I live in Poland and require self defense. I know the gun laws here are pretty restrictive, but I need to be able to defend myself, more so than the average citizen for certain reasons. What are my options? Is there something I can make that would suffice?
getting gun permit is as much work and money as getting drivers license
and what do you need to protect yourself from exactly? its as safe country as it gets in 2023
I dont really want to go into details too much, because I really dont want to stir up the debate that I am sure will follow, but I am also transgender and I dont know if that will play a part in me being able to get a license.
My only concern is if I will be able to handle any blackpowder gun or any gun really. I am MtF trans and Im pretty slim right now, Ive been on a lot of enhancers for a while now
>Polish
>trans
Like clockwork
Look I didnt come for a lecture, butthole. Im literally just trying to defend myself from homophobic russians that hate us trannies. My life is fricking hard enough without buttholes like you coming to tell me how shit I am. I already know that, its why I can never do anything with my life but get drunk and play war thunder every day.
This has to be bait.
Its not fricking bait, its my life. You need to know what I jerkoff to as well? I love my little pony okay? Its my fetish but I just need to know how I can defend myself from russians BUT YOU FRICKING BIGOTS CANT HELP BUT SHIT UP MY THREAD
Oh hey, its the mexican again.
What? I am polish, my family is from Poland.
No-one fricking asked, now stop making us (Poles) look bad
it is, shitty one
Are the Russians in the room with you now? 2/10 for replying + spicy """realistic""" backstory
sounds like you got life problems that a gun won't solve
there is way
Have you tried not being a troony baiter-kun
Wykurwiaj brązowy gayasie, wiemy dokładnie jak działacie
Bierz te dwie kopiejki od ruskich szmat za trolerskiego posta i swoje (You) i won do buszu skąd wylazłeś
>transgender
nabyj černoprochovec a střel se v hlove
pierdol się. Nienawidzę cię. Mam nadzieję, że umrzesz.
nice google translate homosexual
You failed at google translate, my brown friend
>Here in Poland no one is celebrating
>t. humble farmer from Katowice oblast
bazowany pepik
top kek
based red and yellow neighbour
twoja stara ty pierdolona anomalia środowiskowa, do piachu kurwo
>but I am also transgender
Look, if you want to have a nice day you dont need a gun for that.
2/10 b8
And you got a bonus point for war thunder
poland moment
>because I really dont want to stir up the debate that I am sure will follow
It's OK anon, everyone has to learn for themselves why suicide is a sin. I'm sure not gonna stop you.
XD lekarz ci wypisze że jesteś pierdolnięty na umyśle i chuja w dupę dostaniesz a nie pozwolenie na broń
I'm German, but to my (limited) knowledge you're actually somewhat well off in Poland, being able to buy a black powder revolver and the black powder without any license needed. You can also carry basically any knife you want.
pepper gas - just get potent one
gel has better staying power and range while cone spray is easier to use.
Pepper spray/gel if it's legal. Don't do stun guns because they're useless. My understanding is that self-defense with a gun is still generally looked down upon in Poland, but you'd probably be better off asking on a Polish forum for details.
in Poland:
if you shoot first your pretty much fricked,
if you wait until someone shoots you what's the point of carrying...
regardless only people carrying guns are either law enforcement or psychos with death-wish - pulling gun on either of those is a bad idea
peeper spray is legal (even crazily potent ones) and its usage in self defence even from unarmed opponent is not considered felony
>also this is a bait/troll tread
That's... Either anti-gun propaganda or you're not familiar with the law. Or you're just a no-gun who's only heard rumours.
well good luck proving that a gun was the only way of defending yourself in country where nobody will carry one - especially when trying to rob you - and as there is equivalency principle - you can take a life only if your (or somebody's) life was at stake - and you have to prove it - while carrying loaded gun might be correlated with intent to use it and from there its very slippery slope and years of visiting courts...
You are allowed to use all means at hand to defend yourself. https://youtu.be/kGA-xKGL0SE
Yes, stop being such a pretentious homosexual and get yourself a proper firearm licence.
>B-b-but muh regulations
Unless you are moronic or never held a gun in your life, getting a pistol in Poland is actually easy. I assume you are not mentally ill and you must be 18 to post here, so that leaves you with just being lazy or, evenly likely, exposes you as a no-gun.
>muh blackpowder & replicas
Nig please, get yourself a normal licensed firearm before your blow your own hand off trying to safely use that shit. Or at least get a musket if you want to go that route. Never heard of any fricker getting in trouble while he had a musket on his shoulder, don't forget the bayonette tho.
TLDR' get a gun and stop with that muh restrictive gun laws bullshit that makes us look bad for no reason other then nogun teens screeching because they'd like to buy AR-15 in nearest grocery & commit mass shooting on highschool bullies just like in their wet dream.
