Does anyone use Starlink for internet? If so, how’s it working out? I’m interested but I need to check for obstructions first.
Does anyone use Starlink for internet? If so, how’s it working out? I’m interested but I need to check for obstructions first.
I've got it in an area where it's pretty much the only option. Works okay, with an average 60ms latency unless someone on the network is streaming. Then it typically will run average 80ms with 300ms hiccups a couple of times an hour. Download speeds around 50-60mbps. If you don't have access to fiber, it's probably your best option.
We have fiber right now. The trouble is that pillbillies have taken out service by stealing parts of the lines. Four times this year now.
do they think it's copper? what do hicks use fiberoptic for?
Tweakers'll steal anything. Years ago, up near Scranton, PA, they tried to steal the power line running to a fricking enormous electric dragline shovel. They cut right into a live 3-phase main power line and got turned into charcoal.
thats a comfy story
Reminds me of all those liveleak videos where wire thieves in India got charcoaled doing the same shit on high voltage lines
Kek. Some idiot did this in an industrial site we used to work at. Caught on camera sneaking up to the 3p mains load side of the troony and hit them with big bolt cutters or shears. Big fricking flash and dude runs off like a bat outta hell. Never heard from again. Wish he had burned that c**t of a place down tbh.
in beanerland not methland, but last year had a bunch of huge hydraulic lines cut on a very expensive rock crusher at work. fricking taco Black folk thought they were copper. the only applicable amount of easy to grab copper cable goes from the remote panel the the machine, and it's only like 50 feet of some (relatively) thin multiconductor since the panel is simply a remote monitor and control. stupid fricks didnt even take that.
no ones stealing fiber lmao, That shits worthless
I only hear the reason for the thefts through third hand information
you made it up
Nope. I don’t know why they are stealing it but it’s annoying.
>We have fiber right now. The trouble is that pillbillies have taken out service by stealing parts of the lines. Four times this year now.
It's funny because there is no copper in fiber
Dude shut up i heard from someone very reliable that methheads rent backhoes and dig up fiber next to the highway
>Dude shut up i heard from someone very reliable that methheads rent backhoes and dig up fiber next to the highway
Rent with what money? Every meth head I know is broke.
Dude I did not just make this up! Methheads are stealing fiber, go check your fiber right now
>50-60
mines been higher than that for a long time now
just took this test at 2:31pm local time
at night I can get 250 something
the fast.com results
starlink app results
>10mpbs upload
So they so the comc**t thing of giving you a useless upload speed. Glad the fiber in my area is symmetrical gigabit.
well most users are consumers and the bigger download looks better and makes better use of their available bandwidth
if you want higher upload speeds, you can shell out $2000 for the high performance antenna. in this case the download > upload ratio isn't artificial, the dish only has to passively listen for the download signal but has to actively transmit for upload, and phased array antennas are fricking expensive. back with the version 1 dishes they were charging customers $800 for the hardware and LOSING another $400 with each sale, only recouping with the subscription. the current $600 dish is sold at-cost, no profit margin but not losing their shirt either.
I have a gen 1 round (black) dishy and I only paid $500 for the kit from starlink
ofc this was February 2021 and the sub was only $99 back then
do you get a fixed price for a certain period, or do they just frick around when they feel like it, the way big isps do it?
once you own the dish kit you own it
the monthly cost they can change at any time
like they already have twice
Without asking anything, they lowered mine from 50 to 40 since they started to make a special discount for new customers at this price.
How does it work for corporate use?
Can I manage 100 Starling units that change location once every six months from a single platform?
Can it handle high resolution video streaming?
Looking forward to the future, but currently have some doubts investing a lot of money in a long term Starling based platform.
I'm sure it can but you'll have to go through their business channels.
https://www.starlink.com/business
I've had starlink since the early beta and it's only gotten better over time. It's my only internet provider since I fully dropped my other dsl isp after about 2 months of starlink. I'll post some speed and ping tests after I get to my computer.
Yeah works allright, costs and arm and a dick, but beats hughesnet by a longshot.
