrived
>general quarters station is an anti aircraft mount
>gets ordered to an anti aircraft mount during general quarters
>such wow
When I go to work each day, tasks that I've been trained to perform are assigned to me and I complete them. This is not noteworthy behavior for most people.
Were there any other sailors recognized for performance above and beyond the call of duty on West Virginia that day? What color were they, and what ships were named after them?
>but why isn't there a BET or NAACP for white people?
shut the frick up
>What color were they, and what ships were named after them?
read the thread, dumbass
>there's a whole-ass list you dumb polack wop guinea mick hillbilly Croatian
>https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/s/ships-named-for-individual-sailors.html
>>or get any posthumous medals?
>heaps. handed them out like candy
Still better than USS Gabby Giffords.
or USNS Harvey Milk
USS GAYSEX
USS Billy Herrington
Naming a naval vessel after a gay rapist/pederast seems appropriate
The craziest part is EVERY sister ship of the Harvey Milk has a cringe name
They could have named the whole class the Commie homosexual Replenishment Oilers
>USNS George Floyd is still a possibility
and I bet contemplating that really triggers you
How'd they slip up and let Harriet Tubman in? She was a staunch Republican who valued the Constitution.
A whole class named after gays, women, Black folk and liberals.
I hate this whole business of naming ships after people. I guess war heroes are better than politicians, but still.
he deserved a destroyer but i'll take war heroes over presidents and senators any day of the week
How’s your multi-polar world going, champ? Ya winning yet?
He unironically deserves a carrier.
You now realize that there will be a carrier named after a pedo (USS Clinton), USS Bush 2.0, USS Obongo, USS biden
They'll probably skip USS Trump just like they skipped USS Nixon
Going above and beyond in combat should be the only way to have a ship / base / vehicle named after you. Politicians getting the honor is just stroking their ego for brownie points.
Clinton bombed the Serbs.
>Uses western AI on a western board to shill for authoritarians who can't even make good graphics cards
lmao
Kek thirdie seeth is the gift that keeps on giving
I'll take them naming it after nog soldiers over politicians and "historical" and "civil rights" personas, at least they have usually done something worth naming after in wartime for their fellow soldiers (usually).
Politicians have more of an effect on history than some Black person sailor.
That is why they don't need a ship named after them, they will be remembered no matter how shit they are.
200 years from now who is more likely to be remembered by the history books if neither of them had a ship named after them: Doris Miller or Ronald Reagan?
we should name them after hippy liberal anti war types to make them seethe beyond the grave
He deserves an honor, perhaps more fitting for a DDG but it beats naming a CVN after another president. Plus that carrier will have the best motto
>It's Miller Time
It was a political choice but not one I'll complain about. An act of heroism in the navy is more worthy of a carrier than Stennis was. (I'd say any congressman who never served, but Vinson at least gave us the 2 Ocean Navy Act which was pretty huge)
He actually got a Frigate back in the 70s.
There has never been a coherent naming scheme for CVs. Unless I missed the Battle of Enterprise during history class. Battles were common but there wasn't ever really any consistent scheme. We've had carriers named for people, battles, prior ships, and even a one-off joke told by the president. (The USS Shangri-La, named in reference to FDR telling a reporter that was the origin of the Doolittle Raid )
Enterprise is a holdover from Revolutionary war period for previous Ship names. Originally the "George" Benedict Arnold captured her from St Johns, Canada and renamed her the USS Enterprise. This started the names history with the US Navy.
The SS Minnow Johnson?
Maybe not, but at the very least he served and died in WWII. Far more deserving than many presidents.
Just be happy it’s not something moronic like USS George Floyd
Probably not, I mean I found a half dozen black MoH Recipients that didn’t get more than a destroyer named for them, and a couple that didn’t get even that.
naming ships after people is inherently gay and cringe
Just because he's black doesn't make him special. Enough of that bullshit.
