Do we like Osprey backpacks?

okay bud, we believe you

You were unironically discussing a pack for a seven day trip, you just realized how stupid you sounded so you moved the goalposts and are mad that we didn't just buy it. Stop being a moron and stop larping on PrepHole you pasty obese swine.

Doubt.
This is a gear thread. Stop recommending gear that hasn’t been manufactured since 1997.
>all day packs are the same
The number of 20L packs that do t have functional hip belts is surprising, but you’re the Anon who mentioned weight being distributed to his shoulders, so you wouldn’t understand why that’s important.

Damn, this homosexual just keeps proving he doesn’t hike. He’s so ignorant that he doesn’t even realize how we know.
>”ruck”
Holy frick, have a nice day on a week long trip that you’ve never been in and somehow requires an 80l pack

>LARPs
>Looks moronic
>Spams
>Accuses others of their own Black person behavior
Never change PrepHole

this is the exact moment that you realized you were wrong and completely shifted the topic in hopes that no one would notice
why are you putting so much effort into lying on PrepHole

Holy shit we're reaching peak brainrot

You literally didn’t even read it homosexual

>made out to look like a moron
>starts spamming slurs and has a meltdown
this is why you don't get so caught up larping on PrepHole my guy

PrepHole is unique in that people get “found out” so easily. Lack of experience is telegraphed via opinions that clash with lived experience. I could have a conversation with someone regarding the minutia of difficulty in elevation changes or the differences in backpack suspension and the merits of each. However, if that person lacks real world experience it will often be obvious. Comments like not noticing the difference in pack weight below 20lbs, load being on one’s shoulders, not knowing what a hip belt is (probably, lol), unironically using the term “ruck,”… It just gives them away.

With other topics you can usually just go by what you’ve read online and fake it. But it simply doesn’t work here because there’s too much crossover from other places.

You actually can’t carry 20lbs over distance? Yikes. Maybe invest in some exercise over a bag.

You're absolutely correct. I don't like flexing my experience because I think it makes me look like a loser, but it also really bothers me when people post wrong information in bad faith. Especially when we're talking something like long-range packing where having a pack that's bad for you can not only ruin the fun of the trip, it may have long-term implications on your health. I spent my late teens and early twenties trailblazing for humanitarian work in the Talamanca mountain range. Working specifically with the Cabecar to help build sufficient shelter and develop methods to bring clean water to the various villages scattered across the mountains. Because of this work my back is genuinely fricked, my lumbar is extremely fragile and I will absolutely need some form of back surgery once I'm middle aged. Bad pack practices is the fastest way to ruin your trek for both you and the people you're with. There are three things I think people should spend money on. Their feet, their sleep, and their pack. Some moron coming in here telling people to just buy milsurp and tough it out is genuinely maddening.

I unironically lost my virginity to tribal pussy back then but keep on with your larp about milsurp and rucks my dude

You're absolutely correct. I don't like flexing my experience because I think it makes me look like a loser, but it also really bothers me when people post wrong information in bad faith. Especially when we're talking something like long-range packing where having a pack that's bad for you can not only ruin the fun of the trip, it may have long-term implications on your health. I spent my late teens and early twenties trailblazing for humanitarian work in the Talamanca mountain range. Working specifically with the Cabecar to help build sufficient shelter and develop methods to bring clean water to the various villages scattered across the mountains. Because of this work my back is genuinely fricked, my lumbar is extremely fragile and I will absolutely need some form of back surgery once I'm middle aged. Bad pack practices is the fastest way to ruin your trek for both you and the people you're with. There are three things I think people should spend money on. Their feet, their sleep, and their pack. Some moron coming in here telling people to just buy milsurp and tough it out is genuinely maddening.

My gay lover is correct. We have submitted Everest no less than three times to plant the Pride flag on top and have rough sex on frozen mummified corpses of our oppressors. At that altitude under those conditions every ounce matters. You have no idea the toll that even a small bottle of KY and a bad dragon can have on his otter mode body in this situation. Gaia bless Osprey and Joe Biden.