I hope they refuse him licence because he's a mentally ill troony
>sign up with a shooty club
>pay like 4000pln a year for licence every year
>visit shooty club twice a year so you dont get kicked out
>you can own any gun you want
wow that was real had and restrictive.
Thanks anon, good to see another sane polish poster that actually know how fricking easy it is to get things legally sorted unlike that moronic propaganda wee see every other day from politicians
>such harsh gun laws nobody can't own a gun hurr durr
Yeaaaaah, youre not polish tho.
>my family is from Poland.
Post hands.
>not polish
Pięknie ziękuję anąku masz, poczęstuj się :3
>4k
what the shit, sounds pricey
braterstwo has yearly peanut fee like 50 or something like this, top this with ammo for pzss competitions starts which is maybe 250 if you use 22lr where possible, and you are done for next year
what kind of club are you talking and what it has to offer?
Delete post right now, braterstwo doesn't exist
OK grzesiu fraku
I dont know why everyone thinks this is bait. I knew this would happen. Cant just let an alcoholic polish troony be an alcoholic polish troony. All i want to do is drink and play war thunder in peace, and be able to protect myself from the russians and the homophobes and troony haters and this is how I am treated? This is exactly why I need to buy a gun to protect myself from all of you.
Why do you need to defend yourself from Russians, isn't Ukraine already doing that for you?
No actual troony would come to the place that invented the never be a woman pasta.
>No actual troony would come to the place that invented the never be a woman pasta
>Ynr the "queen" of /chug/
Terrible bait
you not only have body dysmorphia but a victim complex too. you should either not buy a weapon and not hurt anybody with it or you should buy a gun and off yourself with it so you don't hurt anyone including your family and the eyes of pedestrians who have to look at the eye-sore you are. you will never be a woman, you lie to yourself and the other's around you to bend reality that you want to see as a delusion, you shouldn't be trusted with a knife, let alone a fire-arm
Jebana mać! Ruska, czy inna śniada trolnia - abyście kutasy na psich zadach połamali.
Gdyby ktokolwiek rozważał selfdefens w polszy na poważnie - w 95% sytuacji starczy gaz pieprzowy. Nawet offbrand. Kubotan służy do wybijania szyb, a majcher do otwierania wielopaków. Czarną to się po wieczorku tanecznym w remizie skurweren szczela na Lubelszczyźnie, a ostrą... mam sprawdzony sposób na ostrą do obrony, ale Miraski, się przed wami nie wysypię, bo w KGP nabiorą podejrzeń, jak za dużo podobnych spraw/postępowań zalegnie na biurkach przed wyrobnikami dupogodzin.
>TL;DR don't come to Poland
>mam sprawdzony sposób na ostrą do obrony
pewnie stary milicyjny sposób: trzymasz lewą klamkę, załatwiasz sprawę bez zostawiania świadków, ubierasz jednemu rękawiczki żeby wytłumaczyć brak odcisków i dzwonisz na 112
>dzień dobry, napadli mje, mieli broń i była szczelanina, teraz uny nie zyją, panie ja nie pamietam co się stało
>udowodnić
i wsypać się na tybetańskim forum miłośników puszczania latawców? zapomnij pan, panie szanowny
>stary milicyjny sposób
łocoto-tonie! jaknajdalej od tych mord parszywych. ale bez założenia sprawy, rozlicznych zawiadomień, pism, kilku przesłuchań raczej się nie obejdziesz.
Pamientej synek: "...stałego, realnego lub ponadprzeciętnego zagrożenia życia(!) zdrowia lub mienia". Jebie ich twoje zdrowie, mienie, czy niemienie, ale mają stracha, że jak z cudzą pomocą odwalisz kitę, to im stos papierów na biurku urośnie.
łatwiej o tytuł rezydenta u południowych sąsiadów
you are not quirky
>abyście kutasy na psich zadach połamali
kradnę
>you cannot carry a loaded smokeless fire-arm without training and a license
>you can carry a knife but for a reason, my reason is that it's "useful" or "i took it from work by accident" or "i planned on going camping"
>you cannot carry bats, extending batons, knuckle dusters and machetes but tazers both handheld and shootable and pepper spray are totally legal, my dad had a pepper spray cannon gun thing as a trucker and it was very effective, shown me a vid where he sprays some angry russian ape through his window.
>you can carry a loaded black powder gun however you want
i myself carry either a glock bayonet or a medium sized flashlight or both, they are good tools and i train with both to be effective with them as weapons but i honestly consider a derringer or something pocket sized so i wouldn't look like a pussy b***h ass carrying a gun as actually here people will spite you for having a weapon as its common sense to just use your fists like a man, or atleast it was before foreigners started coming in.