Do people here think owning a fully automatic weapon is illegal? It's not illegal to own any weapon at all. You simply have to acknowledge the US government is infringing on your right to bare arms and pay the illegal tax, enforced by the US government (who is sworn to protect the constitution) to get your loicenses.
It's pretty clear government employees try to sow Fear Uncertainty and Doubt (F.U.D.) in posts, and people take the bait.
Did you know that the AR15 auto sear works in the AR12 and the AR chambered in 762?
>its not illegal, you just have to do X convoluted process involving 10s of thousands of dollars and nothing manufactured after 86, or you'll spend 10 years in federal prison
in other words, illegal
>in other words, illegal
their goal is to infringe on your right to own weapons so they can steal from you or kill you if they so wish. but for anyone to react to another person owning this and say "reeeee that's illegal!!" is not correct, and you're facilitating the government owning you. taking away your weapons only accelerates that.
fear is what keeps the government at bay, and the founding fathers knew that. the government has convinced you that making them fear you is terrorism and therefore bad. obviously terrorism is not bad then because it's the law to terrorize the government.
the government, as an entity, is not a person.
>but for anyone to react to another person owning this and say "reeeee that's illegal!!" is not correct, and you're facilitating the government owning you
This
>It's another "anon pretends the Constitution isn't just some paper that politicians would wipe their asses with" thread
>>It's another "anon pretends the Constitution isn't just some paper that politicians would wipe their asses with" thread
it's another "i'm never going to do anything about it in real life because I want to command armies from my cell phone (with no liability to me if something goes wrong - but i still get credit if it goes right), but i'm going to b***h until everyone else makes my fantasy come true (then swoop in to say I was right the whole time)" response
Never said any of that shit, homosexual. It's a compelling argument that "it's not illegal because it's our God given rights!" But the fact of the matter is that it's illegal in every sense of the word because it's WRITTEN INTO LAW. Sure you COULD say "frick it" and do what you want and drill the third hole, but I can say with neigh certainty that (You) will not take your "legal" automatic to a public range or that (You) will shoot the cops who potentially get called because (You) are the exact thing you claim I am. Go ahead and prove me wrong, I IMPLORE you to spearhead the 2A revolution.
>it's illegal in every sense of the word because it's WRITTEN INTO LAW.
It's written into law in the Constitution that you have the right to bear arms and it shall not be infringed. So it's legal to do whatever you want. it's written into law.
How do you respond?
>I can say with neigh certainty that (You) will not take your "legal" automatic to a public range or that (You) will shoot the cops who potentially get called because (You) are the exact thing you claim I am. Go ahead and prove me wrong, I IMPLORE you to spearhead the 2A revolution.
Well, it's not going to work so that you get to command me to do something and be cannon fodder for you to use with impunity.
see the part about you wishing to command armies from your cell phone. you're doing that right now.
I cannot take you seriously, as you have clearly demonstrated the same pathological rhetoric as so many before you, when you never even consider any PRAGMATIC approach to achieving your ends. You think it terms of jumping straight to the end goal and it's a grandiose all or nothing "strategy" while incessantly conceding ground to the enemy. you do not have any sway with me, especially being that you have the mentality of "I'll just wait for an app to download to turn everything into what I want. THAT'LL show them!". Seen this pathology time and time again.
Be less angry and be helpful. Your goal is to insult, right now.
Also, define hypocrite.
>So it's legal to do whatever you want. it's written into law.
>How do you respond?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1
>Well, it's not going to work so that you get to command me to do something and be cannon fodder for you to use with impunity.
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it's another "i'm never going to do anything about it in real life because I want to command armies from my cell phone (with no liability to me if something goes wrong - but i still get credit if it goes right), but i'm going to b***h until everyone else makes my fantasy come true (then swoop in to say I was right the whole time)" response see the part about you wishing to command armies from your cell phone. you're doing that right now.
You're absolutely right anon, do nothing. Don't have a nice day, follow all federal and state imposed gun control, and don't be the change you want to see in the world.