Sides: Split

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dude you don’t seem to get it so I’ll lay it out for you. We’re all laughing at you. This is getting embarrassing. Anon posted an opinion. You went gatekeeper megagay and disagreed in a disrespectful manor, then you made up some bullshit LARP about exploring the jungles and fricking Indian princesses. Now everyone thinks you’re gay. Please stop.

Anon there was no (You) in that pic. You’re being mocked by multiple people because you were being dumb. This is how PrepHole works. Stop. Fricking newbies I swear.

Breaks your heart doesn’t it

Two different people, again.

>it's a schizo thread
HONKPILLED

>bro is still melting down a day later
KEK

no no you misunderstand im new here, i just posted the first time. i am number 3

https://i.imgur.com/gKXZvcZ.jpg

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if you voluntarily built facilities or utilities that have undoubtedly turned into rust under the care of ghouls while destroying your back, then you must be moronic. you could do a decent weekend trek with a fricking school backpack. day packs don't matter for shit unless you're an enlaved incan marching gold through the mountains. you just buy expensive hiking stuff so you can b-line shortcut immediately bring up "I FRICKED JUNGLE SNATCH" , christ, enjoy your AIDS and REI layaway payments. jungle construction for ghouls isn't day hiking - which essentially amounts to walking around for a few hours, which ain't shit unless you're in 100% bramble off trail or something

, who is number 1?

>bro is still melting down a day later
KEK

... did this anon just openly prove he was samegayging?

new anon, was just enjoying the PrepHole autistic bickering and wanted to clarify. Guess your immediate seething proves it for me so thanks

>PrepHole is one person
You saying you're not the anon I replied to?

you're not the anon that I pointed out was samegayging? Why bother replying then lmao

>cannot comprehend someone else could possibly reply
>continues autistic samegayging argument a day later
Like I said, new anon. You are doing the exact thing you're accusing me of. How ironic

the degree to which you're melting down leads me to suspect that you are indeed the original anon. Please continue

More seething please

>the virgin tump liner

Ah but you haven't considered that I:
>1 - Don't live in an absolute shithole where people attack you if you're unarmed
>2 - Don't give off weak paranoid b***h vibes that paint myself as a target that would be worth attacking
You have a victim mentality. Enjoy living in fear b***hboy

>or always backpacking/camping in groups
HAHAHAH
You'd be too scared to backcamp/camp alone without your lil pistol in your hip holster?
Victim mentality, NGMI

>My hips are already occupied. I'm never going disarm myself and store my weapons out of immediate reach
It blows my mind that so many people reach this insane level of paranoia and fear in their every day life

>I'm never going disarm myself and store my weapons out of immediate reach
This is mental illness or insane levels of victim mentality and fear. It is not normal to think and behave like that 24/7. You are detached from reality. I'm sorry you were bullied so badly

Think about what you are saying. You are saying that you allow fear of violence to exert so much control over your life so as to dictate where you live, but then you turn around and accuse me of living in fear. I go anywhere I want and do anything I want whenever I want. I've walked through neighborhoods at night that were police no-go zones just for entertainment and I literally saw dead bodies on the street. I do shit like that all the time. How am I the one living in fear here?

I'm the type of person who takes violence seriously enough to carry a gun though. So I'm still much better off than you even if I didn't actually have a gun. People like you would probably drop the thing and run even if you had a gun, because violence isn't part of your personality. Warriors are naturally attracted to weapons and being voluntarily unarmed speaks volumes about your potential competence in a confrontation.

And you're...

... Unarmed

I love it when the worst possible insult I can think of is actually a known fact about the person I'm insulting.

>tldr: I got bullied at school and am too dyel to defend myself physically so now must carry a weapon at all times to feel secure
There's no need for the pseudo-philosophical justification. It is what it is

It's not about carrying a weapon, it's about your insane statement that you'll never ever go anywhere if you can't instantly reach for your gun.
Which crosses from reasonable firearm culture into paranoid delusion.

