Poorgay, $200 is a lot for you? I guess u can try midflex industries if you’re just mounting a flashlight and using it twice a year. I mean if $200 is a lot you probably can’t afford ammo to shoot often
For an intricately machined aluminum assembly made to tight tolerances and designed to facilitate the reliable attachment of equipment under rugged conditions? Yes, of course. >gun gays
How did you stumble into this neighbourhood?
Well the market is wide open for you to make the same thing on your CNC and undercut them anon.
Why not get a UTG Pro quad rail made out of the same type of aluminum as Daniel Goyfence for $150 cheaper? Unless you want to argue that 0.1 oz of weight makes a difference or that the 6061-T6 DD uses is ackshully inferior to the 6061-T6 UTG uses.
UTG makes literal, unironic trash that's not even worthy of a Walmart airsoft gun. I made the stupid mistake of buying one of their magnifiers a decade ago when I was a stupid newguns, and a single round of .223 was enough shock to knock it way off zero. If UTG makes one of these I wouldn't trust them not to blatantly lie about the materials and use the worst chink pot metal, and half the rail slots would be so out of spec that nothing would fit in them.
UTG's airshit =/= UTG Pro. Also, Chinese manufacturing is on par with American at this point, if not unironically better. A block of Chinese 6061 is not going to be different from an American block of 6061, nor is the price difference enough for a company to try and use Chinese in place of American if they advertise it as American aluminum. Companies like DD and MI don't have some sort of "secret sauce", they simply get military contracts because they're American and can charge more since the govt is paying, and in turn makes their product more desirable so they can sell it at higher prices. It's the buyers that pass off their headcanon as reality that these companies are absolute state of the art facilities that have manufacturing tolerances in the micron range. And let's not forget the simple fact real life operators have stacked thousands of bodies with milspec plastic clamshell handguards on their M4s.
>A block of Chinese 6061 is not going to be different from an American block of 6061
Except the American 6061 is actually going to be 6061 >Companies like DD and MI don't have some sort of "secret sauce", they simply get military contracts because they're American and can charge more since the govt is paying
This may be true to an extent but American shit is also infinitely more likely to be better quality and actually more in spec than Chinese shit. Even the best Chinese shit comes from American companies who make sure that the Chinese stuff is not complete dogshit.
That’s not to say that every expensive American product is worth it, or that all Chinese shit is complete garbage, but to say that they’re absolute equals at this point is either coping or noguns.
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You could ask the manufacturer where they source their aluminum for the real truth. Aluminum from a reputable Chinese company with a history of satisfied customers is only going to be slightly cheaper and exactly the same. It's not a hard rule that American will always be better than Chinese. The pay range and application requirements for the floor workers at companies like DD and MI will tell the real truth more than anything really. If they're making less than $25/hr you can bet your ass there's gonna be a "frick it, send it it's Friday" attitude amongst the staff if the tolerances of a finished product are a little out of spec. I still stand by the fact UTG's Pro line is good shit and a good way to save money on a build.
It is also the most easily installable rail that doesn’t flex and is free floated
quad rails are pretty much ascetic only useful M-loc exists and is better in every single way.
If you want to spend $200 for extra weight and less performance go for it I am sure it is built good.
Quad rails don’t heat up as fast. All my ar’s have either dd or hodge mlock rails but I’ve never seen attachments loosen on pic rails and in classes I’ve seen peoples mlock lights and grips come lose. Larger sample size and people not knowing how to mount shit? Maybe but it’s what I’ve seen
Don't know shit about the DD stuff but for something like a kac drop in rail you're better off with surplus or whatever companies the gov contracted to make the same exact product but cheaper like p&s or whatever.
>Man's Name >Backwards Flag >"Black" >"GA" >Greek BullSHIET >Intellectual Property Warning
imagine allowing such a filthy object past the mudroom of your home, let alone purchasing it for 200+ biden bux
weakest excuse for a bump, and the fact that you need an excuse instead of saying "bump" is the nail in the coffin for you.
get on the floor
you're getting leashed
bite the pillow or don't
i'm not your dad
not in that way
the weight difference is negligible in many cases. picatinny is stronger, less finicky, and is grippy. >inb4 erm it's uncomfortable
I have soft skin and my M4 RAS doesn't hurt my hands at all. if you have a sharp rail that's not a picatinny problem, it's the manufacturer's fault for leaving sharp edges
I've got a boomer-spec Colt that I've been considering getting a DD omega for. I've also kicked around the idea of spending a bit more and just getting the KAC quad rail so I can say I have a true m4gery. Any anons have experience with either? Is the DD fine or should I spend the extra and just go KAC?