Hey gloríe, your day will come, we are waiting and you are meddling with things beyond your control. An armed popular has the given right to chose their future, and if we have to put a bullet between your eyebrows to do so, we’ll shoot it.
Jfl at the cartridge illustration top left of the animation. 7.62mm is the case head size, and 39mm is the OAL.
Also, OP, an m16 LPK will not work in an AR10. The auto sear trip is not tall enough to be engaged by the carrier.
Captcha: AY-MAD
>Also, OP, an m16 LPK will not work in an AR10. The auto sear trip is not tall enough to be engaged by the carrier.
the ar10 takes 308. does this relate to ARs chambered for 762 or 12 gauge ?
When anons see “7.62” they assume you mean 7.62 NATO and not 7.62x39 when you mention AR-10s in the same post. Hope that helps.
308 is 7.62(x51). There are no ARs chambered in 12 gauge, unless you mean the “AR12” sacrilegious monstrosities with no clear standard among them
>There are no ARs chambered in 12 gauge, unless you mean the “AR12”
I guess they call the ARs chambered in 12 gauge are called are AR12s. Is the lower the same in order to reuse the yankee boogle? I see designs for high and low shelves.
"Fully Automatic" is a meme. Even on the field you're going to be firing in semiauto 99 percent of the time. And if you had more than 2 braincells you'd be able to just modify your gun yourself to be fully automatic, since the only difference between a fully automatic and a semiautomatic is whether or not the hammer locks back after resetting due to recoil. Or I dunno just learn to fricking bump fire
>the only difference between a fully automatic and a semiautomatic is whether or not the hammer locks back after resetting due to recoil.
>Removes disconnector
"Huh? why isn't my gun full working?"
this is always how people who don't know about guns talk. always the feeling of insecurity and defensiveness. go learn the things you don't know, so people don't have to hear you talk like you do. now, on with the analysis of what you're saying.
>"Fully Automatic" is a meme.
invalid response. this is you sounding mad that others have fully auto, and judging by your angst you are not trying to "help people be more effective on the battlefield". there needs to be a battlefield, but we don't have one presently, unless you DIY
>Even on the field you're going to be firing in semiauto 99 percent of the time.
no you're not. everyone should ignore your hokey comment here.
> And if you had more than 2 braincells you'd be able to just modify your gun yourself to be fully automatic,
this now sounds like you're contradicting your statements you made immediately before by advocating people DO convert to full auto, further proving you're angry ?at something? (i'd like to hear you put to words what you're really upset about here), and want to insult and verbally attack those using full auto.
>Or I dunno just learn to fricking bump fire
What is this a solution for? There is no situation that I'm aware of where this is better than controlled bursts or firing semi auto.
Your post is so full of angst, contradicting statements and statements that I'd have to guess the meaning of in order to address that it's clear you're in some inexplicable angry state about full auto.
Full auto is a very useful and powerful function to have, and you would lose a fight against people using full auto if your people had semiauto. Before you go off on another rant pretending this or that is true, let's establish that full auto can be shot in bursts and this is perfectly suitable for use.
If i were to guess the reason behind your angst, it's that you have no full auto weapons; which entails a feeling of jealousy. if you want full auto, get smart & figure it out and apply for it.
jeez you vivisected him
You're the equivalent of a "sovereign citizen" but in the firearms world.
>this passport you issued me as a citizen of your country means I’m actually a sovereign citizen
>you are arresting me for expired plates and driving without a license and resisting arrest?
>I’m going to fight you with AKs now
>gets absolutely smoked by Johnny Law
I still think the sovereign citizens are even more moronic.
>>gets absolutely smoked by Johnny Law
Yes you dumb goddamn homosexual. The reason YOU have this fear of cops is because they have made examples of people in the past by shooting them. people's lives can be worth more if they die than if they're alive (i don't know how people think living is always worth more, but that is your fallacy, not others').
