Do dragons teeth even work or are they placebo?

Do dragons teeth even work or are they placebo?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Like anything, it all depends on context and how well they are implemented

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tempo tempo tempo
    which brigade will get to Crimea first?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The /k/eddit and reddit battalions are racing to see who gets to Crimea first, after that they will go straight to Putler’s palace where he will be hanged for war crimes in 14 business days

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >k/eddit and reddit
        Opinion disregarded

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you know, no matter the outcome of this war, you will still be brown Kumar

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As always it depends.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Do dragons teeth even work
      they work as intended
      but that doesnt mean they are practical or cost effective, which they arent

      >or are they placebo?
      not even

      dragons teeth had no major contribution in any major battle of WW2
      the only sort-of effective use they had was in forcing the allies around the siegfried line

      but their contribution there was limited compared to the anti-tank guns that were dug in and were the real threat
      and any static defense was secondary to having an army that could move and attack the enemy instead of waiting for them to come to you

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dragons teeth had no major contribution in any major battle of WW2
        Any major battle had enough firepower to force a retreat of defenders. The advantage of dragons teeth isn't that they magically stop an army but they mean machineguns can halt an armoured advance and buy time for a retreat or reenforcments by not letting sappers / combat engineers close enough to blow them up.
        Sure a tank can blow them up too but if they are like the top pic it's going to take a shitload of HE putting more strain on logistics.

        It's extremely rare for a single thing to decide a battle but everything that makes life harder for the enemy is good.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Any major battle had enough firepower to force a retreat of defenders.
          The massive earthenworks at kursk had trenches, dug-in guns, barbed wire, but no dragons teeth

          They were the least useful form of passive defense, and passive defense itself was secondary to active defenses in the first place

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if that .jpg is funny to you,
      wait untill you see the feeble creations ukraine is desperately making right now
      lol
      that should have been done YEARS ago

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it seems that they were more
      "warning minefield" sign
      than fortification - but that's coincidence probably

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive failed so...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did that stop the drones and ZSU on killing russians?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive failed so...
      because of mines
      not because of dragons teeth

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    static fortifications are a double edged sword and died in ww1

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You realize you are saying that during an active trench war with static fronts right?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukranaine war has primarily featured mobile war fought outside of trenches
        Defenders have primarily used the local terrain rather than trenches while russian trenches were simply swept aside

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Defenders have primarily used the local terrain rather than trenches
          What makes you think that? I'm basing my opinion on a shitload of uploaded combat footage but I know what gets uploaded will be biased toward what they want us to see.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the combat footage thats mostly nowhere near trenches
            Most footage near trenches comes from dropped munitions because immobile targets sitting in a trench make easy targets

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not talking about drone footage I'm talking about gopro / headcam footage.
              It's either trenches or urban with the rare woods.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >while russian trenches were simply swept aside
          is that way the counteroffensive got bogged down outside of Robotyne?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bogged down
            >this again
            ukranianian counter-offensives tended to be quite successful at destroying russian static defenses

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Successful in killing more Ukrainians than Russians all while Russia gained more ground than Ukraine did during their own counter offensive. Yep

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Successful in killing more Ukrainians than Russians all while Russia gained more ground than Ukraine did during their own counter offensive
                what are you even talking about?
                the counter-offensive was a success and the russians lost ground

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Omg so freaking true. Yasssss those Ruzzian orkz got put in their place omg

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/28SDmwd.jpg

                Omg so freaking true. Yasssss those Ruzzian orkz got put in their place omg

                Cope harder brown shill.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can vatBlack folk survive a day without moving goalposts?
                Counter-offensive was not stopped by dragon's teeth. Russians managed to successfully defend through constant movement such as real (not Kherson kind) tactical retreats followed by reclaiming old positions against worn down enemy force. They weren't just hanging out in trenches and behind meme pyramids.

