Do veterans in foreign countries make their military service their entire identity like in the US?
Do veterans in foreign countries make their military service their entire identity like in the US?
Do veterans in foreign countries make their military service their entire identity like in the US?
Truth to be told not lot of counties have veterans. And one who do actually had to fought not sit in shade and call air support.
Not comparable. In a lot of european countries, mine included, military service is mandatory. So basically everyone above the age of 18 has to go through at least 6 months of basic training. That already largely changes the perception of the military as this cool big thing. Instead its more seen as somewhat of a steppingstone from being a boy to being an adult man. Most do their 6 months and move on with their life, others stay because they like it. Its really just seen like any other job here.
>others stay because they like it
I've mostly seen people stay that wouldn't get a decent job outside the military. Almost all our NCOs were moronic or socially inept.
The few that were decent human beings were mostly stuck without chance of promotion and would eventually be kicked out.
true. the upper enlisted in the military is 15% gung ho dig it lifers, the other 85% are people who believe they can't hack it in a world where they aren't told exactly what to do at all times and/or have some degree of Stockholm syndrome and have advanced because the people who would be promoted over them left for greener pastures.
I don't know most of my relatives don't. My grandfather was part of the VFW but he also had 3 bronze stars and fought as a tank commander under Patton from the beggining to the end. I dont think anyone else in my family ever wore veteran clothing, marched in a parade or uses veteran discounts.
It doesn't even happen in the US despite what morons claim. Most vets will never bring up their military service unless talking with another vet. I had a teacher in high school that was a Vietnam vet and Another who was a Korean war vet and they never spoke on veterans day and my ROTC instructors always complained about why they wouldn't do it. I asked them, Vietnam vet genuinely hated the experience and was happy to get out alive and the Korean vet said he didn't feel proud of anything he did there. Not all vets are going ho about their service
I see veteran plates, veteran tattoos, veteran hats, veteran bumper stickers, veteran shirts and vets asking for their vet discount everywhere. Youre full of shit.
There are a lot of vets out there.
You don't notice the inverse, moron. You could pass 100 vets and 1 does as you described, so you have the takeway it's indicative of all vets.
its this, you're only aware of the ones who do make it their entire personality because they're the only ones making themselves known obviously.
Those are only veterans of foreign wars. In the US, ANY military service in any branch during peace or war time makes you a veteran. As long as you serve till the end of your time and get honorably discharged you're a veteran and you can get all those veteran discounts and shit.
Yes my dad was a combat vet in Vietnam, two tours. Really fricked him up, I mean he was a successful respiratory therapist but he would get have nightmares and wake up screaming his friends names and shits sometimes all the way up till he died a few years ago. He wouldn't talk about it either usually, would get upset if I would ask specific questions sometimes when I was a kid. He never wanted volunteered the information he was a vet to new people. Refused to ever get those veteran discounts or anything. He had thrown away his purple hearts and stuff before I was born, which pissed me off as a kid because I would've liked to have all that stuff.
It's not those kind of guys you see with those bumper stickers and all that shit. 99% of the time it's guys who didn't do shit in the military, certainly didn't go to combat in a foreign war.
Oh you can bet your sweet cheeks it does.
Right now the thing “to do” is start apparel companies with vaguely patriotic sayings and on every anniversary of a teammates death make an Instagram post with a corny paragraph, use of the words “brotherhood”, “warriors”, and “sacrifice”, all the while singing patriotic praises and wondering why anyone could hate this country when it’s been so good to you and is the “greatest country in the world” where anyone can make it, said , of course , from a! upper middle class upbringing in New England with a household of atleast 6 different forms of income with parents who sold their land they bought in 1975 for millions.
That's oddly specific anon
Bump before a somewhat interesting bread is deleted for more ukraine and russia shit
>We can still kick ass
You mean suck the circumcised israelite dicks presented to you boomer fricks?
you internet tough guys sure do talk about specific type of dicks a lot.
makes one wonder.
nothing to guess, anon wants to be dom'd by fat boomer vets and take a slow ride on his john deer tractor
Definitely not in the European countries I've lived in. Less of the cop bootlickery too. Don't know about others.
Yugoslavian I know who did a lot on the Bosnian side of things against Croatia and then Serbia, in particular in the 1st division that held out in the capitol city, wasn't like that at all.
He held certain amount of pride for what he managed, but it did not define him at all; it was just the most badass thing he ever did.
But he wasn't a normal foot soldier, he was a Colonel equivalent, so it may be very different for officers.
Bong here. No, not even remotely. And since the 80s we’ve been in more wars than the US thanks to the falklands war. I’ve literally never seen a Brit wearing anything that identifies them as a veteran unless it’s specifically for Remembrance Day and they’re in uniform.
I have a friend from the UK, he said that if you went around there waving and fetishizing their flag into art and decoration and everything that is so common here in the US as regards being patriot, that you would be seen as some far right nationalist schizo. Here it's totally normal. Depending on the part of the country you're in, it's almost expected.
Europeans can't be patriotic without killing each other.
You just wish you were white Pedro.
it's normal everywhere, its just that in places like the UK many people have some form of mental illness inducing an irrational sense of shame in their very existence.
patriotism is normal. liking your people is normal. it's fricking weird to be repulsed by it.
No, the kind of flag-styled clothing and shit that he's talking about is most definitely not normal everywhere. What's kinda normal in the US for such will make people roll their eyes in most of the western world, and what makes people roll their eyes in the US is a clear sign of serious mental health issues elsewhere.
That your behaviour isn't universally seen as totally normal worldwide may be a shock to you, but that's how it is. Don't worry, no matter how crushing the panic attack feels like right now you will have completely forgotten about you not being the absolute gold standard for normal in a few minutes.
in my experience only POG's and people who never deployed in a combat arms role are the most gung ho about their service. that or their wives.
Sometimes. I knew this Vietnam Vet who moved from the Midwest to NYC after being honorably discharged. Not sure if he was really a vet or was stolen valor but if he wasn't crazy before the war he sure as frick was afterwards. Fricker drives for Uber now. Always asks me if I'm talking to him and talks about the rain. Motherfricker it's goddamn July, what rain you schizo motherfricker.
He wore cowboy boots everywhere too funnily enough
I love how no one mentions that the veteran community are bigger welfare queens that inner city single black women. Military disability is the biggest scam and a huge drain on our country.
Nope, I turn up for ANZAC day and still make an effort to keep in touch with friends in the services but we're mostly invisible to society in general. I have a few friends in the US marines and rangers I still keep in touch with as well, they're pretty quiet about their time as far as I know compared to the boomers from earlier conflicts