This Black person should’ve been prepping for breakfast the next day not try and hog all the white man’s glory. Did any of the actual navy men who fired the anti-aircraft guns and died for their country get any ships named after them or get any posthumous medals? No? Then sit your Black person ass down.
Keep it up with the edginess anon. Maybe one day you'll have a ship named after you for it.
>should’ve been prepping for breakfast the next day
he already made breakfast and was on laundry duty
>hog all the white man’s glory
he didn't the navy put him down for an anonymous commendation. someone in the press leaked his name and the Senate gigged him for the MoH
>any of the actual navy men who fired the anti-aircraft guns and died for their country get any ships named after them
there's a whole-ass list you dumb polack wop guinea mick hillbilly Croatian
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/s/ships-named-for-individual-sailors.html
>or get any posthumous medals?
heaps. handed them out like candy
Read it in his voice.
Today I learned this guy was actually real and not invented by that trash movie. Dunno about a carrier, but name a destroyer or a logistics ship after him.
Yes
homosexual
Just be glad it's named after a sailor at all and not some politician that didn't even serve in the navy.
When the frick did the USN roll out the USS Shaquile O'Neal?
>I'm sooo white, guise
Yes, we know that's all you have, but please keep your personal problems to yourself.
t. Mulatto first class Ernesto Q Mutt
This thread is making me hate /k/ so much that I wish I was a russia-fan so I could hang out in /chug/ and hate you people together with them
He's had a load of shit named after him. Including a Frigate in the 1970s. The decision was announced in 2020. We all know why it was made.
What’s crazy is like…who is this for? Ask a black person if they know who Doris Miller is, they’ll probably think it’s one of the Golden Girls. We’re cucking ourselves to ourselves, thinking black Americans will care
>they’ll probably think it’s one of the Golden Girls
Thank you for being a friieend..
For the record though, I would not think that, because I know the Golden Girls are Rose, Dorothy, Blanche and Sophia.
>/misc/ responds with gay shit
Yea, /misc/-to-trans pipeline checks out.
How was that /misc/? I doubt they'd watch Golden Girls. Great frickin show, you should check it out sometime if you haven't. It holds up.
Why do we care if they care? The man was serving his country and went above and beyond his duty. IDGAF what color his skin is, I'd rather see carriers named for Navy MoH recipients than politicians.
Give them a community center they still hate whites. Give them government jobs they still hate whites. Give them welfare they still hate whites. Let them break all the laws they still hate whites. Name an aircraft carrier after them they still hate whites.
I'm beginning to think they just hate whites.
Black people are proportionally represented in the US mil, there is no reason to think they wouldn't care anymore than white people.
SHINES THE NAME SHINES THE NAME
>it was he who drew the fire
sorry for your lots rajeesh
...Rodger Young was a Black man
did you not know that fact?
Harry Potter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=n7QE12iGqxE
We should rename Westpoint after Harvey Milk
There's a carrier called Black person?
USS DEMETRIUS
>Black person that participated in anti-Asian violence
Interesting choice, Americans
>USS Bataan Death March
wtf
Absolutely. One of the only people to fight back effectively during Pearl Harbor, and effectively at that. More boats should be named for heroic enlisted sailors, and Absolutely none should be named for anyone who didn't see combat.
>Daily reminder that only 850 Blacks died for America in WW2. The idea that they contributed significantly as a group is bullshit they've tried to push for 60 years now. But nobody gives a shit.
Their contribution to the war economy was more than significantly.
>The idea that they contributed significantly as a group is bullshit
What if I only care about individual contributions?
and don't ask that poster what hes contributed to anything.
The you're the reason why the tech industry is full of pajeets and airliners are falling out of the sky. You let in one good one and the good one lets in all the bad ones.
It would be entirely appropriate and within correct USN naming convention to name a destroyer after him but not a carrier. The only reason it's a carrier is to appeal to the woke morons who don't even enlist.
They weren't allowed to that's the point. And the point of this man's story. He didn't have the same rights, or privledges, so him taking up the guns and fighting is more meaningful.
