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no one knows and there are zero videos released so far with a frame of the incoming projectile(s)
the size of the explosions looks variable, I wonder if it was two different volleys timed together
my guess is that they've prepared a bunch of bombs and they were sent flying by other bombs exploding nearby, free fall activated the fuse and it made them explode on hitting the ground
storing bombs with fuses instead of screwing them in right before flight is moronic, but so are russians
Right now its looking like it was either domestically developed Hrim-2 or the US cracked and sent ATACMs. Even GMLRS-ER wouldn't have the reach or punch to cause that level of damage. Tochka doesn't quite have the legs either, or the accuracy for that matter. The US did say that Crimea was occupied Ukrainian territory and targets there were valid. I have seen Russian AD being dogshit but I can't imagine they would fail to stop cruise missiles so IMO that rules those out unless the strike was accompanied by cyber and EWAR.
Tin foil kino option is covert strike by the US but I think we all know that is a meme answer.
I want to say it's Neptune, the only reason I don't is we don't have any video showing them flying in. They're subsonic, someone should have seen them.
If it was Neptune this would make it all the more embarrassing for Russian AD. It's possible tho with all that HARM spam they could have suppressed air defenses and forced them to go dark then snuck a few rounds through during that window.
>Tin foil kino option is covert strike by the US but I think we all know that is a meme answer.
Is it possible for any NATO country to sneak a cruise missile-capable sub into the Black Sea without the ruskies noticing?
Ok so it seems obvious now that something struck it, but what? >no one knows and there are zero videos released so far with a frame of the incoming projectile(s) >the size of the explosions looks variable, I wonder if it was two different volleys timed together >>> > Anonymous 08/10/22(Wed)19:53:06 No.54738712▶ >
https://i.imgur.com/j6YY5tv.jpg
Ok so it seems obvious now that something struck it, but what? >my guess is that they've prepared a bunch of bombs and they were sent flying by other bombs exploding nearby, free fall activated the fuse and it made them explode on hitting the ground >storing bombs with fuses instead of screwing them in right before flight is moronic, but so are russians >>> > Anonymous 08/10/22(Wed)19:55:06 No.54738735▶ >
How many of those airframes are actually destroyed and how many of them are merely no longer flightworthy and could potentially be repaired?
yeah. 100% they have in multiple instances failed to stop both cruise missiles and GMLRS. And notably failing repeatedly outside of saturation attacks where the USA is shooting 50 Tomahawks
Lol, you're right, I guess I would ASSUME that your heavily reinforced peninsula would be more resilient than a single (albeit heavily armed) ship. I suppose I need to stop attempting to hold Russian doctrine to sanitary standards
Right now its looking like it was either domestically developed Hrim-2 or the US cracked and sent ATACMs. Even GMLRS-ER wouldn't have the reach or punch to cause that level of damage. Tochka doesn't quite have the legs either, or the accuracy for that matter. The US did say that Crimea was occupied Ukrainian territory and targets there were valid. I have seen Russian AD being dogshit but I can't imagine they would fail to stop cruise missiles so IMO that rules those out unless the strike was accompanied by cyber and EWAR.
Tin foil kino option is covert strike by the US but I think we all know that is a meme answer.
I want to say it's Neptune, the only reason I don't is we don't have any video showing them flying in. They're subsonic, someone should have seen them.
>[...] >no one knows and there are zero videos released so far with a frame of the incoming projectile(s) >the size of the explosions looks variable, I wonder if it was two different volleys timed together >>> > Anonymous 08/10/22(Wed)19:53:06 No.54738712▶ >[...] >my guess is that they've prepared a bunch of bombs and they were sent flying by other bombs exploding nearby, free fall activated the fuse and it made them explode on hitting the ground >storing bombs with fuses instead of screwing them in right before flight is moronic, but so are russians >>> > Anonymous 08/10/22(Wed)19:55:06 No.54738735▶ >[...]
yeah. 100% they have in multiple instances failed to stop both cruise missiles and GMLRS. And notably failing repeatedly outside of saturation attacks where the USA is shooting 50 Tomahawks
Russian AD *can* be half competent, when they're whipped to shape, as proven by Bayraktar being rendered largely useless in the past months, and Ukrainian ground attack sorties becoming extremely rare (not exactly some great achievement, but point stands).
The thing is, to get there, they need to get their asses reamed out enough that someone high enough in the command structure actually takes notice and starts changing things from the ground up, which includes firing/punishing incompetent officers and crews.
The base commander and everyone involved in its AD very likely felt completely untouchable this far from the frontlines, which would have resulted in everyone slacking, drills not being ran properly, and general incompetence.
Just as with the Moskva, they absolutely had the capacity to defend themselves from the strike, but they simply didn't believe Ukrainians would have the means, or the *gall* to attack them, so when it actually happened, they shit the bed completely.
If they could rewind time and do it again, with people paying attention instead of twiddling their thumbs, drinking on duty and half the systems being down? The attack would have failed completely.
But this is war, there are no takesies backsies, and so Moskva remains sunk, and the Saki airbase remains crippled.
Btw has Oryx in any dingle way acknowledged that Bayraktar isnt as good now as it was in the beginning of the war?
Why do you think TB-2 isn't "good" anymore? Because you don't get to watch funny videos from the command truck on twitter?
They still operate, and we don't know how successful they are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>TB-2 isn't "good" anymore
its not that it isnt good, its that the russians have largely stopped throwing countless unsupported tanks at the problem so they dont have as many easy targets
2 years ago
Anonymous
True. Still TB-2 is irreplaceable for certain kinds of operations. TOR and Pantsyr still don't see it from what we know, or at least they can't tell it from a Leleka or other cheap winged drone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Focus on the “as” part.
I has its uses but it isnt a wunderwaffe as ms oryx tries to put it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It has its uses but it isnt a wunderwaffe as ms oryx tries to put it
It's never been. But it was one piece of equipment possessed by AFU that was superior to anything the russians had during the initial push to Kyiv. And it performed pretty well, objectively speaking.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bayraktar now performs scouting role instead of CAS(as Vatniks themself confirmed it by showing new wreckage of year old bayraktar), still miles ahead in cost:efficiency to what Russians have
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm pretty sure they still use it as an attack drone. The only reason why we don't see the videos is opsec. Once you know TB-2 is operating in your area, you can justifiably launch your expensive AD missiles at anything detected by your radar.
Might be, but I think the warhead is too small to do that much damage. it's only 500lbs on the SLAM-ER but it for sure has the range to reach that deep.
With some more rough estimations, the 500lb ATACMS warhead isn't powerful to make such a massive crater.
I'm going to tentatively say the 1100lb HRIM-2 warhead is responsible here.
Look at the before picture, every crater corresponds with an ammo shed. Warhead weight is irrelevant because it's probably eclipsed several times over by the secondaries.
They're usually in the 1000lb range, the density of the earth does sort of affect the size of the crater to some extent (softer= smaller) but hard packed, rocky ground can give you a fairly big surface deformation. Its really interesting to see the post-effects though because there's been all sorts of speculation that it was partisans and stuff (which is legit as an option) but the amount of devastation suggests a large missile strike.
Aircraft are very much big ticket items, well worth a cruise missile or something with sub-munitions to shower the area to cause them damage or destruction and anything that takes them off the line for good or extended repair times is just fricking money.
Thing is back when I used to do sketchy shit to airbases, is that you can either go large with a lot of guys infiltrating and doing the dirty business, or you can go small with additional time to get it done
Both are really hard in the sense it raises the chances of detection with the inhabitants of said airbase and even against marginally competent forces, they'll have fences, doggos, gate guards and maybe even some perimeter sensors or mine fields, along with the complication you could try the sneaky route of pretending to be Russian military.
The next step is getting all your gear in there, which is risky too and then setting up all the charges
So that's why I lean towards missile strikes- you need the armaments bunker hit hard enough to pop it as anyone (competent) won't have their munitions armed, hot and ready to go just sitting there and I'm kind of dubious of it throwing a lot mixed munitions all over the airfield by chance obliterating the high value aircraft. You want something with submunitions to take out aircraft and something with a big hit for the storage. Its slightly more believable than the presence of SF units and partisans managing to pull that off.
The final alternative, is the locals have managed to get hold of an MRLS or heavy mortar system off the Russians, in the area on the sly and then just given it the fricking beans from a safe distance- that you can pull off with partisans relatively easy if there's something nearby and you might even manage to avoid detection or alarm long enough. Then you're sort of hoping the Russians left the door open on the munitions bunker... which apparently someone did
>they'll have fences, doggos, gate guards and maybe even some perimeter sensors or mine fields, along with the complication you could try the sneaky route of pretending to be Russian military.
do you think so
go look on yandex maps the bloody fence has bits missing and everything
There's no evidence it was missiles. On the contrary, the evidence supports that it wasn't.
Both explosions had identical explosion profiles, and they happened simultaneously. They weren't different attacks, they were multiple examples of the same explosives being detonated by the same mechanism.
2 years ago
Anonymous
thats just wrong, all the avalible footage is of 2 equally powerfull explosions in very close sucsession: https://twitter.com/i/status/1556996656079507456 (listen for the sequential double bang)
2 years ago
Anonymous
not sure what you think you're contradicting there
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh just everything you said, it is more probable that 2 missiles will have the same explosion profile than hastily placed c4 blocks on surfaces of differing thickness and strenght. Additionaly the 3 impact craters are spaced perfectly to cover the whole complex, something very hard to do when under threat of discovery (the more you walk around the more likely you are to be found out). And the last thing I corrected you on in my first post was the simultanious explosions that is disproven by my video (there is a delay).
2 years ago
Anonymous
>hastily placed c4 blocks
Explosions were way too large for that, they'd have been on vehicles. The explosions and craters are also too large for any missile ukraine has or would even have access too. Tomahawks leave smaller craters.
They were simultaneous. You are aware that there is such thing as the speed of sound right
the evidence that it was any kind of missile is zero.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tomahawk
Also note the crater positions they didn't hit the building in the northwest for example, it was next to it. Also why a steel beam was launched 1200ft horizontally
2 years ago
Anonymous
again no they were by no means simultanious and none of the videos captures the the very 1st explsion only visible partial mushroom so that one must have happened before people got there phones in hand
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The explosions and craters are also too large for any missile ukraine has or would even have access too. Tomahawks leave smaller craters.
