>“From a gunsmith’s point of view,” said Eyster, “it’s easier and more economical for a manufacturer to produce an accurate over/under than a side-by-side. As a result, over/under shotguns can be priced more reasonably. The bottom line is that over/unders today are simply easier for most people to own and shoot accurately than side-by-sides.”
https://www.nrafamily.org/content/the-great-double-barrel-debate-side-by-side-vs-over-under-shotguns/
The key word “accurate” is going over your head. The side by side is cheaper to produce but the layout causes an inefficient amount of resources to outperform an over under.
Assuming it is a model with duel triggers, yes. Easy choke selection on the fly. Typically set up with the right barrel (front trigger) more open say improved cylinder. Left barrel (rear trigger) more constricted modified or full. Depending on shot presented take your pick. Over and under can be configured similarly but the duel triggers are really an advantage in my experience bird hunting.
I have a stoger competition condor and the safety moves from left to right to select what barrel to fire from first I'm addition to the up/down safe/fire. It's a reasonable priced firearm and the best bird gun I've ever owned.
who knows and who cares when you can just get a proper modern shotgun mag fed from turkey and just shoot lots of rounds faster lol. makes sense best gun for shooting turkeys would be from turkey.
While you are larping about the capacity of your gay ass box magazined turkshit in hypothetical boogaloo scenarios, I'm out here hunting with my dog, actually enjoying the simple elegance and functionality of my side by side shotty in a scenario it was designed and built for.
Cope? You're telling people they should go out and buy the cheapest POS shotguns on the market. Meanwhile a good O/U or SXS will cost a grand plus. You are literally, and I mean that in the actual sense of the word, literally the one who is coping here.
Because when you have one barrel you are limited to one choke, with two barrels I have two chokes and two different effective distances. Making a more effective. I hunt with a group of guys that started out with expensive semiautomatics that jam in wet conditions and even on fair weather days always brought more birds home then them because I can select my shot better. Now they all have a o/u in their arsenal.
If they are inertia driven semiautos, properly shouldering them aleviates the issue(you are basically limpwristing a shotty). Also semis dont like dispersante for some reason. One can always go for a gas gun. Also a lot of people I have seen do not know how to clean a semiautomatic properly.
My grandfather stopped using his semi when it would jam a lot , so I opened it, cleaned the now burned powder and old oil ecrusted , foliage and possibly fungi from the mechanism , and presto the gun worked. A dbl barrel single requires only a barrel clean and proper service every decade or so (when too much oil drips doen the firing pin channel)
turkshit
From what i have noticed. Some turk companies make decent nuff gats like yilditz. While others (black aces) do not.
Still people actually managed to get them to work by lubing the shit out of them and buying ammo the gats like .
Also more often then not even reliable turkshits dont have well centered patterns but for hunting it is still usable. For HD pick something reliable well centered(for shottyes)/ accurate(for rifled guns) maveri/k/ 88 comes to mind, a benelli nove mossbergs or remingtons might not be bad. >Its a gun it will fire but it is not going to last or needs workarounds. Old pumps , semis might be a better fit for shoestring budgets unless you are buying something for shits and giggles like a 410 dbl or something
While in theory a new side by side might be the same price as an over under, it is a fact that you can go to any random gun store anywhere in the US and find an entire row of used side by side shotguns that are all priced around the cost of a prime rib dinner for two. The phenomenon does not extend to over unders.
Ussually slightly lighter. The barrels boint thorwards the middle so might be easyer to find the bead for some ond your up down plane doesnt need to be regulated . Some people like how it fits. Sxs Looks better IMO. Maybe more suited to upland game due to being slightly handyer then an OU. Clay shooting is dominated by OU for some reason (prolly better for that but that is about it). Slug direction might be a slight issue. Ou can have a stronger action due to everything being inline with the stock and having the space to add side supports to at least the bottom barrel. Frankly for hunting it doesnt matter as much. I like sxs shottyes.dont have one yet but want one in 16 or smaller gauges., still need buy a 22 lr , I inherited a 300 winmag, 2 12 gauge, an old OU and a gas semi and they are heavy to lugaround on a mountain through thicc bushes and rocky terrain
they don't fire all at once. It's for yuros, either in countries where they limit the number of guns you can own, or yuros who were officers in the army and could only bring 1 gun either for regulation or logistical reasons to the place they wanted to hunt.
See paradox chokes, which is a shotgun with a rifled choke so a bong stationed in india could hunt basically any animal with a single gun should they be out hunting a bird and see a deer or some shit they wanted to shoot
O/U is more accurate because its easier to compensate on the vertical axis than the horizontal. Recoil is also more "ergonomic", if it makes any sense, so most people can keep shooting for longer periods without tiring (also why "more accurate" comes to mind even if both are just scatterguns)
They're generally identical, the main difference is muzzle rise from the bottom barrel of an o/u is lesser, which in this case is a huge plus for a follow up shot, while a sxs does have different recoil with each barrel, it's subtle but it's there
look way cooler
I disagree but both are really cool
>both are really cool
And Pumps, Single shot, and Semi autos as well. Only box mag feed shotguns are the big gay.
Glad someone said it before I had to
They're much cheaper to make, for one. The action is quite a bit simpler.
>“From a gunsmith’s point of view,” said Eyster, “it’s easier and more economical for a manufacturer to produce an accurate over/under than a side-by-side. As a result, over/under shotguns can be priced more reasonably. The bottom line is that over/unders today are simply easier for most people to own and shoot accurately than side-by-sides.”
https://www.nrafamily.org/content/the-great-double-barrel-debate-side-by-side-vs-over-under-shotguns/
The key word “accurate” is going over your head. The side by side is cheaper to produce but the layout causes an inefficient amount of resources to outperform an over under.