The screenshot material keeps coming
Too many things are named for generals and presidents, and not people who showed real physical courage in battle
>USS Big Darkie
Nah. It breaks naming convention for political reasons which I guess is the USN's forte, but still. Traditionally he'd have a destroyer named after him
The Stennis also breaks the naming convention though
And?
I didn't even come close to implying a former congressman should have a ship named after him. It should stick with former presidents that served in the USN and famous ships.
It's all moot because the navy knows how to get it's budget and Fish Don't Vote.
>It should stick with former presidents that served in the USN and famous ships.
Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, Truman, Reagan, and Lincoln served in the Navy?
Teddy Roosevelt may have never served in the US navy, but he was arguably the most powerful and influential Assistant Secretary of the Navy in US History.
Jesus Christ, you're a massive homosexual.
They were all in the armed forces
>Ike was commander of allied forces europe during WW2 famously
>Teddy fought in the spanish american war also very famously
>Truman was an artillery officer in WW1
>Ronnie was part of some army unit of actors making propaganda in WW2 although after the dementia kicked in he thought he basically took Omaha beach.
>Lincoln fought in the Black Hawk War as a militia Captain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Miller_(FF-1091)
He's got Destroyer Escort named after him. Frankly, the USN has too many enlisted heroes to name Carriers with.
You don't win wars by dying, dipshit. In either case, blacks were designated as eternal pogs, so that's not a surprise. The fact is, though, that Miller did die for his country, and deserves recognition for his actions prior to that. When a man puts on a uniform, he stops being white, black, or whatever fricking thing he was before. He's a symbol and a representative of the United States of America. As such, his achievements and actions should be equally recognized for their contribution to American power and prestige. Miller fits that bill, as did many Sailors, Soldiers, and Marines during WW2.
>850 Blacks died for America in WW2. The idea that they contributed significantly as a group is
Lmao what YouTube grifter did you get this nugget of highly compressed bullshit from I seriously want to know
kek you're right, it's actually even lower
Vatnik
Vatnik for citing wikipedia citing the national archives?
No you win wars via massive logistical superiority which allows you to blast the living shit out of the enemy while not suffering yourself. The issue is that blacks have limited economic utility and it would be more efficient to simply not have them. The juice is not worth the squeeze, they weren't as bad back then but today blacks cost the federal government about 1.2 trillion bucks a year and hispanics cost another trillion.
Why do you feel the need to defend this trash? They have no utility.
I'd be more concerned about the engine having intake issues.
They are allowed now yet remain incompetent according even to our current military which has every incentive to downplay that incompetence. I also doubt we can confirm he shot shit down whether he did or not.
Then you are an idiot who doesn't understand what a statistical mean, a statistical outlier, or standard deviation are.
He did more for his country (and will be remembered longer) than 99.9% of the fat diabetic white trash that post on /k/.
>spending your best years posting on a Laotian Crayon Imageboard. You sad fat losers
>t. Sad fat loser posting on a Laotian Crayon Imageboard
>99.9%
So you are arguing that there exists some /k/ommandos more worthy of having an aircraft carrier named after them? I agree
I don't think anyone would object to naming a ship after Ernest E. Evans, and claim it was overglorifying natives' and their combat involvement, just goes to show how mind-broken some are over blacks specifically. /misc/ is a sad joke.
>haha you chuds didja know the heroic Captain Evans was part Cherokee
this may actually be the lamest gotcha I've ever seen
especially because the guy was a famous war hero BEFORE he even died in combat
Are you actually that fricking moronic? The issue isn't a black guy getting a ship named after him, it's because it's being named after him because he's black. How dumb do you have to be to not see the difference?
>it's being named after him because he's black
But that's wrong, and you are a moron for thinking so
He was the first black man to actually do their job
kind of a big deal I guess
>The amount of white africans ITT that can't distinguish between a black guy and a Black person
>Such a thing brings out a weird sort of "ooga booga" african jungle Black person tribalism is some.