How much ammunition and fuel do you think was stored around these aircraft?
Every picture even by Russian own propaganda ministry always show piles of bombs and missiles spread around seemingly at random around aircraft.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Doesn't matter, the explosions were identical. We aren't seeing a bunch of secondary explosions, and we aren't seeing plumes from burning fuel, we're seeing two cleanly identical explosions.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dumbass there's a lot moe explosions than just the ones in that video. That video doesn't even show the big mushroom cloud.
2 years ago
Anonymous
One tiny block of C4 can do just fine if you fish for a sympathetic explosion. You just aim for the pressure and/or temperature Trashhold of the other stuff. Just like a blasting cap starts the whole charge.
A single block stuffed into the trigger slot might only detonate a a single bomb. But if that bomb is a 500kg big boy in a ammo dump? .... Yeah that will do just fine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I just don't think its dudes being bush ninjas and managing to stick c4 on everything, they were frickhueg explosions
As cool as a commando raid is its playing for keeps when it comes to risk. Though I do find it entertaining that Russian AF is even worse by a large factor compared to Iraq's circula 2003
Wrong, wrong wrong.
3 words for you: Drones with C4. This explains why nobody was caught. They just brought in some drones, possibly loitering munitions, and the drones did the legwork.
Good idea dude for an alternative attack, these are very big explosions though as you can see here
>hastily placed c4 blocks
Explosions were way too large for that, they'd have been on vehicles. The explosions and craters are also too large for any missile ukraine has or would even have access too. Tomahawks leave smaller craters.
They were simultaneous. You are aware that there is such thing as the speed of sound right
the evidence that it was any kind of missile is zero.
Plus they've bracketed the area really precisely here
https://i.imgur.com/rbba1Tz.jpg
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Looking at these images, and also see picrel, I am reasonably certain we are looking at 4 craters. And, they are located so precisely that they could fit on a grid of graph paper. Whatever it was, it can hit on the order of 1-3 meter radius of the aimpoint, where the aimpoint can be set to within a few centimeters.
So my bet is GPS guided missiles still, hits too accurate for sand people or partisans
Imagine Partisans used a 3d printed liberator to shoot a Russian liberator that was out and about and not at his post. Take his tos1 turn it 180 ° and blast Away.
3 words for you: Drones with C4. This explains why nobody was caught. They just brought in some drones, possibly loitering munitions, and the drones did the legwork.
Looking at these images, and also see picrel, I am reasonably certain we are looking at 4 craters. And, they are located so precisely that they could fit on a grid of graph paper. Whatever it was, it can hit on the order of 1-3 meter radius of the aimpoint, where the aimpoint can be set to within a few centimeters.
nice find, so according to some anons here ukkie partisans drove in a convoy of explosive loaded trucks, split up on the runway and blew everything up? it's just unlikely imo
Most, if not all, of the intact airframes will have microfractures and stresspoints after the blast, making them essentially ticking timebombs if you try to get them up in the air. It could survive a sortie or two, or it could spontaneously self-deconstruct midair as soon as you bank a bit to sharpish. >Do you feel lucky, punk?
Aircraft are fragile. Sensors even more so. All of the ones with profound visible structural damage are hard fricked - even it parts can be salvage or cannibalized between aircraft, they're not coming back. But even ones that don't appear outwardly badly damaged are quite plausibly mission incapable for a little while, and not impossibly worse than that.
I count 6 completely wrecked airframes, 3 craters where no identifiable wreckage remains which was either empty or annihilated and one plane near a destroyed building that is definitely damaged but might be salveagable.
this is sat imagry from well after the bombardment, the orks had hauled away a lot of the runway wreckage by this point. at least a dozen+ aircraft destroyed, probably everything else well out of commission
Yeah I know, you can see that concrete patch at the bottom looks like it had several strikes on it too. I was just counting what was visible in the photo itself
They moved their usable aircraft out of the base by the time the satellite pics were taken (i think that il-76 survived and was flown out). I'd say everything we see in the aftermath pics, from the piles of charred metal to the intact looking aircraft, are all irreparably damaged.
Great photo. Lot clearer than the earlier ones. Looks like all six planes in the bottom middle got destroyed. But they hauled the wreckage off the tarmac
didnt even think of that, but i checked the old photos and those black marks dont seem to be there. could be looking at 3-4 more lost aircraft. they must have been in a mad rush to get wreakage out of sight.
I'm counting 7 red losses
4 things that probably used to be planes but stopped existing in general
And 3 planes probably littered with shrapnel so much they aren't going anywhere ever again
We have no idea how many were stored in the hall. Could have been 0. Could have been 2.
Right now its looking like it was either domestically developed Hrim-2 or the US cracked and sent ATACMs. Even GMLRS-ER wouldn't have the reach or punch to cause that level of damage. Tochka doesn't quite have the legs either, or the accuracy for that matter. The US did say that Crimea was occupied Ukrainian territory and targets there were valid. I have seen Russian AD being dogshit but I can't imagine they would fail to stop cruise missiles so IMO that rules those out unless the strike was accompanied by cyber and EWAR.
Tin foil kino option is covert strike by the US but I think we all know that is a meme answer.
How would they even produce the Hrim-2s? Do they have a secret missile factory in the Carpathians? Did Raytheon lend them a factory to use?
It’s possible they could of crash built a few from the parts they had on hand and new parts made outside Ukraine. I’m leading towards ATACMs or small drones hitting ammunition stored in the open.
Lots of western support has poured into the country, IIRC Hrim-2 was supposed to be ready in 2021. It's plausible to me that while the US may have refused ATACMs they might have provided expertise and materials to produce the domestic equivalent. Maybe Poland or another country offered to help produce these too. Either way, we know it must have been some new type of standoff weapon that isn't currently in their arsenal until recently.
Doubt it but we've seen plenty of jerry rigged MLRS cancer on pick ups so maybe they slapped a few on something. I do also think they had a launch vehicle developed.
Maybe, the US did that in WW2. Seems like it would be challenging to online that in 5 months but at this point we can't prove they didn't
The development was paused in 2019 but resumed later so most of the legwork could be done already. I think the issue would be producing them under war conditions. Seems to me much of the development was finished up since they claimed to want to buy the first systems in 2021
Doubt it but we've seen plenty of jerry rigged MLRS cancer on pick ups so maybe they slapped a few on something. I do also think they had a launch vehicle developed.
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The development was paused in 2019 but resumed later so most of the legwork could be done already. I think the issue would be producing them under war conditions. Seems to me much of the development was finished up since they claimed to want to buy the first systems in 2021
HRIM-2 has its own launch vehicle. If Ukraine can keep 3 or 4 of them operational, then the only thing they have to worry about are the missiles.
Question is how many of these launch vehicles were produced before the invasion.
It's not needed. The factory that makes them still works, and it's huge. All factories that make parts work too. It just seems like russia really wanted to capture our military complex intact
It's the only plausible option. Or either Russians are outright moronic 24/7, 7 days a week, 54-55 weeks a year. Not to mention, where the frick would the craters come from, what would cause that explosion, and what would have that reach?
Anons, would you consider using precious cruise missiles and HIMARS for individual aircraft worth it when looking at cost and logistics? It would seem using them to destroy aviation fuel and ammo dumps would do more damage.
Ideally hitting both would be best. It could be their intel determined that the RU air force hasn't been effective even with its ammo intact so they possibly considered the platforms themselves higher priority. Plus destroying planes has a higher morale effect then just munitions, those jets are gonna be much much harder to replace.
A fully-kitted out modern strike aircraft is a lot harder to replace than jet fuel or bombs, especially with sanctions in place. This isn't like the tradeoff between hitting tanks or ammunition/fuel - high-end military jets are a lot less replaceable.
Aircraft are different from arty pieces, they are far more expensive and harder to replace, so if you get the chance to directly target them, you definitely should take it.
Would have to be multiple coordinated attacks, right? Since it seems unlikely there would be a chain reaction big enough to destroy the whole base like that, although what we've seen of Russian ammo storage practices so far doesn't exactly rule that possibility out.
Would have to be multiple coordinated attacks, right? Since it seems unlikely there would be a chain reaction big enough to destroy the whole base like that, although what we've seen of Russian ammo storage practices so far doesn't exactly rule that possibility out.
Seems more likely that they infiltrated it, likely due to lax security, and planted small explosives in a bunch of key areas, then blew it.
Russia seems genuinely confused as to what happened, so the claim does make sense if they just snuck in, planted a bunch of charges, and blew it sky high.
Could be bullshit though to confuse the Russians and make them more paranoid.
Simultaneous drone bombs from a partisan team could have done it too.
It was a partisan who was delivered to the base by a stealth ATACMs dropped from low-Earth orbit who threw a cigarette into two separate ammo dumps and a fuel depot and then teleported back to the Ukrainian mainland.
I was wondering about this, how do you target stuff for these long range missiles?
Do you need someone/something actively painting the target? Can you just plun in some coordinates from goggle maps lol?
There doesnt need to be, it just needs to not be undeniably proven. Its not a good look if they are caught supplying gear they havent publicly acknowledged
Thats how covert support always works. You seriously think there was any doubt it was the US supplying stingers to afghanistan during the soviet invasion? No, but they went to all the frickery of routing it via israel and pakistan anyway purely for the deniability
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Thats how covert support always works.
this is not covert
2 years ago
Anonymous
>this is not covert
Yes it is? The official support the US is giving is dramatically less than the real support, obviously
>give Ukraine all of the individual components of a Tomahawk cruise missile >file off serial and anything that could be traced back to Raytheon >Ukrainians assemble them in Ukraine >Ukrainians launch them >claim they were indigenous missiles made by a Ukrainian design bureau
I'm still in fricking awe. Putin is gonna grow another stomach ulcer at this point. Hopefully it'll be the one that gives him peritonitis and fricking kills bloated ass once and for all.
Its these things. 450kg warhead, - originally Chinese but Turks have been license manufacture and selling to international market for ages. Ukies most llikely fired them off from makeshift launch tables in Odessa after smuggling them into port (launcher vehicles cost money).
Real question is how they managed to keep launch signature of 3 large solid TBMs so suppressed out of media there should be phone of it. Could have launched from a boat in the Black Sea or from Danube estuary hinterlands west of Odessa. Daylight launch with local low cloud? One dude with a workshop and some steel I-beam could whip up a launch table in 2 days related.
