Did Kherson offensives kinda saved vdv's face?

Did Kherson offensives kinda saved vdv's face?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How? They are still losing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean everytime were Ukraine had breakthrough they managed to stabilise the lines or gain some little territories and Ukrainians seem to have high casualties in this sector(correct me if I'm wrong)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >were

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >seem to have high casualties in this sector
        not proportional to Russian losses, just proportional to other fronts, because those other fronts are either a rout (swamping & capturing Kharkiv) or frozen (Donbas ruski suicide forces)
        in other words, Kherson is the only one where both sides are "pushing" at the same time, but Russians are still indubitably losing more from each exchange

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Care to provide a link to both Russian and Ukrainian k/d ratio?
          You can't because figures don't exist and especially for Ukraine.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        they need more than that to redeem themselves
        hell, by this point, even if russia military in it's entirety somehow magically turn things completely 180 and actually completely conquers ukraine. they're still gonna be considered a joke for a very long time just from all of their early fuckups. that's just how reputation works in general

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          True, mainly they're stuff of memes at this point, no matter what they do on the battlefield. Memes are eternal.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair the VDV were given essentially an impossible suicide mission, not once, but again and again and again. I can't imagine any other airborne forces around the world would have faired any better.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >gain some little territories

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ESL

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Care to provide sources for those claims aside from russian propagandists? Cause they've been doing these "phatom ukr attacks" for a while now where supposedly ukrainians attack and get repelled with heavy casualties - yet in reality there are 0 proofs to that and Ukraine was sitting in defense all of these times.
        So yeah, you could say that vdv saved its face in an alternative reality painted by russian propaganda.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >no bodies
            >some (granted not all) are pointing in the direction of the russian advance
            hmmmm

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's Ukrainians driving through their column.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Take your meds.
                None of those destroyed vehicles have a Z or O but have a yellow sticker on them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >(correct me if I'm wrong)
        The thing is, nobody knows if you are right or wrong due to the lack of verifiable information from both sides, so you full well know you can post this bullshit here to rile people up.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"nobody knows if you are right or wrong"
          >"this bullshit"
          Find the grass and touch it, asap

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fella, there are currently four sources of information from this front.
            >Russian Official
            >pro-russian telegrams
            >pro-ukraine telegrams/twitter
            >Ukrainian Official

            Which of these four are you getting your information from? The latter two have been told explicitly not to provide any information about Kherson, and are mostly abiding. The former two can post whatever the fuck they want. What kind of reliable information do you really think you can get out of any of these sources? How do you collate and crosscheck all of the conflicting information, when one side has what is effectively a media blackout?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're probably fine troops, but Russia has just used them very poorly in the early war and wasted a ton of them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they'd be decent in pretty much any other country's military, but unfortunately for them, they are (were) part of Russia's

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly this, as incapable and corrupt Russia is, I doubt their most used/trained combat unit since WW2 is that bad, more likely that the poor leadership and strategic usage is their main fault.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really, they are a glorified riot police. I mean yes to Russia using them retardedly, but even if they had a proper doctrine for using their airborne it wouldn’t matter since the vdv are upjumped thugs that are accustomed to beating down protestors

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >even if they had a proper doctrine for using their airborne
        No one has a proper doctrine for using their airborne.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, pretty much the only thing they've done since the end of the cold war is get drunk and have circle jerks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They were pretty good during Soviet times, hell, even that battle Russians had to bastardize into a last stand shows it pretty well
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Hill_3234

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >VDV
    Who?
    Oh the guys who parachuted into the black sea, that's right.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To this day this claim has never been substantiated but because it's entered the reddit collective consciousness you will repeat it every time the VDV are mentioned.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Except the footage of them doing so...

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Right. The footage. Anon's footage. The footage that you don't have.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          May we see it?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's repeated often because it's really funny, and not a single VDV unit has a snowball's chance in hell of getting anywhere close to Odessa

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Same with the Il-76 full of VDV getting shot down, despite there being zero evidence of wreckage of an Il-76 around Kiyv

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          bro there is video

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The plane full of vdv 100% didn't get shot down near any Ukrainian forces because we never got to see the aftermath footage of mangled bodies falling into fields, streets, houses, trees etc..

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The video has been posted you dumb moron. There’s not much to look at because the plane and passengers were obliterated by a SAM.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Would be interesting to take all the parade units from last year and try to follow up on what happened to them.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    vdv was doing well all along the war from ive seen, actually only part of russia that did fairly

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >vdv was doing well all along the war from ive seen, actually only part of russia that did fairly
      The Irpin convoy that had 1 survivor was them. Destroyed by AFU SF and that was when VDV had surprise and initiative.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    vdv is doing great, what do you mean?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    YES THE UKRAINIANS CANNOT FIGHT AND JUST SEND MORE PEOPLE TO THEIR UNFORTUNATE DEATHS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody said that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, he said that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's a thread about how Ukraine sends tens of thousands of soldiers into the meatgrinder in Kherson region at least once a day on here. You'd know that if you weren't a tourist.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Uh huh. Go on then, post some proof this isn't a vodka fueled fantasy. I'll wait....