                Also the reasons why Ukraine lost more (relatively to the TZD ratio we're used to) people and vehicles is because defending is always easier. A.k.a. the exact reason why ziggers will run out before ever reaching Kyiv.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          anon the ukrainian's offensive last year was stopped dead by a fricking minefield.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >stopped dead
            really rehashing that?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              he isn't wrong

              static fortifications are a double edged sword and died in ww1

              good these are not static and can be easily removed

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he isn't wrong
                10 rupees have be redeemed to your account, sir

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is no such thing as a static front. If there's no progress, it doesn't mean it's literally static it just means it's static in-effect for the time being. Meanwhile a static fortification is quite literally meant to be immovable.

        Laughs in Korean War: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Triangle_Hill

        I fail to see your point.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it doesn't mean it's literally static it just means it's static in-effect for the time being.

          every single place your unit sits in place FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME, is a STATIC position, thus it MUST be able to be defended.
          >FOBS
          >OPs
          >FSPs
          etc.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Laughs in Korean War: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Triangle_Hill

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >static fortifications are a double edged sword and died in ww1
      this is funny because WWI generals wanted a war of movement

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >slow down enemy
    >nail them with ATGMs and artillery fire as they try to navigate teeth
    Seems pretty effective to me. They aren't going to stop the enemy on their own but it's not going to make things easier for them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slow down enemy
      by an insignificant amount

      >nail them with ATGMs and artillery fire as they try to navigate teeth
      or attack them instead of waiting for them to come to you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is no such thing as "an insignificant amount" in modern warfare. Arty fire can be on the way in 30 seconds if a drone spots you.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do dragons teeth even work or are they placebo?
    on their own, undefended they aren't worth it, they slow down the enemy only very briefly, but if the enemy is under fire trying to clear a route they are in the open .. while drawing fire

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the way ukies are doing it it might actually somehow work
    >hard ground
    >2-3 rows
    but all rus have to do is put some improvised plows on their vehicles

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the idea is to be a detergent to attack through that location

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >detergent

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I think the idea is to be a detergent to attack through that location

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They worked for Russia

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They absolutely work.

    If they're made correctly and have a base structure beneath them so they can't just be pushed around. If they're just concrete cones put in a line with no base then they're pretty much worthless

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dragons teeth
    yes.
    >whatever it was that russia pretended were dragons teeth
    no.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dragon's teeth work, pidormids don't

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You realize everyone in this video is now dead right

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Source: it came to me in a dream

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The simplest anti-motorcar fortification is a tank ditch with the spoil thrown into a berm on one side.
    Dragons teeth are obsolete no matter who or how they're used.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the real question is agaisnt what
      most tanks will sweep this shit away but lighter vehicles might have more trouble

      in any case this anon is right theres nothing better and more cost efficient than deepholes on the ground to stop vehicles from advancing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the real question is agaisnt what
      most tanks will sweep this shit away but lighter vehicles might have more trouble

      in any case this anon is right theres nothing better and more cost efficient than deepholes on the ground to stop vehicles from advancing

      >what is rain?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ask the 47th brigade. Oh wait, they never actually reached the dragons teeth.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ops pic demonstrates that the obstacle worked as intended.

    >forced a slow in the advance
    >forced a breach
    >funneled all traffic through a single breach

    If I were FO with primary fires, there would be nothing but death in that breach and 5kmsq around it.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine should build some Polygonal forts like Fort Douaumont.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No need. /k/ assured me for 2 years Ukraine is winning and will take Crimea really soon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3 day special military operation

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          3 days to win the war was a claim by the Pentagon, not Russia. Pentagon so incompetent they believed Russia would win in 3 days to believing Ukraine would win.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60562240

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              oh ok so some random news guys in Russia said it, not Putin and not one of the Generals. Thanks mate you really showed me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                3 days to win the war was a claim by the Pentagon, not Russia. Pentagon so incompetent they believed Russia would win in 3 days to believing Ukraine would win.

                what the frick are you seething about today?