That's literally an insectoid-made Iscander copy. Ukraine developed and manufactured most of Iskander missile, why would we need insectoid junk? Grim was 80% complete in 2021, 1.5 years is more than enough to complete it, even without wartime speed boost
There's probably a lot of american airbases that are the same. Here's McConnell Air Force Base. Note the civilian houses and lack of fences. It would be easy to infiltrate.
>There's probably a lot of american airbases that are the same. Here's McConnell Air Force Base. Note the civilian houses and lack of fences. It would be easy to infiltrate.
No I'm sorry, I don't note that. Could you please point out the "civilian houses" in your picture? Because looking at google maps I can see a frickhuge AFB surrounded by a lot of land and barbed wire fences.
There's probably a lot of american airbases that are the same. Here's McConnell Air Force Base. Note the civilian houses and lack of fences. It would be easy to infiltrate.
If it's anything like Rota (Eurogay here) the civilian housing is inside the perimeter and it's all vetted base personnel and families, the barbed wire fences and cameras are further out
2 years ago
Anonymous
you can just look at google maps, not even google car is allowed to get on roads close to airfield
It was a stealthy commando raid, I expect they made some distracton (the smoke) then bribed or just drove past some gate guard MP who doesn't give a shit and then just set off two enormous car bombs
It was, at first, several guard were stabbed with Fairbairn-Sykes knives, many throats were cut by the razor sharp blades.
They proceeded deeper and used time bombs, installed them all around the place. Everything blew up at once and when the asiatic-arabic-russo-nazis ran out of their huts in confusion, the commandos opened fire with their Sten SMGs and wiped out 100-150 putinists.
Afterwards they commandeered a russian vehicle and disguised themselves as soldiers and simple drove out of the base.
Hahaahaha kholkhols so stupid they waste magic "non-American" missiles on airbase full of inflatable fighters just like our decoy inflatable S400s stupid americans not even learn from their own joke in d-day
John here from Oregano Oblast. It is so sad to watch these satanic neo nazis destroy sickle cell infected migrant workers dressing up as sukhois for the Donbass victory parade. I for one think american should stop giving weapons and support as this amounts to but a tacit nod of approval and firm rejection of the glorious russian peoples.
Hello John from Organa Oblast. This is Kevin from New Dakota Oblast. I would like to add that the american support of weapons, supplies and decadent western wealth is not having any effect on the war, but it displays a mark of disrespect to Russian people, which is why it should be stopped. In fact, the lend lease is being stolen by Russian agents as it travels through Europe, and in fact it helps Russia win the war, but it is still a great show of disrespect for the Greater Russian Sphere of Influence, and should be ended.
Tom of Finland Oblast here. I just wanted to say that the proud Russian forces all wear such nice, tight uniforms. Guys that stylish have to be on the winning side of the conflict. I've often had discussions with them before the war at the public urinals and dockside bars of Crimea, and their arguments are very strong and easy to swallow.
Something I don't get is that the S-300 in Ukrainian service do intercept some of the missiles launched by Russia on a daily basis but here it seems that the nearby AA defenses saw nothing coming.
by what, they can't even use HARM in an anti radar capacity
Something I don't get is that the S-300 in Ukrainian service do intercept some of the missiles launched by Russia on a daily basis but here it seems that the nearby AA defenses saw nothing coming.
Air defence can't shoot down something that doesn't exist
In 2007 Russia gave Israel the old Soviet encryption/decryption keys to Syria's IADS, to guarantee that the Israelis destroy Syria's nuclear reactor. Current Russian hardware is barely a gen above the Syrian trash, so it stands that the West can now just crack all Russian/Soviet IADS codes, 1.5 decades of research and reverse-engineering later.
Civilian casualties are suspiciously absent from media reports. Just to show how biased the media are towards Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if ex-CIA execs (like that CNN guy) were behind the attempt to influence the public through the media.
Idk maybe there were no civilians on the fricking military base during the war?
Also how exactly would CNN prevent Russia from reporting on civilian causalities?
>yet no reports on civilian casualties whatsoever
At least 1 civilian died, several civilians (at least 14) injured, 60 buildings ruined https://nitter.pussthecat.org/GazetaRu/status/1557300483567616000
I bet it was rocket atacik, the rockets just exploded in the air like the nukes do, jets are pretty soft targets, so you can damage them with blast wave and heat for a further distance. Thats why craters looks so small.
>But would any special forces do a daring raid in broad daylight?
They will do whatever works, they could get in dressed as enemy personnel, place timed charges and be long gone when they explode.
>But would any special forces do a daring raid in broad daylight?
Or they did it at night with timed charges or remote detonation
Better spectacle to do it in broad daylight with a beach full of Russian upper middleclass watching.
Honestly i can't tell what would be worse, that Russian AD can't defend a major airbase in Crimea or that said airbase security is so bad someone could get charges into the base.
I doubt men were there at all. Why place a bomb in such a suboptimal position when all the rest are in good locations at much deeper points in the base?
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Looking at these images, and also see picrel, I am reasonably certain we are looking at 4 craters. And, they are located so precisely that they could fit on a grid of graph paper. Whatever it was, it can hit on the order of 1-3 meter radius of the aimpoint, where the aimpoint can be set to within a few centimeters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy frick, insane accuracy.
Makes me laugh now when I remember all rUsSiA sTonK shilling from before the war, if they went to war with NATO their military would cease to exist in 1 hr 22 minutes, nukes or no nukes, makes no difference.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Technically nothing Scapegoat says there is wrong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The Russian twist was gross incompetence
Bravo
2 years ago
Anonymous
>with a Russian twist
Picrel.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
used to be a lot of russians on /k/
Now it seems like they all migrated to /misc/ because thats the only board where they actually believe the russian ammo storage smoker story.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy moly, that's some accuracy right there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
crazy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Few meters CEP. Suspect using accurized GPS. Then again the Iranian TBM attacks were similarly accurate. The accuracy level might be normal for all non-fail-tier post-Cold War TBM guidance.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Those are precisely at the locations of what may have been ammo dumps in the above image.
Might as well have been C4 or something planted on top off munitions. And it's all along one access road, so whoever did it might have just gone down that, planted bombs, and left. Looks more like operators than missiles to me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
plausible, thinking about how Russians are storing huge amounts of ammunition in big piles
2 years ago
Anonymous
>put on hi-vis vest >walk through security checkpoint >if anyone asks just say you're new here and it's your first day on the job and for some reason those idiots in HR didn't print any IDs >drive luggage car down runway >toss bricks of c4 next to ammo dumps >leave air base >head to the beach >sip a tiki drink while you watch your handiwork
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look harder. Each crater could be cloned in photoshop they are so close to identical.
These are precision munitions strikes. Missiles or possibly guided bombs. Really big frickers. There would be no way to generate that sort of repeatability with manual placement.
Study the before & after a lot more closely:
https://i.imgur.com/Ay4G8WN.jpg
There are 4 impact craters: [...]
. Look at the exact ground zero center for each crater:
https://i.imgur.com/rbba1Tz.jpg
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Looking at these images, and also see picrel, I am reasonably certain we are looking at 4 craters. And, they are located so precisely that they could fit on a grid of graph paper. Whatever it was, it can hit on the order of 1-3 meter radius of the aimpoint, where the aimpoint can be set to within a few centimeters.
. The center for each crater does not correspond to any location that would have been manual placement of charges.
proof?
>proof?
Do some reading while you go be underage somewhere else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Look harder. Each crater could be cloned in photoshop they are so close to identical.
They're not identical and more importantly, the stacks of munitions being of very similar size to each other would account for this as well.
>The center for each crater does not correspond to any location that would have been manual placement of charges.
The centre of a crater made by closely stacked munitions would be approximately under the centre of mass of the explosive material, not near the charge that set them off. This isn't a black powder fuse we're talking about; the detonations might as well be simultaneous, and a charge capable of setting munitions off would be completely insignificant to the end effect (other than, you know, making it happen in the first place - but it wouldn't really affect the size of the end explosion).
top right crater is to the side of a building, show me ammo dump where bottom left crater is
>top right crater is to the side of a building
I didn't mention buildings at all. What might be munition crates are standing there on the concrete where the centres of craters are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
top right crater is to the side of a building, show me ammo dump where bottom left crater is
I thinks its obvious what is worse: missile strike is a strategy you can repeat on diffirent airfields again and again while this specops partisan shit is non-repeatable and does not changes as much in the grand scale.
They did in 2016. Successfully deployed but got busted by FSB. Managed to break through and come back home. A russian paratrooper and the head of Crimean Spetsnaz died in that ambush, all the Ukrainian SOF returned in one piece.
Later russians tried to blow up the car of the commander of that unit (the bomber blew up himself instead). Another attempt was made to blow up a different member of that unit, successful unfortunately.
You can read about it here https://mil.in.ua/uk/articles/rejd-gur-ukrayiny-v-okupovanomu-krymu/
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1557621932429819907 >Because no amount of sunscreen will protect them from the hazardous effects of smoking in unauthorised areas. >Bananarama
Jesus fricking christ are Ukraine MoD actually joining us here?
>I was there, children, for the First Troll War >before the 401st Meme Division was even a gleam in General xxXninjafricker69Xxx's eye >before the laser-guided NFTs and the GBM-256 Soijak
>Pic
Why does SAS using m16? Arents they were armed with slr's?
this is already 1982, anon, only a few years off peak Cold War
SAS like many SF get to use whatever the frick they want, within reason (not captured AKs usually). When they were planning for an attack on Stanley airfield they went round collecting all unused GPMGs so they could charge out spraying belts of ammo like fricking Rambo >would still have been a one way trip of course
This is one of those posts that will be tragically lost, like tears in the rain. But, I'd like you to know tat I played this through about 5 times, singing your lyrics to it. Your version set to the original music *should* be the anthem for this entire war. If there was any justice in the world.
Trying to speculate on the weapons used based on the amount of damage doesn't make much sense since most of the damage is likely from the munitions and fuel stored there. The craters coincide with storage areas and buildings.
Just a small explosive either from missile, mortar, drone or guy on the ground could have snowballed the whole thing.
HARM would be used to take out Russian radars that would like to intercept missiles. Seeing through this clever hohol tactic Vatniks decided not to turn on any of their radars
>send in a HARM, targets the AA Radar >crew either launch counters against it >or turn it off and hope >kill-missiles following in which can't be intercepted because no radar, no launch
Same as the other explosions. Ukrainian intelligence snuck in and dropped off a pallet of vodka, krokadil, cigarettes, and fire works. The Russians did the rest.