>"Ooger Booger," if you will.
I saved this for a random thread the other day but it seems the civilized minority Seethe Generator archetype is real. Causes asshurt among moronic leftoids and tribal monkeys larping as white people.
OP tries to create outrage farm thread.
>Look everybody! It's a Black person! A Black person! A NIIIIGGERRR!
Anons asks what he did. Get a quick answer. Turns out what he actually did was cool. Thread begins to focus on that instead of fixating on race and nothing but race.
You get outraged at the lack of outrage. You start reeee'ing about cuckporn and gays and trannies and accusing anons of worshipping blacks, all the while being unable to see anything besides race like your grey matter is riddled with countless little black dicks. How fricked in the head by this culture war garbage does one have to be to make all these posts and need everyone to be mad? This guy put aside racial descrimination and went above and beyond for his country. He was a cook, no one expected him - black or not - to do what he did, but he answered the call. Didn't hide or run away. A fine example of a sailor of whatever race, and that's what I choose to focus on.
Some of us decided to ignore the obvious /misc/ bait and subsequent shitshow to instead fixate on the terrible naming conventions of the modern US Navy while debating what would constitute actually good ship names
Yeah, and I still agree with that. Politics aside I don't like naming carriers after specific people in general. Thread should have remained focused on that and funny boat names. But shrieking has a tendency to drown out everything else
Could there ever be a USS Barack Obama? According to Black Ops II there will be in 2025, so we're almost at the deadline.
>Could there ever be a USS Barack Obama?
Maybe in 50-100 years, just not yext year like Black Ops II predicted because it came out in 2012.
I don't agree with naming one after Barry, but Hunter Biden should get one just from the fact that his big wiener pics were shown in congress.
Obama should be the namesake of a class of drone-servicing ship.
You mean a carrier?
Why are you making this specific question? Kinda seems like you are baiting a racist thread
>endless revisionist history movies that claim "acktually le ebin negresses got us to the moon
So you didn't watch the movie where it is explicitly shown that NASA would have succeeded with or without Harrison, but persuading some pencilnecks to not focus on race instead of results didn't hurt anything? I bet you think more women getting into college with sex-blind applications is evidence of rampant discrimination against men, huh.
It'd be better if Carriers, as a whole, were named after significant Navy figures instead of just Presidents and politicians who served in and/or lobbied for the Navy.
I really wouldn't mind if it was not a carrier.
USS Adolf Hitler
USS Rodney Dangerfield
Would have been a good name for a Bob Hope-class LMSR.
I'd prefer something a bit more respectable, honestly.
He should have gotten a Burke, and honestly, he should have gotten it a long time ago. Carriers need to go back to using the names of historic carriers; there are several dozen to choose from, so there's no shortage of them.
As a capital ship, there's an argument for using state names for carriers and boomers, but the Virginia-class has wrecked that idea.
is that george floyd?
At least he's an actual sailor. Wait until the USS Trayvon Martin and the USS George Floyd come online.
USS Chris Kyle when???
>not naming your carriers Auspiciuos Crane, Cloud Dragon or Red Castle
Nice. Also USS Truth and Reconciliation, and USS Pillar of Autumn
>USS Shadow of Intent
>USS Long Night of Solace
>USS In Amber Clad
> USS Unyielding Hierophant
> USS Ascendant Justice
> USS Dawn Under Heaven
> USS Halcyon
> USS Fighter's Blood
etc
etc
A carrier seems a bit excessive, but going beyond his station and training in defense of his country is worth having his name on something, at least.
we wuz sailorz n shiz
is why
At least we have an Enterprise again.
>Racial tensions are a major weak point of US domestic morale and coherence
>do some minor and cheap symbolic gestures to minimize racial tension problems and keep morale for black troops high
It's a no brainer m8. You don't want your squad arguing with each other over race and having 1/10 of the population feeling culturally alienated from their own team.
kek 100% of the current Pentagon scheme is to *increase* racial tensions
as if random nogs give a shit about some other nog from 80 year ago. The biggest fans of their so called martyrs like malcolm x or luther king are the usual suspect, self hating euro descents.