                lol must be why europe is in hysterics about recruiting volkstrums all of a sudden

                >Europe
                >Hysterics
                Mildly irritated that they have to rework their budgets to spend an extra 1% on defence so they can tip the scales of potential conflict with Russia from "Certain victory" to "Absolute curbstomp"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh my this guy still thinks Europe is going to contribute. I feel like im in a time machine and gone back to 2022

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >oh my this guy still thinks Europe is going to contribute.
                They are contributing and they are collectively raising defense budgets to the required 2%. FFs Sweden is not only now in NATO but are planning to increase their annual conscription intake. Sweden.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >conflict with Russia from "Certain victory" to "Absolute curbstomp"
                do they "curbstomp" Russia before or after the pool opens back up?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60562240

              That's some random Russian propaganda outlet.

              It as General Milley that said Russia would take Kiev in 3 days;

              https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources

              https://www.newsweek.com/even-russian-propaganda-was-hesitant-claim-kyiv-would-fall-three-days-1832754

              It's so fricking embarrassing the Pentagon gets it wrong BOTH WAYS.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally what are you rambling about?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your IQ has to be above 85 to understand. Don't worry mate, Ukraine is winning!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Your IQ has to be above 85 to understand
                I understand exactly what's going on, I'm just curios why you are upset and why you're rambling.

                >Ukraine is winning
                Its a stalemate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's some random Russian propaganda outlet.
                Which is state controlled and follows what Putin said and took down the article within a day.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >within a day
                within an hour more like

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a pre-written declaration published by official russian state media proclaiming total victory three days into the invasion doesn't prove russia expected to win in three days

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's so fricking embarrassing the Pentagon gets it wrong BOTH WAYS.
                Yes, they were stupid to believe that Russia had an actual modern professional army and not an horde of moronic rapists led by wannabe mafia dons. Putin truly fooled the west into believing Russia was a credible super power.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >implying placebo doesn't work

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's more important is: Do (anchored) Dragon's Teeth surrounded by a minefield, overwatched by infantry squads with ATGMs work? ALL of these elements individually can be worked around, but it is their combination that makes attacking with vehicles into fortified areas difficult. Dragon's Teeth 'work' in that they are supposed to be part of a multilayered defense system that discourages a broad range of strategies. They are intended to be another layer of complication in a defensive line. If they're just a bunch of toblerones on a farming road that are completely unwatched, they're a random obstacle to be removed.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well they seem pretty good for turning captured civilian populations into husks.
    I'm not sure how much utility they'd be at stopping an armoured column though. Especially if they aren't covered with Geth or Reaper ground assets.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First enjoyable post in the thread.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP made this post because DW News ran a story about Ukranians putting up dragons teeth and trenches along the belorus border.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >OP made this post because DW News ran a story about Ukranians putting up dragons teeth and trenches along the belorus border.
      see

      if that .jpg is funny to you,
      wait untill you see the feeble creations ukraine is desperately making right now
      lol
      that should have been done YEARS ago

      why the feeble token attempt now?

      why was were they not entrenched like a dragon, YEARS ago?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why was were they not entrenched like a dragon
        Breathe before you type

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For the curious, another round of mobilization has been ordered by King Monki. 150,000 people (between the ages of 18 and 30), which is about inline with the number of dead Russians to be expected between now and USA's next presidential elections given current rates. Clever monki.

    Hence the schizoid posting like OP and others.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/FZnaeZp.png

      its an increase of armed forces, not replacement. They want to get to about 1.5 million in the armed forces, they've been steadily building since the start of the war.

      Russia has had about ~75k total killed according to mediazona, since the war started, the casualty rate steadily decreasing since Bakhmut offensive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol must be why europe is in hysterics about recruiting volkstrums all of a sudden

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ah, i was wondering what blew-up. Turns out, it's going to be a bunch of ziggers when they get to the front line.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there's also been a failed mechanized attack near avdiivka, but i guess it's nothing out of the ordinary

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