You mean what the point of the post? >satellite photo shows effect on weapon on target >satellite photo shows damage to military aircraft >satellite photo shows accuracy of a weapons system
Couldn't possibly be relevant to /k/ - weapons
Or did you mean "what's the point of destroying russian planes in an airfield in temporarily occupied crimea"
In which case the point is Russians should all go frick themselves with a cactus
What was the point of destroying russian planes, munitions, jet fuel, and logistics, as well as fricking up the concrete road surface and likely rendering the airfield temporarily unusable
Gee anon I dunno, maybe the point was frick russia.
Also, a little bit of "because we can" and "your AA is shit"
>but I thought that russian airforce was useless
Well, it certainly is now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>useless
useless at hitting their designated targets, not useless at bombing churches, schools and hospitals
?
Outdated and lacking in well trained pilots, sure. Unable to field recently developed aircraft, also true.
But am airforce is still useful even if you're only using it to lob missiles amd rockets at standoff distances.
Like yeah, RU airforce is crap compared to any competently run, modern western airforce. No one is saying it's good.
But it still has some.planes amd some pilots, can can still lob munitions - even if they're not running DEAD, SEAD and constant sorties.
it wasn't until now? funny how you trannies keep changing your stories.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Damn, this one really made you guys salty didn't it...
2 years ago
Anonymous
y'all forgot to take your puberty blockers
2 years ago
Anonymous
>reddit troony dilate zog cuck globohomosexual israelite Black person satanist homosexual israelite troony Black person troony troony troony troony troony troony troony troony troony troony troony
2 years ago
Anonymous
don't be angry
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it wasn't until now?
No, it was lacking trained pilots, modern aircraft and the ability to conduct SEAD/DEAD missions before now, too.
Now it's just lacking a few more old planes and pilots with 20 flight hours a year.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Russian air force didn't do much to attack Ukrainian held territory but it still provided a deterrent against Ukrainian air force attacks on Russian held territory.
what a bunch of sad larpers you are
2 years ago
Anonymous
Saying russia doesn't have modern aircraft is larping?
My dude, the su57 is vaporware.
You know it in your heart.
Don't lie to yourself like this, you're better than that vatnik-kun
2 years ago
Anonymous
f22 is a quarter of a century old.
get better lines.
2 years ago
Anonymous
uh huh, and the f35?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>and the f35
is a mangled f22
2 years ago
Anonymous
the irony of a vatnik callout any US plane a mangled version of an earlier airframe, LMAO
2 years ago
Anonymous
the irony is that you have nothing but dilation and empty threats.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>quarter of a century old western hardware is still better than anything eastoids can produce
makes one ponder
2 years ago
Anonymous
we will only know when they fight each other. why y'all not sending them in ukraine?
the russians sent theirs.
pussy b***h afraid of the felon ass bandit.
>smartest vatnig
they sent the armatas too comrade trust men))
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they sent the armatas too
if you have proof of that then show it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>why y'all not sending them in ukraine?
because sending modern USA planes to Ukraine would be seen as a massive escalation, precisely because the USA outclasses russia so massively in terms of aircraft capabilities (and quantity, too)
2 years ago
Anonymous
why y'all such massive homosexual pussies? do it! I dare you!
2 years ago
Anonymous
my dude why are you so suicidal
2 years ago
Anonymous
are you going to kill me with your dilator?
2 years ago
Anonymous
at least according to my understanding of russia, im not sure it is possible to kill the average russian male via forced dilation no matter how large the dilator is.
y'all need to stop the assfricking and conscript rape.
2 years ago
Anonymous
y'all tried and it's all that matters.
homo
2 years ago
Anonymous
>why y'all not sending them in ukraine >y'all
Because ukranians don't know how to fly them and would take too much time to teach them
Because they're already BTFOing russia without them
Because Ukraine is not even a NATO country
2 years ago
Anonymous
you fly them. no need to teach ukrainians.
you're too fat to even fit in the plane.
fat b***h with sagging breasts.
xaxaxaxa
2 years ago
Anonymous
>xaxaxaxa
i can't believe i took the bait
but you went too far now
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not a larper. I never leave my room.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're larping in cyberspace
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's completely moronic. How can people not understand the difference between LARP and RP?
2 years ago
Anonymous
they missed the "LA"
2 years ago
Anonymous
ok larper
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Russian air force didn't do much to attack Ukrainian held territory but it still provided a deterrent against Ukrainian air force attacks on Russian held territory.
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Outdated and lacking in well trained pilots, sure. Unable to field recently developed aircraft, also true.
But am airforce is still useful even if you're only using it to lob missiles amd rockets at standoff distances.
Like yeah, RU airforce is crap compared to any competently run, modern western airforce. No one is saying it's good.
But it still has some.planes amd some pilots, can can still lob munitions - even if they're not running DEAD, SEAD and constant sorties.
>US made Flanker-D is absolutely amazing >Chink F-117 has panels fall of mid flight regularly and billows easily visible smoke, if it gets off the ground >Russian made F-16 is a pile of trash but at least it flies, kremlin claims it's WAY better than anything the US has made
Telegram channels three days ago reported the loss of control over the strategic fortified area, now this fact is being stated at the American "Institute for the Study of War". In reality, the situation on the eastern front is critical for the AFU, because of the transfer of artillery for a counteroffensive, we lost Sands.
1. On August 10, Russian troops advanced to the south and northeast of Bakhmut. Namely, they entered the territory of the Belokamensk Refractory plant in Soledar.
But we are not talking about controlling the entire plant.
2. The enemy completes the capture of Sand, according to the Institute. On the map published by him, the Russians have already entered a large half of the village.
According to experts, the captured bridgeheads to the west of Donetsk will be used to push the contact line away from the city.
>Telegram channels three days ago reported the loss of control over the strategic fortified area >the situation on the eastern front is critical for the AFU, because of the transfer of artillery for a counteroffensive, we lost Sands
???
Even Russians agree that they STILL are not holding Pisky
>we lost Sands
I assume it's Google Translate from Pisky, a town on the outskirts of Donetsk city. No, AFU hasn't lost it yet, The 56th brigade is still holding most of it with massive casualties and equipment losses. It's currently the worst place to be at, and it's poorly supplied for some reason.
Sorry for my ignorance, but am I correct that Russian air defence will always need multiple systems to identify a target if they want to triangulate and track with any accuracy? If so, the HIMARS related obliteration of the S300 systems* in Zap and Kherson would presumably have taken quite a few nodes out of the network. Could it simply be that Russian AD is simply too thinly spread to cover the entirety of the front line *and* key Russian staging points?
The Russians could never
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A compelling argument
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Ok so it seems obvious now that something struck it, but what?
no one knows and there are zero videos released so far with a frame of the incoming projectile(s)
the size of the explosions looks variable, I wonder if it was two different volleys timed together
my guess is that they've prepared a bunch of bombs and they were sent flying by other bombs exploding nearby, free fall activated the fuse and it made them explode on hitting the ground
storing bombs with fuses instead of screwing them in right before flight is moronic, but so are russians
Right now its looking like it was either domestically developed Hrim-2 or the US cracked and sent ATACMs. Even GMLRS-ER wouldn't have the reach or punch to cause that level of damage. Tochka doesn't quite have the legs either, or the accuracy for that matter. The US did say that Crimea was occupied Ukrainian territory and targets there were valid. I have seen Russian AD being dogshit but I can't imagine they would fail to stop cruise missiles so IMO that rules those out unless the strike was accompanied by cyber and EWAR.
Tin foil kino option is covert strike by the US but I think we all know that is a meme answer.
I want to say it's Neptune, the only reason I don't is we don't have any video showing them flying in. They're subsonic, someone should have seen them.
If it was Neptune this would make it all the more embarrassing for Russian AD. It's possible tho with all that HARM spam they could have suppressed air defenses and forced them to go dark then snuck a few rounds through during that window.
>Tin foil kino option is covert strike by the US but I think we all know that is a meme answer.
Is it possible for any NATO country to sneak a cruise missile-capable sub into the Black Sea without the ruskies noticing?
Or a f-35 flew in amd blew shit up
>I have seen Russian AD being dogshit but I can't imagine they would fail to stop cruise missiles
...Moskva?
>
Ok so it seems obvious now that something struck it, but what?
>no one knows and there are zero videos released so far with a frame of the incoming projectile(s)
>the size of the explosions looks variable, I wonder if it was two different volleys timed together
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> Anonymous 08/10/22(Wed)19:53:06 No.54738712▶
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Ok so it seems obvious now that something struck it, but what?
>my guess is that they've prepared a bunch of bombs and they were sent flying by other bombs exploding nearby, free fall activated the fuse and it made them explode on hitting the ground
>storing bombs with fuses instead of screwing them in right before flight is moronic, but so are russians
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> Anonymous 08/10/22(Wed)19:55:06 No.54738735▶
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yeah. 100% they have in multiple instances failed to stop both cruise missiles and GMLRS. And notably failing repeatedly outside of saturation attacks where the USA is shooting 50 Tomahawks
Lol, you're right, I guess I would ASSUME that your heavily reinforced peninsula would be more resilient than a single (albeit heavily armed) ship. I suppose I need to stop attempting to hold Russian doctrine to sanitary standards
Russian AD *can* be half competent, when they're whipped to shape, as proven by Bayraktar being rendered largely useless in the past months, and Ukrainian ground attack sorties becoming extremely rare (not exactly some great achievement, but point stands).
The thing is, to get there, they need to get their asses reamed out enough that someone high enough in the command structure actually takes notice and starts changing things from the ground up, which includes firing/punishing incompetent officers and crews.
The base commander and everyone involved in its AD very likely felt completely untouchable this far from the frontlines, which would have resulted in everyone slacking, drills not being ran properly, and general incompetence.
Just as with the Moskva, they absolutely had the capacity to defend themselves from the strike, but they simply didn't believe Ukrainians would have the means, or the *gall* to attack them, so when it actually happened, they shit the bed completely.
If they could rewind time and do it again, with people paying attention instead of twiddling their thumbs, drinking on duty and half the systems being down? The attack would have failed completely.
But this is war, there are no takesies backsies, and so Moskva remains sunk, and the Saki airbase remains crippled.