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man, rumoron shills are out in full force today

    How badly did ziggers fuck up this time?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia is doing fine, thank you for asking. How is America, today?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What does America have to do with anything, Boris?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Greetings to Kansass oblast.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia is doing fine
        A plane crashing into an apartment building is "fine" now?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't happen but if it did I feel sorry for the pilot.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't know

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, I’m doing great. My LockMart stocks keep going up, my wife made us big ass porterhouse steaks and my dick has been sucked (by a real woman, not a conscript femboy). How’s belgorod doing?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >not importing a Russian twink draft dodger mailorder so your wife can stay in the kitchen while your dick gets sucked
          are you even a real American?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wait I thought they were all wiped out?
    t. unironic plebbitard newfag

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The VDV have performed well this whole war

    The
    >LE 6 GORRILION FAILED AIR DROPS
    Was a meme from false information early in the war.

    They did well in Gostomel(held the line until the ground forces arrived) and they've been doing the brunt of the fighting for most of the war elsewhere

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao, they got routed and then so did their reinforcements. The easiest bodies to identify are vdv, thanks to their distinctive shirts, and from Feb-May the vdv made up the MAJORITY of Russian casualties. Absolute slaughter of absolutely worthless troops

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Still keep trying to rewrite history bud? Ya boys got BTFO, deal with it. Prepare for a flood of dead as fuck VDV getting stomped on or dunking hard.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron just by public obituaries alone the VDV lost a double-digit percentage of it's forces in the first month in Kyiv

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      BBC found nemes of 100 dead Kostroma VDV in first month. That's 10% KIA before they were pulled out to Donbass.
      Now according to available information all Russian remaining VDV out of initial 50k fights in Kherson. By the end of this war VDV will be extinct

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Russia didn't even send in 50k vdv.
        80k of the original 120k men were lpr and dpr volunteers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They did well in Gostomel
      Yeah they were pretty good at absorbing bullets and shrapnel

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They did well in Gostomel(held the line until the ground forces arrived)
      Anon, fighting against a small number of newbie National Guards who never had a combat encounters before is hardly a combat achievement (it's a reconnaissance achievement because russians conviced ukr forces to deploy to different regions before the invasion and leave Gostomel undefended). As soon as actual ukrainian forces pulled up, vdv ceased to exist within hours.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No? Unless your are talking about Ukie VDV??

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another thread where we get told of failed offensives in Kherson
    >another thread where no videos of this get posted

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was this VDV?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So many weapons are being scavenged that I bet it's not VDV

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was from a failed VDV assault in the first days of the war

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >blocking out the dead russian because vatmorons and brown people will tattle on you to the jannies for posting gore
      never forget AJAF (all jannies are fags)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looking at dead bodies, even animals, is bad for the soul.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          NAFOcucks have no soul.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            true, so the images of dead vatniks shouldn't be deleted

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They also live rent free in every vatniks head now

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bloody sling
      that's a story for the grandkids

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Who wants free vss
      It's shit, but I guess our fellow burgers would pay a hefty sum

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It's shit
        Why?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How would the VDV’s performance during any part of this war have saved face for them? If anything it’s been one massive embarrassment after another

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the VDV has been the only unit in all of Russias armed forces that has not embarrassed itself in the entire war. They were let down hard in Kiev but considering the circumstances they did an incredible job of holding out and in Kherson they are again doing a great job of holding out against a superiorly equipped force. Can you imagine if the retards in the Kharkov oblast were in Kherson instead of them? Fucking slaughter

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they did an incredible job
      They conducted an air assault with the element of surprise, using relatively uncontested airspace, and seized an airport defended by airport security. This is not impressive. Once UKR CoC realized what the fuck was up, VDV were btfo'd by NatGrd and TDF. A 2nd air assault with a retarded amount of helis AND a ground thrust only granted them temporary reseizure of the airfield, and again, were BTFO'd.

      The VDV are not elite, are not special, they are at best: as skilled as any other regular Western line unit. Further, they clearly had the material and force ratio advantage. If anything the Ukrainian TDF and local RRB are elite specops MLG SOF Tier 1 operators for not only clubbing them once, but twice while also fending off a massive mech thrust.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They got pushed off their best line of defense Northeast of Kherson. They're going to clapped pretty badly if they don't withdraw.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What offensive? Russia hasn't taken ground in months.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The VDV as a unit has a pitiful history. Their man purpose is photo ops and beating up journalists Putin doesn't like. During the few battles they've actually participated in they've gotten their shit pushed in.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A fair assessment. I think the scale and number of fatalities has been understated, if anything.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > saved vdv's face

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      now kiss

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        nyet, we can't do this, Ivan, that's gay and forbidden

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    :~~*

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > kinda saved vdv's face

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    are all the zogbots on k still pretending ukraine are the good guys and they are winning? lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bump

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >kinda saved vdv's face?

    LOL no, I can't listen to that stupid VDV song without laughing. Maybe Russia should have given the VDV some proper training instead of doing backflips with axes for tik tok.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What optic?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1P87.

      t. not butthurt tourist

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Did Kherson offensives kinda saved vdv's face?
    no they are getting obliterated, the only ones who achieved any degree of success on Russia side in the last two months are the Wagner PMC and even they suffered catastrophic losses

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, lol.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Naval infantry and VDV are the only functional, professional units in the Russian army. Everything else is a shitshow.
    Read soldier's accounts of the Chechen wars, Russian commanders were fully aware that 90% of their army was just a glorified prison gang so they demanded that the 10% that was an actual army do the job of the entire military, which led to obscene casualties among the best units.
    Pretty common feature of disfunctional systems to punish good performance.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >In any war, there are units that distinguish themselves and others that become symbolic of failure. The 331st Guards Parachute Regiment had high hopes of being the first, but now represents the disintegration of Russia's plan for a quick war.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60946340

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