Has a higher latency than what you'd expect from wired because distance to satellite x2 + regular wired latency.
It worked at 55Mbps when I got it, and is up to 140 now.
>Can it handle high resolution video streaming?
Depends on where you are and what you consider high res. You need 50-70Mbps for 4k vid stream depending on framerate.
Best call their corporate service for more info about your off the grid e-thot farm.
>5Mbps when I got it, and is up to 140 now
whoa
I know just two
A guy who lives on a sail boat, says it’s plenty fast and works always
And a guy that lives on an industrial site (you can’t get a residential connection on one here), he says it’s great, fast too, much better than residential 5g but also 4 times as expensive. Oh and you can just slap it on your car or camper or whatever when you travel
why did they change the round antena for the square one? isn´t the round one better for signal reception?or all they do must square the shit of it, so that pleases saturn?
Worked flawlessly for a year at work.
Only downside is packing the stupid thing back in its box properly and remembering to stow it before. I wish it had a capacitor in it that would stow it on power loss automatically or something.
It reports low ping on speed tests but real world ping feels higher. It ranges from 50-200MB/s in my experience.
the new gen 3 ones just have a kickstand, no motorized parts at all. Would be a lot easier for that kind of setup. They require a little bit more initial alignment though but the app walks you through it.
Those goddamn bricks for mounting it on your roof though...
idk about the bricks. I have a gen 1 dish mounted to an old flagpole. I do have the new gen 3 router though
They have to be lead. They're heavy AF
TUNGSTEN
Oggmium
Why won't they use futuristic materials like depleted uranium? Tungsten and lead are so 19th century
hmm
satellites suck generally
starlink sucks the least
if your other options are hughes, via, or fixed wireless, pick starlink. otherwise pick hardwired
used it for 5 months, played TF2 no problem.
I saw apparently they do regional pricing because some boon docking RV channel that RVs around North and South America found out that if they canceled their American starlink subscription and then rebought it while in the shithole LATAM country they were in they were only paying the equivalent of like $19 a month or something like that. Price theyre charging white people is way too fricking high and then they raised it more.
How much of a clear sky view do these things need? I live in the middle of the woods and it would basically have to be pointed straight up to clear the trees.
as of right now with the orbital shells filling out nicely it points pretty straight up depending on your latitude.
Mine is only pointed 22degrees right now and I'm at 42lat
the newest dish they're going to release doesn't even have motors just a kickstand to get that little bit of tilt and the high end Mobile and maritime dishes are just flat pointing straight up
they have an app that tells you. you stand where your going to mount it and point phone at the sky. it will see the trees and let you l know if they will be a problem.
If I recall right, Cody, on utube Wranglerstar, did some vids a few years ago. He's high up in the northwest mountains and it was his only option. I think he was getting 120 Mbps reliably. It depends on your location. Another possible option is AT&T Business wireless. Prices and speeds are good, but only available in certain locations.
> ATT Budness Wireless
If you're going to go cell tower, get a $25 per month visible sim and a compatible phone (minimum is a Google Pixel 3a, but if you want 5G the 4a 5G is good too) as a tether phone.
Get a router that runs openwrt and put the magic ttl phrase in there.
In my case, even the cell service sucks. I was about an inch from setting up a wireless rig, with a remote antenna, mounted 10 feet above the roof on an old TV antenna mast, just to get a good signal from the 25 year old AT&T cell tower that covers my region. Imagine my surprise when, after twenty fricking years, comcast shows up at my door - there are now enough people in the area and they're willing to run the lines. Hellooo Big Boy internet.
Use it at work, mostly VOIP and not especially demanding communication, in an otherwise poor region so probably not many other nodes nearby. Average speed is around 150/30MBit, in bad weather a bit down from that. 200/40+ is not rare. Latency 40-60, good enough for VOIP. Very very rarely get small, few second outages. It's placed on a roof with a number of trees nearby, but not especially obstructing, according to app data, it has slight obstruction. Works fine even in heavy snowfall, which was surprising.