O/U is cheaper to make to have to barrel regulated properly. SXS is generally more expensive to get equal quality
Assuming it is a model with duel triggers, yes. Easy choke selection on the fly. Typically set up with the right barrel (front trigger) more open say improved cylinder. Left barrel (rear trigger) more constricted modified or full. Depending on shot presented take your pick. Over and under can be configured similarly but the duel triggers are really an advantage in my experience bird hunting.
>duel triggers
how do those work? do they count the paces for you and fire when you spin 180?
I have a stoger competition condor and the safety moves from left to right to select what barrel to fire from first I'm addition to the up/down safe/fire. It's a reasonable priced firearm and the best bird gun I've ever owned.
Is it cool to go hunting with an autoshotty?
if SxS are "more expensive" how come there is no sub-1,000 O/U on the market even SxS cheapest i can think of is stoegers
Google harder maybe
please senpai
who knows and who cares when you can just get a proper modern shotgun mag fed from turkey and just shoot lots of rounds faster lol. makes sense best gun for shooting turkeys would be from turkey.
Because not everyone is a performancegay that has no appreciation for aesthetics.
Cope
While you are larping about the capacity of your gay ass box magazined turkshit in hypothetical boogaloo scenarios, I'm out here hunting with my dog, actually enjoying the simple elegance and functionality of my side by side shotty in a scenario it was designed and built for.
Stay mad, homo.
Cope? You're telling people they should go out and buy the cheapest POS shotguns on the market. Meanwhile a good O/U or SXS will cost a grand plus. You are literally, and I mean that in the actual sense of the word, literally the one who is coping here.
Is there anyone that makes premium semi auto shotguns with similar aesthetics to high end double barrel shotguns?
Yeah, Beretta's done some.
Cosmi Americo & Figlio
Benelli magnifico, and Cosmi to my knowledge
turkshit
They are more elegant and you can build a nimbler package.
If you just want to shoot clays all day long, O/U is the way.
You do not hunt, anon.
just let people enjoy things you obese mongoloid
Because when you have one barrel you are limited to one choke, with two barrels I have two chokes and two different effective distances. Making a more effective. I hunt with a group of guys that started out with expensive semiautomatics that jam in wet conditions and even on fair weather days always brought more birds home then them because I can select my shot better. Now they all have a o/u in their arsenal.
If they are inertia driven semiautos, properly shouldering them aleviates the issue(you are basically limpwristing a shotty). Also semis dont like dispersante for some reason. One can always go for a gas gun. Also a lot of people I have seen do not know how to clean a semiautomatic properly.
My grandfather stopped using his semi when it would jam a lot , so I opened it, cleaned the now burned powder and old oil ecrusted , foliage and possibly fungi from the mechanism , and presto the gun worked. A dbl barrel single requires only a barrel clean and proper service every decade or so (when too much oil drips doen the firing pin channel)
From what i have noticed. Some turk companies make decent nuff gats like yilditz. While others (black aces) do not.
Still people actually managed to get them to work by lubing the shit out of them and buying ammo the gats like .
Also more often then not even reliable turkshits dont have well centered patterns but for hunting it is still usable. For HD pick something reliable well centered(for shottyes)/ accurate(for rifled guns) maveri/k/ 88 comes to mind, a benelli nove mossbergs or remingtons might not be bad.
>Its a gun it will fire but it is not going to last or needs workarounds. Old pumps , semis might be a better fit for shoestring budgets unless you are buying something for shits and giggles like a 410 dbl or something
They can be lighter that's about it.
They have unparalleled aesthetics.
While in theory a new side by side might be the same price as an over under, it is a fact that you can go to any random gun store anywhere in the US and find an entire row of used side by side shotguns that are all priced around the cost of a prime rib dinner for two. The phenomenon does not extend to over unders.
Ussually slightly lighter. The barrels boint thorwards the middle so might be easyer to find the bead for some ond your up down plane doesnt need to be regulated . Some people like how it fits. Sxs Looks better IMO. Maybe more suited to upland game due to being slightly handyer then an OU. Clay shooting is dominated by OU for some reason (prolly better for that but that is about it). Slug direction might be a slight issue. Ou can have a stronger action due to everything being inline with the stock and having the space to add side supports to at least the bottom barrel. Frankly for hunting it doesnt matter as much. I like sxs shottyes.dont have one yet but want one in 16 or smaller gauges., still need buy a 22 lr , I inherited a 300 winmag, 2 12 gauge, an old OU and a gas semi and they are heavy to lugaround on a mountain through thicc bushes and rocky terrain
what if you combine the two?
And combine rifle and shotgun calibers
that shit will blow up the shooter's hand
Why would it?
have you never heard of a drilling?
He's a burger and a zoom zoom. Of course he hasn't.
they don't fire all at once. It's for yuros, either in countries where they limit the number of guns you can own, or yuros who were officers in the army and could only bring 1 gun either for regulation or logistical reasons to the place they wanted to hunt.
See paradox chokes, which is a shotgun with a rifled choke so a bong stationed in india could hunt basically any animal with a single gun should they be out hunting a bird and see a deer or some shit they wanted to shoot
The advantage is in the pic
O/U is more accurate because its easier to compensate on the vertical axis than the horizontal. Recoil is also more "ergonomic", if it makes any sense, so most people can keep shooting for longer periods without tiring (also why "more accurate" comes to mind even if both are just scatterguns)
They're generally identical, the main difference is muzzle rise from the bottom barrel of an o/u is lesser, which in this case is a huge plus for a follow up shot, while a sxs does have different recoil with each barrel, it's subtle but it's there