Btw has Oryx in any dingle way acknowledged that Bayraktar isnt as good now as it was in the beginning of the war?
Still going.
what's the tactical advantage of bringing rocket artillery on flat island?
Why do you think TB-2 isn't "good" anymore? Because you don't get to watch funny videos from the command truck on twitter?
They still operate, and we don't know how successful they are.
>TB-2 isn't "good" anymore
its not that it isnt good, its that the russians have largely stopped throwing countless unsupported tanks at the problem so they dont have as many easy targets
True. Still TB-2 is irreplaceable for certain kinds of operations. TOR and Pantsyr still don't see it from what we know, or at least they can't tell it from a Leleka or other cheap winged drone.
Focus on the “as” part.
I has its uses but it isnt a wunderwaffe as ms oryx tries to put it
>It has its uses but it isnt a wunderwaffe as ms oryx tries to put it
It's never been. But it was one piece of equipment possessed by AFU that was superior to anything the russians had during the initial push to Kyiv. And it performed pretty well, objectively speaking.
Bayraktar now performs scouting role instead of CAS(as Vatniks themself confirmed it by showing new wreckage of year old bayraktar), still miles ahead in cost:efficiency to what Russians have
I'm pretty sure they still use it as an attack drone. The only reason why we don't see the videos is opsec. Once you know TB-2 is operating in your area, you can justifiably launch your expensive AD missiles at anything detected by your radar.
Drones' real role is recon, not killing targets.
SLAM-ERs launched by the same MiGs that launched the HARMs.
Might be, but I think the warhead is too small to do that much damage. it's only 500lbs on the SLAM-ER but it for sure has the range to reach that deep.
I get they thought were out of range but having like 6 aircraft lined up wingtip to wingtip is insane negligence in war time
From my rough estimations, these are 15-20m wide craters.
How big does a warhead have to be to do that?
How large does a warhead need to be to set off a couple tons of cold war era Russian munitions?
50 Bmg incendiary and above
With some more rough estimations, the 500lb ATACMS warhead isn't powerful to make such a massive crater.
I'm going to tentatively say the 1100lb HRIM-2 warhead is responsible here.
Look at the before picture, every crater corresponds with an ammo shed. Warhead weight is irrelevant because it's probably eclipsed several times over by the secondaries.
They're usually in the 1000lb range, the density of the earth does sort of affect the size of the crater to some extent (softer= smaller) but hard packed, rocky ground can give you a fairly big surface deformation. Its really interesting to see the post-effects though because there's been all sorts of speculation that it was partisans and stuff (which is legit as an option) but the amount of devastation suggests a large missile strike.
Aircraft are very much big ticket items, well worth a cruise missile or something with sub-munitions to shower the area to cause them damage or destruction and anything that takes them off the line for good or extended repair times is just fricking money.
what a based /k/ot
"kot" is vatnikspeak, you can use /k/it
>but the amount of devastation suggests a large missile strike
the opposite, it suggests it wasn't. There's too much.
And that's ignoring the fact there is absolutely no evidence of it, and other reasons to think otherwise (timing, location of craters)
Its kinda annoying watching everyone try and justify it being some mystery missile when there is no evidence for it whatsoever
Thing is back when I used to do sketchy shit to airbases, is that you can either go large with a lot of guys infiltrating and doing the dirty business, or you can go small with additional time to get it done
Both are really hard in the sense it raises the chances of detection with the inhabitants of said airbase and even against marginally competent forces, they'll have fences, doggos, gate guards and maybe even some perimeter sensors or mine fields, along with the complication you could try the sneaky route of pretending to be Russian military.
The next step is getting all your gear in there, which is risky too and then setting up all the charges
So that's why I lean towards missile strikes- you need the armaments bunker hit hard enough to pop it as anyone (competent) won't have their munitions armed, hot and ready to go just sitting there and I'm kind of dubious of it throwing a lot mixed munitions all over the airfield by chance obliterating the high value aircraft. You want something with submunitions to take out aircraft and something with a big hit for the storage. Its slightly more believable than the presence of SF units and partisans managing to pull that off.
The final alternative, is the locals have managed to get hold of an MRLS or heavy mortar system off the Russians, in the area on the sly and then just given it the fricking beans from a safe distance- that you can pull off with partisans relatively easy if there's something nearby and you might even manage to avoid detection or alarm long enough. Then you're sort of hoping the Russians left the door open on the munitions bunker... which apparently someone did
>they'll have fences, doggos, gate guards and maybe even some perimeter sensors or mine fields, along with the complication you could try the sneaky route of pretending to be Russian military.
do you think so
go look on yandex maps the bloody fence has bits missing and everything
There's no evidence it was missiles. On the contrary, the evidence supports that it wasn't.
Both explosions had identical explosion profiles, and they happened simultaneously. They weren't different attacks, they were multiple examples of the same explosives being detonated by the same mechanism.
thats just wrong, all the avalible footage is of 2 equally powerfull explosions in very close sucsession: https://twitter.com/i/status/1556996656079507456 (listen for the sequential double bang)
not sure what you think you're contradicting there
Oh just everything you said, it is more probable that 2 missiles will have the same explosion profile than hastily placed c4 blocks on surfaces of differing thickness and strenght. Additionaly the 3 impact craters are spaced perfectly to cover the whole complex, something very hard to do when under threat of discovery (the more you walk around the more likely you are to be found out). And the last thing I corrected you on in my first post was the simultanious explosions that is disproven by my video (there is a delay).
>hastily placed c4 blocks
Explosions were way too large for that, they'd have been on vehicles. The explosions and craters are also too large for any missile ukraine has or would even have access too. Tomahawks leave smaller craters.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1557028151578005505?s=20&t=eeI3DgFK-j5VEdoAtVWB9g
They were simultaneous. You are aware that there is such thing as the speed of sound right
the evidence that it was any kind of missile is zero.
Tomahawk
Also note the crater positions they didn't hit the building in the northwest for example, it was next to it. Also why a steel beam was launched 1200ft horizontally
again no they were by no means simultanious and none of the videos captures the the very 1st explsion only visible partial mushroom so that one must have happened before people got there phones in hand
>The explosions and craters are also too large for any missile ukraine has or would even have access too. Tomahawks leave smaller craters.
How much ammunition and fuel do you think was stored around these aircraft?
Every picture even by Russian own propaganda ministry always show piles of bombs and missiles spread around seemingly at random around aircraft.
Doesn't matter, the explosions were identical. We aren't seeing a bunch of secondary explosions, and we aren't seeing plumes from burning fuel, we're seeing two cleanly identical explosions.
Dumbass there's a lot moe explosions than just the ones in that video. That video doesn't even show the big mushroom cloud.
One tiny block of C4 can do just fine if you fish for a sympathetic explosion. You just aim for the pressure and/or temperature Trashhold of the other stuff. Just like a blasting cap starts the whole charge.
A single block stuffed into the trigger slot might only detonate a a single bomb. But if that bomb is a 500kg big boy in a ammo dump? .... Yeah that will do just fine.
I just don't think its dudes being bush ninjas and managing to stick c4 on everything, they were frickhueg explosions
As cool as a commando raid is its playing for keeps when it comes to risk. Though I do find it entertaining that Russian AF is even worse by a large factor compared to Iraq's circula 2003
Good idea dude for an alternative attack, these are very big explosions though as you can see here
Plus they've bracketed the area really precisely here
So my bet is GPS guided missiles still, hits too accurate for sand people or partisans
Imagine Partisans used a 3d printed liberator to shoot a Russian liberator that was out and about and not at his post. Take his tos1 turn it 180 ° and blast Away.
Wrong, wrong wrong.
3 words for you: Drones with C4. This explains why nobody was caught. They just brought in some drones, possibly loitering munitions, and the drones did the legwork.
Tfw BFBC2 drone C4 was ahead of its time
Looking at these images, and also see picrel, I am reasonably certain we are looking at 4 craters. And, they are located so precisely that they could fit on a grid of graph paper. Whatever it was, it can hit on the order of 1-3 meter radius of the aimpoint, where the aimpoint can be set to within a few centimeters.
nice find, so according to some anons here ukkie partisans drove in a convoy of explosive loaded trucks, split up on the runway and blew everything up? it's just unlikely imo
obvious accidental munition explosion
How many of those airframes are actually destroyed and how many of them are merely no longer flightworthy and could potentially be repaired?
Most, if not all, of the intact airframes will have microfractures and stresspoints after the blast, making them essentially ticking timebombs if you try to get them up in the air. It could survive a sortie or two, or it could spontaneously self-deconstruct midair as soon as you bank a bit to sharpish.
>Do you feel lucky, punk?
How would that be different from business as usual for the Russian air force?
Aircraft are fragile. Sensors even more so. All of the ones with profound visible structural damage are hard fricked - even it parts can be salvage or cannibalized between aircraft, they're not coming back. But even ones that don't appear outwardly badly damaged are quite plausibly mission incapable for a little while, and not impossibly worse than that.
I count 6 completely wrecked airframes, 3 craters where no identifiable wreckage remains which was either empty or annihilated and one plane near a destroyed building that is definitely damaged but might be salveagable.
this is sat imagry from well after the bombardment, the orks had hauled away a lot of the runway wreckage by this point. at least a dozen+ aircraft destroyed, probably everything else well out of commission
Yeah I know, you can see that concrete patch at the bottom looks like it had several strikes on it too. I was just counting what was visible in the photo itself
They moved their usable aircraft out of the base by the time the satellite pics were taken (i think that il-76 survived and was flown out). I'd say everything we see in the aftermath pics, from the piles of charred metal to the intact looking aircraft, are all irreparably damaged.
Great photo. Lot clearer than the earlier ones. Looks like all six planes in the bottom middle got destroyed. But they hauled the wreckage off the tarmac
didnt even think of that, but i checked the old photos and those black marks dont seem to be there. could be looking at 3-4 more lost aircraft. they must have been in a mad rush to get wreakage out of sight.
That's concrete, not tarmac. Soviets needed surfaces frost wouldn't instantly destroy.
I'm counting 7 red losses
4 things that probably used to be planes but stopped existing in general
And 3 planes probably littered with shrapnel so much they aren't going anywhere ever again
We have no idea how many were stored in the hall. Could have been 0. Could have been 2.
So 13 planes are gone, give or take.
M 8, all that trash on the flight line is planes I reckon.
