>dad says I shouldn't change the oil on the tractor (bought new) because it doesn't need its oil changed / oil changes are a scam
>explain it says to change it at 50 hours, and he will be out $4000
>"I change my car oil every 5000km, when the tractor hits 5,000km, I'll change that, and that'll be in 10 years, because the tractor goes 2km at a day at the most"
I used to do every 200 hours, or 6 months. Whatever comes first. synthetic will probably go double that or more. *shrug*
You're always supposed to do a break-in change in a new anything. Run a magnet over it and you'll see why
This. Only to hell with the 6 months part... 200 hours on equipment, 5000 miles on vehicles. Change it.
And this. First oil change is probably the most crucial one. After the initial oil change at the recommended short interval then go to 200 hours or 5,000 miles.
miles is a proxy for revolutions
it's most of the reason why highway miles are "lighter" than city miles
2000rpm-3000rpm sustained vs 800rpm-4000rpm all the time
also oil circulation blah blah
if he wants to destroy his new tractor then frick him
frick boomers
Did you pay for it? Does it affect you in any shape or form? If no, then it's not your problem. Let him blow the tractor and fork over 10k for a new engine and troony. You talked once and he didn't listen. Dumb and stubborn people deserve no mercy.
>Does it affect you in any shape or form?
It's his father so obviously yes
My dad says similar shit. I tell him that "oil is cheaper than an engine", he still absolutely destroys anything with an engine, while saying I don't know what I'm talking about.
I'm a licensed A&P mechanic.
He's a retired high school math teacher.
I know your pain OP.
>You talked once and he didn't listen. Dumb and stubborn people deserve no mercy.
This.
Hate to take advantage of him, but I've resurrected all kinds of stuff that he was throwing out because he'd neglected maintenance.
>it was their kids, the boomers, who adopted the disposable appliance consoomer mentality and will go out to walmart or harbor freight and buy the cheapest drill, break it/lose it, buy another one, break it/lose it, etc. 15 times
>just look at the average boomer-owned used car lmfao
Bingo. That's what my dad does.
As a mechanic, it's frustrating, but it's his money.
did he read the manual? the manufacturer has a vested interest in keeping the engine healthy and does not make money from selling oil. why would anyone ignore that?
>he doesn't buy John Deere GENUINE® Motor Oil
ngmi
lol i didn't know john deere did that but just the same, check the manual and substitute any equivalent or better oil
also the manufacturer doesn't really have an interest in keeping the engine healthy, they can just sell you a new engine or new tractor and make more money than if you just kept the old one for 10+ years.
>also the manufacturer doesn't really have an interest in keeping the engine healthy,
In PrepHole neverneverland corporations love it when they sell garbage, because somehow it helps them sell more garbage.
You clowns are pathetic.
>>sell garbage, because somehow it helps them sell more garbage
Yes it's called planned obsolescence and has been around for longer than any of us have been alive. See: lightbulbs.
Try harder the next time you shill/defend the corpoRapists talking points; are they even paying you for this?
Planned obsolescence works for some things. If a company sell absolute garbage and say tough shit though it'll backfire and they will lose credibility. They have to walk a fine line of being too cheap and making crap that no one will ever buy and making things so durable that they will never get a person to buy twice.
On something like a tractor I'd say the overall machine powertrain is still built quite durable, it's all the little plasticy bits in the cab and the electronic modules and computers that will be obsolete after a few years. Most of that stuff can be worked around if you have some know-how, but some of it is pretty integrated.
>my tractor is obsolete, therefore it's garbage
how are lightbulbs proof of planned obsolescence
you can get pretty long lasting light bulbs now, and older light bulbs just use different technology that sucks and isn't capable of going as long
Because of the famous Edison cartel that deliberately made shorter lasting lightbulbs. Were you asleep in history class?
led lightbulbs should last for a lifetime. The only reason they dont is they run them at higher voltage than they should
Marathon runners only take a daily shit after running 26 miles so he is forbidden to shit again until he runs 26 miles.
He's an idiot like all non-mechanics. Oil deteriorates when it sits in an engine because temp cycles and condensation.
Eh. I knew an old farmer that claimed he only changed his oil every 100k. I don't have any reason to believe he was lying to me; I trusted him. He just said,
>the big thing is just not to let it get LOW on oil, or you're gonna start having problems
He was genuinely in awe at the capabilities of modern synthetic motor oils -- and I am too. They're amazing.
Anyway, since he told me that, I've let my oil change intervals get longer. Not to 100,000 miles, but just whenever it feels right. Maybe once a year. I do check it often and make sure it's topped off. I also buy the more expensive filters.
Of the six cars I've owned, the reason I've gotten rid of them has NEVER been because of engine trouble. It's always been something else that went: transmission, transfer case, front-end BS, or the midwest special -- general rust.
If he's perpetually topping off the oil then that counts as an oil change, just slower. I've had cars like this and I'd just throw in a new filter every once in a while.
kek
the meme that old people take maintainance of their stuff very seriously and take great care of everything they own died with the WW2 generation
it was their kids, the boomers, who adopted the disposable appliance consoomer mentality and will go out to walmart or harbor freight and buy the cheapest drill, break it/lose it, buy another one, break it/lose it, etc. 15 times
just look at the average boomer-owned used car lmfao
yeah true
>the meme that old people take maintainance of their stuff very seriously and take great care of everything they own died with the WW2 generation
I'm doing my best to bring it back anon... My old man was pretty good about taking care of his stuff as well. Hopefully I pass it onto my kids. I don't know how people can afford to not take care of their stuff. Oh wait, they are fricking broke and just blame it on their landlords, because they will never own anything of their own...
my father knows nothing about engines and i'm pretty sure he's killed some prematurely. the only reason i know anything about engines is that i was living in poverty and could only afford a 150cc yamaha scooter for transportation. there was no way i could afford a mechanic for maintenance and repairs so i had to do everything myself. i hated every minute of it because i was stressed worrying about something bad & expensive happening, but still learned a lot. getting a rear flat was an ordeal for various reasons, and it happened a few times. once i slightly cross threaded the muffler mounting bolt hole in the aluminum engine block. my elderly neighbor who rebuilt his vintage mercedes helped me out with that issue but otherwise i had no help. i had to take apart the carb a couple times because it would get gunked up from city driving. that is even with 0% ethanol premium shell gas, until i started using 2oz of seafoam in every tank.
thanks for visiting my blog, i'm a little nostalgic.
How does this moron not understand the concept of an oil change after breaking in a motor? Literally the most important one, think of all the metal shavings from all the parts wearing in against each other. After that it doesn’t matter that much but god damn this homie moronic
>metal shavings
Do tractors not have oil filters? C'mon man, do better.
Don't you know about filter grades/fineness and metal particles that are mikrometers big? How thick do you think is your oil film in bearings and between piston and cylinders are? You think a filter for 10 bucks can filter that out?
>do better
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>explain it says to change it at 50 hours, and he will be out $4000
Where does it cost $4,000 to get the oil in a tractor changed?