I stalled buying it when it was on sale and they put the price back up so im not gonna bother until i try my current isp's new satellite thats supposed to come out in a few months
>current isp's new satellite
bud if you're talking about jupiter 3 and hughesnet starlink is miles better
I have a lot of 140+ foot trees on my property so I’m constantly obstructed but it still works pretty well. Speeds are all over the map. 150+ sometimes and right now I’m at about 16.
I love it, except for the ethernet adapter stopped working and replacing it didn't help. Even when it worked, it sucked. If I lost power, it was hell to get working again. I live in the boonies so it's the only option.
You could put it on a UPS, if it's not melting snow, it's only consuming around 30W or so.
Not him but mine is on a UPS and does well. Only issue I've had is twice in the couple years I've had it that an update will happen and the dish won't reboot without powercycling it. I don't think it's happened in the last year though.
I have the kit, but didn't start the service yet because of the "obstruction" issue. Turns out the dishes need to see basically the entire sky. Like you can't have any mature trees within a HUGE radius around the thing.
I didn't return the kit because I've got some timber guys coming in the next couple months to take a bunch of trees around the house anyways. I'm hoping that will clear enough of the sky for Starlink to be viable.
well you could always build a really tall pole and put it on top
>obstructions
desert chads win again
Op here. Here’s my obstruction results. It stopped at 95% obstruction.
I had it for about a year or so, was getting from 53 to 135 Mbps download.
Was about $110/month. was good for me cuz I was paying $107 for up to 15 Gbps which I rarely got with the wireless ISP. Worked well for me then they came & laid fiber all over & I happened to be the first one on the list.
it's quite interesting how the internet market was in such a lull in rural areas until recently. Government money made their wheels turn I guess. I remember my old isp one of their techs saying the chances of them ever improving or replacing my line were zero. Now an entirely new ISP has rolled into town and is running fiber everywhere. Literally ate their lunch from in front of them.
We had dsl up until a couple of years ago and now we have fiber. I live in eastern Kentucky
same with me
"15"mb dsl for years then I got Starlink in 2021. Now I'll have fiber in the spring.
Current speed on fiber.
Here you can tell when it was upgraded
very nice, can't wait for fiber, gonna give my starlink to my dad who lives even more in the boonies and had fixed wireless.
Gonna miss dishy though
Got a guy at work that has it after being presumably on hughesnet or something similar. He's not a technical user but he got it setup and running somehow and he says it's absolutely awesome.
again not technical user so take with grain of salt but seems to werk for him
hughesnet is so fricking bad its unreal. You cant even load basic web pages most of the time. Video is out of the question
Is Hughesnet geosynchronous sats? Here in Australia we had a government 'subsidised' geosynced sat constellation called SkyMuster for farmers and stuff in the outback real rural areas. Absolute shit like hughesnet but now everybody's ditched for Starlink, lol (which subsidises rural customers here too - do they subsidise in America?)
From what I am reading yes they are geosync which is why the latency is completely garbo.
I don't know about any govt subsidies but I imagine there's something but its probably not specifically for rural folk, rather just low income families. Over here most of the low income families are in cities (at least the ones that the govt actually has to see and therefore care about) so cheap fast internet is much more common. In my opinion the government has abandoned some part of its rural poor population in more ways than just internet subsidies.
>rural poor population
Aren't they mostly meth/oxy addicts?
It’s a chicken/egg thing, did the poor come first or the meth?
yes and
this
some of them are beyond saving and perhaps not deserving of help but there is certainly another percentage that just got dealt a really shitty hand the way shit is going now. Not all of them drug related reasons, no, but there is a massive drug epidemic in our rural regions. Reason people call it the "opioid crisis"
use it daily in very very remote locations in Australia. best thing I have ever purchased.
my brother bought one when it was 800
he brought it my desert propert in imperial county ca and we were getting 200gb
he took it to my parents house in rural souther mexico and he gets great speeds
but its like 150 a month or so
if you live in the middle of nowhere its amazing
you can know work from some shit hole
It's fine now. Don't have a choice however