A car was impaled by an i-beam almost half a mile away. Everything on the base was likely hit by shrapnel.
Any aircraft that are still on base are likely stuck there because they're rendered inoperable by shrapnel IMO
You can see a couple empty spots where planes have left, any plane that hasn't left so far is probably super fricked
You forgot about the Su-25. In total, as can be seen, at least 14 aircraft were destroyed and at least 3 were damaged (irrevocably?).
those ''intact'' planes will be shredded by shrapnel and the blast wave
proof?
Some info states that ukrainians used their Hrim 2 to do this job
How would they even produce the Hrim-2s? Do they have a secret missile factory in the Carpathians? Did Raytheon lend them a factory to use?
It’s possible they could of crash built a few from the parts they had on hand and new parts made outside Ukraine. I’m leading towards ATACMs or small drones hitting ammunition stored in the open.
Lots of western support has poured into the country, IIRC Hrim-2 was supposed to be ready in 2021. It's plausible to me that while the US may have refused ATACMs they might have provided expertise and materials to produce the domestic equivalent. Maybe Poland or another country offered to help produce these too. Either way, we know it must have been some new type of standoff weapon that isn't currently in their arsenal until recently.
>domestic equivalent
...does Hrim-2 fit in a standard ATACMS pod?
Doubt it but we've seen plenty of jerry rigged MLRS cancer on pick ups so maybe they slapped a few on something. I do also think they had a launch vehicle developed.
The development was paused in 2019 but resumed later so most of the legwork could be done already. I think the issue would be producing them under war conditions. Seems to me much of the development was finished up since they claimed to want to buy the first systems in 2021
HRIM-2 has its own launch vehicle. If Ukraine can keep 3 or 4 of them operational, then the only thing they have to worry about are the missiles.
Question is how many of these launch vehicles were produced before the invasion.
Forgot pic
Maybe, the US did that in WW2. Seems like it would be challenging to online that in 5 months but at this point we can't prove they didn't
Depends on how finished the missiles were. Could be that they were lent facilities in another country like Poland.
It's not needed. The factory that makes them still works, and it's huge. All factories that make parts work too. It just seems like russia really wanted to capture our military complex intact
If you believe Ukranian missiles can be so accurate youneed to be a troony right now
It's the only plausible option. Or either Russians are outright moronic 24/7, 7 days a week, 54-55 weeks a year. Not to mention, where the frick would the craters come from, what would cause that explosion, and what would have that reach?
Enhancing domestic missiles with foreign guidance is plausible
Ukraine was a major weapons producer since Soviet times you ignorant turd.
>Some info states that ukrainians used their Hrim 2 to do this job
Hrim-job 2
HRRRRRRRRRRIIIIMMMMMM
>all those memes about the chechens be le heckin saudakar for emperor puterino
>it was actually the Ukies this whole time
B A S E D
I though Crimea was part of the ukraine hohols? It turns out ukprops blew up their own airbase xaxaxa
POCCIA wins again
Maybe if Ukraine keeps bombing Donbabwe, Luganda and Crimea, Russia will backpedal and say those were Ukrainian territories all along
>ITT, vatBlack folk don't understand what the "temporarily occupied" in "temporarily occupied Crimea" means
This is just Ukraine's way of impounding Crimean planes, since they haven't paid taxes for the last 6 years.
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
lets imagine u fly a drone over those jets, which area is best to hit for maximized damage? wienerpit or engine?
ammo piles 30ft away.
Anons, would you consider using precious cruise missiles and HIMARS for individual aircraft worth it when looking at cost and logistics? It would seem using them to destroy aviation fuel and ammo dumps would do more damage.
Ideally hitting both would be best. It could be their intel determined that the RU air force hasn't been effective even with its ammo intact so they possibly considered the platforms themselves higher priority. Plus destroying planes has a higher morale effect then just munitions, those jets are gonna be much much harder to replace.
they seem to have gotten the best of both worlds where blowing up the ammo dumps also destroyed a bunch of aircraft in the secondary explosions
the russians were very kind and decided to put the fuel, ammo and aircraft right next to eachother in another gesture of good will.
A fully-kitted out modern strike aircraft is a lot harder to replace than jet fuel or bombs, especially with sanctions in place. This isn't like the tradeoff between hitting tanks or ammunition/fuel - high-end military jets are a lot less replaceable.
Aircraft are different from arty pieces, they are far more expensive and harder to replace, so if you get the chance to directly target them, you definitely should take it.
Ukraine said it was partisans.
wonder how hard it is to smuggle a switchblade across the frontlineborder
kek thought you were talking about a knife for a sec
Large amount of ammo and fuel piled up plus truck bomb?
Three seperate truck bombs at the same time? Dubious.
Would have to be multiple coordinated attacks, right? Since it seems unlikely there would be a chain reaction big enough to destroy the whole base like that, although what we've seen of Russian ammo storage practices so far doesn't exactly rule that possibility out.
Seems more likely that they infiltrated it, likely due to lax security, and planted small explosives in a bunch of key areas, then blew it.
Russia seems genuinely confused as to what happened, so the claim does make sense if they just snuck in, planted a bunch of charges, and blew it sky high.
Could be bullshit though to confuse the Russians and make them more paranoid.
Simultaneous drone bombs from a partisan team could have done it too.
they might've said it to sow even more panic amongs russians
>ATACMS
>HRIM
>partisans
>smooker
it could be anything!
It was a partisan who was delivered to the base by a stealth ATACMs dropped from low-Earth orbit who threw a cigarette into two separate ammo dumps and a fuel depot and then teleported back to the Ukrainian mainland.
You joke but it's possible there were special forces/partisans lazer designating the strike
I was wondering about this, how do you target stuff for these long range missiles?
Do you need someone/something actively painting the target? Can you just plun in some coordinates from goggle maps lol?
TERCOM, GPS, optical target matching wizardry
>camouflage rule #37
>don't take selfies with an off-camera flash while in a camouflaged position
Fricking amateurs I swear
It's a PR photo
That was my other guess.
Explosive barrels clearly, if you play HL2 you know Eastern Europe is full of them.
Why were there no partisans in 2014 Crimea when the annexation began?
Crimea is a tourist trap (was anyway) and minor shipping hub. It's like asking why weren't there any partisans in Macao
>minor shipping hub
Sevastopol was the biggest and most advanced warm water port in the region.
Russia responded and said it was improperly stored munitions being accidentally blown up... again...
>oops we goofed and blew up our entire airfield including 11 aircraft
>nah guys, we're just being moronic
Vatniksisters, i don't feel so good.
>You can have one of each
Fricking brutal
What's the white aircraft?
su-24
SU-24. the only other viable variable-sweep winged military plane in history next to the F-14.
from back when Russians weren't degenerated snowgerians
>only other viable variable-sweep winged military plane in history
homie what
>Mig-23
At least post a non-shit aircraft like the Torando
Or the F-111
or the B-1
Or, yanno, the B1 Lancer.
why not cut out the middle man and just use tomahawks?
Deniability
i don't think their is an elaborate web of deception going on here to maintain
There doesnt need to be, it just needs to not be undeniably proven. Its not a good look if they are caught supplying gear they havent publicly acknowledged
this sounds like a scenario where everyone has a lobe of their brain missing
Thats how covert support always works. You seriously think there was any doubt it was the US supplying stingers to afghanistan during the soviet invasion? No, but they went to all the frickery of routing it via israel and pakistan anyway purely for the deniability
>Thats how covert support always works.
this is not covert
>this is not covert
Yes it is? The official support the US is giving is dramatically less than the real support, obviously
>give Ukraine all of the individual components of a Tomahawk cruise missile
>file off serial and anything that could be traced back to Raytheon
>Ukrainians assemble them in Ukraine
>Ukrainians launch them
>claim they were indigenous missiles made by a Ukrainian design bureau
I'm still in fricking awe. Putin is gonna grow another stomach ulcer at this point. Hopefully it'll be the one that gives him peritonitis and fricking kills bloated ass once and for all.
Its these things. 450kg warhead, - originally Chinese but Turks have been license manufacture and selling to international market for ages. Ukies most llikely fired them off from makeshift launch tables in Odessa after smuggling them into port (launcher vehicles cost money).
>jerry-rigging long-range missile launch facilities on the go
why is this war so based nnnnggghh
Real question is how they managed to keep launch signature of 3 large solid TBMs so suppressed out of media there should be phone of it. Could have launched from a boat in the Black Sea or from Danube estuary hinterlands west of Odessa. Daylight launch with local low cloud? One dude with a workshop and some steel I-beam could whip up a launch table in 2 days related.
A rolloff truck is almost a complete TEL.
That's literally an insectoid-made Iscander copy. Ukraine developed and manufactured most of Iskander missile, why would we need insectoid junk? Grim was 80% complete in 2021, 1.5 years is more than enough to complete it, even without wartime speed boost
It wasn't missiles at all
The simultaneous explosions rule that out.
They were explosives detonated on the ground.
The massive impact craters don't show up in the color pictures. Ministry building deleters. NATO worthy TBQH
>what is TOT planning
Let’s see Paul Allen’s airfield strike.
Russia will probably blow up a couple of malls tomorrow using Kalibr missiles in retaliation for this.
This is the airport fence, btw
ffs the security there is like TOP NOTCH
feeling cute might steal a Su-27 brb
Wow, looks like "they will not dare to strike here" was the main defense system here
looks pretty secure, how did ukies manage to sneak past the security perimeter?
this is the reality of the whole russian myth of "nyet rifle is fine". its not that they're efficient, theyre just fricking lazy
There's probably a lot of american airbases that are the same. Here's McConnell Air Force Base. Note the civilian houses and lack of fences. It would be easy to infiltrate.
>There's probably a lot of american airbases that are the same. Here's McConnell Air Force Base. Note the civilian houses and lack of fences. It would be easy to infiltrate.
No I'm sorry, I don't note that. Could you please point out the "civilian houses" in your picture? Because looking at google maps I can see a frickhuge AFB surrounded by a lot of land and barbed wire fences.
If it's anything like Rota (Eurogay here) the civilian housing is inside the perimeter and it's all vetted base personnel and families, the barbed wire fences and cameras are further out
you can just look at google maps, not even google car is allowed to get on roads close to airfield
pls tell that it was some stealthy commando raid
It was a stealthy commando raid, I expect they made some distracton (the smoke) then bribed or just drove past some gate guard MP who doesn't give a shit and then just set off two enormous car bombs
>Pic
Why does SAS using m16? Arents they were armed with slr's?