I also don't go anywhere without my driver's license even though I almost never get pulled over. Is that what also extreme insanity and paranoia?

The alternative I'm suggesting is trying to feel comfortable enough in your every day life that you don't have to have your gun at your waste 24/7 to feel safe. Unless you're currently living in Somalia or some shit I'm sure a lot of the people living in the same area as you are able to go about their lives not living in constant anticipation of attack, so you should be able to as well. If the place you live is genuinely that dangerous that you're getting mugged my armed robbers on the regular then maybe you should go somewhere less of a shithole

Again, see:

>But I’m not living in fear.
Then maybe try working on this mindset:
>I'm never going disarm myself and store my weapons out of immediate reach
Because no matter how hard you cope and justify it, that is a maladaptive mindset and behaviour

By all means own a weapon/firearm. They're fun and useful. But feeling a constant need to have it an arms reach away at all times isn't normal, its paranoid, fearful and weird

>You're not telling me what the intrinsic value of being unarmed is
Nobody is arguing for intrinsic value of being unarmed. We're arguing for the intrinsic value of being okay with not having a gun in arms reach at all time, aka. not living in fear.

>In this reality you should be armed.
At all times? Are you armed when you sleep? When you're having dinner with your wife and kids? When going to a bar, drinking with friends?

Carrying weapons designed and sized for permanent on-person carry, often concealed, is a universal human behavior with precedent in almost every culture that has ever existed in the world and in any time period. Most people who didn't carry weapons in this way were slaves.

Is this you?

So are you under the impression that concealed carriers just go "hold on, I sense DANGAH!" and then run to their cars to grab a handgun until they calm down?

You put your pistol on in the morning when you get dressed just like your glasses, wallet, or watch, you wear it all day every day during every activity, and you don't think about it. Not until you need to. That's how you carry a weapon.

That's the default human condition outside of upper middle class white neighborhoods in modern industrial society

> Taking 3 seconds to put on my Glock every morning is "obsessing" over safety but letting fear of violence dictate where I live and work and travel isn't

ok

But at the end of the day I have a gun and you don't. That's what these arguments always terminate in. Nobody thus far, not one single person, has so much as attempted to explain to me what the advantage of not carrying a gun is. Their arguments consist entirely of accusing me of having some kind of psychological weakness (which causes me no problems even if present), whereas my arguments accuse them of having objective tangible weakness that has gotten millions of people killed just within living memory alone. I am in the superior position, nobody can argue that I am not. I'm sorry your government dictates to you what you can and cannot own but it isn't my fault.

NTA but
>reading comprehension
Every time I see this meme I automatically assume the other anon to be right, as it's a pretty good indicator that you have nothing to contribute.

>I'm sorry your government dictates to you what you can and cannot own but it isn't my fault.
You can own guns in my country pretty easily, and US government regulates who can own guns too. Not sure what your point is

>Starving peasants living in poverty dependant on foreign aid and charity under tyrannical governments while gangs run amok don't carry weapons
Tell me again how you've never left your state lmao
90% of the people in the 'dystopian' countries you're imagining go about their life like normal the vast majority of the time. My friends in Kenya eat beef way more than me because its so damn cheap over there, and yes none of them would carry weapons around with them because unlike your little larp fantasy, its much safer and more sensible to hand over $20 to an armed mugger and his buddies than to try whip out a knife/gun and fight them off. You'd know that if any of this shit actually happened outside of your fantasies. You are sheltered. You were bullied at school. Get over it

You very, very clearly have some kind of philosophical prejudice against the concept of weaponry, preparedness, and self-reliance. It oozes out of ever post you make. You think that carrying a weapon is somehow fundamentally morally wrong for reasons you have not explained. This attitude is fascinating to me. I think it has something to do with the feelings of powerlessness we all experience as children. I took the course of personal responsibility in response to this. You went the other way. I can walk into a room, feed some guy his teeth, and demand my property returned or some other redress. I would do this even if I had no access to firearms. That I carry guns is the result of my personality, not the cause. You hide behind "mob justice" and whatever state machinations happen to work in your favor, and assert this as being morally superior to mask the sting of humiliation. At some point in your history you backed down from a fight and you never got over it. You took the left hand path and became effeminate. The only arguments you have are philspocal and moral because you've completely lost the battle in objective reality and you know it. You call me a coward out of blatant projection. This is just my theory though.