If people start shooting cops, they'll back off, hence the ENTIRE REASON FOR THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS IN THE FIRST PLACE. Just because YOU die in a shoot out doesn't mean everyone else in the world also dies... the message gets sent and improves life in the future by you shooting, and hopefully killing the police.
gun always were for killing people. that is the point of the right to bear arms - to kill people, especially politicians and their agents, i.e. the police and military personnel if they escalate high enough. and yes lives are worth sacrificing. your life isn't worth infinite value,and yes your life can be worth more by you dying instead of living.
do you think wars happened and the victors "got all their men back" after they defeated the other side because "it's not fair to win and still lose lives". That has to be one of the greatest fallacies of the 21 century.
understand, that you should not expect people to take your thoughts on this topic seriously when you speak them.
your post is related to the one addressed here
, another great fallacy of our time
Great post, but this is just moronic:
> If people start shooting cops, they'll back off
This is the state we are talking about dude, failure is never an option for them. Cops are expendable and won’t back off unless told to back off. If they’re being shot, won’t that be used as a reason to militarize even more? From what I hear about police departments, they salivate for this sort of thing.
>This is the state we are talking about dude, failure is never an option for them. Cops are expendable
Can't tell if you're talking short or long term here. Expect to be killed in the short term, hence me informing you that your life isn't worth infinite value, and many people are worth more dead than alive in order to achieve long term ends.
>and won’t back off unless told to back off.
This is true and not true. Their costs go up dramatically IF they can find people to take the job knowing their going into a war zone. Not to mention they have to pull more people from the community to then fight people from the community if they start getting KILLED. It's all about killing and ending people's lives; this is always what the second amendment was for. That sends a message and you're incorrect if you disagree.
> If they’re being shot, won’t that be used as a reason to militarize even more?
You're implying this is done for free, and I don't mean just money. There isn't a magical infinite militarization route to take. Fallacies like the one you're espousing here always assume no one can perceive a peak or trough or that things were ever one way then went back to being not that way. It's not even worth getting specific here, as this common american fallacy is aplenty in amercia, and it's always been fruitless to engage.
>From what I hear about police departments, they salivate for this sort of thing.
Then you go to war. This is when you fight the enemy as they've made it clear you are enemies. This is a clear and obvious righteous reason for war. This fallacy is also related to the "you're going to trigger the apocalypse!!!"... as if you're not already, and have been, living in the book 1984..
Your life is not worth infinite value, and some people are worth more dead in the long term than alive
> Expect to be killed in the short term, hence me informing you that your life isn't worth infinite value, and many people are worth more dead than alive in order to achieve long term ends.
This isn’t an argument against what I said. It’s more like a paraphrasing. Yes ofcourse you’ll be killed, precisely because failure isn’t an option for the state. Killing them won’t work unless you can win a war against them. In order for the state’s whole “human farmer” thing to work, they need to threaten future violence, and this only works when everybody believes that they will follow through with their threats, if a bunch of cops get killed and so they back out of a particular region for good, how are they gonna enforce anything? How are they continue robbing you? They will have to adjust course eventually to make sure they’re more violently capable than the people they rule over. Otherwise they have no authority and wil cease to exist caus everyone can just stop paying taxes or whatever at that point.
>their costs go up
They’ll pull that money from other benevolent state activities/programs, or they’ll tax you more. The bottom line is, losing their monopoly on violence is an existential threat for the state and they’ll do anything, without limit, to maintain it. They can totally find themselves in a desperate situation and thus deploy desperate measures to remedy it.
These days, people are so neutered and states are so OP (consequences of technology, uncle Ted was right, etc) that the only real threat to a state can come only from another state.
Yawnnn
Yeah. Just don't get caught with a Fully automatic if your White.
>Yeah. Just don't get caught with a Fully automatic if your White.
>implying don't shoot and that your life is worth infinite value
yeah just don't not shoot if you get caught if you're white.
see here
to address existential fallacies you're likely to hold
Dude the magazine on that AK is endless how does it work?
!!! ChatGPT thread !!!
Sage
>!!! ChatGPT thread !!!
gay, contrived and moronic thought that has been getting spammed everywhere
Vet gay, prior USMC, i want a full auto MP5. My state says I do not require a license or background check before purchasing firearms or ammo. What steps do i take to get a hold of it?