If you can find the omega on sale for less than 2 hundo beans I'd do that.
Otherwise if you're paying full price for one I don't see any reason not to just pay the extra 70$ or whatever and get a kac unit on GB from some guy just for the name.
I think they're pretty much going to be same quality and effectiveness either way
My KAC M4 RAS was $180 lol you homosexuals need to figure out how to shop around. The P&S ones regularly go for even less and frickin Primary Arms was selling white label P&S rails under their Expo Arms brand for like $120 for a big chunk of 2023.
Why not get a UTG Pro quad rail made out of the same type of aluminum as Daniel Goyfence for $150 cheaper? Unless you want to argue that 0.1 oz of weight makes a difference or that the 6061-T6 DD uses is ackshully inferior to the 6061-T6 UTG uses.
Yeah if you don't mind the bulk. As far as I know this is the only drop in that converts your rail into a free float. Not even the M4 RAS is completely solid as only the top half is tension secured.
Imagine not just getting a monstrum quad rail and unironically using and enjoying it because you’re more than likely not dropping your rifle off a vehicle in the middle of a shit storm, and yes I do enjoy my rail on my budget build
I have a one on a middy with a folding fsb. Its one of the few rails made for an fsb thats why I use it. For 200ish I say grab it. Easy to install, and uninstall to clean barrel. looks good. Lighter than my BCM QRF.
>dropshipplanet
you'll get it eventually, i guess.
>$200 for a bar of steel
Do gun gays really?
>steel
>magical non magnetic steel
There are steel alloys that are non-magnetic though.
>though
Little bro got it from there and likes his alot.
Poorgay, $200 is a lot for you? I guess u can try midflex industries if you’re just mounting a flashlight and using it twice a year. I mean if $200 is a lot you probably can’t afford ammo to shoot often
I guess you would buy my shit in a jar for $1000 just to show you're not poor then, right?
Sure just to shit on you you noguns moron
Yeah I also want to eat anon's shit to make him feel bad.
I... I'm not gay. I just think it'll really freak him out, you know? I'm not gay
it's always the c**ts living paycheck to paycheck calling other poors to feel less bad about their credit card debt kek
For an intricately machined aluminum assembly made to tight tolerances and designed to facilitate the reliable attachment of equipment under rugged conditions? Yes, of course.
>gun gays
How did you stumble into this neighbourhood?
An extrusion that spends an hour on a CNC
Well the market is wide open for you to make the same thing on your CNC and undercut them anon.
UTG makes literal, unironic trash that's not even worthy of a Walmart airsoft gun. I made the stupid mistake of buying one of their magnifiers a decade ago when I was a stupid newguns, and a single round of .223 was enough shock to knock it way off zero. If UTG makes one of these I wouldn't trust them not to blatantly lie about the materials and use the worst chink pot metal, and half the rail slots would be so out of spec that nothing would fit in them.
UTG's airshit =/= UTG Pro. Also, Chinese manufacturing is on par with American at this point, if not unironically better. A block of Chinese 6061 is not going to be different from an American block of 6061, nor is the price difference enough for a company to try and use Chinese in place of American if they advertise it as American aluminum. Companies like DD and MI don't have some sort of "secret sauce", they simply get military contracts because they're American and can charge more since the govt is paying, and in turn makes their product more desirable so they can sell it at higher prices. It's the buyers that pass off their headcanon as reality that these companies are absolute state of the art facilities that have manufacturing tolerances in the micron range. And let's not forget the simple fact real life operators have stacked thousands of bodies with milspec plastic clamshell handguards on their M4s.
>A block of Chinese 6061 is not going to be different from an American block of 6061
Except the American 6061 is actually going to be 6061
>Companies like DD and MI don't have some sort of "secret sauce", they simply get military contracts because they're American and can charge more since the govt is paying
This may be true to an extent but American shit is also infinitely more likely to be better quality and actually more in spec than Chinese shit. Even the best Chinese shit comes from American companies who make sure that the Chinese stuff is not complete dogshit.
That’s not to say that every expensive American product is worth it, or that all Chinese shit is complete garbage, but to say that they’re absolute equals at this point is either coping or noguns.
You could ask the manufacturer where they source their aluminum for the real truth. Aluminum from a reputable Chinese company with a history of satisfied customers is only going to be slightly cheaper and exactly the same. It's not a hard rule that American will always be better than Chinese. The pay range and application requirements for the floor workers at companies like DD and MI will tell the real truth more than anything really. If they're making less than $25/hr you can bet your ass there's gonna be a "frick it, send it it's Friday" attitude amongst the staff if the tolerances of a finished product are a little out of spec. I still stand by the fact UTG's Pro line is good shit and a good way to save money on a build.