Might as well name the ship USS Snoop Dogg if you want them to actually recognize it. And then even its just received with either cringe or the ship being the butt of the jokes about pimpin the other female sounding ships
They should have a ship named after George Washington Carver
Not a carrier but it's not like the Presidents who get carriers named after them deserve it either
the navy completely ruined the naming scheme they had. the one they used in ww2 was perfect. destroyers were named after sailors, cruisers were named after cities, battleships were named after states, carriers were named for battles or older ships, and submarines were fish.
still hard to fathom that 25 million people died during ww2
USS Dawkins
Eh not bad choice
Better then any getto folks for sure
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T BE NORMAL PEOPLE! YOU HAVE TO BE RACIST INCELS LIKE US ON /misc/! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Bungie era Halo had kino ship names
>UNSC Dawn Under Heaven
>UNSC Spirit of Fire
>UNSC Pillar of Autumn
>UNSC Say My Name
>UNSC Armageddon's Edge
>UNSC Forward Unto Dawn
>UNSC In Amber Clad
>UNSC Two for Flinching
Now the shit writers have gone back to naming them after cities or things like "Valiant" or Infinity"
>tfw no Carrier strike force lead by the USNS Shadow of Intent
I wouldn't mind if we got ship names like Harriet Tugboat
He3 deserves a destroyer. Carriers should be named for battles or glorious USN ships, not fricking Congressgays and Presidents ffs.
No boat should ever be named after a person unless they:
1.) Served in the military, preferably the Navy.
2.) Saw combat.
3.) Killed an exceptional number of enemies or were wounded in that combat while engaged in heroic action, preferably both.
4.) Preferably died in the course of performing their duty.
These criteria leave you with literally thousands of heroes to choose from, not including names that you recycle because they're especially prestigious. You avoid embarrassments that potentially decrease morale like Carter, Bush, or Stennis.
Hannibal Buress?
I mean, he's funny I guess
you will never be an aircraft carrier
Unironically social justice aside hes a solid candidate for getting a ship named after him. Like a lot of other said maybe not a carrier but compared to other buttholes who get ships named after him he's a real hero. He's also Navy and while there are other 'deserving' world war II hero's a lot of them were army and marines. I feel like ships should be named after navy heros and generals not army ones. Wouldn't want the next IFV to be named the John Paul Jones, nor would it make sense to name the next destroyer class Chris Kyle.
Yea, the consensus is that he should have got a Destroyer, since that's in line with traditional naming conventions of them being named after sailors who went above and beyond, but he's still a better choice then a random fricking politician or other public figure who wasn't involved in the military at all.
Any Navy cross recipient deserves a ship named in their honor. However the fact he isn't getting a DDG (which are ALWAYS named for Naval and Marine heroes) but a carrier, is a clear case Black person pedestal worshipping
>I feel like ships should be named after navy heros
They are you toad
>NUH UHH I DONT BELIEVE IT
moron
>>All Navy men are trained, anon. Semper paratus
Excellent bait you Black person, well done. LHDs are exclusively named for revolutionary war battles and ships or Marine Corps battles though.
Virtue: signalled. Congratulations!
It's more that it is very hard to know if he was hitting anything since there were likely many shooting at them. The same way the ground attack forces of every belligerent vastly overestimated the effect of close air support. People think they hit shit when they didn't. It's possible he got lucky, but unlikely and the obvious propaganda value of the story casts doubt on it. Elites have long tried to get blacks invested in this society, because the elites are homosexuals who hold themselves above all others and thus most aren't racialists. Hell even in the Federalist Papers they say they wanted to integrate injuns. We the people killed the redskins, despite the government both Crown and Republic trying to countermand our will at every turn.
>what happens when you don’t let a homie cook