Nah they used M16s for a long time before their Canadian ones they have now
SAS were using M16s before the US Army and Marines
They were the second military user after the USAF I believe
>pls tell that it was some stealthy commando raid
It was, at first, several guard were stabbed with Fairbairn-Sykes knives, many throats were cut by the razor sharp blades.
They proceeded deeper and used time bombs, installed them all around the place. Everything blew up at once and when the asiatic-arabic-russo-nazis ran out of their huts in confusion, the commandos opened fire with their Sten SMGs and wiped out 100-150 putinists.
Afterwards they commandeered a russian vehicle and disguised themselves as soldiers and simple drove out of the base.
this summer vacation place its really nice and you can see aircraft parked from outside the fence
I heard a delicious cope that these were fake / decommissioned planes meant to act as decoy.
Hahaahaha kholkhols so stupid they waste magic "non-American" missiles on airbase full of inflatable fighters just like our decoy inflatable S400s stupid americans not even learn from their own joke in d-day
John here from Oregano Oblast. It is so sad to watch these satanic neo nazis destroy sickle cell infected migrant workers dressing up as sukhois for the Donbass victory parade. I for one think american should stop giving weapons and support as this amounts to but a tacit nod of approval and firm rejection of the glorious russian peoples.
Hello John from Organa Oblast. This is Kevin from New Dakota Oblast. I would like to add that the american support of weapons, supplies and decadent western wealth is not having any effect on the war, but it displays a mark of disrespect to Russian people, which is why it should be stopped. In fact, the lend lease is being stolen by Russian agents as it travels through Europe, and in fact it helps Russia win the war, but it is still a great show of disrespect for the Greater Russian Sphere of Influence, and should be ended.
Tom of Finland Oblast here. I just wanted to say that the proud Russian forces all wear such nice, tight uniforms. Guys that stylish have to be on the winning side of the conflict. I've often had discussions with them before the war at the public urinals and dockside bars of Crimea, and their arguments are very strong and easy to swallow.
Chuggies even said those jets were styrofoam decoys or something, and that's why they burned so well. I don't even know anymore...
well a good rule of thumb is that anything from /chug/ is going to be wrong because they're cope-fueled morons
Something I don't get is that the S-300 in Ukrainian service do intercept some of the missiles launched by Russia on a daily basis but here it seems that the nearby AA defenses saw nothing coming.
yeah i assume the Ukies are actually at their posts while the russians are off drunk fricking around being russians
skill issue
They probably can't turn their radar on for fear of their emitters being seen and getting them killed.
by what, they can't even use HARM in an anti radar capacity
Air defence can't shoot down something that doesn't exist
perhaps kolchuga passive sensor system alleged performance is not a complete fiction
In 2007 Russia gave Israel the old Soviet encryption/decryption keys to Syria's IADS, to guarantee that the Israelis destroy Syria's nuclear reactor. Current Russian hardware is barely a gen above the Syrian trash, so it stands that the West can now just crack all Russian/Soviet IADS codes, 1.5 decades of research and reverse-engineering later.
Civilian casualties are suspiciously absent from media reports. Just to show how biased the media are towards Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if ex-CIA execs (like that CNN guy) were behind the attempt to influence the public through the media.
Idk maybe there were no civilians on the fricking military base during the war?
Also how exactly would CNN prevent Russia from reporting on civilian causalities?
it was bring your kid to work day
It was a big explosion. Civilian cars far from the base got destroyed, yet no reports on civilian casualties whatsoever.
I think they were all hiding on the beach.
Why didn't RIA Novosti reported those causalities then?
How can there be casualties if there was no attack
>yet no reports on civilian casualties whatsoever
At least 1 civilian died, several civilians (at least 14) injured, 60 buildings ruined https://nitter.pussthecat.org/GazetaRu/status/1557300483567616000
No western media ever reported this. Typical hypocrites. They'd cheer for genocides if the ones doing it are on their side (NATO).
What are you talking about? When I was googling the story yesterday I remember hearing about a kid being injured.
German News we're writing 1 dead 7 injured including 2 children today.
Cope, seethe and dilate
Rubber inflated decoys, enjoy wasting rockets.
Crimea apparently saw a bat-like aircraft in the sky moments before seeing smoke
Only Russian conscripts toss cigarette butts with such precision.
Case closed.
The pile of white trash at the top is actually a pile of cigarettes.
some ukkie journo on nxta even hinted at what happened: anti radiation missiles opened up a safe corridor and himars shot atacms missiles through
/chug/ already proved that attack was fake, airport was abandoned and filled with stryfoam plane cutouts
oh no ukiebros.... its time to pack up and surrender...
kek
Damn you just can't make these people up lmao.
>those planes weren't even in active service it's nbd
this is beyond parody holy shit
I bet it was rocket atacik, the rockets just exploded in the air like the nukes do, jets are pretty soft targets, so you can damage them with blast wave and heat for a further distance. Thats why craters looks so small.
r8 my theory.
If you look at before and after, the craters are where the amo dumps were.
Again this could be special forces or precision munitions.
But would any special forces do a daring raid in broad daylight?
>But would any special forces do a daring raid in broad daylight?
They will do whatever works, they could get in dressed as enemy personnel, place timed charges and be long gone when they explode.
>checked
Is there anything that special forces could have launched from a nearby field and hit these targets, the area is spare.
>But would any special forces do a daring raid in broad daylight?
Or they did it at night with timed charges or remote detonation
Better spectacle to do it in broad daylight with a beach full of Russian upper middleclass watching.
Honestly i can't tell what would be worse, that Russian AD can't defend a major airbase in Crimea or that said airbase security is so bad someone could get charges into the base.
I doubt men were there at all. Why place a bomb in such a suboptimal position when all the rest are in good locations at much deeper points in the base?
There was a building there anon.
Proofs?
see
There are 4 impact craters:
Holy frick, insane accuracy.
Makes me laugh now when I remember all rUsSiA sTonK shilling from before the war, if they went to war with NATO their military would cease to exist in 1 hr 22 minutes, nukes or no nukes, makes no difference.
Technically nothing Scapegoat says there is wrong.
>The Russian twist was gross incompetence
Bravo
>with a Russian twist
Picrel.
used to be a lot of russians on /k/
Now it seems like they all migrated to /misc/ because thats the only board where they actually believe the russian ammo storage smoker story.
Holy moly, that's some accuracy right there.
crazy
Few meters CEP. Suspect using accurized GPS. Then again the Iranian TBM attacks were similarly accurate. The accuracy level might be normal for all non-fail-tier post-Cold War TBM guidance.
Those are precisely at the locations of what may have been ammo dumps in the above image.
Might as well have been C4 or something planted on top off munitions. And it's all along one access road, so whoever did it might have just gone down that, planted bombs, and left. Looks more like operators than missiles to me.
plausible, thinking about how Russians are storing huge amounts of ammunition in big piles
>put on hi-vis vest
>walk through security checkpoint
>if anyone asks just say you're new here and it's your first day on the job and for some reason those idiots in HR didn't print any IDs
>drive luggage car down runway
>toss bricks of c4 next to ammo dumps
>leave air base
>head to the beach
>sip a tiki drink while you watch your handiwork
Look harder. Each crater could be cloned in photoshop they are so close to identical.
These are precision munitions strikes. Missiles or possibly guided bombs. Really big frickers. There would be no way to generate that sort of repeatability with manual placement.
Study the before & after a lot more closely:
. Look at the exact ground zero center for each crater:
. The center for each crater does not correspond to any location that would have been manual placement of charges.
>proof?
Do some reading while you go be underage somewhere else.
>Look harder. Each crater could be cloned in photoshop they are so close to identical.
They're not identical and more importantly, the stacks of munitions being of very similar size to each other would account for this as well.
>The center for each crater does not correspond to any location that would have been manual placement of charges.
The centre of a crater made by closely stacked munitions would be approximately under the centre of mass of the explosive material, not near the charge that set them off. This isn't a black powder fuse we're talking about; the detonations might as well be simultaneous, and a charge capable of setting munitions off would be completely insignificant to the end effect (other than, you know, making it happen in the first place - but it wouldn't really affect the size of the end explosion).
>top right crater is to the side of a building
I didn't mention buildings at all. What might be munition crates are standing there on the concrete where the centres of craters are.
top right crater is to the side of a building, show me ammo dump where bottom left crater is
That was a warehouse of some sort. There's a reason there's fricktons of debris around that crater. This is from google earth on that same spot.
holy shit
I thinks its obvious what is worse: missile strike is a strategy you can repeat on diffirent airfields again and again while this specops partisan shit is non-repeatable and does not changes as much in the grand scale.
Russian security and logistics seems like absolute ass, so partisans can be just as bad depending on how they did it.
For example, did they just post up and fly in drones with C4 on them to obvious munitions stocks that were sitting out in the open?
Then that is repeatable. Even worse if it's guys on the inside helping them blow shit up.
They did in 2016. Successfully deployed but got busted by FSB. Managed to break through and come back home. A russian paratrooper and the head of Crimean Spetsnaz died in that ambush, all the Ukrainian SOF returned in one piece.
Later russians tried to blow up the car of the commander of that unit (the bomber blew up himself instead). Another attempt was made to blow up a different member of that unit, successful unfortunately.
You can read about it here https://mil.in.ua/uk/articles/rejd-gur-ukrayiny-v-okupovanomu-krymu/
I need answers
Purple is nothing important, it's there in old Google maps stuff
Yellow is a Beriev Be-12
why'd you circle half of the 'planet' text?
New /chug/ cope just dropped
ok so the planes were decoys
and ukraine didn't blow it up
so who was bomb?
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1557621932429819907
>Because no amount of sunscreen will protect them from the hazardous effects of smoking in unauthorised areas.
>Bananarama
Jesus fricking christ are Ukraine MoD actually joining us here?
if they ever post monkey putin, it will all but confirm it
Banan memes are ubiquitous.
To be fair, 80s Bananarama were really shit hot
Shit, I thought it was a reference to a sun screen commercial.