Assume what you want anon, it's just tiring seeing my point misrepresented and strawmanned in the exact same way over and over. I think the /k/ larper must be a bit mentally subnormal

Carrying a gun is better than not carrying a gun. That has been my central claim throughout this entire conversation. Prove me wrong with your next post or just shut the frick up already.

A gun isn't very much good if you leave it at home now is it?

I have another theory. Making weapons a permanent extension of your body is clearly human nature. The historical record shows that. But some people have had this instinct bred out of them through domestication. Centuries upon centuries of serfdom, reporting to a land baron or local Lord, not being able to leave their own property, being executed for even the most trivial offenses like poaching a rabbit during a famine. These bloodlines I think possess your thinking style. Anti-gun sentiment always goes hand-in-hand with other pro-authority ideology and group consensus ideology, it's very striking when you've been paying attention to political trends for a long time. I'm almost certain that there's a strong genetic component to it.

>Carrying a gun is better than not carrying a gun
Not at the expense of a hip belt in place of a fricking tump strap.

No one in this thread thinks you’ve ever left your house, much less actually been on a hike. But keep going so we can keep laughing.

Was living in a house preventing you from inventing your hundreds of ways of carrying guns on you? Where do you store your mirrors to practice your concealed carrying of bowie knives?

>I haven't lived in a "house" in five years
Where does a rugged, gun-wielding outdoorsman like yourself shitpost for hours daily on PrepHole from then? A trailer in mommas front yard cos they finally kicked you out?

>avoids the question
hit a nerve mommas boy? She bring the tendies straight to your door and tell you what a big boy you are in all your larp gear?

Again, the larper anon: where do you live and spend all your time on PrepHole from if you haven't lived in a 'house' for 5 years?

Honestly I don't know why everyone isn't living in cars. In today's economy you can move up the ladder for ten years and still just barely afford basic necessities and a one-bedroom in a building full of methheads. If enough people do this we can start throwing our weight around and pushing back against police harassment.

>sleeps in his small shitty car after finally getting kicked out by parents
>uses larping to cope that it's a choice and not that he's a homeless autist that browses PrepHole all day from his car

I'm not that anon moron

I guess I know who to go to when I need $20.

Carrying weapons designed and sized for permanent on-person carry, often concealed, is a universal human behavior with precedent in almost every culture that has ever existed in the world and in any time period. Most people who didn't carry weapons in this way were slaves.

> Just curious, how many times have you been attacked/assaulted?
Zero but that doesn’t mean it wot happen

>Is there something you're doing to attract this kinda shit?
I’m trans. Not sure if that matter.

>Perhaps it's your perception of reality thats distorted as a result of being bullied or something
No, my soul was just born in the wrong body

>I was stalked and beaten by skinhead gangs repeatedly in school.
Yes as I suspected, you were bullied at school. I'm sorry that you went through that but it doesn't mean that your attitude now is normal and that everyone else is wrong. You are the maladapted one as a result of the bullying. It's understandable but it's still not healthy

It's not having a gun/knife that shows how insane and fearful you are, it's this mindset:
>I'm never going disarm myself and store my weapons out of immediate reach

You didn't experiment with all kinds of crazy concealment techniques in front of a full body mirror when you were in highschool? You never cut a hole through your pocket to accommodate a large fixed blade? What were you doing instead, sportsball?

If you don't have a pair of pants with "the hole" then you're not for real. You're not hard.

>But I’m not living in fear.
Then maybe try working on this mindset:
>I'm never going disarm myself and store my weapons out of immediate reach
Because no matter how hard you cope and justify it, that is a maladaptive mindset and behaviour

>letting feral criminals take over your country from the inside out without resistance isn't.
Please don’t start shooting people

Why not? Are you broke?