It is also the most easily installable rail that doesn’t flex and is free floated
Quad rails don’t heat up as fast. All my ar’s have either dd or hodge mlock rails but I’ve never seen attachments loosen on pic rails and in classes I’ve seen peoples mlock lights and grips come lose. Larger sample size and people not knowing how to mount shit? Maybe but it’s what I’ve seen
reminder to always demand that oblivious poors post their guns
Seething consoomers or projecting noguns/poorgays
Don't know shit about the DD stuff but for something like a kac drop in rail you're better off with surplus or whatever companies the gov contracted to make the same exact product but cheaper like p&s or whatever.
Why do you need a quad rail?
>need
it's called the bill of rights, not the bill of needs, sucker
>Man's Name
>Backwards Flag
>"Black"
>"GA"
>Greek BullSHIET
>Intellectual Property Warning
imagine allowing such a filthy object past the mudroom of your home, let alone purchasing it for 200+ biden bux
>not understanding the stars are always forward
moron
I understand it perfectly. I reject the notion outright.
>i am moronic but refuse to admit so
okay man i reject your notion of not being a homosexual.
weakest excuse for a bump, and the fact that you need an excuse instead of saying "bump" is the nail in the coffin for you.
get on the floor
you're getting leashed
bite the pillow or don't
i'm not your dad
not in that way
That isn't a convention anywhere but the modern army. Having the union in the top left is perfectly fine in any instance. Picrel.
Using it for advertising, which DD is doing, is considered inappropriate.
quad rails are pretty much ascetic only useful M-loc exists and is better in every single way.
If you want to spend $200 for extra weight and less performance go for it I am sure it is built good.
the weight difference is negligible in many cases. picatinny is stronger, less finicky, and is grippy.
>inb4 erm it's uncomfortable
I have soft skin and my M4 RAS doesn't hurt my hands at all. if you have a sharp rail that's not a picatinny problem, it's the manufacturer's fault for leaving sharp edges
God damn, seeing an Omega rail in an OP made me briefly feel like I was a decade in the past. Man this place was better then.
Yeah because posters and threads were organic back then and this board wasn't just an extension of PrepHole shit flinging back then.
I've got a boomer-spec Colt that I've been considering getting a DD omega for. I've also kicked around the idea of spending a bit more and just getting the KAC quad rail so I can say I have a true m4gery. Any anons have experience with either? Is the DD fine or should I spend the extra and just go KAC?
If you can find the omega on sale for less than 2 hundo beans I'd do that.
Otherwise if you're paying full price for one I don't see any reason not to just pay the extra 70$ or whatever and get a kac unit on GB from some guy just for the name.
I think they're pretty much going to be same quality and effectiveness either way
My KAC M4 RAS was $180 lol you homosexuals need to figure out how to shop around. The P&S ones regularly go for even less and frickin Primary Arms was selling white label P&S rails under their Expo Arms brand for like $120 for a big chunk of 2023.
>opticsplanet
SHIPMENT STATUS!
Why not get a UTG Pro quad rail made out of the same type of aluminum as Daniel Goyfence for $150 cheaper? Unless you want to argue that 0.1 oz of weight makes a difference or that the 6061-T6 DD uses is ackshully inferior to the 6061-T6 UTG uses.
it's a great rail and my main AR has one because I prefer quads. Expensive but it's worth it if you want a drop in FF system
just get the P&S if youre poor. or spend the $80 extra for the kac if you wanna flex the brand names. danielle defense is a fricking meme
Yeah if you don't mind the bulk. As far as I know this is the only drop in that converts your rail into a free float. Not even the M4 RAS is completely solid as only the top half is tension secured.
Samson offers a drop in free float rail too, you need to remove the delta ring to install.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1026355867
Not really "drop in" then is it
Just need 5 minutes with a dremel or 10 with a wrench
I swear they used to go on sale for $120-$150
Imagine not just getting a monstrum quad rail and unironically using and enjoying it because you’re more than likely not dropping your rifle off a vehicle in the middle of a shit storm, and yes I do enjoy my rail on my budget build
How could it not be? I have an ar (with a quad rail) that cost less than that minus the stripped lower and optic.
It is free float
I have a one on a middy with a folding fsb. Its one of the few rails made for an fsb thats why I use it. For 200ish I say grab it. Easy to install, and uninstall to clean barrel. looks good. Lighter than my BCM QRF.