Plus halfway through they disable a police car with banana peels
>Which given Russia's performance in this war so far, banana peels are quite a workplace hazard if munitions are involved
>I was there, children, for the First Troll War
>before the 401st Meme Division was even a gleam in General xxXninjafricker69Xxx's eye
>before the laser-guided NFTs and the GBM-256 Soijak
this is already 1982, anon, only a few years off peak Cold War
SAS like many SF get to use whatever the frick they want, within reason (not captured AKs usually). When they were planning for an attack on Stanley airfield they went round collecting all unused GPMGs so they could charge out spraying belts of ammo like fricking Rambo
>would still have been a one way trip of course
Hot summer beach and the airbase is burning, I sit around
Trying to smile, but the air is so smoky and warm
Strange missiles are flying (Where did they land?)
Launches I can't understand
It's too close for comfort, this war has got right out of hand
It's a cruel (Cruel), cruel summer
Detonating on its own
It's a cruel (It's a cruel), cruel summer
Now we're gone
The bomb dump is crowded, my colonel's away and I'm on my own
It's too hot to handle so I got to get up and smoke
It's a cruel (Cruel), cruel summer
Detonating on its own
It's a cruel (It's a cruel), cruel summer
Now you're gone
It's not the only dump
It's a cruel (Cruel), cruel summer
(Detonating) Detonating on its own
It's a cruel (It's a cruel), cruel summer
Now we're gone
Absolut banans, anon.
This is one of those posts that will be tragically lost, like tears in the rain. But, I'd like you to know tat I played this through about 5 times, singing your lyrics to it. Your version set to the original music *should* be the anthem for this entire war. If there was any justice in the world.
>This is one of those posts that will be tragically lost, like tears in the rain.
Just take a screenshot.
fricking love the banter coming out of this war, from government officials no less
>russian
>lower case
These little details are just delightful
>These little details are just delightful
Someone spent a lot of time on that, and it's magnificent
it's funny how cold this is. i was expecting "civilians, please leave" not "AHAHA FRICK OFF YE c**tS"
If the Ukrainians can launch HARM, what is to say they can't pre-program a few SLAM-ER that happened to fall of some truck and launch those too?
Trying to speculate on the weapons used based on the amount of damage doesn't make much sense since most of the damage is likely from the munitions and fuel stored there. The craters coincide with storage areas and buildings.
Just a small explosive either from missile, mortar, drone or guy on the ground could have snowballed the whole thing.
why didn't vatBlack folk deploy S300 air defense system to defend their airfield from missiles?
can S300 not shoot down 25 year old rocket technology?
They deployed the S400
The S400 is simply too advanced to even recognize these technologically inferior Ukrop missiles
Checkmate Westoids
There's entire battery of S-400's about 30km away from the airfield, guess Col. Petrov was having a nap.
The operators were having a smoke, next to a ammo dump, it's a russian thing.
CYKA BLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
so, we're moving past the workplace lack of cigarette safety and entering the realm of...
THE BUNGLER
>no likes or reactions
when even vatniks recognise god-tier copium
how would HARMs be used against munitions anyway, don't they target active radar systems?
HARM would be used to take out Russian radars that would like to intercept missiles. Seeing through this clever hohol tactic Vatniks decided not to turn on any of their radars
>send in a HARM, targets the AA Radar
>crew either launch counters against it
>or turn it off and hope
>kill-missiles following in which can't be intercepted because no radar, no launch
Same as the other explosions. Ukrainian intelligence snuck in and dropped off a pallet of vodka, krokadil, cigarettes, and fire works. The Russians did the rest.
what was the point of this?
You mean what the point of the post?
>satellite photo shows effect on weapon on target
>satellite photo shows damage to military aircraft
>satellite photo shows accuracy of a weapons system
Couldn't possibly be relevant to /k/ - weapons
Or did you mean "what's the point of destroying russian planes in an airfield in temporarily occupied crimea"
In which case the point is Russians should all go frick themselves with a cactus
I'm talking about attacking that runway.
what was the point?
What was the point of destroying russian planes, munitions, jet fuel, and logistics, as well as fricking up the concrete road surface and likely rendering the airfield temporarily unusable
Gee anon I dunno, maybe the point was frick russia.
Also, a little bit of "because we can" and "your AA is shit"
but I thought that russian airforce was useless
>but I thought that russian airforce was useless
Well, it certainly is now.
it wasn't until now? funny how you trannies keep changing your stories.
Damn, this one really made you guys salty didn't it...
y'all forgot to take your puberty blockers
>reddit troony dilate zog cuck globohomosexual israelite Black person satanist homosexual israelite troony Black person troony troony troony troony troony troony troony troony troony troony troony
don't be angry
>it wasn't until now?
No, it was lacking trained pilots, modern aircraft and the ability to conduct SEAD/DEAD missions before now, too.
Now it's just lacking a few more old planes and pilots with 20 flight hours a year.
what a bunch of sad larpers you are
Saying russia doesn't have modern aircraft is larping?
My dude, the su57 is vaporware.
You know it in your heart.
Don't lie to yourself like this, you're better than that vatnik-kun
f22 is a quarter of a century old.
get better lines.
uh huh, and the f35?
>and the f35
is a mangled f22
the irony of a vatnik callout any US plane a mangled version of an earlier airframe, LMAO
the irony is that you have nothing but dilation and empty threats.
>quarter of a century old western hardware is still better than anything eastoids can produce
makes one ponder
we will only know when they fight each other. why y'all not sending them in ukraine?
the russians sent theirs.
pussy b***h afraid of the felon ass bandit.
https://twitter.com/GazaJenin/status/1501652244369915910?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1501652244369915910%7Ctwgr%5Ee1222e465a247b94ce029c22a805d83ed694ef5b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Feurasiantimes.com%2F4-russian-su-57-jets-operating-in-stealth-mode-ukrainian%2F
>smartest vatnig
they sent the armatas too comrade trust men))
>they sent the armatas too
if you have proof of that then show it.
>why y'all not sending them in ukraine?
because sending modern USA planes to Ukraine would be seen as a massive escalation, precisely because the USA outclasses russia so massively in terms of aircraft capabilities (and quantity, too)
why y'all such massive homosexual pussies? do it! I dare you!
my dude why are you so suicidal
are you going to kill me with your dilator?
at least according to my understanding of russia, im not sure it is possible to kill the average russian male via forced dilation no matter how large the dilator is.
y'all need to stop the assfricking and conscript rape.
y'all tried and it's all that matters.
homo
>why y'all not sending them in ukraine
>y'all
Because ukranians don't know how to fly them and would take too much time to teach them
Because they're already BTFOing russia without them
Because Ukraine is not even a NATO country
you fly them. no need to teach ukrainians.
you're too fat to even fit in the plane.
fat b***h with sagging breasts.
xaxaxaxa
>xaxaxaxa
i can't believe i took the bait
but you went too far now
I'm not a larper. I never leave my room.
you're larping in cyberspace
That's completely moronic. How can people not understand the difference between LARP and RP?
they missed the "LA"
ok larper
The Russian air force didn't do much to attack Ukrainian held territory but it still provided a deterrent against Ukrainian air force attacks on Russian held territory.
>useless
useless at hitting their designated targets, not useless at bombing churches, schools and hospitals
?
Outdated and lacking in well trained pilots, sure. Unable to field recently developed aircraft, also true.
But am airforce is still useful even if you're only using it to lob missiles amd rockets at standoff distances.
Like yeah, RU airforce is crap compared to any competently run, modern western airforce. No one is saying it's good.
But it still has some.planes amd some pilots, can can still lob munitions - even if they're not running DEAD, SEAD and constant sorties.
To destroy aircraft and munitions that are being used in a war. You do realize there's a war over there right?
but
>what is the point of crippling your enemy's capacity to carry out airstrikes
Are you brain-damaged?
Your picrel makes me feel unwell
>US made Flanker-D is absolutely amazing
>Chink F-117 has panels fall of mid flight regularly and billows easily visible smoke, if it gets off the ground
>Russian made F-16 is a pile of trash but at least it flies, kremlin claims it's WAY better than anything the US has made
full picture
this area was clearly a junkyard and not an operational airbase as outlined in
literal nothing burger
Telegram channels three days ago reported the loss of control over the strategic fortified area, now this fact is being stated at the American "Institute for the Study of War". In reality, the situation on the eastern front is critical for the AFU, because of the transfer of artillery for a counteroffensive, we lost Sands.
1. On August 10, Russian troops advanced to the south and northeast of Bakhmut. Namely, they entered the territory of the Belokamensk Refractory plant in Soledar.
But we are not talking about controlling the entire plant.
2. The enemy completes the capture of Sand, according to the Institute. On the map published by him, the Russians have already entered a large half of the village.
According to experts, the captured bridgeheads to the west of Donetsk will be used to push the contact line away from the city.
>Telegram channels three days ago reported the loss of control over the strategic fortified area
>the situation on the eastern front is critical for the AFU, because of the transfer of artillery for a counteroffensive, we lost Sands
???
Even Russians agree that they STILL are not holding Pisky
>we lost Sands
I assume it's Google Translate from Pisky, a town on the outskirts of Donetsk city. No, AFU hasn't lost it yet, The 56th brigade is still holding most of it with massive casualties and equipment losses. It's currently the worst place to be at, and it's poorly supplied for some reason.
t. Ukrainian anon
it's not good place for Russians either
>terrified orc still spamming orc propaganda
This going to happen every time Russia is reminded how pathetically weak they are?
>we lost 14 aircraft, but that doesn't matter because we occupy half of a village
Post sugar immediately
I wipe my ass with Amnesty International it doesn't matter who or what they say.
The author of that article blames the situation on NATO in another article.
This is all you need to know.
Sorry for my ignorance, but am I correct that Russian air defence will always need multiple systems to identify a target if they want to triangulate and track with any accuracy? If so, the HIMARS related obliteration of the S300 systems* in Zap and Kherson would presumably have taken quite a few nodes out of the network. Could it simply be that Russian AD is simply too thinly spread to cover the entirety of the front line *and* key Russian staging points?
*e.g. https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-destroys-russian-battery-s-300-air-defense-systems-military-1727462
These are fricking gems
The AFU finally has a wunderwaffe but who'd have thought that it was the Hrim-2, their own secret project? This makes me respect them even more.
lmao, thinking russia has the capabilities to sink one (let alone multiple) CSGs
And then when you ask them why they haven't done that yet, they'd tell you that America is a coward for ganging up on Russia with its allies
Pretty sure that's shitposting, well its what I'd shitpost for the lulz